Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
Andy: Thanks for the update! 73, Barry, WD4ASW/1 > On Oct 7, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Andy Durbin wrote: > > "Could you note some of the ‘fixes’ that are not noted in the release notes?" > > Here is a more complete list: > > * An enabled antenna is not selectable with mode BYP > > * F; interrogation returns zero after CAT induced band change > > * Unexpected behavior for FCCS and FCMD > > * Fault code 01 when attempting to tune with low power > > * Fault 2 leaves KAT500 in bypass when fault cleared > > * Disabling "Tune on QSY" option does not prevent RF count re-tune if CAT > frequency is available to KAT500. > > All the above are fixed in beta 2.04. > > There are also changes in full tune implementation that make is less likely > that TX power foldback will result in early termination with a poor match. > > FCCS, FCMD, MTM and MTA commands which did not work as documented have been > replaced by FDT. (See command reference for details) > > For anyone using CAT control, the biggest change is that the CAT provided TX > frequency takes priority over the counter frequency and counter will no > longer cause a re-tune at start of, or during, TX. > > (All the above are based on my notes and the Elecraft release notes should be > taken as the official version of the changes.) > > 73, > Andy, k3wyc > > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bbai...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
Hi Andy, No, not with the beta, that is untested at this point. I need to move the new software into the KAT then test again... Thank you for asking! 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 10/7/21 9:21 AM, Andy Durbin wrote: "If I use any sort of fast turn around transmit/receive cycle software, like VARA, under Winlink, or ARQ type software modem, the tuner tries to re-tune every time a most transmit cycles, even with a good SWR on the antenna." Are you saying that you see this with beta 2.04? If so, have you tried increasing the value of FDT. 73, Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
"If I use any sort of fast turn around transmit/receive cycle software, like VARA, under Winlink, or ARQ type software modem, the tuner tries to re-tune every time a most transmit cycles, even with a good SWR on the antenna." Are you saying that you see this with beta 2.04? If so, have you tried increasing the value of FDT. 73, Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
Given we are talking about Beta software, I think I have located another issue with the KAT500... If I use any sort of fast turn around transmit/receive cycle software, like VARA, under Winlink, or ARQ type software modem, the tuner tries to re-tune every time a most transmit cycles, even with a good SWR on the antenna. My antenna has 1.5:1, and if in bypass all works fine. If in MAN, the tuner goes into a tune cycle... Which faults the KPA500. Any suggestions? I do not have a computer connected to the KAT500, but could connect one if needed. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 10/7/21 5:07 AM, Andy Durbin wrote: "Could you note some of the ‘fixes’ that are not noted in the release notes?" Here is a more complete list: * An enabled antenna is not selectable with mode BYP * F; interrogation returns zero after CAT induced band change * Unexpected behavior for FCCS and FCMD * Fault code 01 when attempting to tune with low power * Fault 2 leaves KAT500 in bypass when fault cleared * Disabling "Tune on QSY" option does not prevent RF count re-tune if CAT frequency is available to KAT500. All the above are fixed in beta 2.04. There are also changes in full tune implementation that make is less likely that TX power foldback will result in early termination with a poor match. FCCS, FCMD, MTM and MTA commands which did not work as documented have been replaced by FDT. (See command reference for details) For anyone using CAT control, the biggest change is that the CAT provided TX frequency takes priority over the counter frequency and counter will no longer cause a re-tune at start of, or during, TX. (All the above are based on my notes and the Elecraft release notes should be taken as the official version of the changes.) 73, Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
"Could you note some of the ‘fixes’ that are not noted in the release notes?" Here is a more complete list: * An enabled antenna is not selectable with mode BYP * F; interrogation returns zero after CAT induced band change * Unexpected behavior for FCCS and FCMD * Fault code 01 when attempting to tune with low power * Fault 2 leaves KAT500 in bypass when fault cleared * Disabling "Tune on QSY" option does not prevent RF count re-tune if CAT frequency is available to KAT500. All the above are fixed in beta 2.04. There are also changes in full tune implementation that make is less likely that TX power foldback will result in early termination with a poor match. FCCS, FCMD, MTM and MTA commands which did not work as documented have been replaced by FDT. (See command reference for details) For anyone using CAT control, the biggest change is that the CAT provided TX frequency takes priority over the counter frequency and counter will no longer cause a re-tune at start of, or during, TX. (All the above are based on my notes and the Elecraft release notes should be taken as the official version of the changes.) 73, Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
