Re: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m
Antenna was an 80 meter dipole at 50' with 100' of 450 ohm line sloping north. I short the feeder and feed it as a Marconi against a 6 radial ground system, radials being 150' long. I use a simple "L" section matching network. Series "L" and shunt "C" on antenna side of the network. I too use the narrow bandwidth at 200 Hz. and input attenuator on. (With K1 radio) Wish I could have had the endurance and un-interrupted time to operate longer! I had trouble working W1 stations from here. 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: "Dave Sublette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sandy W5TVW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Elecraft" Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m | Sandy, | | What antenna did you use on 160? It must have beeen pretty good to have | worked that many stations. I ran 100W(TenTec Omni VI+) for the contest | and worked 397 Qs and 80 multipliers, many of which were DX. But my | antenna is a full quarterwave elevated groundplane. I have found that | on the contest nights I have to screw the filtering down to 250 hz and | put a 20 db pad in the front end. In addition, I turn off the AGC and | back the RF gain down. It was actually quite pleasant to work the | contest in this way. I have no special receiving antennasjust use | the vertical on TX and RX. | | 73, | | Dave, K4TO | | Sandy W5TVW wrote: | > That's what I did is make a 160/80 meter board. Had a ton of fun | > over the weekend on 160. Managed to work almost 150 QSO's with only | > 8 hours operating time. Used the K1 and 5 watts out. Worked 38 USA/Canada | > sections and two DX QSO's. Heard lots of DX but really hammering QRM | > for this power level! | > Too bad the band isn't populated most nights! This demonstrates that 160 | > is VERY viable band that is very neglected the rest of the year! | > | > 73, | > Sandy W5TVW | > - Original Message - | > From: "Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > To: "SteveG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; | > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:08 AM | > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m | > | > | > | Steve, | > | | > | Putting a K1 on 160 can be done easily (see instructions below for one | > | method). Not too much effort. | > | The KAT1 will tune OK, but the range will not be as great as on higher | > | bands. | > | In my opinion, it is a pain to have 2 40 meter boards and keep track of | > | which is what. Note that the K1 will remember 6 bands, so a 4 band board | > | for 40 and up plus a 2 band board for 160 and 80 makes sense to me. | > | | > | ADDING 160 meters to a K1: | > | | > | > Not quite a full "Elecraft" 160m & 80m board, but you can do it this way - | > | > order a 2 band board for 80m and any other band, PLUS, order the following | > | > components (Elecraft has them all except the crystal) - here are the | > | > instructions for how I did it: -- | > | > maybe you can make a deal with someone at Elecraft to ship a ''1 band | > | board | > | > and the other needed parts" | > | > | > | > I ordered the following from Elecraft: | > | > | > | > Capacitors: | > | > 2 - E530002 1500 pf capacitor | > | > 3 - E530003 2700 pf capacitor | > | > 2 - E530005 1200 pf capacitor | > | > 2 - E530035 1800 pf capacitor | > | > 2 - E530052 560 pf capacitor | > | > 2 - E530053 680 pf capacitor | > | > 1 - E53005812 pf capacitor | > | > | > | > Inductors: | > | > 1 - E690007 33 uh inductor | > | > 2 - E690001 4.7 uh variable inductor (wide tuning slot) | > | > | > | > Toroid cores: | > | > 2 - E680001 T44-1 or T50-1 toroid cores (blue color) | > | > | > | > I also ordered a 9.800 mHz crystal (HC-49 case 20 pf load capacitance) | > | from | > | > International Crystal Manufacturing www.icmfg.com. | > | > | > | > If you are planning to use the K1 ATU with this board, you should also | > | order | > | > the P1 (3 pin) and P2 (10 pin - 5 x 2) headers from Elecraft. | > | > | > | > The parts from Elecraft (without the headers) were less than $15 and the | > | > crystal was priced at $17.95 - not an unreasonable price IMHO. | > | > | > | > I assembled the 2 band board with the 80 meter components in the band 2 | > | > locations as indicated in the instructions - except for L5 and L6 were | > | left | > | > empty at this time. | > | > | > | > Next, the low- pass toroids were wound with 21 turns (20 inches of wire) | > | on | > | > the T50-1 (blue) cores, and soldered into the L9 and L10 positions. | > | > | > | &
