Re: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

2015-10-16 Thread Peter Pauly
You'll need to enable the USB interface in the menu (RS232).  Elecraft probably 
should have made USB the default on the K3S.  

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> On Oct 16, 2015, at 12:28, efortner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,  I have now finished the kits and have the K3s, KPA 500, P3 and KAT 500
> antenna tuner. Have all up and running and working fine.  
> 
> After getting all this hooked up I find myself without a port for computer
> control of the K3s with my logging and cluster control.
> 
> I don't use HRD. What is the simplest route to get my USB Signal link and
> logging programs linked to the radio with my computer?
> 
> 
> 
> Regards, Earl  K4KAY
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

2015-10-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Earl,

If you have only one software application (a logger for instance), then 
you can connect it to the COM port formed by the K3S USB connection.
Your SignaLink does not use a COM port, it is basically a USB 
soundcard.  If you have run out of USB ports, you can use a USB hub 
(best if it is a powered hub).


If OTOH, you have multiple software applications that want to connect to 
the K3S ...
Use a software application that provides virtual ports.  LP-Bridge from 
www.telepostinc.com is one that works well - except it does not yet 
support Unicode and will not work with Ham Radio Deluxe ver 6 (it does 
work with HRD 5).
That will allow you to connect with your logger and other software 
applications.  LP-Bridge connects to the K3 and the other applications 
connect to the virtual ports of LP-Bridge.


Lots of support for LPB available on the LP-Pan Yahoo Group.
Note that there is an LPB2, and that is *not* an update to LP-Bridge.  
LP-Bridge is K3 specific, LPB2 is for support of other transceivers.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/16/2015 1:28 PM, efortner wrote:

Hi,  I have now finished the kits and have the K3s, KPA 500, P3 and KAT 500
antenna tuner. Have all up and running and working fine.

After getting all this hooked up I find myself without a port for computer
control of the K3s with my logging and cluster control.

I don't use HRD. What is the simplest route to get my USB Signal link and
logging programs linked to the radio with my computer?

  


Regards, Earl  K4KAY

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Re: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

2015-10-16 Thread Wes (N7WS)

LP-Bridge.  But you don't need the Signalink.

On 10/16/2015 10:28 AM, efortner wrote:

Hi,  I have now finished the kits and have the K3s, KPA 500, P3 and KAT 500
antenna tuner. Have all up and running and working fine.

After getting all this hooked up I find myself without a port for computer
control of the K3s with my logging and cluster control.

I don't use HRD. What is the simplest route to get my USB Signal link and
logging programs linked to the radio with my computer?

  


Regards, Earl  K4KAY

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Re: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

2015-10-16 Thread efortner
I have the K3s, KAP 500, P3 and KAT 500 all connected per the manual.
Windows 7 and use Log4OM and DX Cluster, run SSB, CW, Rtty and plan on doing
digital. I have had no success connecting to Log4OM using the usb com port
on the top left of back side of K3s but no problem with downloads from
Elecraft.
Earl, K4KAY

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From: Jerry Moore [mailto:je...@carolinaheli.com] On Behalf Of
ae...@carolinaheli.com
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:35 PM
To: 'efortner'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

If I understand what you are saying.
The K3S doesn't require the USB Signal link because it has it build in. The
USB on the back of the K3s supports the audio and computer control. The audo
will show up in audio recording and playback devices, while the CAT control
will show up as a local serial comm port. 

As far as I know the K3 utility from Elecraft supports the datamodes.
Depending on your logging/cluster control software radio integration your
setup may require a comm port bridge like LP-Bridge or such.

Really need to know exactly what you have, what you're running
(applications, windows/mac/linux..etc..), how it's connected, and what the
end result is expected to be.



Jerry Moore
CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
efortner
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

Hi,  I have now finished the kits and have the K3s, KPA 500, P3 and KAT 500
antenna tuner. Have all up and running and working fine.  

After getting all this hooked up I find myself without a port for computer
control of the K3s with my logging and cluster control.

