Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
know this topic is closed but I would like to point out, I buy stuff from japan all the time for martial arts (kendo) It is cheaper for me in the USA to buy stuff from japan than it is for a Japanese person in japan (significantly so, sometimes as much as 50% cheaper) because I dont have to pay their equivalent of VAT. It is all relative. Matt W8ESE On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:57 AM, David Yarnes wrote: > Somebody is double counting (or triple counting) what is shown on the PDF. > Probably confusing since the description is in japanese. They are showing, > I presume, a model as a kit, and then as a pre-built unit, etc. It looks > like the basic 10 watt kit is around 300,000 yen, which is something like > $3,000, but that's before other add-ons. Anyway, a K3, fully loaded, is > nowhere near $21,000 for a japanese buyer! Nonetheless, it does add up to a > significantly higher cost than we pay here in the U.S. > > Dave W7AQK > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Hammond" > To: "Hector Padron" ; > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese > > >> Hector: >> >> According to several currency calculators: >> >> 2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD >> >> Whew. >> >> 73, >> >> Tom N0SS >> >> At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote: >>>WOW ! according that pdf >>>document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the >>>modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in >>>japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can >>>anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot >>> >>>AD4C >>> >>> >>>"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" >>> >>>--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi wrote: >>> >>> >>>From: Fumiaki Okushi >>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >>>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>>Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM >>> >>> >>>From: Hector Padron >>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >>>Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) >>> >>> > WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be >>> then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? >>> >>>You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at >>>http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf >>> >>>Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not >>>render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV >>> >>>__ >>>Elecraft mailing list >>>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>__ >>>Elecraft mailing list >>>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Somebody is double counting (or triple counting) what is shown on the PDF. Probably confusing since the description is in japanese. They are showing, I presume, a model as a kit, and then as a pre-built unit, etc. It looks like the basic 10 watt kit is around 300,000 yen, which is something like $3,000, but that's before other add-ons. Anyway, a K3, fully loaded, is nowhere near $21,000 for a japanese buyer! Nonetheless, it does add up to a significantly higher cost than we pay here in the U.S. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: "Tom Hammond" To: "Hector Padron" ; Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese > Hector: > > According to several currency calculators: > > 2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD > > Whew. > > 73, > > Tom N0SS > > At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote: >>WOW ! according that pdf >>document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the >>modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in >>japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can >>anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot >> >>AD4C >> >> >>"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" >> >>--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi wrote: >> >> >>From: Fumiaki Okushi >>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM >> >> >>From: Hector Padron >>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >>Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) >> >> > WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be >> then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? >> >>You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at >>http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf >> >>Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not >>render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. >> >>Regards, >>Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV >> >>__ >>Elecraft mailing list >>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> >> >> >>__ >>Elecraft mailing list >>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese [Ended]
Hi Hector - Its nowhere near this high. Someone added incorrectly. Again - Let's please end this thread. Anyone with questions on this, please feel free to email me. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Hector Padron wrote: > WOW !! You are telling me that a ham in japan who will like to purchase a > fully loaded K3 will have to pay almost twenty two grands? > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
WOW !! You are telling me that a ham in japan who will like to purchase a fully loaded K3 will have to pay almost twenty two grands? Unbelivable,with that amount I can buy me two IC-7800,poor guys,that is not good for them at all. It will be better for them to order it directly from Elecraft and pay all the transportation expenses I guess. AD4C "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Tom Hammond wrote: From: Tom Hammond Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: "Hector Padron" , elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 3:48 PM Hector: According to several currency calculators: 2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD Whew. 73, Tom N0SS At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote: >WOW ! according that pdf >document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the >modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in >japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can >anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot > >AD4C > > >"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" > >--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi wrote: > > >From: Fumiaki Okushi >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM > > >From: Hector Padron >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) > > > WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be > then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? > >You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at >http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf > >Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not >render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. > >Regards, >Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