RE: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m
Don wrote: >Unless it was expanded recently, the K1 can be set to any of the 9 HF bands, >but it only has memory slots for 6 of them - one can choose any 6 of the 9 >available bands. Thanks. I've made the "one calibration correction per each of nine bands" statement many times before and never had Wayne or Eric counter it with a "six-band limit." I'm confused on how this six-band limit works. Which one of the six previously calibrated bands will lose its correction when a seventh band cal is performed? May the six "slots" be filled with six different bands on three two-band boards as well as with one four-band board plus one two-band board? This interesting information does *not* exist, AFAIK, in any documents made available to the K1 purchaser. This limit, and how it acts, should be clearly stated in the K1 manual. More and more K1 owners are developing filter boards for bands other than the six officially supported bands, so it is entirely possible that there may now be K1 owners who have multiple filter boards covering more six bands. 73, Mike / KK5F ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m
Mike, Unless it was expanded recently, the K1 can be set to any of the 9 HF bands, but it only has memory slots for 6 of them - one can choose any 6 of the 9 available bands. You are correct that only one correction factor for any one band is available. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > Don wrote: > > > Note that the K1 will remember 6 bands... > > It is my understanding that the K1 will store *one* display > calibration correction for each of the HF bands that can be > assigned to a K1 band. Since each K1 band can be assigned to any > of the nine HF bands, I believe that the K1 can "remember" nine > different band LCD corrections. > > The correction is stored in the front panel MPU system, and not > on a filter board. This causes a minor problem if two or more > filter boards are used in a K1 that duplicate the same band on > each (like a 80/40m two-band board and a 40/30/20/15m four-band > board). Only one correction for 40m can be stored, so one of the > filter boards will result in a slightly inaccurate LCD display > unless the 40m hetrodyne crystals on both filter boards oscillate > within about 100 Hz of each other. > > 73, > Mike / KK5F ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m
Don wrote: > Note that the K1 will remember 6 bands... It is my understanding that the K1 will store *one* display calibration correction for each of the HF bands that can be assigned to a K1 band. Since each K1 band can be assigned to any of the nine HF bands, I believe that the K1 can "remember" nine different band LCD corrections. The correction is stored in the front panel MPU system, and not on a filter board. This causes a minor problem if two or more filter boards are used in a K1 that duplicate the same band on each (like a 80/40m two-band board and a 40/30/20/15m four-band board). Only one correction for 40m can be stored, so one of the filter boards will result in a slightly inaccurate LCD display unless the 40m hetrodyne crystals on both filter boards oscillate within about 100 Hz of each other. 73, Mike / KK5F ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m
