Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 219, Issue 2

2022-07-02 Thread jerry

On 2022-07-02 04:02, Dave B via Elecraft wrote:

Hi.

At the very least, see if the embedded Linux it uses (what version of
what distro, anyone know?
*** If there is command line access, then "uname -a" can sometimes give 
a hint.


 - jerry, KF6VB



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 219, Issue 2

2022-07-02 Thread Dave B via Elecraft

Hi.

At the very least, see if the embedded Linux it uses (what version of 
what distro, anyone know?  I've not seen anything re that mentioned...) 
has a firewall facility you can invoke and setup. Even if it is only 
possible from the command line.   They can have full network 
connectivity, but still be invisible to random port pokers, plus rules 
can be setup for what you "Want" to do, and still protect against what 
you don't want to happen.  (Remote file access etc.)


If you setup for remote access via SSH, then read up how to use 
Certificates for authentication, and not rely on passphrases.



A semi instant solution, would be to "hide" the K4 behind a reconfigured 
wired router.  That way, it can reach out for any authorised updates, 
but nothing can "see" it from the rest of your LAN.  (Unless you "need" 
it, in which case, that extra router can be configured to do so.  
Effectively much like a hardware firewall. But make sure that routers 
own OS is all up to date too!)


You could put other Shack connected stuff on the same protected LAN as 
well, if needed.   Else, see if your existing router can create and 
manage an isolated VLAN for the K4.  Preferably on a separate physical 
cable run.


Linux as a whole is less troublesome than "some other" OS re malware, 
but it does exist, also so do vulnerabilities.  It is just that most 
Linux users would spot a behavioural change and go searching for stuff 
to kill off.
(If you think Windows updates too often, you aint' seen nothing yet, 
security updates are issued as needed, not waiting for one batch a 
month!  But with most Linux's, updating, even a kernel update is only a 
few minutes of your time, not hours like that "other" OS)


Because of that, it is less targeted by the usual bad guys, but sadly 
that is beginning to change. :-(  Thankfully though, Linux generally has 
the tools to do manage that and protect itself without needing to 
download other stuff.  But it does need time and learning how to do so.


If you are really concerned, do not connect your K4 to your LAN, except 
when needed (official updates etc.)   Or if you "Need to" (Remote Shack 
working etc) then plan it, and install the needed protective devices 
(dedicated firewall router for example) to hide it behind.


The first thing to find out, is just which embedded Linux is used in the 
K4, and what protective tools are provided as standard.  If there is not 
even a firewall to use, I'd be asking serious questions of Elecraft as 
to why such was left out.


73.

Dave G0WBX(G8KBV)   I gave up with Windoze for my own computing needs 
over 7 years ago now.  Not regretted it one bit.







On 01/07/2022 23:27, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 13:39:51 -0300
From: gordon young
To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K4 Ethernet Vulnerability
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Ladies and gentlemen,

Perhaps this is old news to some however I thought it worth asking before my 
radio arrives.  Given the K4 now has direct Ethernet connectivity, how 
vulnerable is it to malware, bugs, worms and bad internet stuff in general?

What is recommended for the radio itself besides protecting the associated 
computer?  For example, should a VPN be used or is the risk considered low 
enough to disregard?

Thanks in advance

Gord
VE1GVY
K4 wannabee


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