Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
On 2018-03-17 02:51 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: Someone told me the patent office issues patents now with little vetting and lets the courts figure it out. That would explain a lot if true. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/| "Nerds make the shiny things that https://www.patreon.html/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and | that's why we're powerful" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | #include | --Chris Hardwick __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
On 3/17/2018 11:51 AM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: > Someone told me the patent office issues patents now with little vetting and > lets the courts figure it out. To add to the chaos, disputes of infringement and the legitimacy of a patent are in the Federal arena while the amount of damages, if any, are decided by the state courts. Not being a patent attorney myself (my field is regulatory compliance) I have no first-hand experience with the USPTO, but abdication of statutory responsibility seems to be this generation's hallmark of Federal enforcement (including at my former Federal employer). 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
Someone told me the patent office issues patents now with little vetting and lets the courts figure it out. Chuck Jack Sent from my iPhone, cjack > On Mar 17, 2018, at 1:10 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > >> On 3/16/2018 3:56 PM, kevinr wrote: >> >> Re-inventing things over the centuries is quite common. The problem >> which needs to be solved pushes the imagination of the builder into >> crafting similar answers. > > Inventing something is a no-brainer. Getting patent protection for it > is something else! > My wife's grandfather had several hundred patents in the paper-handling > industry. At least one was violated by Eastman Kodak with no viable > recourse.!! > > Back to radio.. > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to c-haw...@illinois.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
Wayne and others The 2D fasteners - invented, patented or not - they make for some beautiful cabinets. They are both stylish and a delight to use. More good from Elecraft Jim - W4RKS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
On 3/16/2018 3:56 PM, kevinr wrote: > Re-inventing things over the centuries is quite common. The problem > which needs to be solved pushes the imagination of the builder into > crafting similar answers. Inventing something is a no-brainer. Getting patent protection for it is something else! My wife's grandfather had several hundred patents in the paper-handling industry. At least one was violated by Eastman Kodak with no viable recourse.!! Back to radio.. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
I think Wayne’s short 2D fasteners are kind of special. Being just long enough for the joint, they allow an adjustment that I’ve used so many times constructing the K transceivers, etc. to fit the panels and boards just so. Also light weight. Chuck KE9UW Urbana, IL Sent from my iPhone, cjack > On Mar 16, 2018, at 10:54 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: > > Don, > > I've used angle stock on more primitive projects but if you look at the > picture(s) you can see that the flat plates are joined with 3/8" square > aluminum bar stock. I used T6 material for its clean drilling and threading > properties. The flat plates are all 6061-T6 material as well. Everything > was laid out on a granite surface plate with the work held vertically and > layout lines scribed with a vernier height gauge. The holes were matched > drilled in the plates and bar stock. The bar stock was threaded (8-32) and > the plates drilled for screw clearance . But because of the precise layout > the parts were still interchangeable. > > Everything was power sanded, dipped in a caustic batch to slightly etch the > surface, water rinsed, dipped in an acid bath to remove the smut, rinsed > again and then given a conversion treatment (Alodine). All of the lettering > was engraved and filled with India ink and a drafting pen. All of this was > SOP on the specialized test equipment we built at Hughes back in the day. > > The only pieces in these two amplifiers that I didn't fab myself were the two > clamps for the cold ends of the plate lines on the 8877 amp. I did do all of > the silver plating as well. > > Wes > > >> On 3/16/2018 3:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> Wes, >> >> If you are referring to the aluminum angle stock, I used that back in 1960 >> when constructing a amplifier. I did not think I "invented" it, and at that >> time I did not have a drill press, just a hand drill and a tap, so the holes >> were not precisely spaced. It worked well, and complied with the TVI problem >> of that time (put everything in a shielded box). >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >>> On 3/16/2018 4:28 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: >>> Johnny come lately: I invented them in nineteen seventy something. And >>> mine really are 3D :-) >>> >>> http://sadxa.org/n7ws/K7CVT_Amp_Input_Compartment.jpg >>> >>> Overall views here: http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html >>> >>> Wes N7WS ex K7CVT >>> >>> On 3/16/2018 12:36 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: But they *do* allow you to join two enclosure planes while also supporting a PCB or other hardware. That was the intent of the design. (I invented these in 1998 :) Wayne N6KR >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com >> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to c-haw...@illinois.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
