Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question. Again?

2012-08-08 Thread N4QS
Phil,

Go to this link on the Elecraft website:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/Roofing_Filters.htm

And this link:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3_filter_plots.htm


Dave, N4QS


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From: Phil Townsend phi...@mac.com
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question. Again?


 Why an 8 pole filter
 
 OR
 
 Why a 5 pole filter?
 
 Yeah I know the 5 poles are cheaper... but other than that.
 
 Phil
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question Again?

2012-08-08 Thread Matt Zilmer
Those 8-pole filters have steeper skirts.  Either the 5- or 8-pole
work quite well.

I use 5-pole for the narrower filters (250, 500), and the 8-pole for
1.8, 2.8, 13 KHz bandwidths.

73,
matt W6NIA
K3 #24

On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:12:58 -0600, you wrote:

Why an 8 pole filter

OR

Why a 5 pole filter?

Yeah I know the 5 poles are cheaper... but other than that.

Phil
Santa Fe
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question Again?

2012-08-08 Thread K4ia
My thought on the 5 pole was that it would give you some protection but because 
the skirts were not as steep you could hear someone calling you off frequency 
better. They would be down but not out.  The 5's have slightly less insertion 
loss and are cheaper. On the other hand they need an offset adjustment and 
therefore don't lend themselves to diversity reception as well.

I think the answer is: it depends on your style of operating and what you want 
to spend. The reason there is more than one choice is that one size does not 
fit all. Or, as my Nana used to say, that's why they don't make it all 
vanilla.

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:04 PM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net wrote:

 Those 8-pole filters have steeper skirts.  Either the 5- or 8-pole
 work quite well.
 
 I use 5-pole for the narrower filters (250, 500), and the 8-pole for
 1.8, 2.8, 13 KHz bandwidths.
 
 73,
 matt W6NIA
 K3 #24
 
 On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:12:58 -0600, you wrote:
 
 Why an 8 pole filter
 
 OR
 
 Why a 5 pole filter?
 
 Yeah I know the 5 poles are cheaper... but other than that.
 
 Phil
 Santa Fe
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question Again?

2012-08-08 Thread Matt Zilmer
Good point.  It would depend upon whether or not you'd want to hear
someone so far from zero beat.  

73,
matt

On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:38:06 -0400, you wrote:

My thought on the 5 pole was that it would give you some protection but 
because the skirts were not as steep you could hear someone calling you off 
frequency better. They would be down but not out.  The 5's have slightly less 
insertion loss and are cheaper. On the other hand they need an offset 
adjustment and therefore don't lend themselves to diversity reception as well.

I think the answer is: it depends on your style of operating and what you want 
to spend. The reason there is more than one choice is that one size does not 
fit all. Or, as my Nana used to say, that's why they don't make it all 
vanilla.

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:04 PM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net wrote:

 Those 8-pole filters have steeper skirts.  Either the 5- or 8-pole
 work quite well.
 
 I use 5-pole for the narrower filters (250, 500), and the 8-pole for
 1.8, 2.8, 13 KHz bandwidths.
 
 73,
 matt W6NIA
 K3 #24
 
 On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:12:58 -0600, you wrote:
 
 Why an 8 pole filter
 
 OR
 
 Why a 5 pole filter?
 
 Yeah I know the 5 poles are cheaper... but other than that.
 
 Phil
 Santa Fe
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