Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-26 Thread Jim Brown

David,

From my work on the AES Standards Committee, I know that EU and the UK 
is far ahead of NA in this regard. There are no such restrictions in NA.


73, Jim K9YC

On Wed,4/26/2017 4:04 AM, David Woolley wrote:
I don't believe that it is legal to market a power supply that only 
draws current on input peaks in either the USA or EU these days.  
Power supplies are supposed to spread the current demand over a 
significant part of the cycle.



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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-26 Thread Alan Bloom
The IEC 555 standard (later superseded by IEC 61000-3-2) specifies 
allowed harmonic distortion in the power supply current of electronic 
equipment:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_61000-3-2

I believe it is mandatory in Europe and some other countries but not the 
United States:


http://www.metlabs.com/emc/emc-testing-requirement-for-it-equipment-varies-by-country/

Alan N1AL


On 04/26/2017 04:04 AM, David Woolley wrote:

I don't believe that it is legal to market a power supply that only
draws current on input peaks in either the USA or EU these days.  Power
supplies are supposed to spread the current demand over a significant
part of the cycle.  I believe this is done by having a relatively low
value capacitor on the mains side and relying on the switching regulator
to compensate for the wide voltage variations across each cycle.  I
believe that even applies to wall warts.

This "power factor correction" will not be perfect, so the peak current
will still be more than for a resistive load.


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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-26 Thread David Woolley
I don't believe that it is legal to market a power supply that only 
draws current on input peaks in either the USA or EU these days.  Power 
supplies are supposed to spread the current demand over a significant 
part of the cycle.  I believe this is done by having a relatively low 
value capacitor on the mains side and relying on the switching regulator 
to compensate for the wide voltage variations across each cycle.  I 
believe that even applies to wall warts.


This "power factor correction" will not be perfect, so the peak current 
will still be more than for a resistive load.


--
David Woolley K2 06123

On 25/04/17 04:51, Jim Brown wrote:

The reason for using 240VAC is to reduce the IR drop in the AC line,
which, BTW, is not sinusoidal, but rather pulses that charge the filter
caps at the peaks of each cycle. So the drop in the wire is even greater
than Ohm's law appliced to a sine wave would predict.


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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-24 Thread Jim Brown
The reason for using 240VAC is to reduce the IR drop in the AC line, 
which, BTW, is not sinusoidal, but rather pulses that charge the filter 
caps at the peaks of each cycle. So the drop in the wire is even greater 
than Ohm's law appliced to a sine wave would predict.


73, Jim K9YC

On Thu,4/20/2017 12:53 PM, Jeff wrote:

The single transistor SPE 1.3K will do 1500 watts on 110v.



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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Matthew Cook
Right so if I book a ticket now I can get there Sunday... damn that's a
long drive.

73

Matthew
VK5ZM

On 21 April 2017 at 02:20, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
>
> Watch this space for further details :)
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> Eric, WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Matthew Cook
Apparently he's here this weekend.

73

Matthew
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On 21 April 2017 at 08:22, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:

> Eric, you are better at that than White House spokesperson Mr. Spicer!
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric
> Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 3:08 PM
> To: KV5J; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia
> DX convention this weekend...
>
> The posting below is a little inaccurate.
>
> If we are going to announce something like everyone is talking about, we
> are
> not yet taking orders.
>
> That said, we can put people on a notification list for when we will have
> additional info and for when we will be taking orders for whatever we are
> talking about.
>
> 73,
>
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
>
> On 4/20/2017 2:54 PM, KV5J via Elecraft wrote:
> > I just called and pre-ordered one.  I'm 3rd. on the list! Better hurry.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Chuck Chandler
I work at a university. One day I asked around the Physical Plant if any of
the electricians did side jobs. One stopped by that afternoon and I
explained what I wanted. He quoted me a great price and the next day after
work he and another guy showed up. Less than 45 minutes later I plugged in
the amp.

It is amazing how quickly a pro can do the job. Sometimes it's worth the
money.