The Windows PC utility is built for x64 (which runs on both Windows 32- and 64-bit, Windows XP and later). Only the Mac and Linux versions of the Utility require 64-bit OS. I'll ask our webmaster to update the web page accordingly. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Mike Cox Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 13:20 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04 It looks like the utility is for 64 bit Windows only... On 10/6/2021 11:27 AM, Andy Durbin wrote: > https://elecraft.com/pages/kat500-fully-automatic-tuner-firmware-and-u > tility > > New KAT500 firmware and also a new Utility version. Quite a few issues fixed that are not mentioned in the release notes. > > I'd like to thank Dick, K6KR, for his patience as we worked though my defect reports and enhancement suggestions. I learned a lot from our discussions as this firmware update slowly matured. > > All of my alpha testing was with a Kenwood TS-590S. Hopefully owners of other rigs will try this beta and report any issues. > > 73, > Andy, k3wyc > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to m...@ab9v.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
It looks like the utility is for 64 bit Windows only... On 10/6/2021 11:27 AM, Andy Durbin wrote: https://elecraft.com/pages/kat500-fully-automatic-tuner-firmware-and-utility New KAT500 firmware and also a new Utility version. Quite a few issues fixed that are not mentioned in the release notes. I'd like to thank Dick, K6KR, for his patience as we worked though my defect reports and enhancement suggestions. I learned a lot from our discussions as this firmware update slowly matured. All of my alpha testing was with a Kenwood TS-590S. Hopefully owners of other rigs will try this beta and report any issues. 73, Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to m...@ab9v.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
I downloaded the Utility and Beta firmware and all is OK as far as I can tell. Ed.. AB4IQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andy Durbin Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 12:48 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04 "Could you note some of the 'fixes' that are not noted in the release notes?" I don't have a complete summary in one place. I'll try to put one together later. A few that come to mind are: Does not fault when tuning with low power Less likely to end a full tune sequence with a poor match Antenna selection logic fixed in BYP mode "Second, this firmware is marked 'Beta'. I typically don't install stuff until it is the production version. So are the changes/enhancements significant enough and the Beta is tested well enough such that I should go ahead and install the firmware the next time I'm at the ham station in November (I operate remotely)? The currently installed firmware is 01.75. " I don't load alpha or beta software unless I expect to gain something from it. If you have no problems with your current installation, and don't need any of the new features, why take the risk. "Third, am I correct that the I can use an earlier version of the KAT500 utility to install the new firmware and that older utility software will 'play nice' with the new firmware? The currently installed KAT500 Utility is v1.16.7.25 that has a 2016 copyright date. "" The old utility has features that are no longer supported in the new firmware. The new firmware has features that are not supported by the older utility. However, basic functionality such as displaying and editing the tuning solution should still be compatible. 73, Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ab...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
"Could you note some of the ‘fixes’ that are not noted in the release notes?" I don't have a complete summary in one place. I'll try to put one together later. A few that come to mind are: Does not fault when tuning with low power Less likely to end a full tune sequence with a poor match Antenna selection logic fixed in BYP mode "Second, this firmware is marked ‘Beta’. I typically don’t install stuff until it is the production version. So are the changes/enhancements significant enough and the Beta is tested well enough such that I should go ahead and install the firmware the next time I’m at the ham station in November (I operate remotely)? The currently installed firmware is 01.75. " I don't load alpha or beta software unless I expect to gain something from it. If you have no problems with your current installation, and don't need any of the new features, why take the risk. "Third, am I correct that the I can use an earlier version of the KAT500 utility to install the new firmware and that older utility software will ‘play nice’ with the new firmware? The currently installed KAT500 Utility is v1.16.7.25 that has a 2016 copyright date. "" The old utility has features that are no longer supported in the new firmware. The new firmware has features that are not supported by the older utility. However, basic functionality such as displaying and editing the tuning solution should still be compatible. 73, Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
