Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Wes Stewart]

You mean like kilo Megacycles per second.

--- On Thu, 4/14/11, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:

> From: Ron D'Eau Claire 

> I sympathize with Tom. We honor
> people by adopting their name for
> measurements and thereby lose what the original
> designations provided.
> 
> Of course back in the 50's and 60's there were many who
> objected if we
> didn't use the complete designation including the time as
> in "cycles per
> second", and so on. 
> 
> Ron AC7AC
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[James Maynard]

You are an old English-speaking geezer (or at least an American-speaking 
geezer.)  But the modern metric system (SI, the International System of 
Units) tries to name derived units after people so as to avoid the 
problem of "cycle per second" not translating well into other 
languages.  (In not all languages does the word for "cycle" start with 
the letter "c".  After all, it was the French, not the English, who 
first introduced the metric system.

That's why this English-speaking (and French- and German-reading) geezer 
likes to follow the metric system style guide, found at
.

Jim, K7KK -- K3 #5263
"Ignorance is the Mother of Adventure!" -- Hagar the Horrible

On 2011-04-14 07:24 PM, n...@n5ge.com wrote:
> Cycles are oscillation measurements.
>
> Mr Herz was a man who passed away many years ago.
>
> I prefer the use of cycles, because they indicate the exact type of the
> measurement, but I'm just an old geezer who prefers many aspects of the old
> days.
>
> Tom
> N5GE


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Kevin Rock]

Not many people at all would understand the measure of inverse seconds.   
Hz or cps are measured in 1/s increments.
Kevin.  KD5ONS


On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:41:41 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:

> I sympathize with Tom. We honor people by adopting their name for
> measurements and thereby lose what the original designations provided.
>
> Of course back in the 50's and 60's there were many who objected if we
> didn't use the complete designation including the time as in "cycles per
> second", and so on.
>
> Ron AC7AC
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

I sympathize with Tom. We honor people by adopting their name for
measurements and thereby lose what the original designations provided.

Of course back in the 50's and 60's there were many who objected if we
didn't use the complete designation including the time as in "cycles per
second", and so on. 

Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-



Cycles are oscillation measurements.

Mr Herz was a man who passed away many years ago.

I prefer the use of cycles, because they indicate the exact type of the
measurement, but I'm just an old geezer who prefers many aspects of the old
days.

Glad to hear that my selling of the old HP Analog Signal generator was a
good
idea.

Tom
N5GE

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:08:00 -0600, Doug Person  wrote:

>10 megacycle?  Did you just step through a time portal from the 60's?
>
>Doug -- K0DXV
>
>
>On 4/13/2011 4:33 PM, pcbyrne wrote:
>> 10 megacycle

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[n5ge]

Cycles are oscillation measurements.

Mr Herz was a man who passed away many years ago.

I prefer the use of cycles, because they indicate the exact type of the
measurement, but I'm just an old geezer who prefers many aspects of the old
days.

Glad to hear that my selling of the old HP Analog Signal generator was a good
idea.

Tom
N5GE

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:08:00 -0600, Doug Person  wrote:

>10 megacycle?  Did you just step through a time portal from the 60's?
>
>Doug -- K0DXV
>
>
>On 4/13/2011 4:33 PM, pcbyrne wrote:
>> 10 megacycle
>
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

Eric, are there plans to make a OSX version?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:25, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

> Its now up on the web site on the new XG3 info page:
> http://www.elecraft.com/XG3/xg3.htm

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Its now up on the web site on the new XG3 info page:
http://www.elecraft.com/XG3/xg3.htm

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
www.elecraft.com

On 4/14/2011 10:11 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
> Eric,
> would you please see that the XG3 utility program gets posted 
> somewhere on the site if it hasn't been already.  Went looking for it 
> earlier and didn't find anything.  Manual states it's on the site -
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

The image of the XG3 on the order form is now clickable and opens a high 
resolution picture of the XG3 (1.8 MB).