I think someone has shifted a decimal point me thinks, I've heard of profit mark-up, but this during a resession beats the lotHi Ken..G0ORH Sent from my iPhone On 5 Jan 2010, at 15:38, Hector Padron wrote: > WOW ! according that pdf document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf > ) If we add all the modules and filters price for a fully loaded > K3,it will cost in japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand > two hundred)yens,can anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds > like a lot > > AD4C > > > "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" > > --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi wrote: > > > From: Fumiaki Okushi > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM > > > From: Hector Padron > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese > Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) > >> WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then >> over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? > > You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at > http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf > > Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not > render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. > > Regards, > Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese [END of thread]
Guys - Lets end this thread for now. This is something we are acutely aware of and are constantly working on. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft list moderator. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Need to learn to count there hector, that number seems a bit high based on my calculation more like 6-7k. 1 yen roughly equals $0.01. So not so much. I think you added multiple K3's in there, if you just added up all the colums. The price is even lower if you dont get factory built. Matt W8ESE 心正即刀正 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Tom Hammond wrote: > Hector: > > According to several currency calculators: > > 2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD > > Whew. > > 73, > > Tom N0SS > > At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote: >>WOW ! according that pdf >>document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the >>modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in >>japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can >>anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot >> >>AD4C >> >> >>"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" >> >>--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi wrote: >> >> >>From: Fumiaki Okushi >>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM >> >> >>From: Hector Padron >>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >>Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) >> >> > WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be >> then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? >> >>You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at >>http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf >> >>Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not >>render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. >> >>Regards, >>Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV >> >>__ >>Elecraft mailing list >>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> >> >> >>__ >>Elecraft mailing list >>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Hector: According to several currency calculators: 2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD Whew. 73, Tom N0SS At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote: >WOW ! according that pdf >document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the >modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in >japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can >anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot > >AD4C > > >"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" > >--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi wrote: > > >From: Fumiaki Okushi >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM > > >From: Hector Padron >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) > > > WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be > then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? > >You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at >http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf > >Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not >render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. > >Regards, >Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
WOW ! according that pdf document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot AD4C "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) > WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 > grands in japan with that dealer EDC? You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
To me the argument that "we" have to buy our Japanese rigs from an importer too, isn't a very good one. Everyone in the world has to buy there Japanese rigs from a importer so everybody has to pay more. But with Elecraft equipment, only the Japanese have buy there stuff from a importer whilst the rest of the world can buy directly from Elecraft and therefore save some money. 73, Maarten __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Hum ! Did Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood are sending their products straight on line and provide such attention to their customers ? One more reason to be confident with Elecraft, a proud US company ! Great part of the succes is quality of service and Elecraft is on the way to carve out a crupper to our usual providers. They waked up my Ham spirit after too many decades using most of the "limousine" rigs available on the market. It's time to move to "Nascar" rigs and challenge for the "piston cup ". Bst 73's & Happy New Year Philippe A65BI (F5LTB), ex-9Q1TB for the last exotic one. K3#3616 By Hams, for Hams, what else ! >>> "Dick Williams" 04-01-2010 23:08 >>> Has anybody tried to buy a Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood direct from Japan without going thru their dealers in the states? -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:49 AM To: Tom Meier Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Tom, If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, but that is a different statement. 73, Don W3FPR Tom Meier wrote: > Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a > very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a > business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both > sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the > exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that > they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you > without access to any tech support. > > Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts > straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this > country also. But thought I'd pass this along. > > 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Fumiaki Okushi wrote: > > Have you actually done price comparison? > Yaesu, Kenwood, ICOM products are only slightly more expensive in the US > market. > With respect to Canon and Nikon (and I believe you are referring to DSLR), > they are usually cheaper in the US market (because of fierce competition). > For example, Nikon D300S (body only). > You can get it in Tokyo from Yodobashi Camera (one of the major camera > stores in Japan) for 177000 yen, > which at today's exchange rate is $1900. > You can find the same D300S at Wolf Camera (US camera store chain) for > $1700. > There's a lot of misinformation flowing here...Fumi-san is correct. I traveled to Japan frequently in the 70s and 80s and bought several cameras and even a (Trio nee Kenwood) TS-820S in local markets there. The savings were substantial then but, beginning in the mid-1980s, it became cheaper to buy equipment from NYC distributors, not to mention potential warranty issues...ditto for Hong Kong prices. BTW the D300S body is available for $1500 from B&H Photo shipped and even $1389 from a less trustworthy distributor. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Disgrunteled-Japanese-tp4250692p4252613.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Guys, it's obvious what's going on here: Have you put any consideration into the fact that when Japan imports something to the US we pay almost NO import taxes, yet when something American is sent to Japan you guys stick us with almost a 40% import tax (not including the cost to ship things over seas)... Why is it that when I send something to China in a 1 pound box it cost me $40 US. Yet when I order my cell phone parts from China, and they send the SAME 1 pound box direct it cost them only $4.50... Nothing new there either. It's been obvious to me that America is the last country left to alow almost anything in to our country free of import/export taxes and terrifs. And you wonder why we have lower prices here?? Really? Sorry you have to pay more there in Japan, but you'll probably need to talk to your government about that... Not Elecraft.. > Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:09:32 -0800 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > From: fumi...@okushi.com > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese > > I would personally prefer to buy from a local distributor, for the exact > reason you mention. > So I'm willing to pay a little extra for that convenience. > The question is how much will I (or more generally, one) be willing to pay > for the additional convenience. > > With regards to ham radio equipment, bands could be different from one > country to another (and certainly the case between US and JA), > so there's another reason you might want to deal locally. > > Regards, > Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV > > From: Duncan Carter > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese > Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:51:19 -0700 > > > Another consideration is the degree of risk in acting as your own > > import/export agent. Almost all vendors sell on terms where the buyer > > is the owner of the equipment once it leave the seller's facility. If > > there's a problem during transit, it becomes the buyer's problem. > > Insurance can help but it's not a cure-all; avoidance of claims payment > > is a common practice. In many countries, getting equipment through > > customs can be a real "adventure". Most countries are also familiar > > with the many ruses for avoiding import duties; most have a high degree > > of regulation of payment for just this reason. Attempting to avoid such > > duties can produce a high risk of having the equipment confiscated. > > > > Dunc, W5DC > > > > Dick Williams wrote: > >> Has anybody tried to buy a Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood direct from Japan without > >> going thru their dealers in the states? > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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From: Hector Padron Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) > WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 > grands in japan with that dealer EDC? You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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From: Bob Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:51:51 -0500 > Should I be mad at Canon or Nikon?I don't think so.So the JA's > don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot. Have you actually done price comparison? Yaesu, Kenwood, ICOM products are only slightly more expensive in the US market. With respect to Canon and Nikon (and I believe you are referring to DSLR), they are usually cheaper in the US market (because of fierce competition). For example, Nikon D300S (body only). You can get it in Tokyo from Yodobashi Camera (one of the major camera stores in Japan) for 177000 yen, which at today's exchange rate is $1900. You can find the same D300S at Wolf Camera (US camera store chain) for $1700. BTW, just in case I'm misunderstood, I think local distributors are okay, and some markups are okay (for the added convenience). I believe potential JA customers will agree on this. It's only when the markup is excessive, it becomes an issue.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
I would personally prefer to buy from a local distributor, for the exact reason you mention. So I'm willing to pay a little extra for that convenience. The question is how much will I (or more generally, one) be willing to pay for the additional convenience. With regards to ham radio equipment, bands could be different from one country to another (and certainly the case between US and JA), so there's another reason you might want to deal locally. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV From: Duncan Carter Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:51:19 -0700 > Another consideration is the degree of risk in acting as your own > import/export agent. Almost all vendors sell on terms where the buyer > is the owner of the equipment once it leave the seller's facility. If > there's a problem during transit, it becomes the buyer's problem. > Insurance can help but it's not a cure-all; avoidance of claims payment > is a common practice. In many countries, getting equipment through > customs can be a real "adventure". Most countries are also familiar > with the many ruses for avoiding import duties; most have a high degree > of regulation of payment for just this reason. Attempting to avoid such > duties can produce a high risk of having the equipment confiscated. > > Dunc, W5DC > > Dick Williams wrote: >> Has anybody tried to buy a Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood direct from Japan without >> going thru their dealers in the states? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
A couple of thoughts:
1) "Distributor jacking up the price" . . .
Heathkit did the same thing forty years ago. You had your choice of
buying direct from the factory at one price (lower), or with the
convenience of buying from a local (more or less) distributor at another
price (higher). There is not a thing wrong with this kind of
merchandising or its resultant mark-up in price. The distributor has to
stock parts, devote inventory space, hire staff, do billings, handle
returns, etc. That's why "factory direct" (regardless of the product)
is usually cheaper than through stores (although with some manufacturers
it's often just a marketing ploy resulting in little if any discount in
price).
2) "Exclusive Dealerships" . . .
When Yaesu first started importing to the United States all sales were
exclusively handled through Spectronics USA ("East" or "West"). There
was never an option of buying factory-direct from Japan. Those FT-101s
we so eagerly bought up (and in so doing put our American companies out
of business) always cost more in the US than they did in Japan. To
those of our JA brothers who are complaining about Elecraft doing the
same thing, I merely remind them that "what goes around comes around."
It's their turn now.