73 de Chuck, WS1L
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 16:08 Ronnie Hull  wrote:

> Ted, LOL.  Don't let the dragons breathe on ya! Lots of Engineer wannabe's
> out there!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 20, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Kevin - K4VD  wrote:
> >
> > Ya. Which bank to rob.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Kev K4VD
> >
> >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Dauer, Edward 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Guess I have to get an electrician to come out and give me another quote
> >> on a dedicated 240 VAC line to the shack.
> >>
> >> And all new baluns.
> >>
> >> And I have to check if the remote antenna switch relays are rated for
> more
> >> than 600 watts; if not, then replace that.
> >>
> >> Several hundreds of feet of coax to replace all of the ’58, right?
> >>
> >> Ferrite chokes and bypass caps on the external lighting around the
> house,
> >> and on the outside motion detectors.
> >>
> >> Anything I’ve left out?
> >>
> >> Ted, KN1CBR
> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Eric, you are better at that than White House spokesperson Mr. Spicer!

73, Ron AC7AC

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Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 3:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia
DX convention this weekend...

The posting below is a little inaccurate.

If we are going to announce something like everyone is talking about, we are
not yet taking orders.

That said, we can put people on a notification list for when we will have
additional info and for when we will be taking orders for whatever we are
talking about.

73,

Eric
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On 4/20/2017 2:54 PM, KV5J via Elecraft wrote:
> I just called and pre-ordered one.  I'm 3rd. on the list! Better hurry.
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

The posting below is a little inaccurate.

If we are going to announce something like everyone is talking about, we are not 
yet taking orders.


That said, we can put people on a notification list for when we will have 
additional info and for when we will be taking orders for whatever we are 
talking about.


73,

Eric
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On 4/20/2017 2:54 PM, KV5J via Elecraft wrote:

I just called and pre-ordered one.  I'm 3rd. on the list! Better hurry.



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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread KV5J via Elecraft
I just called and pre-ordered one.  I'm 3rd. on the list! Better hurry.



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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Neil Zampella
OK ... I only have a KX3/KXPA100/PX3 setup, but I'm excited to see 
something like this .. and its 19 days after April 1st too !!


What I want to know is:

Will you LIVE STREAM (of any sort) the reveal, or will you keep the rest 
of us in the hinterland unable to attend in suspense because you can't 
email due to all the pre-orders you'll be taking ??



Neil Z.
KN3ILZ


On 4/20/2017 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

Watch this space for further details :)

73,

Wayne, N6KR
Eric, WA6HHQ




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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Ronnie Hull
Ted, LOL.  Don't let the dragons breathe on ya! Lots of Engineer wannabe's out 
there!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 20, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Kevin - K4VD  wrote:
> 
> Ya. Which bank to rob.
> 
> :)
> 
> Kev K4VD
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:
>> 
>> Guess I have to get an electrician to come out and give me another quote
>> on a dedicated 240 VAC line to the shack.
>> 
>> And all new baluns.
>> 
>> And I have to check if the remote antenna switch relays are rated for more
>> than 600 watts; if not, then replace that.
>> 
>> Several hundreds of feet of coax to replace all of the ’58, right?
>> 
>> Ferrite chokes and bypass caps on the external lighting around the house,
>> and on the outside motion detectors.
>> 
>> Anything I’ve left out?
>> 
>> Ted, KN1CBR
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Ron Wilcox
I was lucky when I put in my 240v for my kenwood 922 a couple of years ago,
a very good friend is a licensed electrician, would not let me pay him very
much, it always pays to be nice to everyone you know

Today is a good day to have a Great Day!
73   Ron Wilcox KF7ZN

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:

> A 120VAC/20A circuit is appropriate for a lot of things  a 1500W HF
> amp is not one of them.
>
> Just do the 240 circuit...
>
> http://montac.com/images/shack_power/outlets.jpg
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/67hjpy126yr48sg/2016-08-28%2009.51.14.jpg?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/16iflr76lvwe88c/2016-08-28%2018.19.38.jpg?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bkz0k60nzzsg1y0/2016-07-28%2018.29.45.jpg?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/92jeckuevh9t8j2/2016-07-27%2015.28.52.jpg?dl=0
>
> Twisted pairs, steel conduit from service to sub, sub, to outlets,
> 240VAC/60A sub-panel, 8 x 120VAC/20A, 2 x 240VAC/15, 2 x 220VAC/20A
>
> Just find an electrician who will inspect/sign off on the work.
>
> __
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>
> On 4/20/2017 3:14 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> > It might, but at typical efficiencies 1500W peak output would be a
> significant draw on the existing 117 VAC wiring – likely over 20 amps.
> With the K3/KPA500 as it is I get a just perceptible flicker in the room
> lights when keying.  With a dedicated 240 volt line I could also add a
> cooler for the drinks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ted, KN1CBR
> >
> >
> > On 4/20/17, 1:53 PM, "Jeff"  wrote:
> >
> > Not so fast on the 240 VAC line Ted.  The single transistor SPE 1.3K
> will do
> > 1500 watts on 110v. It will be interesting to see if the Elecraft
> 1500w AMP
> > turns out to be a single transistor design...
> >
> > 73 Jeff kb2m
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Clay Autery
A 120VAC/20A circuit is appropriate for a lot of things  a 1500W HF
amp is not one of them.

Just do the 240 circuit...

http://montac.com/images/shack_power/outlets.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/67hjpy126yr48sg/2016-08-28%2009.51.14.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/16iflr76lvwe88c/2016-08-28%2018.19.38.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bkz0k60nzzsg1y0/2016-07-28%2018.29.45.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/92jeckuevh9t8j2/2016-07-27%2015.28.52.jpg?dl=0

Twisted pairs, steel conduit from service to sub, sub, to outlets,
240VAC/60A sub-panel, 8 x 120VAC/20A, 2 x 240VAC/15, 2 x 220VAC/20A

Just find an electrician who will inspect/sign off on the work.

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On 4/20/2017 3:14 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> It might, but at typical efficiencies 1500W peak output would be a 
> significant draw on the existing 117 VAC wiring – likely over 20 amps.  With 
> the K3/KPA500 as it is I get a just perceptible flicker in the room lights 
> when keying.  With a dedicated 240 volt line I could also add a cooler for 
> the drinks.
>
>
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
>
>
> On 4/20/17, 1:53 PM, "Jeff"  wrote:
>
> Not so fast on the 240 VAC line Ted.  The single transistor SPE 1.3K will 
> do 
> 1500 watts on 110v. It will be interesting to see if the Elecraft 1500w 
> AMP 
> turns out to be a single transistor design...
> 
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Jim Kutsch
No, it's not times that have changed; it's the sunspot cycle that has
changed. QRP for sunspot cycle peaks and QRO for all-time minimums.

73, Jim, KY2D


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Cozens
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DX convention this weekend...

The K line started with QRP levels and now they may be up to a 1500W amp? 
How times have changed.

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Phil Hystad
I agree, changinging my mind, the numbers read out:  …, 900, 1100, 1300, 1500, 
1700, 1900.
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Phil Hystad  wrote:
> 
> The last four numbers that are clipped by the top region of the photo are all 
> four-digit numbers or so it appears.  But, I really looks like the first of 
> those four digit numbers is 1100 but the second of them looks most like 1000. 
>  However, the far right number does look like 1500 more than anything else 
> but the 3rd number (from the left) in the list could be 1300.  But, the 
> mystery is why does the first number look like 1100 when the second one looks 
> like 1000.
> 
> To read these, I blew up the photo image about a 4 or 5 time zoom level.
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
>> 
>> Well YOU designed it Wayne...  :-) What I'm seeing is a questionable 1700 as 
>> the second from the right, a vertical number on the right most (implies a 
>> 1), with an unclosed loop on the second digit on the right most that looks 
>> like the bottom half of a 5
>> 
>> 
>> Then add that the model number carefully only shows the xxx500, it appears 
>> to be a legal limit amp if pushed hard.
>> 
>> Rick nhc
>> 
>> (won't be in Visalia, packing to leave CA).
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/20/2017 10:22 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
 
 Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at 
 1500 watts.
 
