Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split reminder
You guys are beating a dead horse again Every radio has it's differences!! Some you like, some you don't. If they were all the same we'd be talk about how all our "Wa-cha-ma-call-its" Radio looks and does evwerything the same!! If you like the way, your brand X(Not wanting to pick on anyone's little baby) works, then go buy one and get on their nice quite reflectors I'll give you 10 cents on the dollar for your K(n) and accessories!! Elecraft - KEEP IT COMING!!! de K2GN/Larry K3 - S/N 3278 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split reminder
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:53:27 -0700 (PDT), "Julian, G4ILO" wrote: > >This has to be one of the silliest threads EVER! [snip] Thet's fer shore! Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split reminder [ Thread has really ENDed..]
Guys - I ended this thread yesterday. Thanks again for all the input! 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft moderator DC1RS wrote: > What about a menue item that will activate split automaticly when the DX says > "up" and will bring the operator a beer or a coffe when the DX says "QRX 5"? > ;-) > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split reminder
What about a menue item that will activate split automaticly when the DX says "up" and will bring the operator a beer or a coffe when the DX says "QRX 5"? ;-) Sorry couldn't resist, don't beat me up &-( 73 de Roland, DC1RS - K3/100 #1243, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-2.1K, KFL3A-400, KRX3, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-400, KAT3, KXV3A -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Split-reminder-tp3851091p3858481.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split reminder
This has to be one of the silliest threads EVER! I think the indications that you are working split are clear enough, but if you go back and read the original post that started it, the OP complained that he had FORGOTTEN to engage split several times and suggested that a clearer indication of split activation would help avoid the error. What the OP actually wants is a reminder that split is NOT activated when it should have been. This can clearly only be achieved by making the K3 clairvoyant so that it knows how the station you have just tuned to is operating. If a user forgets to check that split is enabled when it is needed then I don't think even a fanfare of trumpets when it IS enabled will help. The only solution is to "engage brain before operating radio." - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Split-reminder-tp3851091p3858450.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split reminder
Dear Elecraft and all gentlemen Rigth it is one's own fault not seing the yellow delta ligth, but but but I would sure wake up if the two frequencies in the display changed place when transmitting on the VFO B (oh yes then the designation A and B would be wrong). But anyway I would be protected from my self. A less drastic solution would be to have a transmit frequency blinking slowly regardless of being VFO A or VFO B. Vy 73 OZ1CCM Kjeld -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Hinson Sent: 19. oktober 2009 22:40 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split reminder > There is just so much any manufacturer can do to protect an operator > from him or herself. The K3 already has the delta f light, the SPLIT > indicator on the display (TU W2ZK - I'd forgotten that) and frequency > readout for both VFOs. As one who has made his share of errors with > the K3 and other radios, there is simply no substitute for just > learning how to use any radio. True, and it seems I'm still learning! I like the arrangement on the TS850 and similar radios which have a set of TX and RX buttons for VFO A and VFO B, with LED indicators for the active VFO. Visually, it's easy to select the split. The K3's smaller display and control panel make this harder, but not impossible. I'm just retraining my eyes to spot the new clues. Maybe turning up the LED brightness will help (Menu -> LED BRT) but I support the idea of making the delta-F LED flash in true split mode (not just with RIT/XIT). I usually get it wrong having excitedly QSYd to a spot frequency on DXcluster: the rig defaults to no-split, naturally. I normally remember to tweak VFO B up 1 (or whatever) and set the sub-RX to listen there, but sometimes I neglect to hit-and-hold the split button as well. That's quite a lot of buttons to press in a hurry. So FWIW I also vote for an "instant split" function, i.e. if I hold the split button, I'd like VFO B to shift up/down by a configurable and ideally mode- and maybe even band-dependent offset from VFO A and also turn on the sub RX [if fitted] on VFO B. [Yes, this would of course be an optional, configurable, take-it-or-leave-it change to suit those of you who don't like *my* defaults!] In the absense of a firmware fix for this, maybe someone can figure out a way to make the logging program send the relevant commands to the K3 from one button press, or just whenever I click a cluster spot (since most spottees are operating split)? > The real problem with split errors is the insidious nastiness of the > cops when a quick "RSE up" will do (and the DX isn't TX!), or perhaps > a Talk cluster message that no one else sees. Either would be far less > disruptive. Absolutely. See http://www.k6sgh.com/splitpolice.htm :-) 4U1UN on 30m was wiped out by an EA caller this morning, who I think was calling another lower station on split. The cops who sent "UP UP UP UP IDIOT" etc., several times each, made a simple problem worse since the EA was evidently not listening on his TX freq (another good reason for the instant-split function to also set the sub-RX on VFO B). 73 Gary ZL2iFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split reminder
> There is just so much any manufacturer can do to protect an operator > from him or herself. The K3 already has the delta f light, the SPLIT > indicator on the display (TU W2ZK - I'd forgotten that) and > frequency > readout for both VFOs. As one who has made his share of errors with > the K3 and other radios, there is simply no substitute for just > learning how to use any radio. True, and it seems I'm still learning! I like the arrangement on the TS850 and similar radios which have a set of TX and RX buttons for VFO A and VFO B, with LED indicators for the active VFO. Visually, it's easy to select the split. The K3's smaller display and control panel make this harder, but not impossible. I'm just retraining my eyes to spot the new clues. Maybe turning up the LED brightness will help (Menu -> LED BRT) but I support the idea of making the delta-F LED flash in true split mode (not just with RIT/XIT). I usually get it wrong having excitedly QSYd to a spot frequency on DXcluster: the rig defaults to no-split, naturally. I normally remember to tweak VFO B up 1 (or whatever) and set the sub-RX to listen there, but sometimes I neglect to hit-and-hold the split button as well. That's quite a lot of buttons to press in a hurry. So FWIW I also vote for an "instant split" function, i.e. if I hold the split button, I'd like VFO B to shift up/down by a configurable and ideally mode- and maybe even band-dependent offset from VFO A and also turn on the sub RX [if fitted] on VFO B. [Yes, this would of course be an optional, configurable, take-it-or-leave-it change to suit those of you who don't like *my* defaults!] In the absense of a firmware fix for this, maybe someone can figure out a way to make the logging program send the relevant commands to the K3 from one button press, or just whenever I click a cluster spot (since most spottees are operating split)? > The real problem with split errors is the insidious nastiness of the > cops when a quick "RSE up" will do (and the DX isn't TX!), or > perhaps > a Talk cluster message that no one else sees. Either would be > far less > disruptive. Absolutely. See http://www.k6sgh.com/splitpolice.htm :-) 4U1UN on 30m was wiped out by an EA caller this morning, who I think was calling another lower station on split. The cops who sent "UP UP UP UP IDIOT" etc., several times each, made a simple problem worse since the EA was evidently not listening on his TX freq (another good reason for the instant-split function to also set the sub-RX on VFO B). 73 Gary ZL2iFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
