Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2010-02-23 Thread Greg - AB7R
One thing I wish was a stand alone button that could be labeled QRP. I'm
always tuning up on 5 watts. 


VERY simple macro will do this.  Try assigning PC005; to one of your macro 
buttons.  I 
do this already but with using DXLabs...they have programable macro buttons 
available as 
well.  But you can do it directly to the K3 too.


-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065


On Mon Feb 22 23:01 , -.-.  --.-N3TU -.-.  --.-  sent:


Can you make the FM sound sweet? The FM sounds like you're listening to an
HT. It doesn't sound as rich as the other modes. Maybe giving the FM a
deeper sound. Maybe that's what I mean. I've heard VHF radios and the FM
sounds deeper/more base than the K3 unless I don't have something set right
on here. 

How about taking the frequency above 30 mhz.

One thing I wish was a stand alone button that could be labeled QRP. I'm
always tuning up on 5 watts. 

If you are going to put two meters into the radio, offer a 100 watt option. 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2010-02-22 Thread -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.-

Can you make the FM sound sweet? The FM sounds like you're listening to an
HT. It doesn't sound as rich as the other modes. Maybe giving the FM a
deeper sound. Maybe that's what I mean. I've heard VHF radios and the FM
sounds deeper/more base than the K3 unless I don't have something set right
on here. 

How about taking the frequency above 30 mhz.

One thing I wish was a stand alone button that could be labeled QRP. I'm
always tuning up on 5 watts. 

If you are going to put two meters into the radio, offer a 100 watt option. 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2010-02-22 Thread Brett Howard
You can set the radio to tune on 5 watts automatically.  You can go to
the TUN PWR menu in CONFIG and rather than NOR set it to 5 watts.  Then
whenever you enter the tune mode it will put out 5 watts.  Then when you
are done tuning you'll still be set at whatever power you were before.

~Brett (KC7OTG)

On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 23:01 -0800, -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.- wrote:
 Can you make the FM sound sweet? The FM sounds like you're listening to an
 HT. It doesn't sound as rich as the other modes. Maybe giving the FM a
 deeper sound. Maybe that's what I mean. I've heard VHF radios and the FM
 sounds deeper/more base than the K3 unless I don't have something set right
 on here. 
 
 How about taking the frequency above 30 mhz.
 
 One thing I wish was a stand alone button that could be labeled QRP. I'm
 always tuning up on 5 watts. 
 
 If you are going to put two meters into the radio, offer a 100 watt option. 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2010-01-15 Thread Wes Stewart
If it's not too late I would like to add another couple of requests.

1)  Add Accukey emulation so I can send CW with the K3.

2)  Since the new DSP mods extends the bandwidth down to minus DC, implement 
phasing detection to improve the opposite sideband rejection.  Even without the 
bandwidth extension, the SSB opposite sideband rejection is not the greatest.  

Wes  N7WS


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Hi all,

As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and  
improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested  
changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the  
demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:  
switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with  
PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,  
and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is 
 
missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to  
use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for  
specific operating situations.

We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software  
developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3  
firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
developers and work with them closely.

We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new  
products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2010-01-15 Thread Merv Schweigert


 2)  Since the new DSP mods extends the bandwidth down to minus DC, implement 
 phasing detection to improve the opposite sideband rejection.  Even without 
 the bandwidth extension, the SSB opposite sideband rejection is not the 
 greatest.  

 Wes  N7WS
   
I think that has been altered from really good suppression to just so so
from the demand of users to go to the lower audio freqs.  I complained
about it in private and they shifted the offset a little to make it some
better,  for me I need the supression,  not the 10HZ audio..
Merv KH7C

   

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2010-01-15 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Merv Schweigert wrote:
 
 I think that has been altered from really good suppression to just so so
 from the demand of users to go to the lower audio freqs.  I complained
 about it in private and they shifted the offset a little to make it some
 better,  for me I need the supression,  not the 10HZ audio..
 
Surely the opposite sideband suppression is the same as it always was? All
that has changed is the ability to hear it. To restore the previous
functionality just move LO CUT up a bit and set the 50 and 100Hz EQ settings
to the minimum.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2010-01-15 Thread Wes Stewart
If I use my XG2 as a source into the K3 and set the SSB BW to the default 
settings for my 2.8KHz 8-pole filter (100Hz to 2.9KHz) the signal which is S9 
at its peak is still S7 at zero beat.  A 100 Hz beat note on the wrong sideband 
is still S3 and a 200 Hz beat is S1.

The equalizer has no effect of the s-meter.  

If I run this same test on my TS-870, even with the lower pass band set to 
zero, there is no opposite sideband, nada, zip.  That's because the '870 uses 
the phasing method of detection in addition to crystal and DSP filtering.

I am no DSP expert but I have been told that this would be pretty easy 
implement in DSP.  So why not do it?

Wes  N7WS


--- On Fri, 1/15/10, Julian, G4ILO julian.g4...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Julian, G4ILO julian.g4...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 3:54 PM
 
 
 
 Merv Schweigert wrote:
  
  I think that has been altered from really good
 suppression to just so so
  from the demand of users to go to the lower audio
 freqs.  I complained
  about it in private and they shifted the offset a
 little to make it some
  better,  for me I need the supression,  not
 the 10HZ audio..
  
 Surely the opposite sideband suppression is the same as it
 always was? All
 that has changed is the ability to hear it. To restore the
 previous
 functionality just move LO CUT up a bit and set the 50 and
 100Hz EQ settings
 to the minimum.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2010-01-15 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Wes Stewart wrote:
 
 If I use my XG2 as a source into the K3 and set the SSB BW to the default
 settings for my 2.8KHz 8-pole filter (100Hz to 2.9KHz) the signal which is
 S9 at its peak is still S7 at zero beat.  A 100 Hz beat note on the wrong
 sideband is still S3 and a 200 Hz beat is S1.
 
 The equalizer has no effect of the s-meter.  
 
 If I run this same test on my TS-870, even with the lower pass band set to
 zero, there is no opposite sideband, nada, zip.  That's because the '870
 uses the phasing method of detection in addition to crystal and DSP
 filtering.
 
The S meter measures the amount of signal that gets through the filters. I
don't see how the detection method would affect it.

I just ran the same test. With my 2.7KHz filter I got S6 at zero beat,
otherwise the results were much the same as yours. I admit it doesn't look
too impressive, but I don't have anything else to compare it with. The S
meters on other radios tend to be a lot more sensitive over the range up to
S9 (i.e. fewer dB per S-point) which would make the opposite sideband
rejection *look* better.

I think you can move the filter further away from the carrier by playing
with the offset values in the filter setup.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2010-01-15 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I was going to say, all of that being complained about, can be set any
way you want.  Try the SHIFT control on the front panel. Set the
crossover *anywhere you want it*.  The SHIFT setting is remembered by
mode.

Being able to hear down there was specifically requested by some who
do not share your tastes. In the past the firmware would NOT ALLOW
that degree of downward shift.  Now both of you can now set it like
you want it.

73, Guy.


On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Julian, G4ILO julian.g4...@gmail.com wrote:



 Wes Stewart wrote:

 If I use my XG2 as a source into the K3 and set the SSB BW to the default
 settings for my 2.8KHz 8-pole filter (100Hz to 2.9KHz) the signal which is
 S9 at its peak is still S7 at zero beat.  A 100 Hz beat note on the wrong
 sideband is still S3 and a 200 Hz beat is S1.

 The equalizer has no effect of the s-meter.

 If I run this same test on my TS-870, even with the lower pass band set to
 zero, there is no opposite sideband, nada, zip.  That's because the '870
 uses the phasing method of detection in addition to crystal and DSP
 filtering.

 The S meter measures the amount of signal that gets through the filters. I
 don't see how the detection method would affect it.

 I just ran the same test. With my 2.7KHz filter I got S6 at zero beat,
 otherwise the results were much the same as yours. I admit it doesn't look
 too impressive, but I don't have anything else to compare it with. The S
 meters on other radios tend to be a lot more sensitive over the range up to
 S9 (i.e. fewer dB per S-point) which would make the opposite sideband
 rejection *look* better.

 I think you can move the filter further away from the carrier by playing
 with the offset values in the filter setup.

 -
 Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-31 Thread Mario Lorenz
Hi Wayne,

Am 23. Dec 2009, um 10:02:02 schrieb Wayne Burdick:

 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to  
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for  
 specific operating situations.

Being the 31th I hope I am not too late with my wishlist :)
Some of them I have already voiced here in the past.

- Pressing the CW hand key without PTT active triggers  external
Amp keyout line. It has been claimed people want it that way, but
no other radio I know does that and I havent seen a rationale
for this...


- Modifying settings while transmitting

- power control: 0 to 100 in one turn..

- The Power Lock feature is useful, but sometimes too inflexible.
In a contest/Fieldday setting, I would like to set limits. I dont
mind the operator using the power control, he might to if he has
to qsy and re-tune the amp, but I'd like configurable limits
as in dont allow more than XX Watts out (because more would overdrive
the amp/violate contest rules). A software-only setup with some computer
commands would suffice, these limits dont need to be permanent.

- A watchdog function for computer-enabled PTT (serial command or rts/cts)
that disables PTT after configurable seconds of inactivity, activity being
defined as any serial command (including polling) or change of the key line
(CW). This is meant as a safety feature for remote control, where the
computer might crash.

- Dynamic VFO fine/coarse tuning. I like having the tuning set to medium,
or even fine. To tune several 10 kHz away, I would either have to move
my hands once (to the other vfo knob), or twice ( switch to coarse,
tune, switch back to fine) or turn the wheel rapidly. I wonder if
the K3 could not detect me turning the vfo wheel continuously, and thus
learn I could never ever be fine-tuning, and increase the tuning rate
dynamically. Thats how other radios behave...


- The long-promised service manual, as my K3 is now out of warranty.

- At least, a current set of schematics, as promised for early december,
including eg. the DSP board changes
 
 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software  
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3  
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
 developers and work with them closely.