 Rick nhc
>>> 
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
>> 
>> Watch this space for further details :)
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
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>> Eric, WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Clay Autery
Without a doubt

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On 4/20/2017 2:51 PM, Chris Tate - N6WM wrote:
> Im here..  with my checkbook.  I'm gonna get in trouble this weekend me 
> thinks ;-)
>
> Thanks
> ~C.
>
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>>
>> http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
>>
>> Watch this space for further details :)
>>
>> 73,
>>
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>> Eric, WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Phil Hystad
The last four numbers that are clipped by the top region of the photo are all 
four-digit numbers or so it appears.  But, I really looks like the first of 
those four digit numbers is 1100 but the second of them looks most like 1000.  
However, the far right number does look like 1500 more than anything else but 
the 3rd number (from the left) in the list could be 1300.  But, the mystery is 
why does the first number look like 1100 when the second one looks like 1000.

To read these, I blew up the photo image about a 4 or 5 time zoom level.

73, phil, K7PEH

> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
> 
> Well YOU designed it Wayne...  :-) What I'm seeing is a questionable 1700 as 
> the second from the right, a vertical number on the right most (implies a 1), 
> with an unclosed loop on the second digit on the right most that looks like 
> the bottom half of a 5
> 
> 
> Then add that the model number carefully only shows the xxx500, it appears to 
> be a legal limit amp if pushed hard.
> 
> Rick nhc
> 
> (won't be in Visalia, packing to leave CA).
> 
> 
> On 4/20/2017 10:22 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at 1500 
>>> watts.
>>> 
>>> Rick nhc
>> 
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
> 
> Watch this space for further details :)
> 
> 73,
> 
> Wayne, N6KR
> Eric, WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Dauer, Edward
It might, but at typical efficiencies 1500W peak output would be a significant 
draw on the existing 117 VAC wiring – likely over 20 amps.  With the K3/KPA500 
as it is I get a just perceptible flicker in the room lights when keying.  With 
a dedicated 240 volt line I could also add a cooler for the drinks.



Ted, KN1CBR


On 4/20/17, 1:53 PM, "Jeff"  wrote:

Not so fast on the 240 VAC line Ted.  The single transistor SPE 1.3K will 
do 
1500 watts on 110v. It will be interesting to see if the Elecraft 1500w AMP 
turns out to be a single transistor design...

73 Jeff kb2m

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 3:01 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX 
convention this weekend...

Guess I have to get an electrician to come out and give me another quote on 
a dedicated 240 VAC line to the shack.

And all new baluns.

And I have to check if the remote antenna switch relays are rated for more 
than 600 watts; if not, then replace that.

Several hundreds of feet of coax to replace all of the ’58, right?

Ferrite chokes and bypass caps on the external lighting around the house, 
and on the outside motion detectors.

Anything I’ve left out?

Ted, KN1CBR

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Wes Stewart

So has propagation.

On 4/20/2017 1:00 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:
The K line started with QRP levels and now they may be up to a 1500W amp? How 
times have changed.




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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Fred Jensen
Does anyone [except Wayne, Eric, and a few engineers] actually know 
that, or are we just kicking around "alternative facts?"


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
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On 4/20/2017 1:00 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:
The K line started with QRP levels and now they may be up to a 1500W 
amp? How times have changed.




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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Jim Miller
Credit card cleaned, lubed, locked and loaded!!

Woot!!!

Jim ab3cv

On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

Watch this space for further details :)

73,

Wayne, N6KR
Eric, WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Kevin Cozens
The K line started with QRP levels and now they may be up to a 1500W amp? 
How times have changed.