The direct link to the picture is:
http://www.elecraft.com/images/XG3_1200%20.jpg

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
www.elecraft.com



On 4/14/2011 9:34 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> I will add this this morning.
> Eric
>
>
> On 4/14/2011 2:08 AM, Adrian wrote:
>>
>>> As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet.
>>> But keep in mind that 0 dBm is only 30 dB below 1 watt. So if your 1-W
>>> QRP rig is S9 at the receiving end, the XG3 would be about S3.
>>>
>>> Suitable antenna design is left to the reader.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>> Wayne would it be possible to provide a click-able link on the picture;
>>
>> http://www.elecraft.com/images/XG3v2%20100.jpg
>>
>> to a larger picture so we can see the detail please?
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>> Adrian ... vk4tux
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

I will add this this morning.
Eric


On 4/14/2011 2:08 AM, Adrian wrote:
>
>
> > As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet.
> > But keep in mind that 0 dBm is only 30 dB below 1 watt. So if your 1-W
> > QRP rig is S9 at the receiving end, the XG3 would be about S3.
> >
> > Suitable antenna design is left to the reader.
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> Wayne would it be possible to provide a click-able link on the picture;
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/images/XG3v2%20100.jpg
>
> to a larger picture so we can see the detail please?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Terry Schieler]

Forgive me if I missed this, but the web site shows the available XG3 as
"assembled".  Can we anticipate a kit version at a later date?

Great product!

73,

Terry, W0FM



-Original Message-
From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:10 PM
To: ab2tc
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

RS-232. The cable is included.

73, Eric


On 4/13/2011 3:33 PM, ab2tc wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I
> have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure
out
> from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What
is
> the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
>
> AC7AC wrote:
>> I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass filter. That "RF"
>> is
>> a square wave with very rich harmonics!
>>
>> Ron AC7AC
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

go look at the manual : 
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual%20Rev%20B.pdf
- front page has BIG picture
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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On 14 Apr 2011, at 10:08, Adrian wrote:
> Wayne would it be possible to provide a click-able link on the picture;
> 
> http://www.elecraft.com/images/XG3v2%20100.jpg
> 
> to a larger picture so we can see the detail please?

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Adrian]

> As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet.
> But keep in mind that 0 dBm is only 30 dB below 1 watt. So if your 1-W
> QRP rig is S9 at the receiving end, the XG3 would be about S3.
>
> Suitable antenna design is left to the reader.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
Wayne would it be possible to provide a click-able link on the picture;

http://www.elecraft.com/images/XG3v2%20100.jpg

to a larger picture so we can see the detail please?

Adrian ... vk4tux
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

Wayne, will the software to do this be available for Mac OSX?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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On 13 Apr 2011, at 21:31, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Any of the band switches can be programmed to cover any frequency in  
> the 1.5 to 200 MHz range (or higher, using harmonics) by connecting a  
> PC to the unit.

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[David Cutter]

Hello Ed

I tried adding further attenuators to a low output sig gen several times in 
the past and found that the enclosure leakage was higher than the output 
signal.  My solution was to place the sig gen several feet away in a deep 
metal housing with very good coax and then use the attenuators at the work 
bench.  With remote pc control this might be useful to you.  I'd be 
interested to know how you get on.

73

David
G3UNA
>
> *Note: I have two 20-dB and one 30-dB step attenuator so I may be
> able to reduce the level for testing at -150 dBm.
>
> The 0dBm level may be strong enough for use with a rotating dipole
> for calibrating my 2m-eme dual-polarity receiver channels (about 130
> feet of space loss).  I have signal sources for 1296, 1420, and 2401
> MHz that runs approx. 0 dBm and are detectable over that range.
>
> Very nice tool, Wayne.  Guess I will have to get one.
>
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Yes, the 12 frequencies selectable from the front panel buttons can be
stored using your computer for stand-alone use, or the computer can
"operate" the XG3, giving you access to any frequency in from 1.5 to 200 MHz
in 1 Hz steps. 

Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward R. Cole
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Very Nice and a lot cheaper and more portable than most signal 
generators.  432.66 is third harmonic of 144.22 and 9th harmonic 
falls on 1297.98 (a little high for 1296 but may be usable).  But if 
the frequency can be moved by computer control, then very useful.  I 
like that it will go down to -107 dBm (my 2m eme threshold is -152 
dBm*).  The harmonic energy should be 1/n in level if true to most 
devices like a diode.  50ppm implies 144.22 x 50 Hz = 7211 or about 7 
KHz at 2m.

*Note: I have two 20-dB and one 30-dB step attenuator so I may be 
able to reduce the level for testing at -150 dBm.

The 0dBm level may be strong enough for use with a rotating dipole 
for calibrating my 2m-eme dual-polarity receiver channels (about 130 
feet of space loss).  I have signal sources for 1296, 1420, and 2401 
MHz that runs approx. 0 dBm and are detectable over that range.