- Integration of the CW keyer with Win-Test

Hardware:

An KIO replacement board that has a direct computer connection via
USB, with built in sound card function, built in CAT com port
function etc. so that there is only one cable to the PC.
(a variant of this could go into my K2 as well)

Now, 73s, and happy new year,

Mario
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-31 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I'd still like to see Ultimatic as well as Iambic please.
HNY
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-31 Thread Paul Christensen
 An KIO replacement board that has a direct computer connection via
 USB, with built in sound card function, built in CAT com port
 function etc. so that there is only one cable to the PC.

A very well-thought list and I'll second Mario's input, particularly a 
USB-based KIO board as a universal upgrade, or even a premium option.

73  HNY to all...

Paul, W9AC 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-31 Thread n...@cableone.net

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-30 Thread Joe Planisky
Hi Wayne,

One more item for your list.  I just ran into an ERR PTT situation  
and discovered that you can't turn the rig off while ERR PTT is  
showing.  I.e. it doesn't respond to pressing the POWER button.  I  
understand the need to disable most all functionality until the ERR  
PTT is cleared, but disabling the ability to turn the rig off seems a  
step too far.

73
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On Dec 23, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
 based on your input.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-30 Thread Duncan Carter
I've found the same problem and this problem seems to be of recent origin.

Dunc, W5DC

Joe Planisky wrote:
 Hi Wayne,

 One more item for your list.  I just ran into an ERR PTT situation  
 and discovered that you can't turn the rig off while ERR PTT is  
 showing.  I.e. it doesn't respond to pressing the POWER button.  I  
 understand the need to disable most all functionality until the ERR  
 PTT is cleared, but disabling the ability to turn the rig off seems a  
 step too far.

 73
 --
 Joe KB8AP

 On Dec 23, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

   
 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
 based on your input.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-30 Thread Grant Youngman
Does the ERR PTT go away if the PTT line is unasserted after the error message 
appears?  

Grant/NQ5T

On Dec 30, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Duncan Carter wrote:

 I've found the same problem and this problem seems to be of recent origin.
 
 Dunc, W5DC
 
 Joe Planisky wrote:
 Hi Wayne,
 
 One more item for your list.  I just ran into an ERR PTT situation  
 and discovered that you can't turn the rig off while ERR PTT is  
 showing.  I.e. it doesn't respond to pressing the POWER button.  I  
 understand the need to disable most all functionality until the ERR  
 PTT is cleared, but disabling the ability to turn the rig off seems a  
 step too far.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-30 Thread Duncan Carter
No, when it's happened on my K3, the PTT line should be open/clear and 
neither is a key line. 

Dunc, W5DC

Grant Youngman wrote:
 Does the ERR PTT go away if the PTT line is unasserted after the error 
 message appears?  

 Grant/NQ5T

 On Dec 30, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Duncan Carter wrote:

   
 I've found the same problem and this problem seems to be of recent origin.

 Dunc, W5DC

 Joe Planisky wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne,

 One more item for your list.  I just ran into an ERR PTT situation  
 and discovered that you can't turn the rig off while ERR PTT is  
 showing.  I.e. it doesn't respond to pressing the POWER button.  I  
 understand the need to disable most all functionality until the ERR  
 PTT is cleared, but disabling the ability to turn the rig off seems a  
 step too far.
   

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-30 Thread Duncan Carter
Pardon my bad grammar.  When this happens on start-up, the PTT line from 
the mike is not closed and neither is any key line.

Duncan Carter wrote:
 No, when it's happened on my K3, the PTT line should be open/clear and 
 neither is a key line. 

 Dunc, W5DC

 Grant Youngman wrote:
   
 Does the ERR PTT go away if the PTT line is unasserted after the error 
 message appears?  

 Grant/NQ5T

 On Dec 30, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Duncan Carter wrote:

   
 
 I've found the same problem and this problem seems to be of recent origin.

 Dunc, W5DC

 Joe Planisky wrote:
 
   
 Hi Wayne,

 One more item for your list.  I just ran into an ERR PTT situation  
 and discovered that you can't turn the rig off while ERR PTT is  
 showing.  I.e. it doesn't respond to pressing the POWER button.  I  
 understand the need to disable most all functionality until the ERR  
 PTT is cleared, but disabling the ability to turn the rig off seems a  
 step too far.
   
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-28 Thread Olli Tuppurainen
I would like to see separate RX EQ setting possibilities for CW and SSB.
At least I prefer totally different values in different modes

BR and HNY

Olli
OH6CT


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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] Puolesta Wayne Burdick
 Lähetetty: 23. joulukuuta 2009 20:02
 Vastaanottaja: Elecraft Reflector; elecr...@yahoogroups.com; 
 elecraft...@yahoogroups.com
 Aihe: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software
 
 Hi all,
 
 As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and 
 improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the 
 most-requested changes were made over the past several 
 months, keeping pace with the demands of the fall/winter 
 contest season. (A few that come to mind:  
 switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR 
 interaction with PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, 
 lockable transmit controls, and many enhanced remote-control 
 commands.)
 
 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master 
 firmware list based on your input. Items already on the list 
 have priority, of course, but this is a great opportunity to 
 let us know what else is missing or could be improved. Our 
 goal is to make the K3 as easy to use as possible, while 
 providing the advanced features you need for specific 
 operating situations.
 
 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application 
 software developers. If your ideas for improvements involve 
 changes to both K3 firmware and a favorite application, we'll 
 pass it along to the developers and work with them closely.
 
 We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other 
 new products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-27 Thread Wayne Burdick
Thanks for the input, everyone. I've saved all of your suggestions,  
and no doubt we'll be reviewing and prioritizing well into 2010.

Probably time to end the thread, too.

Here's to a safe and happy new year!

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-26 Thread Joe Planisky
Fix strange LO/HI CUT interactions. (Or tell me that the way it works  
is intentional or some limitation of the DSP algorithms used.)

Here are some examples of unexpected behavior with FW 3.68 in DATA-A  
mode.  Numbers in parentheses are the values I get on my K3.

Not an interaction, but unexpected: In LSB, DATA, DATA-R, CW, and CW-R  
modes, the LO/HI steps are on x.x5 kHz boundaries (e.g. 0.15, 0.25,  
0.35, etc.). In USB mode, they're on x.1x kHz boundaries (e.g. 0.10,  
0.20. 0.30, etc.).

Set HI=3.05 and LO=0.55.
- Now set HI as high as it will go. Note the value (4.20)
- Now set HI back to 3.05, and set LO=2.05.
- Again set HI as high as it will go.  Note the value (3.15)
So with LO=0.55, HImax=4.20, but with LO=2.05, HImax=3.15

Set HI=3.05 and LO=0.55
- Now set HI as high as it will go. (4.20)
- Now set LO as high as it will go. Note the value (1.05)
- Now set HI=3.15
- Now set LO as high as it will go. Note the value (2.05)
So with HI=4.20, LOmax=1.05, but with HI=3.15, LOmax=2.05

Set HI=3.05 and LO=0.00.
- Now set HI as low as it will go.  Note the value (0.75)
- Set HI back to 3.05, and set LO=0.25.
- Again set HI as low as it will go.  Note the value (0.55)
So with LO=0.00, HImin=0.75, but with LO=0.25, HImin=0.55
- Bonus: now set LO as low as it will go (0.25)
So with HI=0.75+, LOmin=0.00, but with HI=0.55, LOmin=0.25

These anomalies show up in USB and LSB modes as well, but you're not  
likely to run into them in normal voice situations.  Likewise there  
are similar interactions in CW mode, but I never use LO/HI CUT in CW  
mode.

73
--
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On Dec 23, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for
 specific operating situations.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-25 Thread Thomas Ries

I'd like to see the following enhancement:
Currently the transverter offset can be adjusted +/-9.99 kHz. I'd like
to have this range extended - maybe to +/- 99kHz.

Having an XV432 with stock XTAL + oven, the elevated temperature from
the oven pushes the LO quite a bit in frequency. I know that once can
adjust the LO in a certain range but to get the LO into the +/- 9kHz
range I have to pull it quite close to the point where the LO it stops
oscillating...


Great radio.

73 and best wishes for 2010
de Thomas, HB9XAR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-25 Thread James Sarte
I don't know if anyone has requested it yet, but how about a pulse tuning
function for those of us who use tube amps?

73 and Merry Christmas to all!

James K2QI

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and
 improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested
 changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the
 demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:
 switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with
 PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,
 and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for
 specific operating situations.

 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the
 developers and work with them closely.

 We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new
 products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-25 Thread Carl Clawson
I second the motion.

73, Carl WS7L 


 I don't know if anyone has requested it yet, but how about a 
 pulse tuning function for those of us who use tube amps?
 
 73 and Merry Christmas to all!
 
 James K2QI

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Gary, VE1RGB
I think it was all a sincere but clever ruse by Elecraft to introduce this
topic right before Christmas.  Keeps us all busy dreaming up things to do
and debating the merits amongst ourselves, meanwhile leaving them alone to
enjoy a couple of days off.  After Christmas, they come back and pick up the
winner improvement ideas and start a new list.

Gary, VE1RGB

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Boythe dam and broke  Spent the lats 45 minutes reading all this
stuff.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Stewart
Pretty pleased with the way my K3 works. The only improvements 
which come immediately to mind concern the memories.

1) The ability to create, edit and store all K3 memory parameters 
on a computer and then upload them to my K3.

2) Some form of memory protection to prevent accidental 
overwriting of the memories.

73
Stewart G3RXQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread David Pratt
I do not use headphones and therefore have the monitor at zero so as not 
to cause feedback, but it would be nice to hear what's going on when 
sending from the DVR. Could the MON be set to a pre-set level when 
transmitting from the DVR memory?

(Not sure whether that is included in the following, Wayne. I know it 
was on the list at one time but could have fallen by the wayside.)