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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Jeff
Not so fast on the 240 VAC line Ted.  The single transistor SPE 1.3K will do 
1500 watts on 110v. It will be interesting to see if the Elecraft 1500w AMP 
turns out to be a single transistor design...


73 Jeff kb2m

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX 
convention this weekend...


Guess I have to get an electrician to come out and give me another quote on 
a dedicated 240 VAC line to the shack.


And all new baluns.

And I have to check if the remote antenna switch relays are rated for more 
than 600 watts; if not, then replace that.


Several hundreds of feet of coax to replace all of the ’58, right?

Ferrite chokes and bypass caps on the external lighting around the house, 
and on the outside motion detectors.


Anything I’ve left out?

Ted, KN1CBR

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Chris Tate - N6WM
Im here..  with my checkbook.  I'm gonna get in trouble this weekend me thinks 
;-)

Thanks
~C.

> On Apr 20, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
> 
> Watch this space for further details :)
> 
> 73,
> 
> Wayne, N6KR
> Eric, WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Clay Autery
Just so you know  you CAN do all the work yourself, save a bundle,
AND get it constructed precisely the way YOU want it.

All the rest of that just gives you some fun stuff to do

There is ALWAYS one more thing you can do...  ;)

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On 4/20/2017 2:01 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> Guess I have to get an electrician to come out and give me another quote on a 
> dedicated 240 VAC line to the shack.
>
> And all new baluns.
>
> And I have to check if the remote antenna switch relays are rated for more 
> than 600 watts; if not, then replace that.
>
> Several hundreds of feet of coax to replace all of the ’58, right?
>
> Ferrite chokes and bypass caps on the external lighting around the house, and 
> on the outside motion detectors.
>
> Anything I’ve left out?
>
> Ted, KN1CBR

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Mark Bayern
hmmm ... saw (and laid hands on) something like this in 2006. Maybe
Elecraft will actually sell it this time?

Mark  AD5SS





On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
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> Watch this space for further details :)
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> 73,
>
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> Eric, WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Clay Autery
I stand corrected...  :)

Still legal limit with headroom only way Elecraft would do it.

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On 4/20/2017 1:42 PM, Mike Harris wrote:
> Decreasing by 200 each second led to the left. Makes 100W per led
> starting at 100.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> On 20/04/2017 15:29, Clay Autery wrote:
>> Yep...  top LED 1900, decreasing by 200 each LED descending to the left
>> of the photo.
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Ian Kahn
Eric/Wayne,

I think this constitutes cruel and unusual punishment! 😉

73 de,

Ian, KM4IK


On Apr 20, 2017 12:52 PM, "Wayne Burdick"  wrote:

http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

Watch this space for further details :)

73,

Wayne, N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Brian & Cyndi

If WAYNE is promoting this, it must be a keyer, and 1500 is the dit rate.

73,

Brian, W6FVI


On 4/20/2017 9:50 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

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73,

Wayne, N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Kevin - K4VD
Ya. Which bank to rob.

:)

Kev K4VD

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:

> Guess I have to get an electrician to come out and give me another quote
> on a dedicated 240 VAC line to the shack.
>
> And all new baluns.
>
> And I have to check if the remote antenna switch relays are rated for more
> than 600 watts; if not, then replace that.
>
> Several hundreds of feet of coax to replace all of the ’58, right?
>
> Ferrite chokes and bypass caps on the external lighting around the house,
> and on the outside motion detectors.
>
> Anything I’ve left out?
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Mike Harris
Decreasing by 200 each second led to the left. Makes 100W per led 
starting at 100.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 20/04/2017 15:29, Clay Autery wrote:

Yep...  top LED 1900, decreasing by 200 each LED descending to the left
of the photo.

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Clay Autery
Yep...  top LED 1900, decreasing by 200 each LED descending to the left
of the photo.