Very nice tool, Wayne.  Guess I will have to get one.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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BP40IQ   500 KHz - 10-GHz   www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Hi Eric,
That's exactly the idea. :-)

73, Eric   WA6HHQ


On 4/13/2011 5:27 PM, Eric Champine wrote:
> Quick question.
> So I can use the XG3 for alignment on all of my kits rather than using
> another transceiver for that. Correct?
> Sounds like it to me and if so, I am going to love it. I like to build kits
> a lot. Have to hold off till next payday to order one,
> I was thinking about getting the XG2 for alignment but it didn't cover all
> the bands I use so I just used my 897D. The XG3 sounds much more easy to use
> for that :-) Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks Elecraft and thanks to
> all.
>
> 73 de W2EEC
> Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Yes, and its included with the XG3.
73,
Eric


On 4/13/2011 5:16 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote:
> Looks like the same cable as the W1?? Seems to be same type of jack anyway.
>
> Jim K0XU
>   
> On Apr 13, 2011 5:33 PM, "ab2tc"  wrote:
>>   I couldn't figure out
>> from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What
> is the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Eric Champine]

Quick question.
So I can use the XG3 for alignment on all of my kits rather than using
another transceiver for that. Correct?
Sounds like it to me and if so, I am going to love it. I like to build kits
a lot. Have to hold off till next payday to order one,
I was thinking about getting the XG2 for alignment but it didn't cover all
the bands I use so I just used my 897D. The XG3 sounds much more easy to use
for that :-) Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks Elecraft and thanks to
all.

73 de W2EEC

Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Jim Rhodes]

Looks like the same cable as the W1?? Seems to be same type of jack anyway.

Jim K0XU
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On Apr 13, 2011 5:33 PM, "ab2tc"  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I
> have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure
out
> from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What
is
> the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
>
> AC7AC wrote:
>>
>> I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass filter. That "RF"
>> is
>> a square wave with very rich harmonics!
>>
>> Ron AC7AC
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Bill (K9YEQ)]

Wayne, 

Did you leave room inside for an SSB SMD board and micro tuner?  I ordered
one so I just need to know.  I also did the 144 transverter mod just after
noting the email for the former.  In the meantime you guys slipped me a head
fake with the 144 mod so I called! I hope I don't miss anything coming out
tomorrow in this order.  Like a remote 1.5 KW tuner.  :-)

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 4:36 PM
To: Rick Dettinger
Cc: Elecraft Elecraft; QRP-L; elecr...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

Rick Dettinger wrote:

> 0 dbm.  OK, how do I key this QRP transmitter

You could key it from a PC with a couple of RS232 commands, although the
keying won't be shaped unless you do it externally.

As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet.  
But keep in mind that 0 dBm is only 30 dB below 1 watt. So if your 1-W QRP
rig is S9 at the receiving end, the XG3 would be about S3.

Suitable antenna design is left to the reader.

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

RS-232. The cable is included.

73, Eric


On 4/13/2011 3:33 PM, ab2tc wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I
> have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure out
> from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What is
> the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
>
> AC7AC wrote:
>> I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass filter. That "RF"
>> is
>> a square wave with very rich harmonics!
>>
>> Ron AC7AC
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Yeah. I forgot that it does say that under computer control. Next rev of the
manual will include the schematic for the curious and an easier-to-find
statement that the cable is supplied. 

Ron AC7AC

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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:54 PM
To: Wes Stewart
Cc: ab2tc; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

It also says the RS232 cable is included.

73
Greg


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[FredJensen]

On 4/13/2011 10:54 PM, pcbyrne wrote:
> One nice mod for the XG3 would be the capability to input a
> precision 10 megacycle reference in place of the internal oscillator.
I think this is a first for the list.  XG3 announced and in less than 24 
hours [actually I think less than 12], a mod suggestion. :-D

If I didn't already have a service monitor, I'd have the stock XG3 on order.

73,

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Doug Person]

10 megacycle?  Did you just step through a time portal from the 60's?

Doug -- K0DXV


On 4/13/2011 4:33 PM, pcbyrne wrote:
> 10 megacycle

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

I just confirmed that you *will* get the RS232 interface cable with you XG3.
I'll add the schematic and that fact to the manual. 

Ron AC7AC

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

Hi,

Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I
have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure out
from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What is
the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?

