Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Strange Selective Hearing in My K3

2022-10-10 Thread Brian Hunt
Sounds like a thermal problem, possibly with the 8v regulator. I have a problem 
with my K3 (S# 4K range). If the rig is cold ~60 F the 8v apparently goes out 
of regulation evidenced by the display illumination dimming on key down. The 
rig works normally otherwise. The problem goes away once the FP Temp warms a 
little - I wrote the number down somewhere but can’t find it now. 

Good luck & 73,
Brian, K0DTJ

> On Oct 10, 2022, at 09:49, Michael Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> I'm voting with my friend Dave, K1WHS,
> for looking first at the voltage regulators.
> 
> The 8 volt regulator supplies the TC4427
> gate driver IC, which in turn provides 7R/7T voltages
> separately to the Transmit and Receive switching circuits.
> The loss of the 7R/7T voltages would disable the
> PIN diode T/R switches and render the radio deaf
> and unable to transmit.
> 
> If the 8 volt regulator doesn't collapse after some
> time observing its output voltage, I would check
> the TC4427 (U11 on the RF Board) to be sure its
> outputs are correct (the 7R/7T voltages).  The
> regulator is likely the first culprit - its '8A' output
> pin provides power to a large number of circuits
> in the radio.
> 
> 73,
> Mike, K8CN
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Strange Selective Hearing in My K3

2022-10-10 Thread Michael Carter
Hi Eric,

I'm voting with my friend Dave, K1WHS,
for looking first at the voltage regulators.

The 8 volt regulator supplies the TC4427
gate driver IC, which in turn provides 7R/7T voltages
separately to the Transmit and Receive switching circuits.
The loss of the 7R/7T voltages would disable the
PIN diode T/R switches and render the radio deaf
and unable to transmit.

If the 8 volt regulator doesn't collapse after some
time observing its output voltage, I would check
the TC4427 (U11 on the RF Board) to be sure its
outputs are correct (the 7R/7T voltages).  The
regulator is likely the first culprit - its '8A' output
pin provides power to a large number of circuits
in the radio.

73,
Mike, K8CN
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Strange Selective Hearing in My K3

2022-10-10 Thread David Olean
When the signals disappear, can you transmit and see RF output? You 
might be losing one of the regulated DC voltages from the three terminal 
regulators mounted on the side wall.  If you lose TX as well, check to 
make sure those regulators are working. It will affect all bands.


Dave K1WHS

On 10/9/2022 5:23 PM, Eric Fitzgerald wrote:

   I supposed in any lengthy marriage a selective ear or a biological
   mute button, so to speak, becomes inevitable ...or so it would
   appear with my aging K3, purchased in 2009.

   Here are the rather perplexing symptoms:

   After the K3 has been on a while all signals and noise disappear.
   The radios shows consistent s1 or 2 white noise. This is true on all
   bands, all modes and with the preamp, agc, noiseblanker, etc on or
   off. After turning the radio off for an hour or more, all signals
   return as normal - only to disappear again after an indeterminate
   period of time. I'm guessing that there is some failure that is
   affected by the component in question heating up.  I use this radio
   in receive almost 24/7 monitoring the bands. Perhaps she is just
   tired of listening for me? ;-) Any ideas what this might be? Stupid
   operator error is never out of the question around here.  I thought
   I would ask in here before bugging Elecraft service in case I'm
   missing something easy.

   TIA

   Eric KG6MZS

   www.kg6mzs.com

I should add that when I transmit a tone from WJST-X, say, the red 
light comes on the K3, one bar lights up on the K3's RF meter but no 
power or SWR is registered on my external meter.


So that would seem to eliminate anything disconnected from the rear 
panel connector via an intermittent connection.  If that were the 
case, I would expect to see a "High SWR" reading before the power 
folded back.


Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Strange Selective Hearing in My K3

2022-10-09 Thread Eric Fitzgerald

   I supposed in any lengthy marriage a selective ear or a biological
   mute button, so to speak, becomes inevitable ...or so it would
   appear with my aging K3, purchased in 2009.

   Here are the rather perplexing symptoms:

   After the K3 has been on a while all signals and noise disappear. 
   The radios shows consistent s1 or 2 white noise. This is true on all
   bands, all modes and with the preamp, agc, noiseblanker, etc on or
   off. After turning the radio off for an hour or more, all signals
   return as normal - only to disappear again after an indeterminate
   period of time. I'm guessing that there is some failure that is
   affected by the component in question heating up.  I use this radio
   in receive almost 24/7 monitoring the bands. Perhaps she is just
   tired of listening for me? ;-) Any ideas what this might be?  Stupid
   operator error is never out of the question around here.  I thought
   I would ask in here before bugging Elecraft service in case I'm
   missing something easy.

   TIA

   Eric KG6MZS

   www.kg6mzs.com

I should add that when I transmit a tone from WJST-X, say, the red light comes 
on the K3, one bar lights up on the K3's RF meter but no power or SWR is 
registered on my external meter.

So that would seem to eliminate anything disconnected from the rear panel connector via 
an intermittent connection.  If that were the case, I would expect to see a "High 
SWR" reading before the power folded back.

Eric
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