Sandy, What antenna did you use on 160? It must have beeen pretty good to have worked that many stations. I ran 100W(TenTec Omni VI+) for the contest and worked 397 Qs and 80 multipliers, many of which were DX. But my antenna is a full quarterwave elevated groundplane. I have found that on the contest nights I have to screw the filtering down to 250 hz and put a 20 db pad in the front end. In addition, I turn off the AGC and back the RF gain down. It was actually quite pleasant to work the contest in this way. I have no special receiving antennasjust use the vertical on TX and RX. 73, Dave, K4TO Sandy W5TVW wrote: That's what I did is make a 160/80 meter board. Had a ton of fun over the weekend on 160. Managed to work almost 150 QSO's with only 8 hours operating time. Used the K1 and 5 watts out. Worked 38 USA/Canada sections and two DX QSO's. Heard lots of DX but really hammering QRM for this power level! Too bad the band isn't populated most nights! This demonstrates that 160 is VERY viable band that is very neglected the rest of the year! 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: "Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "SteveG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:08 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m | Steve, | | Putting a K1 on 160 can be done easily (see instructions below for one | method). Not too much effort. | The KAT1 will tune OK, but the range will not be as great as on higher | bands. | In my opinion, it is a pain to have 2 40 meter boards and keep track of | which is what. Note that the K1 will remember 6 bands, so a 4 band board | for 40 and up plus a 2 band board for 160 and 80 makes sense to me. | | ADDING 160 meters to a K1: | | > Not quite a full "Elecraft" 160m & 80m board, but you can do it this way - | > order a 2 band board for 80m and any other band, PLUS, order the following | > components (Elecraft has them all except the crystal) - here are the | > instructions for how I did it: -- | > maybe you can make a deal with someone at Elecraft to ship a ''1 band | board | > and the other needed parts" | > | > I ordered the following from Elecraft: | > | > Capacitors: | > 2 - E530002 1500 pf capacitor | > 3 - E530003 2700 pf capacitor | > 2 - E530005 1200 pf capacitor | > 2 - E530035 1800 pf capacitor | > 2 - E530052 560 pf capacitor | > 2 - E530053 680 pf capacitor | > 1 - E53005812 pf capacitor | > | > Inductors: | > 1 - E690007 33 uh inductor | > 2 - E690001 4.7 uh variable inductor (wide tuning slot) | > | > Toroid cores: | > 2 - E680001 T44-1 or T50-1 toroid cores (blue color) | > | > I also ordered a 9.800 mHz crystal (HC-49 case 20 pf load capacitance) | from | > International Crystal Manufacturing www.icmfg.com. | > | > If you are planning to use the K1 ATU with this board, you should also | order | > the P1 (3 pin) and P2 (10 pin - 5 x 2) headers from Elecraft. | > | > The parts from Elecraft (without the headers) were less than $15 and the | > crystal was priced at $17.95 - not an unreasonable price IMHO. | > | > I assembled the 2 band board with the 80 meter components in the band 2 | > locations as indicated in the instructions - except for L5 and L6 were | left | > empty at this time. | > | > Next, the low- pass toroids were wound with 21 turns (20 inches of wire) | on | > the T50-1 (blue) cores, and soldered into the L9 and L10 positions. | > | > The 4.7 uH variable inductors were soldered in the positions for L5 and | L6. | > On the bottom of the board, 1200 pf capacitors were soldered across L5 and | > L6 (the outer pins on the side of the can with 3 pins). | > | > The 33 uH inductor goes into the position marked for C13. Form the leads | > under the inductor body so that the leads fit into the holes - my inductor | > is parallel with the board and tucked between the bandpass filter cans. | > | > Mount the 9.8 mHz crystal at the X1 position and solder the grounding wire | > to the side of the can (or top if you prefer). | > | > The remaining capacitors are fitted into the following positions: | > C1 & C5 - 680 pf | > C2 & C4 - 2700 pf | > C3 - 12 pf | > | > C11 & C15 - 1800 pf | > C12 & C14 - 560 pf | > C21 & C23 - 1500 pf | > C22- 2700 pf | > | > You should now have all the holes filled, and can proceed to align the 2 | > band board following the instructions in the K1 manual. Mine came up with | > no trouble at all. | | 73, | Don W3FPR | | > -Original Message- | > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of SteveG | > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:11 AM | > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net | > Subject: [Elecraft] K1 16
Re: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m