AB2TC - Knut



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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Oops, an oversight. I don't know if it's supplied with the XG3, but the
interface cable is the same as that used for the W2 wattmeter. See:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/W2_Owners_Manual_Rev_B.pdf

Page 25 (last page in the manual). 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-


Hi,

Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I
have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure out
from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What is
the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?

AB2TC - Knut



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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Palmer C Byrne]

Got my order in for both the XG3 and the phase lock board for the 2 meter
module. One nice mod for the XG3 would be the capability to input a
precision 10 megacycle reference in place of the internal oscillator.  I
have a new XG2 kit that I will sell for $55.00 shipped anywhere in the
CONUS.

 

Palmer   W7NMD

870-656-6100

 

  _  

From: wayne burdick [via Elecraft]
[mailto:ml-node+6270541-826986284-157...@n2.nabble.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:32 PM
To: pcbyrne
Subject: New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

 

The XG3 is a miniature, programmable, 160-2 meter (and higher)   
synthesized RF signal source that puts out highly accurate levels of   
-107 dBm (1 uV), -73 dBm (50 uV or S9), -33 dBm (S9+40), and 0 dBm. 

You can find the XG3 on our order page: 



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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Greg]

It also says the RS232 cable is included.

73
Greg

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Wes Stewart  wrote:

> It says RS-232 on p.8 of the manual.
>
> --- On Wed, 4/13/11, ab2tc  wrote:
>
> > From: ab2tc 
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal
> Source
> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 4:33 PM
>  > Hi,
> >
> > Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an
> > order for one as I
> > have been looking for something like this for a while. I
> > couldn't figure out
> > from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer
> > interface. What is
> > the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special
> > cable for it?
> >
> > AB2TC - Knut
> >
> >
> > AC7AC wrote:
> > >
> > > I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass
> > filter. That "RF"
> > > is
> > > a square wave with very rich harmonics!
> > >
> > > Ron AC7AC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Wes Stewart]

It says RS-232 on p.8 of the manual.

--- On Wed, 4/13/11, ab2tc  wrote:

> From: ab2tc 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 4:33 PM
> Hi,
> 
> Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an
> order for one as I
> have been looking for something like this for a while. I
> couldn't figure out
> from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer
> interface. What is
> the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special
> cable for it?
> 
> AB2TC - Knut
> 
> 
> AC7AC wrote:
> > 
> > I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass
> filter. That "RF"
> > is
> > a square wave with very rich harmonics! 
> > 
> > Ron AC7AC
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[pcbyrne]

Got my order in for both the XG3 and the phase lock board for the 2 meter
module. One nice mod for the XG3 would be the capability to input a
precision 10 megacycle reference in place of the internal oscillator.  I
have a new XG2 kit that I will sell for $55.00 shipped anywhere in the
CONUS.

 

Palmer   W7NMD

870-656-6100

 

  _  

From: wayne burdick [via Elecraft]
[mailto:ml-node+6270541-826986284-157...@n2.nabble.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:32 PM
To: pcbyrne
Subject: New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

 

The XG3 is a miniature, programmable, 160-2 meter (and higher)   
synthesized RF signal source that puts out highly accurate levels of   
-107 dBm (1 uV), -73 dBm (50 uV or S9), -33 dBm (S9+40), and 0 dBm. 

You can find the XG3 on our order page: 





. 



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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[ab2tc]

Hi,

Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I
have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure out
from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What is
the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?

AB2TC - Knut


AC7AC wrote:
> 
> I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass filter. That "RF"
> is
> a square wave with very rich harmonics! 
> 
> Ron AC7AC
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass filter. That "RF" is
a square wave with very rich harmonics! 

Ron AC7AC

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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 2:29 PM
To: Wayne Burdick
Cc: Elecraft Elecraft; QRP-L; elecr...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

0 dbm.  OK, how do I key this QRP transmitter.  Is it type accepted? :-)

73,

Rick Dettinger  K7MW


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Wayne Burdick]

Rick Dettinger wrote:

> 0 dbm.  OK, how do I key this QRP transmitter

You could key it from a PC with a couple of RS232 commands, although  
the keying won't be shaped unless you do it externally.

As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet.  
But keep in mind that 0 dBm is only 30 dB below 1 watt. So if your 1-W  
QRP rig is S9 at the receiving end, the XG3 would be about S3.

