Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK)

2008-11-24 Thread David Honey
I think it also depends on the point of entry and where the customs 
centre is located.
Parcelforce International have a big clearing centre where all 
internal packages arrive.
Unfortunately, as I was told by a customs officer there, their 
computer system does not
accept the full TARIC code. So the officer enters the first N digits. 
In some cases, the
rate of duty varies between the exact codes of that group, so they 
charge the highest

duty of the group.

This is not a problem that suppliers and shippers can solve. It's 
systemic in the poor way in
which the IT support that supports customs within Parcelforce 
International works. So even
though Elecraft uses the correct code and this is demonstrably 
correct, you still get charged.


This happened to me when I ordered the KPA100 option. It took 2 
months to get my money
back. If you use a courier such as UPS, DHL etc, their customs 
clearance processes are

usually better.

So I'm afraid there is little that you can do about this other than 
pursue wrongful
charges vigorously to get your money back. I wrote a letter of 
complaint, but other
than letting off steam, I doubt it had any real effect. Perhaps if 
everyone who suffered
the same fate did likewise, someone in customs in Parcelforce might 
take notice.

Until then, remember the old motto: Nils carborundum illegitemae.

vy 73 de David M0DHO

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Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK)

2008-11-24 Thread Toby Deinhardt

Hallo,

I think it also depends on the point of entry and where the customs 
centre is located.


Up to now my experience has been, if it has been sent via regular mail 
(USPS, Deutsche Post, DHL), then customs is often expletive deleted.


Via UPS, til now, I haven't had any problems.

But of course my personal sample size is very small...


vy 73 de toby
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Re: Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK)

2008-11-24 Thread d.cutter
I agree with all you say, except spelling of Parcel Force...
David
G3UNA

 
 From: David Honey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 11:45:26 GMT
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK)
 
 I think it also depends on the point of entry and where the customs 
 centre is located.
 Parcelforce International have a big clearing centre where all 
 internal packages arrive.
 Unfortunately, as I was told by a customs officer there, their 
 computer system does not
 accept the full TARIC code. So the officer enters the first N digits. 
 In some cases, the
 rate of duty varies between the exact codes of that group, so they 
 charge the highest
 duty of the group.
 
 This is not a problem that suppliers and shippers can solve. It's 
 systemic in the poor way in
 which the IT support that supports customs within Parcelforce 
 International works. So even
 though Elecraft uses the correct code and this is demonstrably 
 correct, you still get charged.
 
 This happened to me when I ordered the KPA100 option. It took 2 
 months to get my money
 back. If you use a courier such as UPS, DHL etc, their customs 
 clearance processes are
 usually better.
 
 So I'm afraid there is little that you can do about this other than 
 pursue wrongful
 charges vigorously to get your money back. I wrote a letter of 
 complaint, but other
 than letting off steam, I doubt it had any real effect. Perhaps if 
 everyone who suffered
 the same fate did likewise, someone in customs in Parcelforce might 
 take notice.
 Until then, remember the old motto: Nils carborundum illegitemae.
 
 vy 73 de David M0DHO
 
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RE: Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK)

2008-11-24 Thread gd0tep
English was never my best subject, but... I think he had it right first time
round... it's their name, rather than two words...

As per their web site: C Copyright Parcelforce Worldwide 2008. All Rights
Reserved 
(that is unless the royal mail got it wrong as well?)

73
Andy
http://www.gd0tep.com

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I agree with all you say, except spelling of Parcel Force...
David
G3UNA

 
 From: David Honey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 11:45:26 GMT
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK)
 
 I think it also depends on the point of entry and where the customs 
 centre is located.
 Parcelforce International have a big clearing centre where all 
 internal packages arrive.
 Unfortunately, as I was told by a customs officer there, their 
 computer system does not
 accept the full TARIC code. So the officer enters the first N digits. 
 In some cases, the
 rate of duty varies between the exact codes of that group, so they 
 charge the highest
 duty of the group.
 
 This is not a problem that suppliers and shippers can solve. It's 
 systemic in the poor way in
 which the IT support that supports customs within Parcelforce 
 International works. So even
 though Elecraft uses the correct code and this is demonstrably 
 correct, you still get charged.
 
 This happened to me when I ordered the KPA100 option. It took 2 
 months to get my money
 back. If you use a courier such as UPS, DHL etc, their customs 
 clearance processes are
 usually better.
 
 So I'm afraid there is little that you can do about this other than 
 pursue wrongful
 charges vigorously to get your money back. I wrote a letter of 
 complaint, but other
 than letting off steam, I doubt it had any real effect. Perhaps if 
 everyone who suffered
 the same fate did likewise, someone in customs in Parcelforce might 
 take notice.
 Until then, remember the old motto: Nils carborundum illegitemae.
 
 vy 73 de David M0DHO
 
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RE: Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK)

2008-11-24 Thread Peter Howson
And I thought it was -- Parcel Farce

73
Peter
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