Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation

2012-12-26 Thread Brett Howard
i bought one a while back for about 70 bucks.  Its an IO Gear GUCE50.  I've
had varying success with it.  Currently I use it to extend my USB from my
media server into the living room to allow for connection of a IR
receiver.  For a while I was also using a USB to fiber optic sound card so
based on that I think that firmware updates would be acceptable.

In Linux I'd had some issues with the computer crashing and the dmesg log
actually stated that the USB stack blew up and it said "Possible EMI?".
However in Windows I'd never had any of these issues.  Once I changed my
antenna system up a bit I've had no issues what-so-ever even with 500 watts.

If you have any further questions feel free to ask.

~Brett


On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:

> You can retune to a prior memory setting by sending a serial command, MT
> ; where  is the frequency in kHz.
>
> But as you note, it requires a serial connection. But if you're not
> counting
> Tx frequency, you'd need some sort of connection to adjust the tuner...
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Larry Phipps
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:29 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation
>
> I have been reading some of the KAT500 traffic and thought I'd weigh in
> with
> my particular thoughts.
>
> One reason to have the tuner follow the VFO is that I would like to use the
> KAT500 for receive sometimes for SWL'ing or listening to BCB. In this case,
> I can't transmit, so it would be nice to have the tuner track the VFO.
>
> One option is to use the utility to manually select settings, but my
> KAT500 is remoted at the base of my antenna in a waterproof box. A USB
> cable
> of the required length is not feasible, but I am looking into using a
> wireless USB extender for the task. I already have some wireless
> RS232 serial extenders, but have never tried one for USB. The prices are
> all
> over the place. Does anyone have any experience with these devices, with or
> without the KAT500? Would they be safe for flashing firmware?
>
> Even with the utility connected, though, there doesn't appear to be any
> easy
> way to save setups based on names or frequencies. Maybe I've missed it
> since
> I'm not using the utility.
>
> 73,
> Larry N8LP
>
>
>
> On 12/25/2012 12:00 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:54:36 -0800
> > From: Wayne Burdick
> > To: ab2tc
> > Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation
> >   (including auxBus tradeoffs)
> > Message-ID:
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> >
> >
> > So what we're talking about now is whether it would be worth sending
> > frequency data from the K3 to the KAT500--at the time of keying--over
> > either the auxBus or the RS232 port. The answer, IMHO, is no. In
> > either case it would take approximately the same amount of time to
> > send the data as it would for the KAT500 to do RF sensing of the VFO
> > frequency.
> >
> > If someone has a better idea or would like to explain their operating
> > scenario further, I'm all ears.
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation

2012-12-26 Thread Dick Dievendorff
You can retune to a prior memory setting by sending a serial command, MT
; where  is the frequency in kHz.  

But as you note, it requires a serial connection. But if you're not counting
Tx frequency, you'd need some sort of connection to adjust the tuner...

73 de Dick, K6KR


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Larry Phipps
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:29 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation

I have been reading some of the KAT500 traffic and thought I'd weigh in with
my particular thoughts.

One reason to have the tuner follow the VFO is that I would like to use the
KAT500 for receive sometimes for SWL'ing or listening to BCB. In this case,
I can't transmit, so it would be nice to have the tuner track the VFO.

One option is to use the utility to manually select settings, but my
KAT500 is remoted at the base of my antenna in a waterproof box. A USB cable
of the required length is not feasible, but I am looking into using a
wireless USB extender for the task. I already have some wireless
RS232 serial extenders, but have never tried one for USB. The prices are all
over the place. Does anyone have any experience with these devices, with or
without the KAT500? Would they be safe for flashing firmware?

Even with the utility connected, though, there doesn't appear to be any easy
way to save setups based on names or frequencies. Maybe I've missed it since
I'm not using the utility.

73,
Larry N8LP



On 12/25/2012 12:00 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:54:36 -0800
> From: Wayne Burdick
> To: ab2tc
> Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation
>   (including auxBus tradeoffs)
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
>
> So what we're talking about now is whether it would be worth sending 
> frequency data from the K3 to the KAT500--at the time of keying--over 
> either the auxBus or the RS232 port. The answer, IMHO, is no. In 
> either case it would take approximately the same amount of time to 
> send the data as it would for the KAT500 to do RF sensing of the VFO 
> frequency.
>
> If someone has a better idea or would like to explain their operating 
> scenario further, I'm all ears.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation

2012-12-26 Thread Larry Phipps
I have been reading some of the KAT500 traffic and thought I'd weigh in 
with my particular thoughts.


One reason to have the tuner follow the VFO is that I would like to use 
the KAT500 for receive sometimes for SWL'ing or listening to BCB. In 
this case, I can't transmit, so it would be nice to have the tuner track 
the VFO.


One option is to use the utility to manually select settings, but my 
KAT500 is remoted at the base of my antenna in a waterproof box. A USB 
cable of the required length is not feasible, but I am looking into 
using a wireless USB extender for the task. I already have some wireless 
RS232 serial extenders, but have never tried one for USB. The prices are 
all over the place. Does anyone have any experience with these devices, 
with or without the KAT500? Would they be safe for flashing firmware?


Even with the utility connected, though, there doesn't appear to be any 
easy way to save setups based on names or frequencies. Maybe I've missed 
it since I'm not using the utility.


73,
Larry N8LP



On 12/25/2012 12:00 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:54:36 -0800
From: Wayne Burdick
To: ab2tc
Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation
(including auxBus tradeoffs)
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes


So what we're talking about now is whether it would be worth sending
frequency data from the K3 to the KAT500--at the time of keying--over
either the auxBus or the RS232 port. The answer, IMHO, is no. In
either case it would take approximately the same amount of time to
send the data as it would for the KAT500 to do RF sensing of the VFO
frequency.

If someone has a better idea or would like to explain their operating
scenario further, I'm all ears.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation (including auxBus tradeoffs)

2012-12-24 Thread Wayne Burdick

Keith-K5ENS wrote:

During a contest and for many ops with headphones on you wouldn't  
hear the

relays.  Make it an option.


It's a possibility. I'll look into it.

Wayne

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation (including auxBus tradeoffs)

2012-12-24 Thread Keith-K5ENS
During a contest and for many ops with headphones on you wouldn't hear the
relays.  Make it an option.

As for the timing if the KAT500 tunes as the receiver is tuned timing is
zero.

73,

Keith, XE3/K5ENS



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation (including auxBus tradeoffs)

2012-12-24 Thread ab2tc
Wayne wrote:

"So what we're talking about now is whether it would be worth sending   
frequency data from the K3 to the KAT500--at the time of keying--over   
either the auxBus or the RS232 port. The answer, IMHO, is no. In   
either case it would take approximately the same amount of time to   
send the data as it would for the KAT500 to do RF sensing of the VFO   
frequency. "

Well, if at at key time the KAT500 already knew the new frequency it could
update the relays immediately without measuring the frequency. If this takes
5-10ms, the normal keytime to RF output time delay should prevent hot
switching of the relays. What this means in practice is that operators could
go right ahead with full power.

AB2TC - Knut





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