In a recent message, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote ...
(A few that come to mind:
switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with
PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,
and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

73
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Jan Erik Holm
This is what I like to see:

1. Pritty much no more features just refine and work
on what´s already there, refine the design.

2. Better S-meter resolution, 5 dB not good enough.

3. Possibility to adjust CW keyed envelope rise and
fall time. Think it´s 5 ms now so lets say 5 - 8 ms
adjustable. IMO keying is too hard and the result
is mild key clicks.

4. I like to see a Service Manual.

73 and merry xmas to the whole Elecraft gang / Jim SM2EKM

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Stewart
The ability to transmit AM thru the FM crystal filter.

73
Stewart G3RXQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread juergen

Hi

We talking firmware only?

Better S-meter resolution maybe a Dbm or Db microvolt scale for field strength 
measurements

S-meter peak memories - calculates difference for antenna comparisons

Averaging  S-meter readings with sampling time setting

Transmit Double sideband suppressed carrier

ISB

Tuning pulser with variable duty cycle(I know you can do it on CW)

VU meter for TX audio settings

White noise generator

Sweeping audio oscillator

Predistortion for better IMD on TX

Class A bias or variable bias

EQ per mode

Fast selection of EQ on TX,  maybe 2 selections DX and normal

High boost for the TX audio like  the Kenwoods have

Split band speech processing

Syllabic SSB squelch

Variable TX bandwidth like the Icom 756 PRO

Wide and narrow notch filter

APF filter

Disable speech processor on play back from DVR

10 minute QSO timer 

Bug keying

MY BANDS enables you set your own bands ie MARS or MARINE or AERONAUTICAL

Remote control like the TS480

Power output control in  Db steps  maybe 1, 2 or 3db

QRP power set  activation for MAX power of 5 watts

Beacon MODE like the California DX associations beacon format

Lock the internal RTC to the TXCO

SELCALL on HF this would be a first(dont know if its legal)

Excuse me if many of these things are not technically possible. I am just 
dreaming!

John








  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Zoli Pitman HA1AG




- Original Message 
From: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net

Barry asked for the ability to display AGC parameters.  These values are
currently read by accessing menus and reading them from the VFO A display
area.  During that menu access, another application might send an UP or DN
command, which could change one of the AGC parameters.  That's my only
point.  New single-command queries could solve that particular issue.


exactly. Maybe u want to block CAT-sourced commands the while menu is open. (or 
at least some of them - think on remote operation, negative testing) 

interesting thread. tnx.

73, 

zoli ha1ag



  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Barry N1EU


N2TK wrote:
 
 Is there any way to setup the K3 utility through LP-Bridge to send macros
 for the utility program to the K3 without having to close LP-Bridge then
 starting the K3 utility program? I understand that you have to close the
 LP-Bridge for downloading updates.
 

Why don't you just use LP-Bridge's disconnect option instead of closing
LP-Bridge?

73  happy holidays,
Barry N1EU

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Larry - K2GN
A ot of good stuff going on the list.
One thing I'm puzzled about is the amount of external control people are 
asking for.
I haven't seen anything that can't be done with existing software.
Programs like N1MM for contest allows you to sent macros to the K3.
A real great day to dat program is he Commander module of DXLabs Suite.
Here's my setup.
I connect to the K3 via my microHAM Keyer 2R+ using LP-Bridge(Great program, 
thanks Larry)
LP-B stands between the K3 and all other software. LP-B creats a virtual 
K3 in its memory.
It knows the status of the K3 at all times.
Through the use of Virtual COM Ports, LP-B connects other programs to the 
virtual K3 and passes only the necessary commands to the K3.
I connect DXLabs' Command, CWSkimmer to a virtual COM port in LP-B. I've 
even had N1MM connected at the same time.  The Command has a lot of standard 
front panel stuff already programmed for the K3 and it has 16 programable 
buttons to create macros with and 8 programable sliders for variable control 
of thing like audio, etc.
I would suggest that those the want software control of the K3 look into 
these programs.
The best part of this is they are ALL  FREE!!!
Oh, I forgot to mention that I also can connect the K3 UTIL and EASY-K3 when 
running the above setup!!!

Anybody want to discus this setup with me, please drop a line.

Happy Holidays.

de K2GN/Larry
K3 S/N 3278



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 N2TK wrote:

 Is there any way to setup the K3 utility through LP-Bridge to send macros
 for the utility program to the K3 without having to close LP-Bridge then
 starting the K3 utility program? I understand that you have to close the
 LP-Bridge for downloading updates.


 Why don't you just use LP-Bridge's disconnect option instead of closing
 LP-Bridge?

 73  happy holidays,
 Barry N1EU

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
1. Fix it so spot pitch does not mute the RX.  Makes it hard to
adjustin a busy contest. At a multi, different CW ops have different
tone centers.  Folks at NY4A set it anywhere from 450 to 650. Comes
into play when handing off a run to another op for a bathroom break.
Hit CQ, hand the headsets and jump out of the chair.  If I'm taking
over, I may be stuck with that 650 for a while because it mutes on RX
and you can't change it on TX.

2. Make it possible to tune RX while changing NR parameters, currently
VFO A is frozen even though it's not used for setting parms.

3a. Based on a saved RF gain for 50 uV cal signal, allow an AFV
reading mode that is in dBm, with a selectable peak retain mode. This
should not require resynching to 50uV every time, and be remembered.
KRX3 should have its own independent setting. Based upon RF gain
calibration, all that should be needed is front panel settings to be
in a routine range.

3b. Assuming 3a. was done, if two RX and diversity mode is on, display
AFV both signals in a differential mode for concise A/B testing.

3c. Assuming 3a. and 3b. were done, allow for time averaging and peak
save of values. Suggest AGC fast is no time averaging, AGC slow is
time averaging.  CW mode is no peak save, SSB mode is peak save. Data
mode shows signal to noise instead of signal.

4. When AGC is off, use the limiter settings to set a very high
intercept defensive AGC with response just slow enough to avoid
distortion when a loud signal pops in. Value of lim sets how loud the
signal will get before defensive AGC intercepts, but otherwise RF gain
sets the chain.

5. Data from 3a-c viewable on a horizontal scrolling display on P3
calibrated in dBm. This would include showing both signals from
diversity mode.

6. Fix internal speaker microphonic issue.

7. Add Ultimatic to Iambic AB paddle modes.

This is not a long list of complaints, just stuff that to my mind
would add to its capabilities.

K3 is best rig I have ever had, by far.

73, Guy.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Sam Carson
For us microwavers, who find the K3 to be the best microwave IF rig, the 
ability to lock the K3 to a 10 MHz reference is very important. Microwave 
receiver bandwidths are getting smaller and an insignificant frequency error 
at HF results in an error of hundreds of kilohertz if not megahertz at 
microwave frequencies.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Barry N1EU


wayne burdick wrote:
 
 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to  
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for  
 specific operating situations.
 

Give some attention to the very useful AF Limiter firmware and implement a
soft clipping algorithm.

73,
Barry N1EU

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread N3PSJ

I would like to see the K3 have advanced serial command set that would allow
the programmer to send the commands with an ID that would be returned when
the K3 responds.  That would allow Larry to modify LP Bridge so that it
could route the appropriate response to the appropriate sender without
having to poll the radio continuously.  I would also like to see the serial
port send a broadcast when user changes settings on the radio.  That would
allow the programmer writing the desktop application to get updates from the
K3 without having to poll the radio continuously.  So it would be like a
serial port event being raised or interrupt being fired.

I would be willing to help with this effort, although I don't have a lot of
time to devote.

I would also love to see a ethernet port on the K3 instead of a serial port. 
With popularity of wireless networks this would allow controlling the radio
without a dedicated computer at the rig.

Ken Nicely N3PSJ. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Geoffrey Downs
Strongly seconded David! I would just add for the avoidance of doubt that 
MON should go back to 0 again when the txing from DVR memory has finished. 
Otherwise it would be possible with a macro.

73 and Happy Christmas to all

Geoff
G3UCK

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I do not use headphones and therefore have the monitor at zero so as not
 to cause feedback, but it would be nice to hear what's going on when
 sending from the DVR. Could the MON be set to a pre-set level when
 transmitting from the DVR memory?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread drewko
1) A mode specific BAND switch (i.e., CW, SSB, AM, etc would each have
ten dedicated bands avaialble, independent of the other modes)

2) A live PITCH control so you can hear the pitch of received
signals as you adjust it, not covered by sidetone.

3) A smart passband shift step: 10 Hz for narrow filter widths 50 Hz
for wide, automatically selected.

4) Make the SQUELCH control functional for SCAN and permit live
adjustemt of squelch while scanning. 

5) Allow live fully variable SCAN rate adjustment while scanning. 

6) Enhanced switch macros: conditional execution and manipulation of
frequency memory.

7) Make the two non-numeral keypad keys (SPOT and AFX) available for
quick memory storage/retrieval using VM and MV.

8) Allow CW bandwidth wider than 2.8 KHz.

9) Allow LCD backlilght and LEDs to both be set to miimum brightness
at the same time.


73,
Drew
AF2Z





On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:02:02 -0800, Wayne N6KR wrote:

Hi all,

As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and  
improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested  
changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the  
demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:  
switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with  
PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,  
and many enhanced remote-control commands.)


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Grant Youngman

I have to admit that reading these posts has been interesting, if not down 
right exhausting.  

Some good suggestions, some pretty narrowly focused and esoteric ones, some 
related more to the (at best)  barely coherent jumble of PC software sitting 
behind the radio than the radio itself, and some downright head-scratchers that 
kind of make you wonder ... (??)

An idle perspective K3 purchaser would have to believe that the receiver can't 
hear anything because it's noisy, that there's something seriously wrong with 
AGC, that the S-meter doesn't work right, that it's basically impossible to use 
effectively, that the radio doesn't meet all high precision test equipment 
needs in the radio room, and that the radio clearly has a wide range of 
miscellaneous faults that just scream to be fixed NOW or else various users 
will trash it in favor of something else, which will be clearly faultless  :-)

Grant/NQ5T
K3 2091 with most everything
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Good thing that reflector not the prime sales media.  I would assign
that to word of mouth and Elecraft repeat customers.  You got one
contester telling another that he hears things with his K3 that never
heard (or never heard well enough to copy) before, and it gets around
that a multi/op owner listened to one of them in a contest elsewhere
and then bought eight of 'em for himself, you pretty much don't care
what's in an ad or posted in a reflector.