I don't use HRD. What is the simplest route to get my USB Signal link and
logging programs linked to the radio with my computer?

 

Regards, Earl  K4KAY

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Re: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

2015-10-16 Thread Walter Underwood
If you’ve run out of USB ports, get a USB hub. 

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> On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:34 AM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> If I understand what you are saying.
> The K3S doesn't require the USB Signal link because it has it build in. The
> USB on the back of the K3s supports the audio and computer control. The audo
> will show up in audio recording and playback devices, while the CAT control
> will show up as a local serial comm port. 
> 
> As far as I know the K3 utility from Elecraft supports the datamodes.
> Depending on your logging/cluster control software radio integration your
> setup may require a comm port bridge like LP-Bridge or such.
> 
> Really need to know exactly what you have, what you're running
> (applications, windows/mac/linux..etc..), how it's connected, and what the
> end result is expected to be.
> 
> 
> 
> Jerry Moore
> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
> An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
> Patriotic.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> efortner
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:28 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s
> 
> Hi,  I have now finished the kits and have the K3s, KPA 500, P3 and KAT 500
> antenna tuner. Have all up and running and working fine.  
> 
> After getting all this hooked up I find myself without a port for computer
> control of the K3s with my logging and cluster control.
> 
> I don't use HRD. What is the simplest route to get my USB Signal link and
> logging programs linked to the radio with my computer?
> 
> 
> 
> Regards, Earl  K4KAY
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

2015-10-16 Thread ae4pb
If I understand what you are saying.
The K3S doesn't require the USB Signal link because it has it build in. The
USB on the back of the K3s supports the audio and computer control. The audo
will show up in audio recording and playback devices, while the CAT control
will show up as a local serial comm port. 

As far as I know the K3 utility from Elecraft supports the datamodes.
Depending on your logging/cluster control software radio integration your
setup may require a comm port bridge like LP-Bridge or such.

Really need to know exactly what you have, what you're running
(applications, windows/mac/linux..etc..), how it's connected, and what the
end result is expected to be.



Jerry Moore
CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
efortner
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

Hi,  I have now finished the kits and have the K3s, KPA 500, P3 and KAT 500
antenna tuner. Have all up and running and working fine.  

After getting all this hooked up I find myself without a port for computer
control of the K3s with my logging and cluster control.

I don't use HRD. What is the simplest route to get my USB Signal link and
logging programs linked to the radio with my computer?

 

Regards, Earl  K4KAY

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Re: [Elecraft] New to list; My first question

2011-07-07 Thread Edward R. Cole
Six meters at the boundary of HF to VHF characteristics.  Sky noise 
still dominates on 6m with approx. 2000K noise temperature.  The PR6 
noise figure reduces K3 sensitivity to -148 dBm (approx. NF of 2 
dB).  That is a noise temp of 178K.

So if we add Tsky=2000K to Tr=178K and assume Tant=100K, the overall 
system noise temperature is 2378K.
With a bw of 500-Hz this is a system sensitivity of -138.0 dBm.

If we add 1-dB coax loss from antenna to preamp, the sensitivity 
drops to -137.8 dBm.  Not very significant change in sensitivity for 
placing the preamp at the antenna.

I am installing a 6m eme station with 0.85 dB coax loss.  My preamp 
is attached to the back of the K3.
http://www.kl7uw.com/K3-ARR-6mPreamp.jpg
http://www.kl7uw.com/6m.htm

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 11:28:31 -0700
From: Alan Bloom 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New to list; My first question
To: "Larry, KB5HMU" 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 11:02 -0700, Larry, KB5HMU wrote:

 > Here's my first question to the group:
 > I enjoy 6 meters immensely and someone recommended that I buy the
 > pre-amp. My understanding about the effectiveness of a VHF preamp is
 > to amplify the highest signal, i.e. at the antenna, to give the lowest
 > noise increase. The PR6 mounts at the radio. Wouldn't that be
 > amplifying noise in a weak signal more than if it were mounted at the
 > antenna?