73,
Kent K9ZTV
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Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
That is just the same as those here in the states buying or importing a "gray market" camera or other piece of electronics that the US dealers or distributors will not support. Should I be mad at Canon or Nikon?I don't think so.So the JA's don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot. 73, Bob K2TK Tom Meier wrote: > Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a > very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a > business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both > sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the > exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that > they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you > without access to any tech support. > > Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts > straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this > country also. But thought I'd pass this along. > > 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Another consideration is the degree of risk in acting as your own import/export agent. Almost all vendors sell on terms where the buyer is the owner of the equipment once it leave the seller's facility. If there's a problem during transit, it becomes the buyer's problem. Insurance can help but it's not a cure-all; avoidance of claims payment is a common practice. In many countries, getting equipment through customs can be a real "adventure". Most countries are also familiar with the many ruses for avoiding import duties; most have a high degree of regulation of payment for just this reason. Attempting to avoid such duties can produce a high risk of having the equipment confiscated. Dunc, W5DC Dick Williams wrote: > Has anybody tried to buy a Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood direct from Japan without > going thru their dealers in the states? > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:49 AM > To: Tom Meier > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese > > Tom, > > If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from > Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. > > He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, > but that is a different statement. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Tom Meier wrote: > >> Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting >> > a > >> very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a >> business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for >> > both > >> sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the >> exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true >> > that > >> they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you >> without access to any tech support. >> >> Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his >> > facts > >> straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this >> country also. But thought I'd pass this along. >> >> 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) >> >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4743 (20100104) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4743 (20100104) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? AD4C "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 5:45 PM Hi everyone, this is my first post. I also had a Japanese ham (in Japan) tell me the same story. I found on the order page on the Elecraft site the following line: "Note: All Japan orders (except expatriate orders) must be placed through our distributor: EDC" This sounds to me like if you're Japanese living in Japan and ordering from Japan, you have to order through EDC. If you go to the EDC site today, the price for the K3/10 kit is listed as 268600 yen, which at today's exchange rate is approx $2900. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV Don Wilhelm wrote: > Tom, > > If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from > Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. > > He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, > but that is a different statement. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Tom Meier wrote: >> Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a >> very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a >> business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both >> sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the >> exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that >> they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you >> without access to any tech support. >> >> Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts >> straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this >> country also. But thought I'd pass this along. >> >> 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Has anybody tried to buy a Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood direct from Japan without going thru their dealers in the states? -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:49 AM To: Tom Meier Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Tom, If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, but that is a different statement. 73, Don W3FPR Tom Meier wrote: > Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a > very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a > business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both > sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the > exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that > they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you > without access to any tech support. > > Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts > straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this > country also. But thought I'd pass this along. > > 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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From: Duncan Carter Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:59:57 -0700 > Unless the situation has changed in Japan, it's customary or perhaps > required to use a import/export company/agent for sales in Japan. > Some countries make it extremely difficult for individuals to import > or export. Although my company doesn't do any business in Japan, we > do business in other countries where this situation applies. Generally speaking, import of goods by individuals is very popular in Japan. Having said that, I don't know if there's any special requirements for radio equipments.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Sounds like Tokyo Hy-Power in reverse. I now get to pay dealer markup and sales tax so my L4-B will stay in service. --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Tom Meier wrote: From: Tom Meier Subject: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:30 AM Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you without access to any tech support. Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this country also. But thought I'd pass this along. 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Unless the situation has changed in Japan, it's customary or perhaps required to use a import/export company/agent for sales in Japan. Some countries make it extremely difficult for individuals to import or export. Although my company doesn't do any business in Japan, we do business in other countries where this situation applies. Dunc, W5DC Fumiaki Okushi wrote: > Hi everyone, this is my first post. > > I also had a Japanese ham (in Japan) tell me the same story. > I found on the order page on the Elecraft site the following line: > > "Note: All Japan orders (except expatriate orders) must be placed through > our distributor: EDC" > > This sounds to me like if you're Japanese living in Japan and ordering from > Japan, you have to order through EDC. > > If you go to the EDC site today, the price for the K3/10 kit is listed as > 268600 yen, > which at today's exchange rate is approx $2900. > > Regards, > Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV > > > Don Wilhelm wrote: > >> Tom, >> >> If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from >> Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. >> >> He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, >> but that is a different statement. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> Tom Meier wrote: >> >>> Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a >>> very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a >>> business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both >>> sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the >>> exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that >>> they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you >>> without access to any tech support. >>> >>> Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts >>> straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this >>> country also. But thought I'd pass this along. >>> >>> 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) >>> >>> >>> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Hi everyone, this is my first post. I also had a Japanese ham (in Japan) tell me the same story. I found on the order page on the Elecraft site the following line: "Note: All Japan orders (except expatriate orders) must be placed through our distributor: EDC" This sounds to me like if you're Japanese living in Japan and ordering from Japan, you have to order through EDC. If you go to the EDC site today, the price for the K3/10 kit is listed as 268600 yen, which at today's exchange rate is approx $2900. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV Don Wilhelm wrote: > Tom, > > If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from > Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. > > He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, > but that is a different statement. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Tom Meier wrote: >> Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a >> very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a >> business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both >> sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the >> exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that >> they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you >> without access to any tech support. >> >> Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts >> straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this >> country also. But thought I'd pass this along. >> >> 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Tom, If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, but that is a different statement. 73, Don W3FPR Tom Meier wrote: > Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a > very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a > business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both > sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the > exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that > they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you > without access to any tech support. > > Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts > straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this > country also. But thought I'd pass this along. > > 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
No Tech support? When did this happen? :) 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455 http://www.amateurradiotraining.org 2010/1/4 Tom Meier > Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting > a > very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a > business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for > both > sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the > exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true > that > they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you > without access to any tech support. > > Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts > straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this > country also. But thought I'd pass this along. > > 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