Don, I've used angle stock on more primitive projects but if you look at the picture(s) you can see that the flat plates are joined with 3/8" square aluminum bar stock. I used T6 material for its clean drilling and threading properties. The flat plates are all 6061-T6 material as well. Everything was laid out on a granite surface plate with the work held vertically and layout lines scribed with a vernier height gauge. The holes were matched drilled in the plates and bar stock. The bar stock was threaded (8-32) and the plates drilled for screw clearance . But because of the precise layout the parts were still interchangeable. Everything was power sanded, dipped in a caustic batch to slightly etch the surface, water rinsed, dipped in an acid bath to remove the smut, rinsed again and then given a conversion treatment (Alodine). All of the lettering was engraved and filled with India ink and a drafting pen. All of this was SOP on the specialized test equipment we built at Hughes back in the day. The only pieces in these two amplifiers that I didn't fab myself were the two clamps for the cold ends of the plate lines on the 8877 amp. I did do all of the silver plating as well. Wes On 3/16/2018 3:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Wes, If you are referring to the aluminum angle stock, I used that back in 1960 when constructing a amplifier. I did not think I "invented" it, and at that time I did not have a drill press, just a hand drill and a tap, so the holes were not precisely spaced. It worked well, and complied with the TVI problem of that time (put everything in a shielded box). 73, Don W3FPR On 3/16/2018 4:28 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: Johnny come lately: I invented them in nineteen seventy something. And mine really are 3D :-) http://sadxa.org/n7ws/K7CVT_Amp_Input_Compartment.jpg Overall views here: http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html Wes N7WS ex K7CVT On 3/16/2018 12:36 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: But they *do* allow you to join two enclosure planes while also supporting a PCB or other hardware. That was the intent of the design. (I invented these in 1998 :) Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
The same principle has been used in woodworking for quite a long time. My father learned it from his grandfather for cabinet making. I am currently watching the British '70s television series Connections. Re-inventing things over the centuries is quite common. The problem which needs to be solved pushes the imagination of the builder into crafting similar answers. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS On 03/16/2018 03:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Wes, If you are referring to the aluminum angle stock, I used that back in 1960 when constructing a amplifier. I did not think I "invented" it, and at that time I did not have a drill press, just a hand drill and a tap, so the holes were not precisely spaced. It worked well, and complied with the TVI problem of that time (put everything in a shielded box). 73, Don W3FPR On 3/16/2018 4:28 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: Johnny come lately: I invented them in nineteen seventy something. And mine really are 3D :-) http://sadxa.org/n7ws/K7CVT_Amp_Input_Compartment.jpg Overall views here: http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html Wes N7WS ex K7CVT On 3/16/2018 12:36 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: But they *do* allow you to join two enclosure planes while also supporting a PCB or other hardware. That was the intent of the design. (I invented these in 1998 :) Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kev...@coho.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
Wes, If you are referring to the aluminum angle stock, I used that back in 1960 when constructing a amplifier. I did not think I "invented" it, and at that time I did not have a drill press, just a hand drill and a tap, so the holes were not precisely spaced. It worked well, and complied with the TVI problem of that time (put everything in a shielded box). 73, Don W3FPR On 3/16/2018 4:28 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: Johnny come lately: I invented them in nineteen seventy something. And mine really are 3D :-) http://sadxa.org/n7ws/K7CVT_Amp_Input_Compartment.jpg Overall views here: http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html Wes N7WS ex K7CVT On 3/16/2018 12:36 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: But they *do* allow you to join two enclosure planes while also supporting a PCB or other hardware. That was the intent of the design. (I invented these in 1998 :) Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
And a great invention at that. I was amazed at how simple and yet so functional. Came with the K2! Beautiful. 72 & 73, Bill K9YEQ FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100, KAT500, W2, etc. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:36 PM To: kevinr Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners But they *do* allow you to join two enclosure planes while also supporting a PCB or other hardware. That was the intent of the design. (I invented these in 1998 :) Wayne N6KR > On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:29 PM, kevinr wrote: > > They are only able to connect one plane to another plane. They cannot > connect three planes at one time. Making a 2D connection is what they do. > >Kevin. KD5ONS > > > On 03/16/2018 11:47 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: >> I've never understood why a three-dimensional object is called "2D". >> >> On 3/16/2018 11:41 AM, EricJ wrote: >>> I bet they're proprietary to Elecraft, but I don't know that for sure. Easy >>> to make if you have a drill press, hacksaw and 4-40 drill and tap. Hard to >>> make without. If you make them, observe and measure very carefully. The >>> holes are not centered on the block. They're offset ~1 mm from centerline. >>> I forget exact dimensions. Be exact. >>> >>> Eric KE6US >>> >>> >>> On 3/16/2018 11:12 AM, G4GNX wrote: >>>> Does anyone know where I can buy a small quantity of the 2D Fasteners that >>>> hold Elecraft cases together? These are the aluminum blocks with 2 >>>> threaded holes on one pair of sides and 1 threaded hole in the other pair >>>> of sides. >>>> >>>> Is there an alternative name for them? I tried Google and came up with >>>> nothing. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> >>>> Alan. G4GNX >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> kev...@coho.net >> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k9...@live.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