Word of mouth and repeat customers are a businessman's best friend.
Why a good name means so much and is a commercial tangible asset.

The FT1000MP heavily penetrated the contesting market a decade ago.
The K3 has done at least that well.

73, Guy.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Grant Youngman n...@tx.rr.com wrote:

 I have to admit that reading these posts has been interesting, if not down 
 right exhausting.
 An idle perspective K3 purchaser would have to believe that the receiver 
 can't hear anything because it's noisy, that there's something seriously 
 wrong with AGC, that the S-meter doesn't work right, that it's basically 
 impossible to use effectively, that the radio doesn't meet all high precision 
 test equipment needs in the radio room, and that the radio clearly has a wide 
 range of miscellaneous faults that just scream to be fixed NOW or else 
 various users will trash it in favor of something else, which will be clearly 
 faultless  :-)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread N2TK, Tony
Larry,
Good input. Right now I am running LP-Bridge to the K3 with SteppIR,
DXBase2007, AXETTY, Power SFR/K3 IF Stage and Skimmer without any problems.

Will have to check out Commander. I am looking for an easy way to play with
the macros without having to switch things around or open and close
programs.

Merry Christmas
N2TK, Tony


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Larry - K2GN
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:42 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

A ot of good stuff going on the list.
One thing I'm puzzled about is the amount of external control people are 
asking for.
I haven't seen anything that can't be done with existing software.
Programs like N1MM for contest allows you to sent macros to the K3.
A real great day to dat program is he Commander module of DXLabs Suite.
Here's my setup.
I connect to the K3 via my microHAM Keyer 2R+ using LP-Bridge(Great program,

thanks Larry)
LP-B stands between the K3 and all other software. LP-B creats a virtual 
K3 in its memory.
It knows the status of the K3 at all times.
Through the use of Virtual COM Ports, LP-B connects other programs to the 
virtual K3 and passes only the necessary commands to the K3.
I connect DXLabs' Command, CWSkimmer to a virtual COM port in LP-B. I've 
even had N1MM connected at the same time.  The Command has a lot of standard

front panel stuff already programmed for the K3 and it has 16 programable 
buttons to create macros with and 8 programable sliders for variable control

of thing like audio, etc.
I would suggest that those the want software control of the K3 look into 
these programs.
The best part of this is they are ALL  FREE!!!
Oh, I forgot to mention that I also can connect the K3 UTIL and EASY-K3 when

running the above setup!!!

Anybody want to discus this setup with me, please drop a line.

Happy Holidays.

de K2GN/Larry
K3 S/N 3278



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 N2TK wrote:

 Is there any way to setup the K3 utility through LP-Bridge to send macros
 for the utility program to the K3 without having to close LP-Bridge then
 starting the K3 utility program? I understand that you have to close the
 LP-Bridge for downloading updates.


 Why don't you just use LP-Bridge's disconnect option instead of closing
 LP-Bridge?

 73  happy holidays,
 Barry N1EU

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Brian Machesney
I would like to be able to lock the V-M front panel key.

In what must surely be the latest evidence of my brain's declining function,
I constantly confound the V-M and M-V buttons, inadvertently writing
over the memory contents. Pressing the V-M button while it is locked
would produce an audible beep and the text message unlock V-M

Along the same lines, I find that pressing M-V does not load both saved
frequencies into the main and sub receivers if the main and sub are set to
different bands when the key is pressed. I would like to have a way to make
this the default behavior when pressing the M-V key.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Gary Hinson
 In what must surely be the latest evidence of my brain's 
 declining function,
 I constantly confound the V-M and M-V buttons, 
 inadvertently writing
 over the memory contents. Pressing the V-M button while it 
 is locked
 would produce an audible beep and the text message unlock V-M

Nice idea Brian, a kind of senior interlock.

Meanwhile, I've taken the very simple but surprisingly effective measure of 
colouring the V-M
button red with a marker pen.  I now think twice before pressing it.  Usually.

I've also managed to delete the contents of a memory accidentally, more than 
once, by trying to
escape from the memory entry mode having ignored the red.  Hitting the CLR 
button doesn't just
cancel the memory entry mode, it clears the memory, as it is supposed to do 
according to the manual.
Maybe the K3 should require a double-press or hold of the CLR button to clear a 
memory?  

73  merry Christmas all,
Gary  ZL2iFB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Brian,

Concentrate on the labels below the buttons - VM is RECord while MV is 
PLAY - that helps keep my head 'screwed on right'.
You may get the lockout sometime, but that is not now.

73,
Don W3FPR

Brian Machesney wrote:
 I would like to be able to lock the V-M front panel key.

 In what must surely be the latest evidence of my brain's declining function,
 I constantly confound the V-M and M-V buttons, inadvertently writing
 over the memory contents. Pressing the V-M button while it is locked
 would produce an audible beep and the text message unlock V-M
   

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Mike
How about a webpage listing the features(non-prioritized from your 
standpoint)? With the ability to add to it, and maybe vote on the requests?

I love surprises(wlll mostly).

73, Mike NF4L

Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Hi all,

 As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and  
 improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested  
 changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the  
 demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:  
 switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with  
 PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,  
 and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to  
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for  
 specific operating situations.

 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software  
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3  
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
 developers and work with them closely.

 We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new  
 products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)

 73,
 Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Bill W4ZV

I'm a heavy user of diversity (99.9% of the time).  I have many different RX
antennas which have differing amounts of gain.  For diversity to work
correctly, I need both antennas to present the same RF levels to both
receivers.  I can make gross adjustments with ATT/PRE, but for fine tuning I
would like to adjust RF Gain with a single fader (balance) control as has
been implemented with SUB AF for AF Gain, instead of having to adjust the
concentric RF Gain knobs.

Page 59 of the manual:

SUB AF - If set to BALANCE, then the SUB AF GAIN control becomes a main/sub
AF
balance control when the sub receiver is turned on (including diversity
mode). In
this case MAIN AF GAIN controls the AF gain level for both receivers. When
SUB AF is at 12 o’ clock, both receivers will be at full volume (main left,
sub
right). If SUB AF is rotated fully counter-clockwise, you’ll hear only the
main
receiver. If it’s rotated fully clockwise, you’ll hear only the sub
receiver. At
intermediate settings you’ll hear both. A balance control is very useful for
contesting and split operation. But it can also save a lot of AF gain
control
adjustment (i.e., matching main and sub), since MAIN AF controls both main
and
sub receiver audio.

Please consider a SUB RF menu option for balancing RF Gain.

73  Merry Christmas!

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Julian, G4ILO

A command to get decoded CW, PSK31 and RTTY text into a computer program
while CAT is enabled (in other words, something better than TT1.)

Support for upper and lower case when sending PSK31 using the internal modem
and computer generated text.

Per-mode equalization.

A discriminator meter for netting FM signals, using the CWT indicator.

Support for PC memory management software (direct access to memories.)

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* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Ian Maude
I would love to see 3 things...

1) Receive EQ by mode
2) Monitor on the KDVR to not be in the TX chain
3) Decent Memory management

Anything else is a bonus but those are my wishes for 2010 :)

Seasons greetings to all the gang at Aptos!

73 Ian

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2009/12/23 Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com

 Hi all,

 As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and
 improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested
 changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the
 demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:
 switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with
 PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,
 and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for
 specific operating situations.

 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the
 developers and work with them closely.

 We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new
 products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)

 73,
 Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread PA3CW

Hi Wayne and Elecraft team,

First of all a bit thank you for the fun I had with the K3 over the last
year, including all the software changes and the involvement of all of us in
the new developments of the K3.  I must say this is outstanding and what
puts Elecraft on a different level than any other manufacturer i the market.
This must have had consequenses of increased market share and results of
Elecraft as a company and I hope the company keeps this position of
excellence.  That is what makes a difference from a good and a great
company.

As for future developments and wishes, the challenge lays in not listening
only to the one that makes the biggest noise but to the community as a
whole.  Some kinde of internet ' poll'  would help for sure. 
The frequency of new releases, about once a month,  is perfect to me.

Also it may be an idea to adress certain users directly by e-mail to ask for
input.  Anyway, it is the discretion of Elecraft to prioritize what to do
first.

I wish the team a very Merry X-mas and look forward to 2010hope there is
still time to ship my XV144 before the end of the year :)

Dick PA3CW

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread W4GRJ

Wayne,

Even though I am a brand new K3 owner (received last week), we really need a
software program to manage memories. Need to read and write to the K3, freq,
mode, offset for fm repeater work

This is really basic to radios I have had for over 5 years….anyway, hope
this makes the priority list.

Thanks for a great Radio!
Jack
W4GRJ




wayne burdick wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and  
 improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested  
 changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the  
 demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:  
 switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with  
 PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,  
 and many enhanced remote-control commands.)
 
 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to  
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for  
 specific operating situations.
 
 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software  
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3  
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
 developers and work with them closely.
 
 We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new  
 products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Steve Ellington
One Request:
Make sidetone adjustable without producing the tone and so you can do it 
when sending like any other rig.

It's hard to change sidetone when in QSO. The tone covers up the other 
station! I should be able to continue keying and not kill the adjust pot. 
It's simply a mess the way it is now. 73
Steve
N4LQ
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software


 Hi all,

 As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and
 improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested
 changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the
 demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:
 switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with
 PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,
 and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for
 specific operating situations.

 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the
 developers and work with them closely.

 We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new
 products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)

 73,
 Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Any chance we could see the list?  Simply choosing those that are high
on our list might help to firm up the various items.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and
 improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested
 changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the
 demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:
 switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with
 PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,
 and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for
 specific operating situations.

 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the
 developers and work with them closely.

