Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware ...

[Alan Bloom]

This is nothing new.  Over 40 years ago I sold a Drake 4-line to a guy 
who saw my ad in QST.  The rig was in good operating condition, but he 
decided to send it in to Drake for a complete overhaul/tuneup, new 
tubes, etc. and subtracted the cost from what he sent me.  Basically he 
got a new radio for the cost of a used one.


That's actually the only bad experience I have had buying/selling ham 
gear.  Most hams are pretty honest.


Alan N1AL


On 2/28/2021 10:27 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

... The ham classified sites also have scammers
familiar with our hobby so you really have to be careful these days.




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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware ...

[Paul Van Dyke]

Yeah ... but the fact it is #36  with no fanfare would make me wondet

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 12:28 PM  wrote:

> This is a little scary because at first glance this appeared to be a good
> listing with a 100% seller. The ad even included serial numbers. The "buy
> it
> now" price was ridiculously low and the request that it be done outside of
> eBay is against their rules. Plus I doubt that they would accept PayPal for
> their buy it now option. The ham classified sites also have scammers
> familiar with our hobby so you really have to be careful these days.
>
> John KK9A
>
>
> Grant NQ5T wrote:
> The scam that just keeps on giving . it's already back up.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/133677987551
>
>
> Grant NQ5T
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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware ...

[john]

This is a little scary because at first glance this appeared to be a good
listing with a 100% seller. The ad even included serial numbers. The "buy it
now" price was ridiculously low and the request that it be done outside of
eBay is against their rules. Plus I doubt that they would accept PayPal for
their buy it now option. The ham classified sites also have scammers
familiar with our hobby so you really have to be careful these days.

John KK9A


Grant NQ5T wrote:
The scam that just keeps on giving . it's already back up.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/133677987551


Grant NQ5T

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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

[David Thompson via Elecraft]

GA all,

I’ve turned this outfit in so many times I can no longer count. I don’t know 
how these keep getting through fleaBay, but they do.

Be careful out there. I will generally not buy radio gear if a callsign is not 
present in the description and/or photographs. 

Good catch...

David Thompson, AG7TX
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> On Feb 27, 2021, at 14:13, Larry Shapiro  wrote:
> 
> I played this guy's game out to the end a few weeks ago when he had a K3S and 
> KPA-1500 for sale for $2000.
> 
> I offered the 2k,and was then sent a link that looked like it was Ebay,but 
> wasn't..
> As soon as I accused him of trying to rip me off,he went away.
> Larry k6ro
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Grant Youngman
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 10:38 AM
> To: Elecraft Refl
> Subject: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!
> 
> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

[Larry Shapiro]

I played this guy's game out to the end a few weeks ago when he had a K3S 
and KPA-1500 for sale for $2000.


I offered the 2k,and was then sent a link that looked like it was Ebay,but 
wasn't..

As soon as I accused him of trying to rip me off,he went away.
Larry k6ro


-Original Message- 
From: Grant Youngman

Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 10:38 AM
To: Elecraft Refl
Subject: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

[George Thornton]

Hackers are getting very sophisticated.  I have heard of situations where they 
have hacked into individual and business email accounts, sending messages to 
banks and other organizations to steal substantial sums of money.

You have to be very careful these days.

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To: 'W6IPA' ; 'Ron Manfredi' 
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

Already removed.

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Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 3:30 PM
To: Ron Manfredi 
Cc: Elecraft Refl ; Grant Youngman 

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

Thanks for explaining - this is definitely suspicious - I did not go as far as 
going through the pictures.

Thanks for the education

Jc/W6ipa


On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 11:06 AM Ron Manfredi  wrote:

> Well one of their photos has   text that tells you  they will not respond
> through the E-Bay mail system, and that any bids will be removed.   No
> matter what their feedback rating, those policies should be enough of a
> warning.   I am surprised that E-Bay hasn't banned them.
>
> Ron   WA2EIO
> On 2/27/2021 1:59 PM, W6IPA wrote:
>
> Is it a group private joke or is there actual facts that leads to 
> these statements ?
> I mean if the reports are line these posts - what can eBay do given 
> that the seller has 100% positive feedback ?
>
> Jc/W6ipa
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 10:50 AM Grant Youngman 
> wrote:
>
>> They posted a large number of items this morning in the Ham Radio 
>> category (and probably many other places).  I’m getting carpal tunnel 
>> filing “reports”, although it isn’t clear that eBay actually cares much.
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>>
>> > On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Ron Manfredi  wrote:
>> >
>> > Also here:
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-So
>> hne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL
>> >
>> > Seems they like high-end technical gear.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ron   WA2EIO
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> >> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
>> >> __
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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

[rocketnj]

Already removed.

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

Thanks for explaining - this is definitely suspicious - I did not go as far as 
going through the pictures.

Thanks for the education

Jc/W6ipa


On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 11:06 AM Ron Manfredi  wrote:

> Well one of their photos has   text that tells you  they will not respond
> through the E-Bay mail system, and that any bids will be removed.   No
> matter what their feedback rating, those policies should be enough of a
> warning.   I am surprised that E-Bay hasn't banned them.
>
> Ron   WA2EIO
> On 2/27/2021 1:59 PM, W6IPA wrote:
>
> Is it a group private joke or is there actual facts that leads to 
> these statements ?
> I mean if the reports are line these posts - what can eBay do given 
> that the seller has 100% positive feedback ?
>
> Jc/W6ipa
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 10:50 AM Grant Youngman 
> wrote:
>
>> They posted a large number of items this morning in the Ham Radio 
>> category (and probably many other places).  I’m getting carpal tunnel 
>> filing “reports”, although it isn’t clear that eBay actually cares much.
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>>
>> > On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Ron Manfredi  wrote:
>> >
>> > Also here:
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-So
>> hne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL
>> >
>> > Seems they like high-end technical gear.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ron   WA2EIO
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> >> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
>> >> __
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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

[W6IPA]

Thanks for explaining - this is definitely suspicious - I did not go as far
as going through the pictures.

