Re: [Elecraft] APF suggestion

2010-11-08 Thread The Smiths

What do you propose for those of us that use the Notch all the time? Should it 
just be removed?  
 
If there's this much trouble with toggling through filters on accident, 
wouldn't it make more sense to have the tap XFIL button the APF on/off button, 
and the HOLD the Dual PB on/off function?  A message could come up saying APF 
N/A if the Dual PB was on, and a message that said Dual PB N/A if the APF were 
already on 
Of course there could be a menu selection for those that want to have the XFIL 
button work as normal...
 
Honestly, after testing the APF I really don't find THAT much need to open and 
close the filters while I'm in the APF mode, if I do, I guess I could just as 
easily turn the Width knob to adjust the Width to my liking  Just my 
opinion.
 
 
 

 
 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:04:50 -0500
 From: nn4x.st...@gmail.com
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] APF suggestion
 
 I've been enjoying the APF quite a bit.
 
 My only suggestion, mirroring what some other folks have said, would
 be to have it enabled by the NTCH button rather than the XFIL
 button.
 
 I find myself sometimes switching through the different filters when I
 really want the APF.
 
 73,
 Steve
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Re: [Elecraft] APF suggestion

2010-11-08 Thread S Sacco
Perhaps it's me doing something dumb, but the Notch function doesn't
seem to work concurrently with the APF; ergo my suggestion.

What I find with the XFIL button is that I'm inadvertently and
frequently toggling through the filter settings when I just want to
enable/disable the APF.



On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote:
 What do you propose for those of us that use the Notch all the time? Should
 it just be removed?

 If there's this much trouble with toggling through filters on accident,
 wouldn't it make more sense to have the tap XFIL button the APF on/off
 button, and the HOLD the Dual PB on/off function?  A message could come up
 saying APF N/A if the Dual PB was on, and a message that said Dual PB N/A if
 the APF were already on
 Of course there could be a menu selection for those that want to have the
 XFIL button work as normal...

 Honestly, after testing the APF I really don't find THAT much need to open
 and close the filters while I'm in the APF mode, if I do, I guess I could
 just as easily turn the Width knob to adjust the Width to my liking
 Just my opinion.





 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:04:50 -0500
 From: nn4x.st...@gmail.com
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] APF suggestion

 I've been enjoying the APF quite a bit.

 My only suggestion, mirroring what some other folks have said, would
 be to have it enabled by the NTCH button rather than the XFIL
 button.

 I find myself sometimes switching through the different filters when I
 really want the APF.

 73,
 Steve
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Re: [Elecraft] APF suggestion

2010-11-08 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
That's the problem dumping too many functions into one box, I think. I have
an Elecraft AF1 Audio Filter between the K3 and my phones. It's an active
filter offering the same bandpass characteristic as the APF using analog
devices except that it also offers two selections of Q. 

I can't decide whether one is better than the other: the APF or the AF1. But
it is nice having separate controls for the filter function. 

73,

Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of The Smiths

What do you propose for those of us that use the Notch all the time? Should
it just be removed?  
 

 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] APF suggestion

2010-11-08 Thread S Sacco
Perhaps it's me doing something dumb, but the Notch function doesn't
seem to work concurrently with the APF; ergo my suggestion.

What I find with the XFIL button is that I'm inadvertently and
frequently toggling through the filter settings when I just want to
enable/disable the APF.



On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote:
 What do you propose for those of us that use the Notch all the time? Should
 it just be removed?

 If there's this much trouble with toggling through filters on accident,
 wouldn't it make more sense to have the tap XFIL button the APF on/off
 button, and the HOLD the Dual PB on/off function?  A message could come up
 saying APF N/A if the Dual PB was on, and a message that said Dual PB N/A if
 the APF were already on
 Of course there could be a menu selection for those that want to have the
 XFIL button work as normal...

 Honestly, after testing the APF I really don't find THAT much need to open
 and close the filters while I'm in the APF mode, if I do, I guess I could
 just as easily turn the Width knob to adjust the Width to my liking
 Just my opinion.





 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:04:50 -0500
 From: nn4x.st...@gmail.com
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] APF suggestion

 I've been enjoying the APF quite a bit.

 My only suggestion, mirroring what some other folks have said, would
 be to have it enabled by the NTCH button rather than the XFIL
 button.

 I find myself sometimes switching through the different filters when I
 really want the APF.

 73,
 Steve
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Re: [Elecraft] APF suggestion

2010-11-08 Thread The Smiths

I'm still running Alpha software and my notch does work with the APF on.. so 
I'm not sure if it doesn't in the 4.18 release software.  But I still wouldn't 
want to loose the option for it to work if I had to go into the menu to select 
between the two tools.  
The DSP CAN'T run the Dual PF and the APF at the same time, therefore using 
that Dual PB button was the best answer to the problem of where to put it.  
However, like I said, since people are having toggle issues with hitting the 
XFIL on accident instead of HOLDING Dual PB, I figured that it would be best to 
just put it there instead. The N/A reminder would tell people when they need to 
turn one or the other off...
 
 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:49:44 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APF suggestion
 From: nn4x.st...@gmail.com
 To: notforc...@hotmail.com
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 Perhaps it's me doing something dumb, but the Notch function doesn't
 seem to work concurrently with the APF; ergo my suggestion.
 
 What I find with the XFIL button is that I'm inadvertently and
 frequently toggling through the filter settings when I just want to
 enable/disable the APF.
 
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote:
  What do you propose for those of us that use the Notch all the time? Should
  it just be removed?
 
  If there's this much trouble with toggling through filters on accident,
  wouldn't it make more sense to have the tap XFIL button the APF on/off
  button, and the HOLD the Dual PB on/off function?  A message could come up
  saying APF N/A if the Dual PB was on, and a message that said Dual PB N/A if
  the APF were already on
  Of course there could be a menu selection for those that want to have the
  XFIL button work as normal...
 
  Honestly, after testing the APF I really don't find THAT much need to open
  and close the filters while I'm in the APF mode, if I do, I guess I could
  just as easily turn the Width knob to adjust the Width to my liking
  Just my opinion.
 
 
 
 
 
  Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:04:50 -0500
  From: nn4x.st...@gmail.com
  To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: [Elecraft] APF suggestion
 
  I've been enjoying the APF quite a bit.
 
  My only suggestion, mirroring what some other folks have said, would
  be to have it enabled by the NTCH button rather than the XFIL
  button.
 
  I find myself sometimes switching through the different filters when I
  really want the APF.
 
  73,
  Steve
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Re: [Elecraft] APF suggestion

2010-11-08 Thread Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:49:44 -0500, S Sacco nn4x.st...@gmail.com  wrote:

1. The notch filter only works in MANUAL mode in CW mode.  When it is in manual
mode you have to adjust the notch the carrier using the VFO B knob.

2. The APF does not work when you TAP the XFIL button.  That changes the filter.
You have to HOLD the DUAL PB button.  When a label is yellow it means that you
have to hold the button above the label down (I think it's for 200ms) to active
the menu item named in yellow.

Tom
Radio Amateur N5GE

Perhaps it's me doing something dumb, but the Notch function doesn't
seem to work concurrently with the APF; ergo my suggestion.

What I find with the XFIL button is that I'm inadvertently and
frequently toggling through the filter settings when I just want to
enable/disable the APF.



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