Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Issues

2019-05-28 Thread Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
Thanks Hank. 
The .pdf format document is available too upon email request.




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Issues

2019-05-28 Thread Hank


Nice write-up!

Hank
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K3S, P3, KX3 

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From: Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS (indi...@xsmail.com)
Date: 05/28/19 10:02
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Issues

Hi all,

some people asked me for re-sharing the complete manual for button issue
solution.

I compiled it over here:
https://ok1rp.blogspot.com/2019/05/no-response-from-msg-pre-and-attn-keys.html

...if someone likes.





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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Issues

2019-05-28 Thread Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
Hi all,

some people asked me for re-sharing the complete manual for button issue
solution.

I compiled it over here:
https://ok1rp.blogspot.com/2019/05/no-response-from-msg-pre-and-attn-keys.html

...if someone likes.





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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Issues

2019-05-23 Thread Petr Ourednik
Hi Paul,

yes of course.

1. Remove all cables and use some ESD protection (at least discharge themself 
to grounding point)

2. Unscrew four main thumb screw and open the KX3 carefully

3. In the middle you will find flat (like PC) flex cable (we say ribbon cable) 
conecting both sides together

4. Even although it seems that on both sides the flex cable is seating well in 
> remove it carefully on both sides. You will have two parts of KX3 > still 
connected together with battery cable (if installed as shown on Page 41, Fig. 
62 of manual) + the flex cables on the table. If the battery opt. is not 
installed then you will have two separated KX3 parts + ribbon cable on the 
table. See the page 40, 41 of the manual here: 
https://ftp.elecraft.com/KX3/Manuals%20Downloads/E740164%20KX3%20Kit%20Assembly%20Manual.pdf

5. Clean the pins in PCB with isopropylalcohol and blow out dust residues in 
connectors on the flex cable   

6. Re-seat/instal the flex cable back to KX3 carefully. Be sure that the ribbon 
cable is oriented with the long tab toward the speaker and all pins are engaged 
when you will put it back to your radio. See Fig.61 on Page 41 of the manual 
here: 
https://ftp.elecraft.com/KX3/Manuals%20Downloads/E740164%20KX3%20Kit%20Assembly%20Manual.pdf

7. Check again that flex cable seats well fully engaged and there is nothing 
forgoten inside of KX3.

8. Close the top and bottom covers of your KX3 carefully and secure them with 
thumb screws.
CAUTION: As you close the covers ensure that the flex cable folds into the 
space next to the CP board connector as shown. Do not allow it to fold toward 
the battery holders. If the flex cable resists pushing into the space next to 
the CP board connector, use your finger to gently crease it along the edge of 
the connector as shown in Figure 61 of the manual.

9. Turn on KX3 and enjoy with all buttons functioning again... :)

Hope it helps.
73 - Petr, OK1RP


On Wed, May 22, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Paul Gacek wrote:
> Petr
> 
> I took a tumble coming off a SOTA peak this weekend doing a rather 
> precarious summersault via my pack which had my KX3 in it.
> 
> It now has failed in exactly the same way you described.
> 
> Can you possibly re-share the fix as I’ll try it before sending the KX3 
> (which has seen so many peaks and foreign countries) back to Elecraft.
> 
> Paul
> M0SNA/W6PNG
> www.nomadic.blog
> 
> > On May 22, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > some time ago also I reported that the MSG, PRE and ATTN buttons on my KX3
> > stopped working. I used them as I stored messages into bank 1 and 2 and few
> > times I used to recall the mems but after some time the buttons stopped to
> > response. No responding anymore > ON/OFF did not helped. Rest of buttons
> > tested and works well. 
> > 
> > I solved it with the same procedure which I recommended in this thread...
> > thanks to Chris, VK5CP.
> > 
> > The ribbon cable had to be re-seated. As I have clean pressed air available
> > with several bars presure and -83deg C dew-point I also cleaned the
> > connectors on the ribbon cable before installing it back. It helped >
> > problem solved.
> > 
> > Be sure that the ribbon cable is oriented with the long tab toward the
> > speaker and all pins are engaged when you will put it back to your radio.
> > 
> > If you have the similar sympthoms then try it first before more complicated
> > actions. It is easy and can help in few minutes.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Issues

2019-05-22 Thread Paul Gacek via Elecraft
Petr

I took a tumble coming off a SOTA peak this weekend doing a rather precarious 
summersault via my pack which had my KX3 in it.

It now has failed in exactly the same way you described.

Can you possibly re-share the fix as I’ll try it before sending the KX3 (which 
has seen so many peaks and foreign countries) back to Elecraft.