Yes, theoretically it is always better to put the preamp at the antenna
end of the feedline so that the noise figure is not degraded by the
feedline loss.  However, that is less of an issue on 6 meters than on
the higher VHF/UHF bands because:

(1) Coax cable loss is less at the lower frequency and

(2) Background noise is higher on 6 meters so that a super-low noise
figure is not as necessary.

It depends on what you're doing.  If you are into 6 meter moonbounce or
you have a long and/or lossy feedline then a remote preamp would be
worthwhile.

Alan N1AL







73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] New to list; My first question

2011-07-03 Thread Tony Estep
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Larry, KB5HMU wrote:

> ...the K3 is at the top of my list...watched a ham at his gigantic Flex
> 5000C and 23" monitor.continuous wrist motions with the mouse

===
Larry, this doesn't answer your question about the 6M pre-amp, but I would
make the following comment about the 23" monitor etc.

As an owner of both a K3 and a Flex radio, I'd point out that you can have
the best of both worlds by adding an LP-Pan and PSDR to a K3. I have exactly
the same 23" display on my K3 as on my Flex. And of course, I can click
around the band with the mouse just as I do with the Flex. You commented
that you like knobs and buttons, and so do I. The PSDR interface is okay for
zero-beat phone work, but I find it to be unsuited to working CW split.
Knobs and buttons are much better. You'll also find the K3 to be a better
performer all-around: a far superior ATU, better at digging out weak
signals, an incomparably superior keyer, etc.

Actually, there is a way to get an excellent physical interface to the Flex:
Tobias, DH1TW, has concocted a neat mod to the PSDR program that allows you
to use the Hercules MP3 DJ gadget to operate the radio. This sounds a bit
strange, but in fact it is wonderful. Not only does it overcome the foibles
of PSDR, but it turns out to be a really excellent ergonomic solution to
operating a ham transceiver. However, the Flex powers-that-be have offered
no encouragement or support to this splendid idea, so it has gotten traction
only with a small number of hard-core users like me. One of the great
reasons to own an Elecraft product is that the top guys are operating hams
who get on the air just like their customers do, and who listen and respond
to the needs and comments of users.

So get yourself a K3, and enjoy it for 20 years!

73,
Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] New to list; My first question

2011-07-03 Thread Fred Townsend
Larry much has been written about defining the signal to noise ratio of a
receiver. You might want to search on this subject. 

Hopefully I can simply things a bit. It is the designer's goal to get the
receiver noise lower than the ambient noise. Once that is done you are at
the mercy of the ambient noise. Likewise the design goal of a preamp is to
amplify the signal without increasing the noise figure. Sure the preamp
amplifies noise too. The key is the signal to noise ratio should not be
deteriorated by the preamp.

Now as to the location of the preamp. Yes ideally it is better at the
antenna. Many TV antennas have preamps at the antenna but TV systems are
receive only. If you are transceiving at antenna then whatever preamp you
use must tolerate your transmit power or somehow switch out the preamp on
transmit. Without going into detail preamps at the antenna are very
difficult to do if transmit signals are involved.

73

de Fred, AE6QL
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Larry, KB5HMU
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 11:03 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] New to list; My first question

Hello fellow Hams,

I'm new to the list and was referred by many from the Yahoo K3 group. Thank
you.

I have been wanting a new radio for a while now and the K3 is at the top of
my list. My current radio, a 706 MkIIG, has performed well for the last 11
years but my interest in weak signal 6 and 2 meter operation leaves quite a
lot to be desired. I'm not the sort that runs out and buys the newest or
latest (I'm still driving my 1991 Accord EX) so I want a radio that will
last me 20 years or more. This is what really led me to K3 as it can be
updated anytime. I have been looking at the SDR radios but I'm really a
"hands-on-the-knob" kind of operator. At field day I watched a ham at his
gigantic Flex 5000C and 23" monitor. Very impressive at first sight but
after watching for a while, I noticed that his entire operation was nothing
more than continuous wrist motions with the mouse. Just don't think I can go
there.

