Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-08 Thread rocketnj
Need more details on what your antenna system is and especially what is
connected to antenna 1 and 2 on the amp.
Any antenna switches, etc.

Dave wo2x



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Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH, which
I have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I turned off the
KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.

I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever
observed this?

Thanks in advance

Ronnie W5SUM 

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-08 Thread w5sum
only one antenna hooked to it, and that’s a sommer XP808 log fed yagi.  No 
switches.!


Ronnie W5SUM

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To: w5...@comcast.net ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

Need more details on what your antenna system is and especially what is
connected to antenna 1 and 2 on the amp.
Any antenna switches, etc.

Dave wo2x



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Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH, which
I have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I turned off the
KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.

I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever
observed this?

Thanks in advance

Ronnie W5SUM

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-08 Thread Barry Simpson
Hi Ronnie

I do not have a KPA1500 (only a KPA500) but I recall seeing posts from time
to time about noise emanating from KPA1500's.

I think you will need to check in with Elecraft on the issue.

73

Barry  VK2BJ

On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 10:28,  wrote:

> Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH,
> which
> I have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I turned off
> the
> KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.
>
> I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever
> observed this?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Ronnie W5SUM
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-08 Thread Peter Hall
I don't recall the details but have you read the posts by the Elecraft guys 
some weeks ago related to excess noise and loose grounding nuts (on or near the 
SO239 connectors if I recall correctly)?

My KPA1500 creates a tiny amount of additional noise on 6 m when switched to 
"operate" but nothing discernible elsewhere.

73, Peter.

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

only one antenna hooked to it, and that’s a sommer XP808 log fed yagi.  No 
switches.!

Ronnie W5SUM

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Sent: Friday, May 08, 2020 7:35 PM
To: w5...@comcast.net ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

Need more details on what your antenna system is and especially what is 
connected to antenna 1 and 2 on the amp.
Any antenna switches, etc.

Dave wo2x



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Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH, which I 
have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I turned off the
KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.

I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever 
observed this?

Thanks in advance

Ronnie W5SUM

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-08 Thread Dave
Mine had noise on 80 meters. Elecraft sent me a load resistor to install in the 
power supply across the 50 VDC terminals. Knocked the birdies down to the noise 
floor. I also foo d there is a connection from the minus terminal to the 
chassis that was loose. 

Serial number 423 and it has been working fine since. 

Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 

> On May 8, 2020, at 10:33 PM, Peter Hall  wrote:
> 
> I don't recall the details but have you read the posts by the Elecraft guys 
> some weeks ago related to excess noise and loose grounding nuts (on or near 
> the SO239 connectors if I recall correctly)?
> 
> My KPA1500 creates a tiny amount of additional noise on 6 m when switched to 
> "operate" but nothing discernible elsewhere.
> 
> 73, Peter.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
> Behalf Of w5...@comcast.net
> Sent: Saturday, 9 May 2020 8:41 AM
> To: rocke...@gmail.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
> 
> only one antenna hooked to it, and that’s a sommer XP808 log fed yagi.  No 
> switches.!
> 
> Ronnie W5SUM
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: rocke...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2020 7:35 PM
> To: w5...@comcast.net ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
> 
> Need more details on what your antenna system is and especially what is 
> connected to antenna 1 and 2 on the amp.
> Any antenna switches, etc.
> 
> Dave wo2x
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
> Behalf Of w5...@comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 8:28 PM
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
> 
> Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH, which 
> I have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I turned off the
> KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.
> 
> I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever 
> observed this?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Ronnie W5SUM
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-09 Thread Jim Brown

On 5/8/2020 5:28 PM, w5...@comcast.net wrote:

I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.


Is your station properly bonded? It should be, for a lot of reasons, 
especially noise and safety. It's also the LAW! Study this tutorial.


http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

On 5/8/2020 5:41 PM, w5...@comcast.net wrote:
> only one antenna hooked to it, and that’s a sommer XP808 log fed yagi.

You should have a very good common mode choke at the feedpoint. 
Guidelines here. http://k9yc.com/2018Cookbook.pdf


73, Jim K9YC




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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-09 Thread Peter Hall
Folks,

This was the thread I half recalled: excess noise on 10 m.  See reply from Eric 
re S0239 washers.  May not be applicable to present case (not sure which bands 
are involved) but worth a check.

http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA1500-RFI-on-10-Meters-td7657067.html#a7657213

73, Peter.


-Original Message-
From: Dave  
Sent: Saturday, 9 May 2020 10:43 AM
To: Peter Hall 
Cc: w5...@comcast.net; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

Mine had noise on 80 meters. Elecraft sent me a load resistor to install in the 
power supply across the 50 VDC terminals. Knocked the birdies down to the noise 
floor. I also foo d there is a connection from the minus terminal to the 
chassis that was loose. 