That's what I did is make a 160/80 meter board. Had a ton of fun over the weekend on 160. Managed to work almost 150 QSO's with only 8 hours operating time. Used the K1 and 5 watts out. Worked 38 USA/Canada sections and two DX QSO's. Heard lots of DX but really hammering QRM for this power level! Too bad the band isn't populated most nights! This demonstrates that 160 is VERY viable band that is very neglected the rest of the year! 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: "Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "SteveG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:08 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m | Steve, | | Putting a K1 on 160 can be done easily (see instructions below for one | method). Not too much effort. | The KAT1 will tune OK, but the range will not be as great as on higher | bands. | In my opinion, it is a pain to have 2 40 meter boards and keep track of | which is what. Note that the K1 will remember 6 bands, so a 4 band board | for 40 and up plus a 2 band board for 160 and 80 makes sense to me. | | ADDING 160 meters to a K1: | | > Not quite a full "Elecraft" 160m & 80m board, but you can do it this way - | > order a 2 band board for 80m and any other band, PLUS, order the following | > components (Elecraft has them all except the crystal) - here are the | > instructions for how I did it: -- | > maybe you can make a deal with someone at Elecraft to ship a ''1 band | board | > and the other needed parts" | > | > I ordered the following from Elecraft: | > | > Capacitors: | > 2 - E530002 1500 pf capacitor | > 3 - E530003 2700 pf capacitor | > 2 - E530005 1200 pf capacitor | > 2 - E530035 1800 pf capacitor | > 2 - E530052 560 pf capacitor | > 2 - E530053 680 pf capacitor | > 1 - E53005812 pf capacitor | > | > Inductors: | > 1 - E690007 33 uh inductor | > 2 - E690001 4.7 uh variable inductor (wide tuning slot) | > | > Toroid cores: | > 2 - E680001 T44-1 or T50-1 toroid cores (blue color) | > | > I also ordered a 9.800 mHz crystal (HC-49 case 20 pf load capacitance) | from | > International Crystal Manufacturing www.icmfg.com. | > | > If you are planning to use the K1 ATU with this board, you should also | order | > the P1 (3 pin) and P2 (10 pin - 5 x 2) headers from Elecraft. | > | > The parts from Elecraft (without the headers) were less than $15 and the | > crystal was priced at $17.95 - not an unreasonable price IMHO. | > | > I assembled the 2 band board with the 80 meter components in the band 2 | > locations as indicated in the instructions - except for L5 and L6 were | left | > empty at this time. | > | > Next, the low- pass toroids were wound with 21 turns (20 inches of wire) | on | > the T50-1 (blue) cores, and soldered into the L9 and L10 positions. | > | > The 4.7 uH variable inductors were soldered in the positions for L5 and | L6. | > On the bottom of the board, 1200 pf capacitors were soldered across L5 and | > L6 (the outer pins on the side of the can with 3 pins). | > | > The 33 uH inductor goes into the position marked for C13. Form the leads | > under the inductor body so that the leads fit into the holes - my inductor | > is parallel with the board and tucked between the bandpass filter cans. | > | > Mount the 9.8 mHz crystal at the X1 position and solder the grounding wire | > to the side of the can (or top if you prefer). | > | > The remaining capacitors are fitted into the following positions: | > C1 & C5 - 680 pf | > C2 & C4 - 2700 pf | > C3 - 12 pf | > | > C11 & C15 - 1800 pf | > C12 & C14 - 560 pf | > C21 & C23 - 1500 pf | > C22- 2700 pf | > | > You should now have all the holes filled, and can proceed to align the 2 | > band board following the instructions in the K1 manual. Mine came up with | > no trouble at all. | | 73, | Don W3FPR | | > -Original Message- | > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of SteveG | > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:11 AM | > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net | > Subject: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m | > | > | > Hi Folks, I've a couple of spare FIL-2 revD boards that I want to | > reload for | > fun. Put one on 40/80 and the other on 80m/160m(?). | > | > Here's my Qs: | > 1. Will the ATU handle 80m? ...and what about 160M? assuming I'm | > not trying | > to load a 'coat hanger' on 160! | > 2. Where can I get the info on putting K1 FIL 2 on 160m ? is it worht the | > effort? | > 3. My FIL-4 aready has 40m if I do a FIL-2 on 40/80 is it a pain to recal | > for the band/board swap? | > 4. So when iis the KX1 30/80 brd gonna debut??? I would love to fill those | >