Thanks for the education

Jc/W6ipa


On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 11:06 AM Ron Manfredi  wrote:

> Well one of their photos has   text that tells you  they will not respond
> through the E-Bay mail system, and that any bids will be removed.   No
> matter what their feedback rating, those policies should be enough of a
> warning.   I am surprised that E-Bay hasn't banned them.
>
> Ron   WA2EIO
> On 2/27/2021 1:59 PM, W6IPA wrote:
>
> Is it a group private joke or is there actual facts that leads to these
> statements ?
> I mean if the reports are line these posts - what can eBay do given that
> the seller has 100% positive feedback ?
>
> Jc/W6ipa
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 10:50 AM Grant Youngman 
> wrote:
>
>> They posted a large number of items this morning in the Ham Radio
>> category (and probably many other places).  I’m getting carpal tunnel
>> filing “reports”, although it isn’t clear that eBay actually cares much.
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>>
>> > On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Ron Manfredi  wrote:
>> >
>> > Also here:
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-Sohne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL
>> >
>> > Seems they like high-end technical gear.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ron   WA2EIO
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> >> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
>> >> __
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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

[Grant Youngman]

This is not a bad joke. You're pointing fingers in the wrong place.  As is 
typical with this scam (which has been ongoing for years now), the listed 
seller’s account has been hacked by a malevolent third party.  You can pretty 
well guarantee that the listing is fraudulent, and has not been posted by the 
seller shown with the ad.  Odds are he doesn’t even know it’s out there. It may 
be that seller’s account, but it isn’t that guy.

Grant NQ5T

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 2:06 PM, Ron Manfredi  wrote:
> 
> Well one of their photos has   text that tells you  they will not respond 
> through the E-Bay mail system, and that any bids will be removed.   No matter 
> what their feedback rating, those policies should be enough of a warning.   I 
> am surprised that E-Bay hasn't banned them.
> 
> Ron   WA2EIO
> 
> On 2/27/2021 1:59 PM, W6IPA wrote:
>> Is it a group private joke or is there actual facts that leads to these 
>> statements ?
>> I mean if the reports are line these posts - what can eBay do given that the 
>> seller has 100% positive feedback ?
>> 
>> Jc/W6ipa 
>> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

[Julia Tuttle]

That particular listing seems to have been removed between when I first
read your post and when I looked again just now.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 1:40 PM Grant Youngman  wrote:

> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

[David Bunte]

The link to the listing for the K3 etc... is no longer valid. Did Ebay
already take it down?

Dave - K9FN

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 1:40 PM Grant Youngman  wrote:

> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

[Ron Manfredi]

Well one of their photos has   text that tells you  they will not 
respond through the E-Bay mail system, and that any bids will be 
removed.   No matter what their feedback rating, those policies should 
be enough of a warning.   I am surprised that E-Bay hasn't banned them.


Ron   WA2EIO

On 2/27/2021 1:59 PM, W6IPA wrote:
Is it a group private joke or is there actual facts that leads to 
these statements ?
I mean if the reports are line these posts - what can eBay do given 
that the seller has 100% positive feedback ?


Jc/W6ipa

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 10:50 AM Grant Youngman > wrote:


They posted a large number of items this morning in the Ham Radio
category (and probably many other places).  I’m getting carpal
tunnel filing “reports”, although it isn’t clear that eBay
actually cares much.

Grant NQ5T

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Ron Manfredi mailto:wa2...@optonline.net>> wrote:
>
> Also here:
>
>

https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-Sohne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL
>
> Seems they like high-end technical gear.
>
>
> Ron   WA2EIO
>
>
>
> On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

[W6IPA]

Is it a group private joke or is there actual facts that leads to these
statements ?
I mean if the reports are line these posts - what can eBay do given that
the seller has 100% positive feedback ?

Jc/W6ipa

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 10:50 AM Grant Youngman 
wrote:

> They posted a large number of items this morning in the Ham Radio category
> (and probably many other places).  I’m getting carpal tunnel filing
> “reports”, although it isn’t clear that eBay actually cares much.
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
> > On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Ron Manfredi  wrote:
> >
> > Also here:
> >
> >
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-Sohne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL
> >
> > Seems they like high-end technical gear.
> >
> >
> > Ron   WA2EIO
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
> >> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
> >>
> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
> >> __
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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

[Grant Youngman]

They posted a large number of items this morning in the Ham Radio category (and 
probably many other places).  I’m getting carpal tunnel filing “reports”, 
although it isn’t clear that eBay actually cares much.

Grant NQ5T

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Ron Manfredi  wrote:
> 
> Also here:
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-Sohne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL
> 
> Seems they like high-end technical gear.
> 
> 
> Ron   WA2EIO
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>> 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
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Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

[Ron Manfredi]

Also here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-Sohne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL

Seems they like high-end technical gear.


Ron   WA2EIO



On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:

The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
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