Serial number 423 and it has been working fine since. 

Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 

> On May 8, 2020, at 10:33 PM, Peter Hall  wrote:
> 
> I don't recall the details but have you read the posts by the Elecraft guys 
> some weeks ago related to excess noise and loose grounding nuts (on or near 
> the SO239 connectors if I recall correctly)?
> 
> My KPA1500 creates a tiny amount of additional noise on 6 m when switched to 
> "operate" but nothing discernible elsewhere.
> 
> 73, Peter.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>  On Behalf Of w5...@comcast.net
> Sent: Saturday, 9 May 2020 8:41 AM
> To: rocke...@gmail.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
> 
> only one antenna hooked to it, and that’s a sommer XP808 log fed yagi.  No 
> switches.!
> 
> Ronnie W5SUM
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: rocke...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2020 7:35 PM
> To: w5...@comcast.net ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
> 
> Need more details on what your antenna system is and especially what is 
> connected to antenna 1 and 2 on the amp.
> Any antenna switches, etc.
> 
> Dave wo2x
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>  On Behalf Of w5...@comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 8:28 PM
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
> 
> Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH, 
> which I have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I 
> turned off the
> KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.
> 
> I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever 
> observed this?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Ronnie W5SUM
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-09 Thread Ronnie Hull
Peter thanks 10M IS the band in question! Bonding is good, using 1/2” wide 
braided copper strAt for K3 and the power supply and kpa1500 are bonded 
together with the same! All equip is bonded to a 10” X 24” copper plate. That 
plate has #6 hard drawn copper cadwelded to it, the #6 going through the floor 
of shack only 36” and is cadwelded to a 8’ copper clad ground rod. 
I’ll check the SO239’s today

Thanks all

Ronnie W5Sum

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> On May 9, 2020, at 4:43 AM, Peter Hall  wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> This was the thread I half recalled: excess noise on 10 m.  See reply from 
> Eric re S0239 washers.  May not be applicable to present case (not sure which 
> bands are involved) but worth a check.
> 
> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA1500-RFI-on-10-Meters-td7657067.html#a7657213
> 
> 73, Peter.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave  
> Sent: Saturday, 9 May 2020 10:43 AM
> To: Peter Hall 
> Cc: w5...@comcast.net; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
> 
> Mine had noise on 80 meters. Elecraft sent me a load resistor to install in 
> the power supply across the 50 VDC terminals. Knocked the birdies down to the 
> noise floor. I also foo d there is a connection from the minus terminal to 
> the chassis that was loose. 
> 
> Serial number 423 and it has been working fine since. 
> 
> Dave wo2x
> 
> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 
> 
>> On May 8, 2020, at 10:33 PM, Peter Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't recall the details but have you read the posts by the Elecraft guys 
>> some weeks ago related to excess noise and loose grounding nuts (on or near 
>> the SO239 connectors if I recall correctly)?
>> 
>> My KPA1500 creates a tiny amount of additional noise on 6 m when switched to 
>> "operate" but nothing discernible elsewhere.
>> 
>> 73, Peter.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>>  On Behalf Of w5...@comcast.net
>> Sent: Saturday, 9 May 2020 8:41 AM
>> To: rocke...@gmail.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
>> 
>> only one antenna hooked to it, and that’s a sommer XP808 log fed yagi.  No 
>> switches.!
>> 
>> Ronnie W5SUM
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: rocke...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2020 7:35 PM
>> To: w5...@comcast.net ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
>> 
>> Need more details on what your antenna system is and especially what is 
>> connected to antenna 1 and 2 on the amp.
>> Any antenna switches, etc.
>> 
>> Dave wo2x
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>>  On Behalf Of w5...@comcast.net
>> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 8:28 PM
>> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
>> 
>> Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH, 
>> which I have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I 
>> turned off the
>> KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.
>> 
>> I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever 
>> observed this?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> Ronnie W5SUM
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and Noise

2020-05-09 Thread w5sum
I'm only using port 1.  I did find the ground in my circuit breaker box, 
well.. not loose really.. but got a couple of turns on it.. it actually made 
a 1 DB difference in the noise. May be on to something here.


thanks for all the suggestions guys

Ronnie

-Original Message- 
From: Dauer, Edward

Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2020 10:05 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net ; w5...@comcast.net
Subject: KPA1500 and Noise

Which of the amp's antenna outputs are you using?  When the KPA1500 is 
switched off the antenna is internally defaulted to connector number one. 
So if the noise is coming in via an antenna connected to number two, it 
should drop when power to the amp is turned off.


Ted, KN1CBR

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Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH, which 
I have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I turned off the

KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.

I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever 
observed this?


Thanks in advance

Ronnie W5SUM



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