 We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new
 products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
SWR Meter Peak Hold on SSB
Improved SWR Accuracy


73,
Dick - KA5KKT

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Barry N1EU

To address the limited display area of the K3, I'd like to see a simple pc
application that will present a virtual K3 display on the computer screen
and provide full-time display of:

shift (numeric)
width (numeric)
power
compression
mic gain
sub preamp
sub antenna selection
sub shift
sub width
AF Limit
AGC hold
AGC DCY
AGC SLP
AGC THR

(meant to be display-only and not to change settings, to be used in
conjunction with LP-Bridge so that the CAT port can be shared with other
applications)

73,
Barry N1EU



wayne burdick wrote:
 
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 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3  
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
 developers and work with them closely.
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Craig Smith

Two items here:

RX EQ by mode - or at least one separate setting for CW!

Build as much flexibility and functionality as humanly possible into the P3, 
even if much of it is optional.  Perhaps the last near-term opportunity to add 
major hardware to the K3 and provide extra switches and operator interface 
capabilities.

Thanks for a GREAT product!   Happy holidays and 73.

... Craig  AC0DS



-Original Message-
From: W4GRJ [w4...@satterfield.org]
Date: 23/12/2009 11:41 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software


Wayne,

Even though I am a brand new K3 owner (received last week), we really need a
software program to manage memories. Need to read and write to the K3, freq,
mode, offset for fm repeater work

This is really basic to radios I have had for over 5 years….anyway, hope
this makes the priority list.

Thanks for a great Radio!
Jack
W4GRJ




wayne burdick wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and  
 improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested  
 changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the  
 demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:  
 switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with  
 PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,  
 and many enhanced remote-control commands.)
 
 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to  
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for  
 specific operating situations.
 
 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software  
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3  
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
 developers and work with them closely.
 
 We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new  
 products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread pd0psb

To keep it as brief as possible:

-RX EQ per mode, so every mode can be tailored (and we will never get into
noise threads again :-)
-European 144/430 FM step raster support 6.25 and 12.5 kHz (With the K144XV
in mind)
-Memory editor utility and 50(?) more memories (also with the K144XV in
mind)

Some less secrecy about The List would be very welcome. May be a periodic
report of things-on-the-horizon,or an overview of priorities. This might
take some excess heat of reflector...

Have a very merry Xmas and all the best wishes for the Elecraft team in an
undoubtedly exiting 2010!

73'
Paul
PD0PSB



As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to  
use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for  
specific operating situations.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Doug Joyce
Wayne:  Please take a look at and correct the power output discontinuity as 
the PWR adjust is changed from 12 to 13.  Further details of actual 
power ouput sent to Gary (in support) 22 Nov/09 with request that he cc to 
you.

Thanks  looking forward to the P3.

Seasons Greetings to all

73,  Doug  VE3MV
K3/100 s/n 2432

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread K6LE
In my short time ( 2 weeks )  with this wonderful radio I have had several 
wow, look at this! moments on most days.

The one feature that I have come to wish for, so far, is the ability to have 
two or three TX Equalizer set ups and the ability to make comparisons by 
switching quickly from a set profile and back to Flat.  Also, using a couple 
of different mics and or modes would be easier with profiles perhaps modeled 
after the band width/shift Norm, Norm 1 and Norm 2  system.

BTW, Wayne, thanks for asking!

I hope everyone has a great Holiday season and finds plenty of time to play 
radio,

Rick
K6LE


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread John W2XS

Both the KX1 and the K3 announcements were real surprises to me. They
certainly were well-kept secrets. 

The K3 built-in keyer is very good as it is, but I miss the automatic
character spacing of my favorite external keyers (CMOS Super Keyer,
Logikeyers, Accukeyers, etc.). As a CW operator, I would love to see that
feature on the list.

Thanks and 73,

John W2XS

This is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
missing or could be improved.  There will be some surprises in 2010 :)




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Georgens, Tom
Outstanding suggestion.  I would second this one. Even better if we
could change the settings

73, Tom W2SC 8P5A

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From: Barry N1EU [mailto:barry.n...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 11:10 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software


To address the limited display area of the K3, I'd like to see a simple
pc
application that will present a virtual K3 display on the computer
screen
and provide full-time display of:

shift (numeric)
width (numeric)
power
compression
mic gain
sub preamp
sub antenna selection
sub shift
sub width
AF Limit
AGC hold
AGC DCY
AGC SLP
AGC THR

(meant to be display-only and not to change settings, to be used in
conjunction with LP-Bridge so that the CAT port can be shared with other
applications)

73,
Barry N1EU



wayne burdick wrote:
 
 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software  
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3

 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
 developers and work with them closely.
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function?  Instead of a
contest logger?

Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Georgens, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 11:55 AM
To: Barry N1EU; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Outstanding suggestion.  I would second this one. Even better if we
could change the settings

73, Tom W2SC 8P5A

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From: Barry N1EU [mailto:barry.n...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 11:10 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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software


To address the limited display area of the K3, I'd like to see a simple
pc
application that will present a virtual K3 display on the computer
screen
and provide full-time display of:

shift (numeric)
width (numeric)
power
compression
mic gain
sub preamp
sub antenna selection
sub shift
sub width
AF Limit
AGC hold
AGC DCY
AGC SLP
AGC THR

(meant to be display-only and not to change settings, to be used in
conjunction with LP-Bridge so that the CAT port can be shared with other
applications)

73,
Barry N1EU



wayne burdick wrote:
 
 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software  
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3

 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
 developers and work with them closely.
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 
 Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function?  Instead of a
 contest logger?
 

Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?

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* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Would the loggers object to receiving responses to commands that they didn't
issue?

Dick, K6KR



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
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Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 
 Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function?  Instead of a
 contest logger?
 

Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?

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* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Dave Hachadorian
As previously reported:

1. Eliminate power transients when transmitting FSK-D.

2. Raise threshold on AF Limiter to prevent gross distortion when 
receiving CW with AGC OFF.

Thanks for listening, and Merry Christmas to all!

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ

























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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Bryan, ZL1NI
Yes!
I don't use the K3 internal keyer for exactly that reason.

Bryan, Zl1NI

 ..
 The K3 built-in keyer is very good as it is, but I miss the
 automatic
 character spacing of my favorite external keyers (CMOS Super Keyer,
 Logikeyers, Accukeyers, etc.). As a CW operator, I would love to see
 that
 feature on the list.
 
 Thanks and 73,
 
 John W2XS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
- Main and Sub Rx audiomix:
  Leftchannel  - 100% main and 50% sub  and 
  Rightchannel - 100% sub and 50% main 

- Bring Notch filter inside AGC-loop (or partly inside)

- P3 point and click to change freq with a usb-MOUSE


Thanks
73
Arie PA3A

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Grant Youngman
I'e been using the same (now old)  homebrew Accu-keyer with auto character 
spacing since the articles were originally published in QST.  I'm so used to 
the timing, it's hard to send decent CW otherwise.  Except with a Lightning 
Bug, although some may not consider the swing decent :-)

It would be a nice-to-have feature.  I've ever used the internal keyer on any 
radio I've owned since they are generally a featureless afterthought included 
to put another checkmark on somebody's list.  

Grant/NQ5T


On Dec 23, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Bryan, ZL1NI wrote:

 Yes!
 I don't use the K3 internal keyer for exactly that reason.
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Gary, W7TEA

I would love to see separate volume adjustments for Spot and Sidetone. 

Happy Holidays to all!

73, Gary W7TEA




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
For external amplifier and external high power auto-tuner use, I'd like to 
see the followiong:

1)  External ground that automatically puts the K3 into a low power CW tune 
mode.  This is normally a command from an external auto-tuner that comes 
after an amplifier.

2)  When the low power tune mode input is externally supplied (from a remote 
autotuner), you should have the option of disabling the amp-key output of 
the K3 since you want to tune your autotuner with low power.  This is not 
necessary with some autotuners.  As an example, you can pass the amp-key 
from the K3 thru the MFJ-998 and the MFJ-998 unkeys the amp for you before 
it starts to tune.  But other autotuners (like the LDG AT1000PRO) don't have 
this feature.

3)  Power level saved per antenna per band.  I have my amplifier set up on 
ANT2, since my amp doesn't have 6 meters.  This way I can operate barefoot 
on ANT1 thru 6 meters.  When I put the amp in-line I use ANT2.  If the power 
could be saved differently on ANT2, then I could properly set the amp drive 
per band and it would always be correct.


73,
Phil - AD5X 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Dick Green WC1M
Dick,

LP-Bridge acts as a traffic cop that allows multiple programs to share the
K3 COM port without interfering with each other. It opens the K3 COM port
and sends various commands to obtain a continous flow of commonly-sought
status information. It intercepts status commands from multiple programs
attached to virtual COM ports and routes the appropriate status information
to them. When a program sends a command to the K3 that elicits a specific
reponse, the response is sent back to that program only.

73, Dick WC1M

 -Original Message-
 From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:die...@comcast.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:35 PM
 To: 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software
 
 Would the loggers object to receiving responses to commands that they
didn't
 issue?
 
 Dick, K6KR
 
 
 
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 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software
 
 
 
 
 Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 
  Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function?  Instead of a
  contest logger?
 
 
 Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?
 
 -
 Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
 * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
 * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
 * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Dick Dievendorff
If one program opens a menu, and another program sends a VFO UP command,
is the second program's UP command deferred somehow because the first
program has a menu open?

If one program sends a frequency change command, will the second program be
aware of that new frequency without polling? 

My point is that the programs must cooperate, and that's not always
possible. 

Dick


-Original Message-
From: Dick Green WC1M [mailto:wc1...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:31 PM
To: 'Dick Dievendorff'; 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Dick,

LP-Bridge acts as a traffic cop that allows multiple programs to share the
K3 COM port without interfering with each other. It opens the K3 COM port
and sends various commands to obtain a continous flow of commonly-sought
status information. It intercepts status commands from multiple programs
attached to virtual COM ports and routes the appropriate status information
to them. When a program sends a command to the K3 that elicits a specific
reponse, the response is sent back to that program only.