I hope to learn much more about the K3 as I bank away my extra dollars. It
looks like I need to buy quite a few of the options to do the K3 the way I
need (Ha-Ha: NEED) for my operations. Two meter board, ATU, DVR, a few
filters and the Panadapter are a must for me.

Here's my first question to the group:
I enjoy 6 meters immensely and someone recommended that I buy the pre-amp.
My understanding about the effectiveness of a VHF preamp is to amplify the
highest signal, i.e. at the antenna, to give the lowest noise increase. The
PR6 mounts at the radio. Wouldn't that be amplifying noise in a weak signal
more than if it were mounted at the antenna?

Thanks,
Larry
KB5HMU
http://qrz.com/db/KB5HMU
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Re: [Elecraft] New to list; My first question

2011-07-03 Thread Alan Bloom
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 11:02 -0700, Larry, KB5HMU wrote:

> Here's my first question to the group:
> I enjoy 6 meters immensely and someone recommended that I buy the
> pre-amp. My understanding about the effectiveness of a VHF preamp is
> to amplify the highest signal, i.e. at the antenna, to give the lowest
> noise increase. The PR6 mounts at the radio. Wouldn't that be
> amplifying noise in a weak signal more than if it were mounted at the
> antenna?

Yes, theoretically it is always better to put the preamp at the antenna
end of the feedline so that the noise figure is not degraded by the
feedline loss.  However, that is less of an issue on 6 meters than on
the higher VHF/UHF bands because:

(1) Coax cable loss is less at the lower frequency and 

(2) Background noise is higher on 6 meters so that a super-low noise
figure is not as necessary.

It depends on what you're doing.  If you are into 6 meter moonbounce or
you have a long and/or lossy feedline then a remote preamp would be
worthwhile.

Alan N1AL


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Re: [Elecraft] New to list

2009-10-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Albert,

The KRC2ACC will provide some (but not all) the display information in 
morse code.
The K3 also has "button tones" that will be helpful to you.

I do recommend K3Voice as the best solution, but yes, that needs a computer.

73,
Don W3FPR

Albert Sanchez wrote:
> That's fine, but what if you don't want to control the rig via computer?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dick Dievendorff" 
> To: "'Albert Sanchez'" ; 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:14 AM
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] New to list
>
>
>   
>> Hi, Albert.
>>
>> There are PC programs "K2 Voice" and "K3 voice" respectively that "speak"
>> the various control settings when they're changed or upon demand.
>>
>> Dick, K6KR
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Albert Sanchez
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:58 AM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New to list
>>
>> Hi List
>> Thanks for the several welcoming messages I have received so far from 
>> other
>> list members.
>>
>> I don't think I'll be getting a kit anytime soon since, as a totally blind
>> ham, my soldering skills leave something to be desired! hahaha--Maybe a
>> factory assembled unit. What provisions, if any, have been made by 
>> Elecraft
>> to accommodate those of us who are unable to read the display? (Kenwood, 
>> for
>> example, has a "Voice chip" that gives  synthesized speech feedback about
>> the menus and button press information for freq; s meter; etc.)
>> 73, Albert, W A 7 F X B
>> 
>
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Re: [Elecraft] New to list

2009-10-27 Thread Albert Sanchez
That's fine, but what if you don't want to control the rig via computer?
- Original Message - 
From: "Dick Dievendorff" 
To: "'Albert Sanchez'" ; 

Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] New to list


> Hi, Albert.
>
> There are PC programs "K2 Voice" and "K3 voice" respectively that "speak"
> the various control settings when they're changed or upon demand.
>
> Dick, K6KR
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Albert Sanchez
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:58 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New to list
>
> Hi List
> Thanks for the several welcoming messages I have received so far from 
> other
> list members.
>
> I don't think I'll be getting a kit anytime soon since, as a totally blind
> ham, my soldering skills leave something to be desired! hahaha--Maybe a
> factory assembled unit. What provisions, if any, have been made by 
> Elecraft
> to accommodate those of us who are unable to read the display? (Kenwood, 
> for
> example, has a "Voice chip" that gives  synthesized speech feedback about
> the menus and button press information for freq; s meter; etc.)
> 73, Albert, W A 7 F X B
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Re: [Elecraft] New to list

2009-10-27 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Hi, Albert.