Andy: > On Oct 6, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Andy Durbin wrote: > > https://elecraft.com/pages/kat500-fully-automatic-tuner-firmware-and-utility > > New KAT500 firmware and also a new Utility version. Quite a few issues > fixed that are not mentioned in the release notes. Could you note some of the ‘fixes’ that are not noted in the release notes? Second, this firmware is marked ‘Beta’. I typically don’t install stuff until it is the production version. So are the changes/enhancements significant enough and the Beta is tested well enough such that I should go ahead and install the firmware the next time I’m at the ham station in November (I operate remotely)? The currently installed firmware is 01.75. Third, am I correct that the I can use an earlier version of the KAT500 utility to install the new firmware and that older utility software will ‘play nice’ with the new firmware? The currently installed KAT500 Utility is v1.16.7.25 that has a 2016 copyright date. Thanks, Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1 (Currently in Roslindale, MA) > > I'd like to thank Dick, K6KR, for his patience as we worked though my defect > reports and enhancement suggestions. I learned a lot from our discussions as > this firmware update slowly matured. > > All of my alpha testing was with a Kenwood TS-590S. Hopefully owners of > other rigs will try this beta and report any issues. > > 73, > Andy, k3wyc > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bbai...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
"Tried the new version of the Utility. 'Invalid handle' error when 'Copy New Files from Elecraft' is clicked. Unzipped the new beta firmware into my beta directory, and when I tried loading the beta firmware I got 'Cannot start a busy state machine' error." All my testing was done with alpha loads sent to me by email. I copied them to a local directory, pointed the KAT utility to that directory, and then loaded. Never saw the issue you report. Utility is a standalone exe. If you don't like the new one simply run the earlier version. I don't remember what the last officially released version was but I have several versions filed away. 73, Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
Do you know how I can revert to the previous KAT500 Utility? Thanks. - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Vice-President 2021-2022 > -Original Message- > From: Mike Flowers > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2021 08:55 > To: 'Andy Durbin' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04 > > Hi Andy, > > Tried the new version of the Utility. 'Invalid handle' error when 'Copy > New Files from Elecraft' is clicked. > > Unzipped the new beta firmware into my beta directory, and when I tried > loading the beta firmware I got 'Cannot start a busy state machine' error. > > I'll stick with v 01.75 for now ... > > - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Vice-President 2021-2022 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > boun...@mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Andy Durbin > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2021 08:28 > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04 > > > > > https://elecraft.com/pages/kat500-fully-automatic-tuner-firmware-and-utility > > > > New KAT500 firmware and also a new Utility version. Quite a few issues > fixed > > that are not mentioned in the release notes. > > > > I'd like to thank Dick, K6KR, for his patience as we worked though my > defect > > reports and enhancement suggestions. I learned a lot from our > > discussions > as > > this firmware update slowly matured. > > > > All of my alpha testing was with a Kenwood TS-590S. Hopefully owners > > of other rigs will try this beta and report any issues. > > > > 73, > > Andy, k3wyc > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > > delivered to mike.flow...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04
Hi Andy, Tried the new version of the Utility. 'Invalid handle' error when 'Copy New Files from Elecraft' is clicked. Unzipped the new beta firmware into my beta directory, and when I tried loading the beta firmware I got 'Cannot start a busy state machine' error. I'll stick with v 01.75 for now ... - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Vice-President 2021-2022 > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net boun...@mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Andy Durbin > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2021 08:28 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04 > > https://elecraft.com/pages/kat500-fully-automatic-tuner-firmware-and-utility > > New KAT500 firmware and also a new Utility version. Quite a few issues fixed > that are not mentioned in the release notes. > > I'd like to thank Dick, K6KR, for his patience as we worked though my defect > reports and enhancement suggestions. I learned a lot from our discussions as > this firmware update slowly matured. > > All of my alpha testing was with a Kenwood TS-590S. Hopefully owners of > other rigs will try this beta and report any issues. > > 73, > Andy, k3wyc > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to mike.flow...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