I'm glad you see it my way :-) BTW, a couple of our other club members projects are worth taking a look at. Also, one of our members reported at last night's meeting that he received his KPA1500 the day before but didn't have in on the air yet. Wes On 3/16/2018 1:34 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: You win :) W http://www.elecraft.com On Mar 16, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: Johnny come lately: I invented them in nineteen seventy something. And mine really are 3D :-) http://sadxa.org/n7ws/K7CVT_Amp_Input_Compartment.jpg Overall views here: http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html Wes N7WS ex K7CVT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
You win :) W http://www.elecraft.com > On Mar 16, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: > > Johnny come lately: I invented them in nineteen seventy something. And mine > really are 3D :-) > > http://sadxa.org/n7ws/K7CVT_Amp_Input_Compartment.jpg > > Overall views here: http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html > > Wes N7WS ex K7CVT > > >> On 3/16/2018 12:36 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> But they *do* allow you to join two enclosure planes while also supporting a >> PCB or other hardware. That was the intent of the design. (I invented these >> in 1998 :) >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
Johnny come lately: I invented them in nineteen seventy something. And mine really are 3D :-) http://sadxa.org/n7ws/K7CVT_Amp_Input_Compartment.jpg Overall views here: http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html Wes N7WS ex K7CVT On 3/16/2018 12:36 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: But they *do* allow you to join two enclosure planes while also supporting a PCB or other hardware. That was the intent of the design. (I invented these in 1998 :) Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
Thanks Don and everyone else who replied. I had not realised that they are proprietary to Elecraft. I've had one possible offer of some spare ones, but if I need more, I'll contact Elecraft Sales. 73, Alan. G4GNX -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 7:17 PM To: G4GNX ; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners Alan, That is a custom design by Elecraft, so I doubt there are alternate sources. You can order by contacting Elecaft sales (sa...@elecraft.com) and ask for p/n E100078 - 2-D Fastener. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/16/2018 2:12 PM, G4GNX wrote: Does anyone know where I can buy a small quantity of the 2D Fasteners that hold Elecraft cases together? These are the aluminum blocks with 2 threaded holes on one pair of sides and 1 threaded hole in the other pair of sides. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
Perhaps the incorrect wording is being assumed. 3D is 3 Dimensional to most folks. 2D in this particular case is probably better described as 2 Directional (as in fixing item 1 to item 2). 73, Alan. G4GNX -Original Message- From: Wayne Burdick Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 7:36 PM To: kevinr Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners But they *do* allow you to join two enclosure planes while also supporting a PCB or other hardware. That was the intent of the design. (I invented these in 1998 :) Wayne N6KR On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:29 PM, kevinr wrote: They are only able to connect one plane to another plane. They cannot connect three planes at one time. Making a 2D connection is what they do. Kevin. KD5ONS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
But they *do* allow you to join two enclosure planes while also supporting a PCB or other hardware. That was the intent of the design. (I invented these in 1998 :) Wayne N6KR > On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:29 PM, kevinr wrote: > > They are only able to connect one plane to another plane. They cannot > connect three planes at one time. Making a 2D connection is what they do. > >Kevin. KD5ONS > > > On 03/16/2018 11:47 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: >> I've never understood why a three-dimensional object is called "2D". >> >> On 3/16/2018 11:41 AM, EricJ wrote: >>> I bet they're proprietary to Elecraft, but I don't know that for sure. Easy >>> to make if you have a drill press, hacksaw and 4-40 drill and tap. Hard to >>> make without. If you make them, observe and measure very carefully. The >>> holes are not centered on the block. They're offset ~1 mm from centerline. >>> I forget exact dimensions. Be exact. >>> >>> Eric KE6US >>> >>> >>> On 3/16/2018 11:12 AM, G4GNX wrote: Does anyone know where I can buy a small quantity of the 2D Fasteners that hold Elecraft cases together? These are the aluminum blocks with 2 threaded holes on one pair of sides and 1 threaded hole in the other pair of sides. Is there an alternative name for them? I tried Google and came up with nothing. 73, Alan. G4GNX >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kev...@coho.net >> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