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On 4/20/2017 1:26 PM, Ed Muns wrote:
> Or, 1900.
>
> 73,
> Ed W0YK
> On Apr 20, 2017 10:42 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
>> It can't be... the curl on the second digit, right most number, implies 
>> 1500.
>>
>> On 4/20/2017 10:22 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Clay Autery
I REALLY, REALLY hope that it does NOT contain an internal power supply,
but I fear that it will.

It doesn't matter...  not a deal killer.

Just take my money  I'm so glad I delayed a little building my own
(though I'll still be building my own).

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On 4/20/2017 1:09 PM, M0VFC wrote:
> But how much is the table bending under the weight? Switch-mode PSU, I hope?
>
> Fingers crossed :-)
>
> 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Ed Muns
Or, 1900.

73,
Ed W0YK
On Apr 20, 2017 10:42 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
>
> It can't be... the curl on the second digit, right most number, implies 
> 1500.
>
> On 4/20/2017 10:22 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
> >>
> >> Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at 
> >> 1500 watts.
> >>
> >> Rick nhc
> >
>  On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
>  http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
> 
>  Watch this space for further details :)
> 
>  73,
> 
>  Wayne, N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Wes Stewart
Sorry, you took too long.  I retired the previous QRO amp, bought a KPA500 and 
ripped out the 240V service to the shack.


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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread M0VFC
But how much is the table bending under the weight? Switch-mode PSU, I hope?

Fingers crossed :-)

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Bill Johnson
Rick, but logic would indicate this is a 1500 watter.  Otherwise, the 500 would 
only be 000

73,
Bill
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX 
convention this weekend...

Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at
1500 watts.

Rick nhc


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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Rick WA6NHC

So now the standard questions are:

Matching KAT1500 (internal) tuner?   With the same 10:1 range as the 
KAT500?


Price(s)?

Availability?

Very cleverly done Wayne, kudos.  No I don't have to be concerned with 
mixing/matching amps to the K line.  Nice!


Rick nhc



On 4/20/2017 10:22 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?




On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:

Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at 1500 
watts.

Rick nhc



On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Bill Johnson
And note the different TX button than on the 500! At the top of the photo note 
that the last 5 parts of numbers visible are all 4 digit labels so my guess is 
that here comes the 1500 watt amp for viewing.  Note the feet are not bail 
type.  Either a working prototype or a new release.  

73,
Bill
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Burdick
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:23 PM
To: Rick WA6NHC 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX 
convention this weekend...

Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?



> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
> 
> Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at 1500 
> watts.
> 
> Rick nhc
>> 


>>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
>>> 
>>> Watch this space for further details :)
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Wayne, N6KR
>>> Eric, WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Bob

Nice cropping on the JPG

Cut off maybe a 1 and some output values.

While waiting I'll check my checking account balance.

73,
Bob
K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR


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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Rick WA6NHC
I could see that, it depends on the font (none of the exiting K line 
displays a 9) it lets the other numbers that are ALMOST shown 
(clever) make more sense.  If that is the case, it's showing full legal 
(US) limit output with room to spare.



Woohoo!  An Elecraft legal limit amp!  The KPA1500 lives again! I still 
hope for a matching (if not internal but doubtful) tuner with the same 
range as the KAT500, but on the other hand, if one is running THAT much 
energy, a resonant antenna is a little more critical need.


Rick


On 4/20/2017 10:46 AM, Ross Primrose wrote:

No, more like 1900...

73, Ross N4RP

On 4/20/2017 1:42 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
It can't be... the curl on the second digit, right most number, 
implies 1500.



On 4/20/2017 10:22 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?




On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:

Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line 
at 1500 watts.


Rick nhc


On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  
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http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Nr4c
Da&n!  They've done it again!

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> On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
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> http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Ross Primrose

No, more like 1900...

73, Ross N4RP

On 4/20/2017 1:42 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
It can't be... the curl on the second digit, right most number, 
implies 1500.



On 4/20/2017 10:22 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?




On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:

Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line 
at 1500 watts.