Paul
M0SNA/W6PNG
www.nomadic.blog

> On May 22, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> some time ago also I reported that the MSG, PRE and ATTN buttons on my KX3
> stopped working. I used them as I stored messages into bank 1 and 2 and few
> times I used to recall the mems but after some time the buttons stopped to
> response. No responding anymore > ON/OFF did not helped. Rest of buttons
> tested and works well. 
> 
> I solved it with the same procedure which I recommended in this thread...
> thanks to Chris, VK5CP.
> 
> The ribbon cable had to be re-seated. As I have clean pressed air available
> with several bars presure and -83deg C dew-point I also cleaned the
> connectors on the ribbon cable before installing it back. It helped >
> problem solved.
> 
> Be sure that the ribbon cable is oriented with the long tab toward the
> speaker and all pins are engaged when you will put it back to your radio.
> 
> If you have the similar sympthoms then try it first before more complicated
> actions. It is easy and can help in few minutes.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> 73 - Petr, OK1RP 
> "Apple & Elecraft freak"
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Issues

2019-05-22 Thread Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
Hi all,

some time ago also I reported that the MSG, PRE and ATTN buttons on my KX3
stopped working. I used them as I stored messages into bank 1 and 2 and few
times I used to recall the mems but after some time the buttons stopped to
response. No responding anymore > ON/OFF did not helped. Rest of buttons
tested and works well. 

I solved it with the same procedure which I recommended in this thread...
thanks to Chris, VK5CP.
 
The ribbon cable had to be re-seated. As I have clean pressed air available
with several bars presure and -83deg C dew-point I also cleaned the
connectors on the ribbon cable before installing it back. It helped >
problem solved.

Be sure that the ribbon cable is oriented with the long tab toward the
speaker and all pins are engaged when you will put it back to your radio.

If you have the similar sympthoms then try it first before more complicated
actions. It is easy and can help in few minutes.




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Issues

2019-05-06 Thread Bill Frantz
I should note that the ribbon cable was not loose. It was fully 
inserted when I pulled it out and pushed it back in and things 
started working.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 5/6/19 at 7:46 AM, elecraft@mailman.qth.net (David Thompson 
via Elecraft) wrote:



Good morning reflector peeps…

As a new operator and a relatively new owner of a new-to-me 
KX3, this was a good thing to read. No, I do not have problems 
with any of the buttons of my KX3. But, that little radio goes 
a lot of places with me and this will be something I remember 
should the need arise.


Thanks and 73 de AG7TX...

David Thompson, AG7TX
Jack of All Trades
Master of None
dbthomp...@me.com





On May 6, 2019, at 05:33, Bill Frantz  wrote:

Thanks. I unplugged and replugged the ribbon cable and the buttons started

working again.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 5/5/19 at 7:37 PM, wun...@wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) wrote:


I would open it up and reseat the ribbon cable connectors. If that

doesn’t work, I’d save a config, EEINIT, and reload the config.

  I’ve had weird button behavior issues fixed by each of those.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Issues

2019-05-06 Thread David Thompson via Elecraft
Good morning reflector peeps…

As a new operator and a relatively new owner of a new-to-me KX3, this was a 
good thing to read. No, I do not have problems with any of the buttons of my 
KX3. But, that little radio goes a lot of places with me and this will be 
something I remember should the need arise.

Thanks and 73 de AG7TX...

David Thompson, AG7TX
Jack of All Trades
Master of None
dbthomp...@me.com




> On May 6, 2019, at 05:33, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I unplugged and replugged the ribbon cable and the buttons started 
> working again.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 5/5/19 at 7:37 PM, wun...@wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) wrote:
> 
>> I would open it up and reseat the ribbon cable connectors. If that doesn’t 
>> work, I’d save a config, EEINIT, and reload the config.
>> 
>> I’ve had weird button behavior issues fixed by each of those.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Issues

2019-05-06 Thread Bill Frantz
Thanks. I unplugged and replugged the ribbon cable and the 
buttons started working again.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 5/5/19 at 7:37 PM, wun...@wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) wrote:

I would open it up and reseat the ribbon cable connectors. If 
that doesn’t work, I’d save a config, EEINIT, and reload 
the config.


I’ve had weird button behavior issues fixed by each of those.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Issues

2019-05-06 Thread Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
Bill,

I have exactly the same issue on my old KX3 for last few days.

I got the hint from VK5CP on groups.io to check that the ribbon connectors
are seated properly as he had the same fault and it resolved it.

I am going to do it also today evening after coming back from work.

Let me know if it helped please.

73 



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Issues

2019-05-05 Thread Walter Underwood
I would open it up and reseat the ribbon cable connectors. If that doesn’t 
work, I’d save a config, EEINIT, and reload the config.

I’ve had weird button behavior issues fixed by each of those.

wunder
K6WRU
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> On May 5, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> I was working the in the NE QSO Party and found that 3 buttons on my KX3 
> stopped working. I get no response from the MSG, PRE, and ATTN keys when I 
> either press or hold them. I know the MSG and PRE keys were working earlier 
> today when I set up a voice message to send my call sign.
> 
> I haven't opened the case or anything similar. The buttons still fail when I 
> disconnect all the external cables and run the radio on the internal 
> batteries. I've only been pushing buttons and controlling the radio from my 
> Mac.
> 
> I do have some issues also on the PX3, but I don't think they are related. 
> (Saved for another email.)
> 
> Any ideas of what I should look at? (I'm in NH and don't have a full set of 
> tools. Just a multimeter and some small screwdrivers etc.)
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
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