73, Dick WC1M

 -Original Message-
 From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:die...@comcast.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:35 PM
 To: 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software
 
 Would the loggers object to receiving responses to commands that they
didn't
 issue?
 
 Dick, K6KR
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software
 
 
 
 
 Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 
  Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function?  Instead of a
  contest logger?
 
 
 Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?
 
 -
 Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
 * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
 * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
 * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Dick Green WC1M
My wish is to be able to change any setting while transmitting. Most
important, I would like to be able to change Width, Shift, Hi, Lo, RIT/XIT,
RIT/XIT on/off, and RIT/XIT CLR. I'd also like to be able to change EQ, VOX
and AGC parameters, though those are less important.

73, Dick WC1M

 -Original Message-
 From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:02 PM
 To: Elecraft Reflector; elecr...@yahoogroups.com;
elecraft...@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software
 
 Hi all,
 
 As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and
 improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested
 changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the
 demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:
 switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with
 PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,
 and many enhanced remote-control commands.)
 
 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for
 specific operating situations.
 
 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the
 developers and work with them closely.
 
 We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new
 products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread WW2PT
1. Restore the full range of SHIFT while in 10 Hz resolution  
(currently limited to 1.28 to 1.72 kHz) to match the range while set  
to 50 Hz steps (0.05 to 2.60 kHz).

2. Increase power output to around 800W by means of some sort of  
external add-on device. :-)

Merry Christmas!
Paul WW2PT



On Dec 23, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

 Hi all,

 As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and
 improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested
 changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the
 demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:
 switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with
 PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,
 and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for
 specific operating situations.

 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the
 developers and work with them closely.

 We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new
 products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread AD6XY


There is a lot here about the K3 firmware tweaks - so I will address the
other sides of Wayne's question. 

Application software - I have a KRC2 and I would like it to know the
difference between 6m and 10m. In fact it would be nice to get away from the
fixed bands per relay and instead map bands and potentially sub-bands to
relays via the utility. The new KRC2 firmware can apparently manage this but
unfortunately the KRC2 setting utility can not yet program it. It would be
great to have an update to that.

Not asked but new hardware - how about a multiple antenna output board
without an ATU? Especially for those of us using HF and 6m beams. The IC7000
has 4 antenna sockets. The K3 has 1.

Please can we have an XV70 transverter? Many more Eu states are getting 4m. 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Dick Green WC1M
Not sure exactly what you're describing in the first example, but I believe
the answer is that the commands are serialized. I'm not sure just how clever
LP-Bridge may be about deferring or discarding commands that can't be
executed because the rig is in a state that prevents it. This probably
happens all the time, without LP-Bridge, when the rig is transmitting and
the logger wants to change some parameter that can't be changed during
transmit. The command is essentially ignored in that case.

The second example is straightforward. If a program sends a frequency change
command, the second program won't be aware of it unless it polls or sends an
appropriate status query command. But this is no different from the scenario
where the user manually twirls the VFO dial. That's why most programs that
need frequency information either poll or issue commands to get status when
it's needed.

73, Dick WC1M

 -Original Message-
 From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:die...@comcast.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:38 PM
 To: wc1...@gmail.com; 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software
 
 If one program opens a menu, and another program sends a VFO UP command,
 is the second program's UP command deferred somehow because the first
 program has a menu open?
 
 If one program sends a frequency change command, will the second program
be
 aware of that new frequency without polling?
 
 My point is that the programs must cooperate, and that's not always
 possible.
 
 Dick
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dick Green WC1M [mailto:wc1...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:31 PM
 To: 'Dick Dievendorff'; 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software
 
 Dick,
 
 LP-Bridge acts as a traffic cop that allows multiple programs to share the
 K3 COM port without interfering with each other. It opens the K3 COM port
 and sends various commands to obtain a continous flow of commonly-sought
 status information. It intercepts status commands from multiple programs
 attached to virtual COM ports and routes the appropriate status
information
 to them. When a program sends a command to the K3 that elicits a specific
 reponse, the response is sent back to that program only.
 
 73, Dick WC1M
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:die...@comcast.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:35 PM
  To: 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
 software
 
  Would the loggers object to receiving responses to commands that they
 didn't
  issue?
 
  Dick, K6KR
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
  Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:28 PM
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
 software
 
 
 
 
  Dick Dievendorff wrote:
  
   Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function?  Instead of
a
   contest logger?
  
 
  Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?
 
  -
  Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
  * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
  * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
  * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Wayne Burdick
I don't think all such cases can handled in reality. Programs doing  
menu manipulation should capture the full attention of the radio. The  
user should be instructed to turn everything else off in this case.

Wayne


http://www.elecraft.com

On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net  
wrote:

 If one program opens a menu, and another program sends a VFO UP  
 command,
 is the second program's UP command deferred somehow because the first
 program has a menu open?

 If one program sends a frequency change command, will the second  
 program be
 aware of that new frequency without polling?

 My point is that the programs must cooperate, and that's not always
 possible.

 Dick


 -Original Message-
 From: Dick Green WC1M [mailto:wc1...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:31 PM
 To: 'Dick Dievendorff'; 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application  
 software

 Dick,

 LP-Bridge acts as a traffic cop that allows multiple programs to  
 share the
 K3 COM port without interfering with each other. It opens the K3 COM  
 port
 and sends various commands to obtain a continous flow of commonly- 
 sought
 status information. It intercepts status commands from multiple  
 programs
 attached to virtual COM ports and routes the appropriate status  
 information
 to them. When a program sends a command to the K3 that elicits a  
 specific
 reponse, the response is sent back to that program only.

 73, Dick WC1M

 -Original Message-
 From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:die...@comcast.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:35 PM
 To: 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
 software

 Would the loggers object to receiving responses to commands that they
 didn't
 issue?

 Dick, K6KR



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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
 software




 Dick Dievendorff wrote:

 Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function?  Instead  
 of a
 contest logger?


 Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?

 -
 Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
 * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
 * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
 * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I agree.  Several subset cases can be shared within the scope of LP-Bridge's
virtualization of the K3.  I just don't know where the edge is...  Opening a
menu is perhaps not something you'd want to do with multiple applications
running.

Dick


-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:21 PM
To: Dick Dievendorff
Cc: wc1...@gmail.com; Julian, G4ILO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

I don't think all such cases can handled in reality. Programs doing  
menu manipulation should capture the full attention of the radio. The  
user should be instructed to turn everything else off in this case.

Wayne


http://www.elecraft.com

On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net  
wrote:

 If one program opens a menu, and another program sends a VFO UP  
 command,
 is the second program's UP command deferred somehow because the first
 program has a menu open?

 If one program sends a frequency change command, will the second  
 program be
 aware of that new frequency without polling?

 My point is that the programs must cooperate, and that's not always
 possible.

 Dick


 -Original Message-
 From: Dick Green WC1M [mailto:wc1...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:31 PM
 To: 'Dick Dievendorff'; 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application  
 software

 Dick,

 LP-Bridge acts as a traffic cop that allows multiple programs to  
 share the
 K3 COM port without interfering with each other. It opens the K3 COM  
 port
 and sends various commands to obtain a continous flow of commonly- 
 sought
 status information. It intercepts status commands from multiple  
 programs
 attached to virtual COM ports and routes the appropriate status  
 information
 to them. When a program sends a command to the K3 that elicits a  
 specific
 reponse, the response is sent back to that program only.

 73, Dick WC1M

 -Original Message-
 From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:die...@comcast.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:35 PM
 To: 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
 software

 Would the loggers object to receiving responses to commands that they
 didn't
 issue?

 Dick, K6KR



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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
 software




 Dick Dievendorff wrote:

 Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function?  Instead  
 of a
 contest logger?


 Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?

 -
 Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
 * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
 * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
 * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Julian Moss
Perhaps the solution is to make it possible to obtain information
about the state of things that an operator might want to change
without having to open a menu?

Barry asked for some specific information to be displayed on-screen.
He was not even requesting the ability to change those items from the
computer. Perhaps there could be an extra information command that
reported the current state of various settings that are not displayed
on the K3 screen but which an operator can readily change and would
want to check on? I'm not sure why he wanted to see AGC configuration
settings as I would not consider those to be something that is
normally changed during operation. Many operators probably never
change those settings.

On 23/12/2009, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net wrote:
 I agree.  Several subset cases can be shared within the scope of LP-Bridge's
 virtualization of the K3.  I just don't know where the edge is...  Opening a
 menu is perhaps not something you'd want to do with multiple applications
 running.

-- 
Julian, G4ILO
G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Barry asked for the ability to display AGC parameters.  These values are
currently read by accessing menus and reading them from the VFO A display
area.  During that menu access, another application might send an UP or DN
command, which could change one of the AGC parameters.  That's my only
point.  New single-command queries could solve that particular issue.

I don't know the list of K3 commands that LP-Bridge blocks. I don't know how
LP-Bridge uses its knowledge of what one application is doing to influence
the commands permitted by another.  I'm using the TelepostInc.com LPB html
help page as my source of info on what LP-Bridge does.

LP-Bridge offers a useful subset of the K3 Command set to many applications.
But it's the LP-Bridge virtualization that these applications see, and
that's different from the K3 programmer's reference command set.  This is a
very useful subset, but arguably insufficient for the requested application.

Dick, K6KR




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Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:40 PM
To: Dick Dievendorff
Cc: Wayne Burdick; wc1...@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Perhaps the solution is to make it possible to obtain information
about the state of things that an operator might want to change
without having to open a menu?

Barry asked for some specific information to be displayed on-screen.
He was not even requesting the ability to change those items from the
computer. Perhaps there could be an extra information command that
reported the current state of various settings that are not displayed
on the K3 screen but which an operator can readily change and would
want to check on? I'm not sure why he wanted to see AGC configuration
settings as I would not consider those to be something that is
normally changed during operation. Many operators probably never
change those settings.