Rick nhc


On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  
wrote:


http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

Watch this space for further details :)

73,

Wayne, N6KR
Eric, WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Rick WA6NHC
Well YOU designed it Wayne...  :-) What I'm seeing is a questionable 
1700 as the second from the right, a vertical number on the right most 
(implies a 1), with an unclosed loop on the second digit on the right 
most that looks like the bottom half of a 5



Then add that the model number carefully only shows the xxx500, it 
appears to be a legal limit amp if pushed hard.


Rick nhc

(won't be in Visalia, packing to leave CA).


On 4/20/2017 10:22 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?




On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:

Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at 1500 
watts.

Rick nhc



On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Bill

In the news business they call this "planting the hook!"

In the land of ham radio, it is called a manufacturer listening to its 
customers.


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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Jim Finan
Maybe this will mean a bunch of good deals on used KPA500s...

Jim

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  Original Message  
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Sent: April 20, 2017 1:33 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX 
convention this weekend...


And the model number ends in 500.

Surely the next digit to the left is a "1".

73,

Bill - NA5DX

On 4/20/2017 12:22 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?
>
>
>
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
>>
>> Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at 1500 
>> watts.
>>
>> Rick nhc
>
>>>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Watch this space for further details :)
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Wayne, N6KR
>>>> Eric, WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Rick WA6NHC
It can't be... the curl on the second digit, right most number, implies 
1500.



On 4/20/2017 10:22 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?




On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:

Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at 1500 
watts.

Rick nhc



On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

Watch this space for further details :)

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Wayne, N6KR
Eric, WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Bill Breeden


And the model number ends in 500.

Surely the next digit to the left is a "1".

73,

Bill - NA5DX


On 4/20/2017 12:22 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?




On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:

Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at 1500 
watts.

Rick nhc



On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

Watch this space for further details :)

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Wayne, N6KR
Eric, WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Martin Sole

Internal ATU it seems as well



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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Martin Sole

It really is the most cleverly cropped picture :)



On 20/04/2017 20:22, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?




On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:

Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at 1500 
watts.

Rick nhc



On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

Watch this space for further details :)

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Richard Thorne

Looks like a built in tuner??

Rich - N5ZC

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Grant Youngman
We all knew this might be coming. The only question I have is whether the belt 
clip comes standard or is an option, and if it has wireless recharging for the 
battery ;)

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Wayne Burdick
Isn’t that second red LED from the left labeled “1700”?



> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
> 
> Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at 1500 
> watts.
> 
> Rick nhc
>> 


>>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
>>> 
>>> Watch this space for further details :)
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Wayne, N6KR
>>> Eric, WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Joe K2UF
 STAND BACK!!!   Here comes the e-flood. 

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Subject: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX
convention this weekend...

http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Rick WA6NHC
Look closer, it clearly shows an output of 1 KW with a max red line at 
1500 watts.


Rick nhc


On 4/20/2017 9:52 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:

How totally unfair! A picture is worth 0 words!

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On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg

Watch this space for further details :)

73,

Wayne, N6KR
Eric, WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Jeff Stai
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:

> How totally unfair! A picture is worth 0 words!
>

Hey now, everyone knows a word is worth a millipicture! 73 jeff wk6i



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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Vladimir Rytikov
you can see the number on the top right hand side conner :-)

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Peter Pauly  wrote:

> The power clearly goes up to 1500.
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Buddy Brannan 
> wrote:
>
> > How totally unfair! A picture is worth 0 words!
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
> > >
> > > Watch this space for further details :)
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> > >
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Peter Pauly
The power clearly goes up to 1500.

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:

> How totally unfair! A picture is worth 0 words!
>
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: 814-860-3194
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>
>
>
> > On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
> >
> > Watch this space for further details :)
> >
> > 73,
> >
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> > Eric, WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Another really good reason to come to the Visailia DX convention this weekend...

2017-04-20 Thread Buddy Brannan
How totally unfair! A picture is worth 0 words! 

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> On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> http://www.elecraft.com/images/visalia1.jpg
> 
> Watch this space for further details :)
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> 73,
> 
> Wayne, N6KR
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