Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-30 Thread John Bohnovic
I can filter all of the Elecraft groups so that all of the messages from 
the different groups appear in one folder. I don't do that because I 
want them in separate folders.


I support having a separate K4 group.

73..de John/K4WJ

On 8/29/2020 11:57 AM, Tom Azlin W7SUA wrote:
I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not 
consider any of it as tying up this one.


Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line)

On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote:
More likely this information will come from us as we announce the 
various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the 
reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a 
lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership.


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-29 Thread Tom Azlin W7SUA
I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not 
consider any of it as tying up this one.


Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line)

On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote:

More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various 
stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, probably 
the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not of interest 
to the mass membership.

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-28 Thread Nr4c
No. They have no interest in doing this. 

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> On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:22 PM, Edward R Cole  wrote:
> 
> I'm not waiting as I did not order one, but...
> 
> Won't it be simpler for Elecraft to post this on a link from their website.  
> Those who want to know could access and management would be an addition for 
> the Elecraft webmaster to handle.
> 
> I have an extensive personal website and also manage a VHF club website (in 
> raw html code; no authoring sw).  No biggey!
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>  http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-28 Thread Edward R Cole

I'm not waiting as I did not order one, but...

Won't it be simpler for Elecraft to post this on a link from their 
website.  Those who want to know could access and management would be 
an addition for the Elecraft webmaster to handle.


I have an extensive personal website and also manage a VHF club 
website (in raw html code; no authoring sw).  No biggey!


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  http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-28 Thread Paul Van Dyke
Yes Alan

I am a member also, but I forgot also. I can't get wrapped up in a product
and go nuts, till it is on the bench.
And I was one of the early ones also, and all I am betting that was sold of
the K4 those 3 days was the "Full Meal Deal"

Paul  KB9AVO

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:06 PM Alan - G4GNX  wrote:

> What's the problem Steve? November is when I created the group. It's at:
> https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4
>
> Ring any bells? ;-)
>
> 73,
>
> Alan. G4GNX
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "stephen shearer" 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: 28/08/2020 16:26:37
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info
>
> >OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4  ??
> >https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least)
> November
> >
> >73, steve
> >
> >On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote:
> >>
> >>Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup
> specifically for the K4.
> >>
> >>I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by
> enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it
> is. ;-)
> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-28 Thread Alan - G4GNX
What's the problem Steve? November is when I created the group. It's at: 
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4


Ring any bells? ;-)

73,

Alan. G4GNX


-- Original Message --
From: "stephen shearer" 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 28/08/2020 16:26:37
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info


OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4  ??
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least) November

73, steve

On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote:


Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup 
specifically for the K4.

I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by enthusiasts. 
No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it is. ;-)



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-28 Thread stephen shearer

OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4  ??
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least) 
November


73, steve

On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote:


Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup 
specifically for the K4.


I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by 
enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it 
is. ;-)



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-28 Thread turnbull

Alan and friends please forgive me but I am a member of enough groups for 
different subjects.    I will stick to the Elecraft site and assume perhaps 
wrongly that Eric, Wayne and the gang will still support it.    I do have a K4 
on order and am commited.    There probably have been other forums for 
individual Elecraft products but I never visited them.    Everyone is entitled 
to make their own choices but for me this is the site for all K4 info.    I ask 
forgiveness for this stance.   It is just the gasp of an old geezer.   It is 
not my intent to offend but it seems better to say something now.Peace and 73 
Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Alan - G4GNX  Date: 
28/08/2020  11:34  (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft Reflector 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info I tried to 
send this yesterday, but it went astray. :-(Straight from the horse's mouth, so 
that there will be no rumors or doubt:I have the K3S-line and am interested in 
the K4. I do not have an order placed yet. I'm waiting until the kit 
availability is announced.Someone on another group suggested that there should 
be a group setup specifically for the K4.I responded by doing just that. It is 
a group for enthusiasts by enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for 
praise. It is what it is. ;-)I would ask new subscribers to be patient. As with 
most groups, your 1st message has to be approved, before you become 
unmoderated. There is a time difference of 5 - 8 hours between the USA and UK, 
so if you send your first  message whilst I'm asleep, it may be delayed. It's 
not personal. :-)The group has sporadic use, depending on information and 
questions on a daily basis. When a small announcement is made, there's usually 
a flurry of activity, which tails off until someone thinks of something else 
they want to discuss, or there's another announcement. Eric and Wayne monitor 
the group when they have time and they answer questions when they have answers. 
I think other Elecraft staff also keep a weather eye on it.I didn't setup the 
K4 group to take over from any Elecraft group, it's just to separate out K4 
traffic from any other Elecraft product, in response to a request from other 
prospective users.73,Alan. G4GNX>>-- Original Message -->From: "Nr4c" 
>To: "Skip Davis" >Cc: 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net>Sent: 28/08/2020 00:37:22>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 
shipping info>>>I don’t think the groups.io group here was setup by Elecraft 
for FTs>>I think it was setup by users like you and me especially to discuss K4 
stuff.>>>>Sent from my iPhone>>...nr4c. bill>>>>>>>  On Aug 27, 2020, at 7:08 
PM, Skip Davis via Elecraft  wrote:>>>>>>  Grant to 
respond to your reference to not needing another group that is true in some 
respect except the K4 group was probably setup for field testers and Elecraft 
communications only. Being a field tester for the K2 there was a lot of post to 
help improve the product before it was sold to the masses. We were the ones 
that tried to uncover the PC board problems and other such things that were 
initially found. Plus when you design a product you need someone else to 
evaluate it and use it in ways that don’t follow the design operational flow 
diagram you intended.>>>  Opening it up to all that are interested would 
clutter it with way too much unproductive chatter. Case in point is the number 
of posts generated when ever the K4 is mentioned.>>>>>>>>>  Skip Davis, NC9O>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-28 Thread Alan - G4GNX