Suitable antenna design is left to the reader.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Rick Dettinger]

0 dbm.  OK, how do I key this QRP transmitter.  Is it type accepted? :-)

73,

Rick Dettinger  K7MW



On Apr 13, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> The XG3 is a miniature, programmable, 160-2 meter (and higher)
> synthesized RF signal source that puts out highly accurate levels of
> -107 dBm (1 uV), -73 dBm (50 uV or S9), -33 dBm (S9+40), and 0 dBm.
>
> You can find the XG3 on our order page:
>
>http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm
>
> There a high-resolution color photo of the unit on the cover of the
> XG3 manual:
>
>http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual%20Rev
> %20B.pdf
>
> Built into a T1-sized enclosure, the XG3 runs on an internal 9-V
> battery or from an external power supply. Auto power-off is provided
> to save battery life, but you can override this when necessary.
>
> The XG3 includes band switches and LED indicators for 160-2 meters.
> Harmonics of the output can be used to produce signals on bands well
> into the microwave range.
>
> Any of the band switches can be programmed to cover any frequency in
> the 1.5 to 200 MHz range (or higher, using harmonics) by connecting a
> PC to the unit. Resolution is 1 Hz on all bands. You can set up
> frequency sweeps over any range, and even use the XG3 as a VFO or
> local oscillator for homebrew projects. The PC application can also be
> used to update the unit's firmware.
>
> The primary use of the XG3 is for receiver calibration, sensitivity
> testing, and signal tracing. However, since it's very small,
> lightweight, and rugged, it's also useful outdoors--for antenna
> evaluation, field strength measurements, micro-power beacons, etc.
>
> Please refer to the XG3 manual for additional details.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[David Gilbert]

Any chance the XG3 utility could also control the K3?  Set frequency on 
both pieces of gear and read K3 S-meter or dbV values, saving them to a 
log file ... like a tracking generator.  You'd have to be able to 
communicate via two ports, of course.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 4/13/2011 1:43 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Jim Sheldon wrote:
>
>> That thing really looks nice  Perfect piece of test equipment
>> for the shack and portable operations.
> It'll do the job of a 50-pound wide-range signal generator in many
> cases. That may be why everyone at Elecraft headquarters keeps
> borrowing them from everyone else. Good thing we finally have them in
> stock :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Also note that the XG3 is computer controllable and that we provide a 
control and download utility that will be down-loadable from the web site.

73, Eric


On 4/13/2011 1:31 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> The XG3 is a miniature, programmable, 160-2 meter (and higher)
> synthesized RF signal source that puts out highly accurate levels of
> -107 dBm (1 uV), -73 dBm (50 uV or S9), -33 dBm (S9+40), and 0 dBm.
>
> You can find the XG3 on our order page:
>
>  http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm
>
> There a high-resolution color photo of the unit on the cover of the
> XG3 manual:
>
>  http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual%20Rev
> %20B.pdf
>
> Built into a T1-sized enclosure, the XG3 runs on an internal 9-V
> battery or from an external power supply. Auto power-off is provided
> to save battery life, but you can override this when necessary.
>
> The XG3 includes band switches and LED indicators for 160-2 meters.
> Harmonics of the output can be used to produce signals on bands well
> into the microwave range.
>
> Any of the band switches can be programmed to cover any frequency in
> the 1.5 to 200 MHz range (or higher, using harmonics) by connecting a
> PC to the unit. Resolution is 1 Hz on all bands. You can set up
> frequency sweeps over any range, and even use the XG3 as a VFO or
> local oscillator for homebrew projects. The PC application can also be
> used to update the unit's firmware.
>
> The primary use of the XG3 is for receiver calibration, sensitivity
> testing, and signal tracing. However, since it's very small,
> lightweight, and rugged, it's also useful outdoors--for antenna
> evaluation, field strength measurements, micro-power beacons, etc.
>
> Please refer to the XG3 manual for additional details.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Wayne Burdick]

Jim Sheldon wrote:

> That thing really looks nice  Perfect piece of test equipment  
> for the shack and portable operations.

It'll do the job of a 50-pound wide-range signal generator in many  
cases. That may be why everyone at Elecraft headquarters keeps  
borrowing them from everyone else. Good thing we finally have them in  
stock :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Jim Sheldon]

That thing really looks nice -- I need one and have already downloaded the 
manual and placed my order.  Perfect piece of test equipment for the shack and 
portable operations.

Jim - W0EB
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

[Wayne Burdick]

The XG3 manual link in my last email may have been broken. Here it is  
again:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual%20Rev%20B.pdf

Wayne
N6KR


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