They are only able to connect one plane to another plane. They cannot connect three planes at one time. Making a 2D connection is what they do. Kevin. KD5ONS On 03/16/2018 11:47 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: I've never understood why a three-dimensional object is called "2D". On 3/16/2018 11:41 AM, EricJ wrote: I bet they're proprietary to Elecraft, but I don't know that for sure. Easy to make if you have a drill press, hacksaw and 4-40 drill and tap. Hard to make without. If you make them, observe and measure very carefully. The holes are not centered on the block. They're offset ~1 mm from centerline. I forget exact dimensions. Be exact. Eric KE6US On 3/16/2018 11:12 AM, G4GNX wrote: Does anyone know where I can buy a small quantity of the 2D Fasteners that hold Elecraft cases together? These are the aluminum blocks with 2 threaded holes on one pair of sides and 1 threaded hole in the other pair of sides. Is there an alternative name for them? I tried Google and came up with nothing. 73, Alan. G4GNX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kev...@coho.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
Alan, That is a custom design by Elecraft, so I doubt there are alternate sources. You can order by contacting Elecaft sales (sa...@elecraft.com) and ask for p/n E100078 - 2-D Fastener. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/16/2018 2:12 PM, G4GNX wrote: Does anyone know where I can buy a small quantity of the 2D Fasteners that hold Elecraft cases together? These are the aluminum blocks with 2 threaded holes on one pair of sides and 1 threaded hole in the other pair of sides. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
Hi Alan, We designed these specifically for our products; they are not available commercially. Please contact sales if you require a small quantity of them. 73, Wayne N6KR > On Mar 16, 2018, at 11:12 AM, G4GNX wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can buy a small quantity of the 2D Fasteners that > hold Elecraft cases together? These are the aluminum blocks with 2 threaded > holes on one pair of sides and 1 threaded hole in the other pair of sides. > > Is there an alternative name for them? I tried Google and came up with > nothing. > > 73, > > Alan. G4GNX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: > I've never understood why a three-dimensional object is called "2D". Presumably because they *fasten* in two dimensions (there are no threaded holes in the ends of the blocks). 73, ~iain / N6ML > On 3/16/2018 11:41 AM, EricJ wrote: >> >> I bet they're proprietary to Elecraft, but I don't know that for sure. >> Easy to make if you have a drill press, hacksaw and 4-40 drill and tap. Hard >> to make without. If you make them, observe and measure very carefully. The >> holes are not centered on the block. They're offset ~1 mm from centerline. I >> forget exact dimensions. Be exact. >> >> Eric KE6US >> >> >> On 3/16/2018 11:12 AM, G4GNX wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know where I can buy a small quantity of the 2D Fasteners >>> that hold Elecraft cases together? These are the aluminum blocks with 2 >>> threaded holes on one pair of sides and 1 threaded hole in the other pair of >>> sides. >>> >>> Is there an alternative name for them? I tried Google and came up with >>> nothing. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Alan. G4GNX > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to a...@dseven.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
I've never understood why a three-dimensional object is called "2D". On 3/16/2018 11:41 AM, EricJ wrote: I bet they're proprietary to Elecraft, but I don't know that for sure. Easy to make if you have a drill press, hacksaw and 4-40 drill and tap. Hard to make without. If you make them, observe and measure very carefully. The holes are not centered on the block. They're offset ~1 mm from centerline. I forget exact dimensions. Be exact. Eric KE6US On 3/16/2018 11:12 AM, G4GNX wrote: Does anyone know where I can buy a small quantity of the 2D Fasteners that hold Elecraft cases together? These are the aluminum blocks with 2 threaded holes on one pair of sides and 1 threaded hole in the other pair of sides. Is there an alternative name for them? I tried Google and came up with nothing. 73, Alan. G4GNX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
I bet they're proprietary to Elecraft, but I don't know that for sure. Easy to make if you have a drill press, hacksaw and 4-40 drill and tap. Hard to make without. If you make them, observe and measure very carefully. The holes are not centered on the block. They're offset ~1 mm from centerline. I forget exact dimensions. Be exact. Eric KE6US On 3/16/2018 11:12 AM, G4GNX wrote: Does anyone know where I can buy a small quantity of the 2D Fasteners that hold Elecraft cases together? These are the aluminum blocks with 2 threaded holes on one pair of sides and 1 threaded hole in the other pair of sides. Is there an alternative name for them? I tried Google and came up with nothing. 73, Alan. G4GNX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to eric.c...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
> I am curious about the 2D fasteners that Elecraft uses. Who makes them and > can they be purchased in "larger" sizes? Or, are they something the "E" > dreamed up? Elecraft buys them from another source. Elecraft doesn't sell them, but last time I inquired about this (a couple years ago) they were glad to pass on the manufacturer's info, which I've already forgotten... Not sure about the larger sizes. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners
The 2Ds are custom made for Elecraft. Wayne dreamed them up. 73, Eric WA6HHQ _..._ -Original Message- From: Lee Buller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 9:12 am Subject: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners To: Elecraft Reflector I am curious about the 2D fasteners that Elecraft uses. Who makes them and can they be purchased in "larger" sizes? Or, are they something the "E" dreamed up? Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