I tried to send this yesterday, but it went astray. :-(

Straight from the horse's mouth, so that there will be no rumors or 
doubt:


I have the K3S-line and am interested in the K4. I do not have an order 
placed yet. I'm waiting until the kit availability is announced.


Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup 
specifically for the K4.


I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by 
enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it 
is. ;-)


I would ask new subscribers to be patient. As with most groups, your 1st 
message has to be approved, before you become unmoderated. There is a 
time difference of 5 - 8 hours between the USA and UK, so if you send 
your first  message whilst I'm asleep, it may be delayed. It's not 
personal. :-)


The group has sporadic use, depending on information and questions on a 
daily basis. When a small announcement is made, there's usually a flurry 
of activity, which tails off until someone thinks of something else they 
want to discuss, or there's another announcement. Eric and Wayne monitor 
the group when they have time and they answer questions when they have 
answers. I think other Elecraft staff also keep a weather eye on it.


I didn't setup the K4 group to take over from any Elecraft group, it's 
just to separate out K4 traffic from any other Elecraft product, in 
response to a request from other prospective users.


73,

Alan. G4GNX


-- Original Message --
From: "Nr4c" 
To: "Skip Davis" 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 28/08/2020 00:37:22
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info


I don’t think the groups.io group here was setup by Elecraft for FTs
I think it was setup by users like you and me especially to discuss K4 stuff.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



 On Aug 27, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Skip Davis via Elecraft 
 wrote:

 Grant to respond to your reference to not needing another group that is true 
in some respect except the K4 group was probably setup for field testers and 
Elecraft communications only. Being a field tester for the K2 there was a lot 
of post to help improve the product before it was sold to the masses. We were 
the ones that tried to uncover the PC board problems and other such things that 
were initially found. Plus when you design a product you need someone else to 
evaluate it and use it in ways that don’t follow the design operational flow 
diagram you intended.
 Opening it up to all that are interested would clutter it with way too much 
unproductive chatter. Case in point is the number of posts generated when ever 
the K4 is mentioned.


 Skip Davis, NC9O
 Sent from my iPad




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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-27 Thread Nr4c
I don’t think the groups.io group here was setup by Elecraft for FTs  
I think it was setup by users like you and me especially to discuss K4 stuff. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 27, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Skip Davis via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Grant to respond to your reference to not needing another group that is true 
> in some respect except the K4 group was probably setup for field testers and 
> Elecraft communications only. Being a field tester for the K2 there was a lot 
> of post to help improve the product before it was sold to the masses. We were 
> the ones that tried to uncover the PC board problems and other such things 
> that were initially found. Plus when you design a product you need someone 
> else to evaluate it and use it in ways that don’t follow the design 
> operational flow diagram you intended.
> Opening it up to all that are interested would clutter it with way too much 
> unproductive chatter. Case in point is the number of posts generated when 
> ever the K4 is mentioned.
> 
> 
> Skip Davis, NC9O 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-27 Thread Skip Davis via Elecraft
Grant to respond to your reference to not needing another group that is true in 
some respect except the K4 group was probably setup for field testers and 
Elecraft communications only. Being a field tester for the K2 there was a lot 
of post to help improve the product before it was sold to the masses. We were 
the ones that tried to uncover the PC board problems and other such things that 
were initially found. Plus when you design a product you need someone else to 
evaluate it and use it in ways that don’t follow the design operational flow 
diagram you intended.
Opening it up to all that are interested would clutter it with way too much 
unproductive chatter. Case in point is the number of posts generated when ever 
the K4 is mentioned.


Skip Davis, NC9O 
Sent from my iPad

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-27 Thread Nr4c
Yes. The Elecraft-K4 on Groups.io.  