On 23/12/2009, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net wrote:
 I agree.  Several subset cases can be shared within the scope of
LP-Bridge's
 virtualization of the K3.  I just don't know where the edge is...  Opening
a
 menu is perhaps not something you'd want to do with multiple applications
 running.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Julian Moss
Yes. I don't know why he asked for that. Perhaps he would care to say
why it would be useful? I don't think that many people would want that
information on display in real time so I wouldn't expect that
developers would rush to provide a display that showed AGC parameters
anyway.

Applications should not be accessing menus unless they are
configuration tools which should not be used while loggers and other
software is running. If developers find a need to access menus in
their applications for reasons other than configuration, it could
indicate there is a need for a command that could directly access that
information.

On 23/12/2009, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net wrote:
 Barry asked for the ability to display AGC parameters.  These values are
 currently read by accessing menus and reading them from the VFO A display
 area.  During that menu access, another application might send an UP or DN
 command, which could change one of the AGC parameters.  That's my only
 point.  New single-command queries could solve that particular issue.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Dick Green WC1M
Julian Moss G4ILO wrote:

 If developers find a need to access menus in
 their applications for reasons other than configuration, it could
 indicate there is a need for a command that could directly access that
 information.

I couldn't agree more.

73, Dick WC1M


 -Original Message-
 From: Julian Moss [mailto:julian.g4...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:08 PM
 To: Dick Dievendorff
 Cc: Wayne Burdick; wc1...@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software
 
 Yes. I don't know why he asked for that. Perhaps he would care to say
 why it would be useful? I don't think that many people would want that
 information on display in real time so I wouldn't expect that
 developers would rush to provide a display that showed AGC parameters
 anyway.
 
 Applications should not be accessing menus unless they are
 configuration tools which should not be used while loggers and other
 software is running. If developers find a need to access menus in
 their applications for reasons other than configuration, it could
 indicate there is a need for a command that could directly access that
 information.
 
 On 23/12/2009, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net wrote:
  Barry asked for the ability to display AGC parameters.  These values are
  currently read by accessing menus and reading them from the VFO A
display
  area.  During that menu access, another application might send an UP or
DN
  command, which could change one of the AGC parameters.  That's my only
  point.  New single-command queries could solve that particular issue.
 
 --
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 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Wes Stewart
Rather than call this by a term that might be confusing let me explain how my 
other radio works and suggest that the K3 have an option for the same.

In my TS-870 I can set sub-band limits for mode.  For example, from 14.000 to 
14.150 the mode defaults to CW.  If I tune above 14.150 the radio switches to 
USB.  If I step back to 14.150 or below, it's back to CW.

Of course I can manually override this in cases like when a DX station is on 
SSB working split on 40-meters and he's in the U.S. CW band.

Wes  N7WS

--- On Wed, 12/23/09, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net, elecr...@yahoogroups.com, 
elecraft...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 11:02 AM

Hi all,

As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and  
improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested  
changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the  
demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:  
switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with  
PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,  
and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to  
use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for  
specific operating situations.

We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software  
developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3  
firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
developers and work with them closely.

We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new  
products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Barry N1EU

My list of displayed parameters was just a first proposal.  If AGC params
can't be displayed because of the command set implementation, then we can
shorten the list I suppose.

As far as why I'd want to display AGC hold, DCY, SLP and THR - these are
dynamic settings that I want to change depending on my operation (SP vs
running, etc) and on condx.  I'm sure many operators would want the ability
to display these without digging into the menu.  It seems like programming
could easily accomplish this with a nifty onscreen display taking up perhaps
5-10% of the monitor's screen.  And it could be configurable so you'd
display just the set of parameters YOU want to see; i.e., leave off AGC if
you don't want to see it.

73,
Barry N1EU

proposed:
shift (numeric) 
width (numeric) 
power 
compression 
mic gain 
sub preamp 
sub antenna selection 
sub shift 
sub width 
AF Limit 
AGC hold 
AGC DCY 
AGC SLP 
AGC THR



Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 
 Barry asked for the ability to display AGC parameters.  These values are
 currently read by accessing menus and reading them from the VFO A display
 area.  During that menu access, another application might send an UP or DN
 command, which could change one of the AGC parameters.  That's my only
 point.  New single-command queries could solve that particular issue.
 
 I don't know the list of K3 commands that LP-Bridge blocks. I don't know
 how
 LP-Bridge uses its knowledge of what one application is doing to influence
 the commands permitted by another.  I'm using the TelepostInc.com LPB html
 help page as my source of info on what LP-Bridge does.
 
 LP-Bridge offers a useful subset of the K3 Command set to many
 applications.
 But it's the LP-Bridge virtualization that these applications see, and
 that's different from the K3 programmer's reference command set.  This is
 a
 very useful subset, but arguably insufficient for the requested
 application.
 
 Dick, K6KR
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Julian Moss [mailto:julian.g4...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:40 PM
 To: Dick Dievendorff
 Cc: Wayne Burdick; wc1...@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
 software
 
 Perhaps the solution is to make it possible to obtain information
 about the state of things that an operator might want to change
 without having to open a menu?
 
 Barry asked for some specific information to be displayed on-screen.
 He was not even requesting the ability to change those items from the
 computer. Perhaps there could be an extra information command that
 reported the current state of various settings that are not displayed
 on the K3 screen but which an operator can readily change and would
 want to check on? I'm not sure why he wanted to see AGC configuration
 settings as I would not consider those to be something that is
 normally changed during operation. Many operators probably never
 change those settings.
 
 On 23/12/2009, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net wrote:
 I agree.  Several subset cases can be shared within the scope of
 LP-Bridge's
 virtualization of the K3.  I just don't know where the edge is... 
 Opening
 a
 menu is perhaps not something you'd want to do with multiple applications
 running.

 -- 
 Julian, G4ILO
 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
 missing or could be improved.

1) Implementation of Yaesu-style VFO/Sub RX/Audio Mixer control: 

  Left   Right 
 FR0   VFO A/Main  VFO A/Main  ; normal 
 FR1   VFO A/Main  VFO A/Sub Rx; diversity 
 FR2   VFO A/Main  VFO B/Sub Rx; dual 
 FR3   VFO B/Sub RxVFO B/Sub Rx; transceive B  

 FR number/level appears as the v byte in the IF status. 

2) Eliminate the prohibition against using the FM filter for 
   AM/ESSB transmit. 

3) Monitor level by mode and by headphones/speakers 

4) Set/Get for TX EQ and RX EQ to allow directly reading/setting 
   all 8 bands are one time). 

5) SL/SL$; and SH/SH$; to allow direct Set/Get of LO cut and 
   HI cut frequencies. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


 



 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:02 PM
 To: Elecraft Reflector; elecr...@yahoogroups.com; 
 elecraft...@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and 
 application software
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and  
 improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested  
 changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace 
 with the  
 demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:  
 switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with  
 PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,  
 and many enhanced remote-control commands.)
 
 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to  
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for  
 specific operating situations.
 
 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software  
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to 
 both K3  
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
 developers and work with them closely.
 
 We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new  
 products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 I don't think all such cases can handled in reality. Programs doing  
 menu manipulation should capture the full attention of the 
 radio.

Menu manipulation should be minimized:  Add Set/Get commands for 
TX EQ and RX EQ, Time set, Date Set, Mic Select.  

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:21 PM
 To: Dick Dievendorff
 Cc: wc1...@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Julian,G4ILO
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and 
 application software
 
 
 I don't think all such cases can handled in reality. Programs doing  
 menu manipulation should capture the full attention of the 
 radio. The  
 user should be instructed to turn everything else off in this case.
 
 Wayne
 
 
 http://www.elecraft.com
 
 On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net  
 wrote:
 
  If one program opens a menu, and another program sends a VFO UP
  command,
  is the second program's UP command deferred somehow because 
 the first
  program has a menu open?
 
  If one program sends a frequency change command, will the second
  program be
  aware of that new frequency without polling?
 
  My point is that the programs must cooperate, and that's not always 
  possible.
 
  Dick
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dick Green WC1M [mailto:wc1...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:31 PM
  To: 'Dick Dievendorff'; 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
  software
 
  Dick,
 
  LP-Bridge acts as a traffic cop that allows multiple programs to
  share the
  K3 COM port without interfering with each other. It opens 
 the K3 COM  
  port
  and sends various commands to obtain a continous flow of commonly- 
  sought
  status information. It intercepts status commands from multiple  
  programs
  attached to virtual COM ports and routes the appropriate status  
  information
  to them. When a program sends a command to the K3 that elicits a  
  specific
  reponse, the response is sent back to that program only.
 
  73, Dick WC1M
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:die...@comcast.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:35 PM
  To: 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
  software
 
  Would the loggers object to receiving responses to 
 commands that they
  didn't
  issue?
 
  Dick, K6KR
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
 Julian, G4ILO
  Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:28 PM
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
  software
 
 
 
 
  Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 
  Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function?  Instead
  of a
  contest logger?
 
 
  Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?
 
  -
  Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
  * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
  * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
  * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 1)  External ground that automatically puts the K3 into a low 
 power CW tune mode.  This is normally a command from an external 
 auto-tuner that comes after an amplifier.

Agreed, with a configurable power level.  This would provide 
compatibility with the Yaesu Quadra TF function. 

Also a digital pulse output with the ATU Tune tap if the KAT3 is 
not installed or not enabled.  This would allow triggering the 
tune function in external auto-tuners (e.g., Icom AH-3 and AH-4). 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil  
 Debbie Salas
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:24 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and 
 application software
 
 
 For external amplifier and external high power auto-tuner 
 use, I'd like to 
 see the followiong:
 
 1)  External ground that automatically puts the K3 into a low 
 power CW tune 
 mode.  This is normally a command from an external auto-tuner 
 that comes 
 after an amplifier.
 
 2)  When the low power tune mode input is externally supplied 
 (from a remote 
 autotuner), you should have the option of disabling the 
 amp-key output of 
 the K3 since you want to tune your autotuner with low power.  
 This is not 
 necessary with some autotuners.  As an example, you can pass 
 the amp-key 
 from the K3 thru the MFJ-998 and the MFJ-998 unkeys the amp 
 for you before 
 it starts to tune.  But other autotuners (like the LDG 
 AT1000PRO) don't have 
 this feature.
 