RE: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m
Steve, Putting a K1 on 160 can be done easily (see instructions below for one method). Not too much effort. The KAT1 will tune OK, but the range will not be as great as on higher bands. In my opinion, it is a pain to have 2 40 meter boards and keep track of which is what. Note that the K1 will remember 6 bands, so a 4 band board for 40 and up plus a 2 band board for 160 and 80 makes sense to me. ADDING 160 meters to a K1: > Not quite a full "Elecraft" 160m & 80m board, but you can do it this way - > order a 2 band board for 80m and any other band, PLUS, order the following > components (Elecraft has them all except the crystal) - here are the > instructions for how I did it: -- > maybe you can make a deal with someone at Elecraft to ship a ''1 band board > and the other needed parts" > > I ordered the following from Elecraft: > > Capacitors: > 2 - E530002 1500 pf capacitor > 3 - E530003 2700 pf capacitor > 2 - E530005 1200 pf capacitor > 2 - E530035 1800 pf capacitor > 2 - E530052 560 pf capacitor > 2 - E530053 680 pf capacitor > 1 - E53005812 pf capacitor > > Inductors: > 1 - E690007 33 uh inductor > 2 - E690001 4.7 uh variable inductor (wide tuning slot) > > Toroid cores: > 2 - E680001 T44-1 or T50-1 toroid cores (blue color) > > I also ordered a 9.800 mHz crystal (HC-49 case 20 pf load capacitance) from > International Crystal Manufacturing www.icmfg.com. > > If you are planning to use the K1 ATU with this board, you should also order > the P1 (3 pin) and P2 (10 pin - 5 x 2) headers from Elecraft. > > The parts from Elecraft (without the headers) were less than $15 and the > crystal was priced at $17.95 - not an unreasonable price IMHO. > > I assembled the 2 band board with the 80 meter components in the band 2 > locations as indicated in the instructions - except for L5 and L6 were left > empty at this time. > > Next, the low- pass toroids were wound with 21 turns (20 inches of wire) on > the T50-1 (blue) cores, and soldered into the L9 and L10 positions. > > The 4.7 uH variable inductors were soldered in the positions for L5 and L6. > On the bottom of the board, 1200 pf capacitors were soldered across L5 and > L6 (the outer pins on the side of the can with 3 pins). > > The 33 uH inductor goes into the position marked for C13. Form the leads > under the inductor body so that the leads fit into the holes - my inductor > is parallel with the board and tucked between the bandpass filter cans. > > Mount the 9.8 mHz crystal at the X1 position and solder the grounding wire > to the side of the can (or top if you prefer). > > The remaining capacitors are fitted into the following positions: > C1 & C5 - 680 pf > C2 & C4 - 2700 pf > C3 - 12 pf > > C11 & C15 - 1800 pf > C12 & C14 - 560 pf > C21 & C23 - 1500 pf > C22- 2700 pf > > You should now have all the holes filled, and can proceed to align the 2 > band board following the instructions in the K1 manual. Mine came up with > no trouble at all. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of SteveG > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:11 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K1 160m/80m > > > Hi Folks, I've a couple of spare FIL-2 revD boards that I want to > reload for > fun. Put one on 40/80 and the other on 80m/160m(?). > > Here's my Qs: > 1. Will the ATU handle 80m? ...and what about 160M? assuming I'm > not trying > to load a 'coat hanger' on 160! > 2. Where can I get the info on putting K1 FIL 2 on 160m ? is it worht the > effort? > 3. My FIL-4 aready has 40m if I do a FIL-2 on 40/80 is it a pain to recal > for the band/board swap? > 4. So when iis the KX1 30/80 brd gonna debut??? I would love to fill those > long cold winter eves with few KX1-QSOs durning my snow cave adventures. > Steve/n0tu (in digest mode) > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