And I would like to see posts of when you got notice of shipping, order date, 
delivery, and serial number. I think this could really clog up the regulars 
Ecraft reflector so suggested using the groups.io list.  

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:16 PM, David F. Reed  wrote:
> 
> What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A 
> different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know…
> 
> 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c  wrote:
>> 
>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various 
>> stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, 
>> probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not 
>> of interest to the mass membership. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-27 Thread David F. Reed
Thanks guys!

73 de W5SV - David F. Reed

> On Aug 26, 2020, at 22:43, Michael Gillen via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> I did a quick search and found “elecraft...@groups.io”

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-26 Thread Grant Youngman
PS.  Frankly, there’s no real reason for yet another group dedicated to one 
radio.  Many (most?)  of the posts to that group are replicated here.  And will 
have a wider audience of interested people here.

Too many groups, too little time to read them all ….

Grant NQ5T

> On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:37 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> There’s a K4 group on groups.io. There’s nothing specific to those in 
> shipping group 1. 
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-26 Thread Michael Gillen via Elecraft
I did a quick search and found “elecraft...@groups.io”


> On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:37 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> There’s a K4 group on groups.io. There’s nothing specific to those in 
> shipping group 1. 
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Paul Van Dyke  wrote:
>> 
>> David, I'm just going to hazard a guess. I believe is those of us that are
>> in the 1st wave of the K4 orders.
>> 
>> Paul  KB9AVO
>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 11:18 PM David F. Reed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A
>>> different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know…
>>> 
>>> 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed
>>> 
> On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c  wrote:
 
 More likely this information will come from us as we announce the
>>> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the
>>> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot
>>> of traffic not of interest to the mass membership.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 ...nr4c. bill
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-26 Thread Grant Youngman
There’s a K4 group on groups.io. There’s nothing specific to those in shipping 
group 1. 

Grant NQ5T

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Paul Van Dyke  wrote:
> 
> David, I'm just going to hazard a guess. I believe is those of us that are
> in the 1st wave of the K4 orders.
> 
> Paul  KB9AVO
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 11:18 PM David F. Reed  wrote:
>> 
>> What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A
>> different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know…
>> 
>> 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed
>> 
 On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c  wrote:
>>> 
>>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the
>> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the
>> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot
>> of traffic not of interest to the mass membership.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ...nr4c. bill
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-26 Thread Paul Van Dyke
David, I'm just going to hazard a guess. I believe is those of us that are
in the 1st wave of the K4 orders.

Paul  KB9AVO

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 11:18 PM David F. Reed  wrote:

> What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A
> different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know…
>
> 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed
>
> > On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c  wrote:
> >
> > More likely this information will come from us as we announce the
> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the
> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot
> of traffic not of interest to the mass membership.
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-26 Thread David F. Reed
What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A different 
email list? Inquiring minds would like to know…

73 de W5SV - David F. Reed

> On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various 
> stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, 
> probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not 
> of interest to the mass membership. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-26 Thread Nr4c
More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various 
stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, probably 
the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not of interest 
to the mass membership. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Ted Roycraft  wrote:
> 
> 
> When they do start shipping it would be very interesting if they publicize 
> the date that the shipped orders were placed. 
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:19 PM Nr4c  wrote:
>> Not the END yet!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But close. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Aug 26, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr  
>> > wrote:
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>> > 
>> 
>> > Howdy Gang.
>> 
>> > 
>> 
>> > Any news about K4 shipping?
>> 
>> > 
>> 
>> > Last I saw the K4 was gonna start shipping at the end of August.
>> 
>> > 
>> 
>> > Take and stay healthy.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-26 Thread Ted Roycraft
When they do start shipping it would be very interesting if they publicize
the date that the shipped orders were placed.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:19 PM Nr4c  wrote:

> Not the END yet!
>
>
>
> But close.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> ...nr4c. bill
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>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 26, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr 
> wrote:
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> >
>
> > Howdy Gang.
>
> >
>
> > Any news about K4 shipping?
>
> >
>
> > Last I saw the K4 was gonna start shipping at the end of August.
>
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Joe,

That was the goal, but consider that the fires may have impacted the 
schedule.

Shipping one on the last day of the month meets the qualification.
Be patient until Eric updates us.

Stay safe, and if you are in the Western states, stay away from the fires.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/26/2020 1:51 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr wrote:

Howdy Gang.

Any news about K4 shipping?

Last I saw the K4 was gonna start shipping at the end of August.

Take and stay healthy.

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

2020-08-26 Thread Nr4c
Not the END yet!

But close. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 26, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr  wrote:
> 
> Howdy Gang.
> 
> Any news about K4 shipping?
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> 
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> 
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