 3)  Power level saved per antenna per band.  I have my 
 amplifier set up on 
 ANT2, since my amp doesn't have 6 meters.  This way I can 
 operate barefoot 
 on ANT1 thru 6 meters.  When I put the amp in-line I use 
 ANT2.  If the power 
 could be saved differently on ANT2, then I could properly set 
 the amp drive 
 per band and it would always be correct.
 
 
 73,
 Phil - AD5X 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Ignacy


1. NTCH within AGC
2. Manual NTCH narrower (like in IC-7000)
3. DUAL PB with adjustable Q so that it works closer to audio filters
(current Q mostly too low).  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread N8LP

Here are some answers to some of the questions posed about LP-Bridge
behavior...

1. LPB responds to all application GET commands from memory, without
passing the commands to the K3. This happens asynchronously from up to five
applications at the same time. Each application only sees responses to its
own queries, unless the user has checked the AI1 or AI2 options for that
virtual port.

2. LPB forces the K3 into AI2 and K31 meta modes. There are optional check
boxes for each virtual port to change the AI behavior on a per-application
basis, as mentioned above. Making adjustments at the K3 will not generate
commands to any application unless its virtual port has the AI1 or AI2
option checked. There is no provision for accommodating K30 meta-commands. 

3. The only commands that LPB allows to propagate to the K3 are SET
commands. Normally, this is not a problem, but there is a chance that two
applications could conflict in this regard when accessing menu data. This is
complicated by timing considerations. This should be a rare occurrence, but
I can see possible cases where it could be a problem. For instance, if a
program uses periodic VFO UP or DN commands to implement scanning and then a
second program starts a menu access operation during the scan. I would have
to think through all the combinations, but it seems that the operator's
limitation of only having one mouse and one free hand would limit the cases
where a problem could exist. 

4. LPB will not allow use of the K3 Utility through a virtual port for
safety reasons.

I am considering adding code to lock out SET commands from other virtual
ports once one app sends a MNnnn; command, until the MN255; command is sent.
This could cause other problems, though. It would be better if the UP/DN
commands associated with the menu functions could be changed to menu
specific special commands, like UPM and DNM, as opposed to using the regular
VFO UP/DN commands. This of course would become an issue with existing
programs.

73,
Larry N8LP




Barry asked for the ability to display AGC parameters.  These values are
currently read by accessing menus and reading them from the VFO A display
area.  During that menu access, another application might send an UP or DN
command, which could change one of the AGC parameters.  That's my only
point.  New single-command queries could solve that particular issue.

I don't know the list of K3 commands that LP-Bridge blocks. I don't know how
LP-Bridge uses its knowledge of what one application is doing to influence
the commands permitted by another.  I'm using the TelepostInc.com LPB html
help page as my source of info on what LP-Bridge does.

LP-Bridge offers a useful subset of the K3 Command set to many applications.
But it's the LP-Bridge virtualization that these applications see, and
that's different from the K3 programmer's reference command set.  This is a
very useful subset, but arguably insufficient for the requested application.

Dick, K6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Jim Miller
As another mentioned, a digital signal out when the ATU is uninstalled or
disabled and Tune is tapped to allow activation of an external tuner would
be very nice to have. I use a remote tuner (T1) at my antenna base and the
internal tuner in the K3 as well at times.

73

jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Jim Miller
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote:

 As another mentioned, a digital signal out when the ATU is uninstalled or
 disabled and Tune is tapped to allow activation of an external tuner would
 be very nice to have. I use a remote tuner (T1) at my antenna base and the
 internal tuner in the K3 as well at times.

 73

 jim ab3cv

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn

I'd second this one Dick!

Best Wishes for the Holidays to all!
73,
Julius


Dick Green WC1M-2 wrote:
 
 My wish is to be able to change any setting while transmitting. Most
 important, I would like to be able to change Width, Shift, Hi, Lo,
 RIT/XIT,
 RIT/XIT on/off, and RIT/XIT CLR. I'd also like to be able to change EQ,
 VOX
 and AGC parameters, though those are less important.
 
 73, Dick WC1M
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:02 PM
 To: Elecraft Reflector; elecr...@yahoogroups.com;
 elecraft...@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software
 
 Hi all,
 
 As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and
 improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested
 changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the
 demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:
 switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with
 PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,
 and many enhanced remote-control commands.)
 
 As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
 based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of
 course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is
 missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to
 use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for
 specific operating situations.
 
 We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software
 developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3
 firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the
 developers and work with them closely.
 
 We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new
 products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 
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Elecraft K3/100 #366
Elecraft K3#1875
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn

Application software - I have a KRC2 and I would like it to know the
difference between 6m and 10m. In fact it would be nice to get away from the
fixed bands per relay and instead map bands and potentially sub-bands to
relays via the utility. The new KRC2 firmware can apparently manage this but
unfortunately the KRC2 setting utility can not yet program it. It would be
great to have an update to that.

*** It would be nice to be able to say switch between LC networks when
moving from one end of 160 to the other. Of course, I would go for a remote
ATU from Elecraft too (nudge nudge wink wink)

Not asked but new hardware - how about a multiple antenna output board
without an ATU? Especially for those of us using HF and 6m beams. The IC7000
has 4 antenna sockets. The K3 has 1.

*** I'll second this too. Kit form would be great.

73,
Julius

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N2WN

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http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html

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http://www.tnqp.org/

Elecraft K2/100 #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366
Elecraft K3#1875
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Lee Buller


Boythe dam and broke  Spent the lats 45 minutes reading all this stuff.

Here is my very short list.

1.  Power control - Fine and Course  To many turns to get to the power I want.  
Especially driving an amp.  I think that others have talked about power control 
with amplifiers.  In my shack, I would like to set the output more quickly when 
I have the amp running.

2.  I would like to see a computer program that looks like the front of the K3 
with pull down menus for various or all the parameters.  There are some 
utilities out there that are close.  I would like to see pull down menus so an 
operator can change parameters quickly instead of going to the menus inside the 
radio.  It is more a convenience than a real operating issue.

3.  In reference to the above...it would also be nice to have files saved so 
that the K3 can be changed on a per operator basis for multi-op conditions.  
I know my hearing is not the same as the younger guys, so I have to change the 
EQ.

Now with all this said...there might be software out there that does that 
anyway, but I cannot keep up with the reflector as much as I want to.  There is 
a lot of information and opinion flying here...so I might a missed a thing or 
two.

Still - and excellent radio

Lee - K0WA
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread N2TK, Tony
Is there any way to setup the K3 utility through LP-Bridge to send macros
for the utility program to the K3 without having to close LP-Bridge then
starting the K3 utility program? I understand that you have to close the
LP-Bridge for downloading updates. I guess the same applies to the macros.
But thought I would ask.

73,
N2TK, Tony

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick Green WC1M
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:31 PM
To: 'Dick Dievendorff'; 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Dick,

LP-Bridge acts as a traffic cop that allows multiple programs to share the
K3 COM port without interfering with each other. It opens the K3 COM port
and sends various commands to obtain a continous flow of commonly-sought
status information. It intercepts status commands from multiple programs
attached to virtual COM ports and routes the appropriate status information
to them. When a program sends a command to the K3 that elicits a specific
reponse, the response is sent back to that program only.

73, Dick WC1M

 -Original Message-
 From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:die...@comcast.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:35 PM
 To: 'Julian, G4ILO'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software
 
 Would the loggers object to receiving responses to commands that they
didn't
 issue?
 
 Dick, K6KR
 
 
 
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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software
 
 
 
 
 Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 
  Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function?  Instead of a
  contest logger?
 
 
 Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?
 
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 Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
 * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
 * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
 * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread N2TK, Tony
Yes, and be able to select a different group of antennas using ANT1 and ANT2
on the K3 possibly using the DIGOUT1 signal tied into something like the
KRC2. Those who have say two antennas per band can select them from the
front panel of the K3 easily.

N2TK, Tony

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of AD6XY
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There is a lot here about the K3 firmware tweaks - so I will address the
other sides of Wayne's question. 

Application software - I have a KRC2 and I would like it to know the
difference between 6m and 10m. In fact it would be nice to get away from the
fixed bands per relay and instead map bands and potentially sub-bands to
relays via the utility. The new KRC2 firmware can apparently manage this but
unfortunately the KRC2 setting utility can not yet program it. It would be
great to have an update to that.

Not asked but new hardware - how about a multiple antenna output board
without an ATU? Especially for those of us using HF and 6m beams. The IC7000
has 4 antenna sockets. The K3 has 1.

Please can we have an XV70 transverter? Many more Eu states are getting 4m. 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread srife
Some of us are still awaiting the TWO BIG surprises. Got my fingers
crossed.


Stan Rife 
W5EWA 



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:02 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector; elecr...@yahoogroups.com;
elecraft...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Hi all,

As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and  
improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested  
changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the  
demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:  
switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with  
PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,  
and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to  
use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for  
specific operating situations.

We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software  
developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3  
firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
developers and work with them closely.

We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new  
products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

2009-12-23 Thread Philippe Trottet
Dear Eric and Wayne,
Considering all improvements done in 2009 it would be useful to update the K3 
user guide in order to have quick acces to all new parameters easily.
 
I take the oportunity to wish a merry Xmas and a very happy New Year 2010 to 
both of you and your really supportive team, all Elecrafters, especially in 
good health, and that all your wishes come true.
Best 73's
Philippe  
A65BI (F5LTB)...ex 9Q1TB  many exotic ones
 
K3#3616
* Elecraft, by Hams, for HamsWhat else !*

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elecraft...@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Hi all,

As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and  
improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested  
changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the  
demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:  
switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with  
PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,  
and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to  
use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for  
specific operating situations.

We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software  
developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3  
firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
developers and work with them closely.

We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new  
products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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