There are PC programs "K2 Voice" and "K3 voice" respectively that "speak"
the various control settings when they're changed or upon demand.  

Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Albert Sanchez
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New to list

Hi List
Thanks for the several welcoming messages I have received so far from other
list members.

I don't think I'll be getting a kit anytime soon since, as a totally blind
ham, my soldering skills leave something to be desired! hahaha--Maybe a
factory assembled unit. What provisions, if any, have been made by Elecraft
to accommodate those of us who are unable to read the display? (Kenwood, for
example, has a "Voice chip" that gives  synthesized speech feedback about
the menus and button press information for freq; s meter; etc.)
73, Albert, W A 7 F X B
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Re: [Elecraft] New to list

2009-10-27 Thread Albert Sanchez
Hi List
Thanks for the several welcoming messages I have received so far from other 
list members.

I don't think I'll be getting a kit anytime soon since, as a totally blind ham, 
my soldering skills leave something to be desired! hahaha--Maybe a factory 
assembled unit. What provisions, if any, have been made by Elecraft to 
accommodate those of us who are unable to read the display? (Kenwood, for 
example, has a "Voice chip" that gives  synthesized speech feedback about the 
menus and button press information for freq; s meter; etc.)
73, Albert, W A 7 F X B
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[Elecraft] Re:[ Elecraft] new to list/want to build

2007-01-21 Thread Robert C. Abell

Stephen,
Go for it, you'll really enjoy assembling a K2. Suggest you start with a 
basic K2 plus the K2SB SSB board and a K2AT antenna tuner.
Use a good power supply. I use an Elpac 6 amp model that I picked up at 
a Hamfest for $10.00

Good luck and keep the list informed as to your progress.

73, Bob  VE3XM
K2  S/N  04031
K2/100  S/N  04575
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Re: [Elecraft] New to list/want to build

2007-01-21 Thread Stephen Atkins

Fred (FL) wrote:

Steve -

You should only have a great experience building
the Elecraft K2 Xcvr!   Sounds like you have the
skills and kit interest - in doing a fine job.
You have no need for a Scope  to complete one.
I built one in mid 2006, probably took me 4 weeks,
chunking along every day.  My first electronics
formal course was at a small "basic electronics"
course outfit, in Ft. Erie, Ontario - north of
Buffalo.
  
Thanks everyone for your advise and support.  I think this is the 
perfect project to eat up some of my spare time.  Now to order the kit(s)!


Stephen
Calgary, AB
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Re: [Elecraft] New to list/want to build

2007-01-21 Thread Paul - VE1DY

Hi Stephen,

I think you'll do just fine.  The K2 is an excellent transceiver and
the build is straight forward and most enjoyable.  Just follow the
manual and you'll be fine.

No test equipment is required to build the K2 other than a dmm and a
dummy load.  You do need to take esd precautions but that's it.  No
oscilloscope required.  Alignment is straight forward - simply follow
the manual.

He is my K2 page:
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/ppike/k2.html

73, Paul

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Paul - ve1dy - Halifax, NS
QRP-L #416,  SKCC #91
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On 1/20/07, Stephen Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello all.  I currently working on getting my basic qualification here
in Canada and probably advanced after that.  My first radio will be a
handset just to get on the air locally but I would really like to build
my own base station radio.  I've built many small kits over the years
but none that transmit.  I'm just wondering if the K2 is in the realm of
possible for someone who has good soldiering skills and a decent grasp
of electronics.  I don't have an oscilloscope but I'm sure someone in
the ham community here will have one if I need it.  BTW time to build
doesn't really matter as I'm more interested in the process and theory
of building the radio than using it.

Thanks
Stephen
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