Re: [Elecraft] Not All Hams are Technicians (WAS: Microphones)

2008-02-15 Thread David Woolley (E.L)

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

Agreed Dave! Hams are not necessarily electronics technicians or engineers.
Many simply want to operate with what they feel is the best commercial gear
their budget will allow. 


However, very few hams have their installations professionally installed 
and monitored, so hams do have to be technicians to at least a small 
extent, unless they want to be limited in the same way as legally 
operated CB stations.  The very minimum they need is to be able to 
recognize when a system exceeds their ability to evaluate its 
interference potential and safety risks, and install it properly, so 
higher powers need more technical skills.  It's also been the case that 
people have argued, on this list, that type approval should be abandoned 
for commercial amateur radio equipment on the basis that all hams are 
trained technicians, not that I agree with that.


(Low power users need technical skills in order to get the best of their 
limited equipment, rather than for safety reasons.)



We've always had that disparity among Hams. Decades ago, before
radiosporting was popular, those operators were largely traffic-handlers
in the days when a telephone call to a city 100 miles away was both
expensive and difficult. Hams offered an excellent way for people to pass


In the UK, and I suspect most countries, such traffic handling was 
illegal (recently there are some relaxations) on the basis that it 
undermined the businesses of the telephone companies and commercial 
users of radio. The current relaxations are probably more to do with 
stopping the reduction in the number of amateurs self training than in 
reduced threat to businesses, although the reduced cost of commercial 
communication channels would be a factor, too.


The reason that the radio regulations have special provisions for 
disaster relief are to override the ban on third party traffic in a case 
 where public policy considers that commercial considerations should be 
overridden.  On the other hand, spectrum pricing (creating a market for 
radio spectrum) actually means that governments would prefer that 
services not be provided for free on the basis of cheap amateur radio 
licences.


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RE: [Elecraft] Not All Hams are Technicians (WAS: Microphones)

2008-02-15 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
David wrote:
In the UK, and I suspect most countries, such traffic handling was 
illegal (recently there are some relaxations) on the basis that it 
undermined the businesses of the telephone companies and commercial 
users of radio. 

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Forgive my US-centric view David. It is also my understanding that the USA
was a bit out-of-the-ordinary in the fact that traffic handling has been
encouraged throughout the history of Amateur Radio here. After all, that was
why Maxim and his colleagues formed the American Radio *Relay* League back
before WWI when the maximum range of most stations was a few hundred miles
at best, so a network of stations was needed to pass traffic across the
continent. 

In the USA, commercial messaging companies complained but WWI put an end to
that. The large number of trained, ready-to-go operators that were available
when the USA entered the war brought recognition from the President of the
USA on down. 

However, the US rules also strictly forbade any amateur traffic containing
business or other important communications that would normally be handled by
a commercial carrier. Obviously, that has resulted in a lot of discussion
and litigation ever since, but the training of skilled telegraphers and
message handlers was a recognized cornerstone in the justification for the
hobby here. Much positive publicity occurred around Amateur traffic
handling, such as the famous example in 1921 when ARRL member stations on
the east coast accepted a message for a recipient on the west coast. It was
sent, delivered, and a reply returned to the sending station on the east
coast in at total of 6-1/2 minutes for the complete exchange! That was the
stuff of headlines in a day when the fastest traffic system most people knew
about was an expensive telegram that might take hours to go across the
country. Amateurs gained a great deal of favorable publicity and recognition
by demonstrating public officials could communicate quickly and efficiently
through the Amateur network if needed. 

Right along with that came the work of Amateurs in emergency communications,
providing first-ever inside information about disasters with requests for
specific aid and the first health and welfare messages telling those
outside the area the status of their friends and relatives.  

By the time I joined the hobby in the 1950's, there were a large number of
experienced Hams who believed that the only real justification for their
license was to build and maintain a station that was very reliable and
efficient, and to maintain an strict, regular schedule of checking into
daily traffic nets. Their dedication to handling traffic was at least as
great as any radiosport enthusiast's dedication to scoring in a contest
today. 

My point was that there has always been, in the USA at least, a large number
of Hams whose primary interest is in setting up and operating the best
station they can afford. As others point out, American Hams must still know
how to properly operate and adjust their equipment to ensure they meet FCC
regulations. The current license exams focus largely on testing this
knowledge. I suspect that's true world-wide. But many Hams care little about
what goes on under the hood of their rigs beyond the end results in making
contacts, nor do they need to for their purposes. 

In my view, they are as much Hams as those, like myself, whose primary
interest is in designing and building communications equipment. And I
heartily agree with you about keeping and protecting that privilege to build
our own gear. As more and more Hams are less interested in building, it's
important we not lose sight of the fact that much useful and important
technical experience is gained by Hams who do tinker with their gear, and we
contribute significantly to the communications art. 

Ron AC7AC  

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Re: [Elecraft] Not All Hams are Technicians (WAS: Microphones)

2008-02-14 Thread Mike
I very seldom post to this list - taking up even more bandwidth doesn't seem to 
be what the list needs lately Hi, but this thread sparked a response so I 
thought I'd share it.

Although I was into CB in a big way back in the day (when it was as polite 
and compliant as we sometimes wish amateur radio was today), college, career, 
and family intervened until 2006 when I finally became licensed at age 44 
(passed my General in 2007, shortly after rushing to pass the code before the 
requirement was eliminated).  At that time I was one of those interested in 
operating with the best equipment my budget could allow, but I had/have no 
real electronics experience, other than doing all my own soldering when needed 
and one summer as a teenager when I worked for a neighbor who was in the 
process of inventing the first automated wire-wrap assembly line jig.  I still 
remember him trying to beat Ohm's Law into me, without much success.

Since becoming licensed, I actually find the pursuit of learning electronics 
more attractive than operating, most of the time.  I seem to be in love with 
QRP, mostly because of all the opportunities to build.  I still don't know what 
I'm building, but I'm doing everything I can to read, question, and study, and 
hoping that repetition will help!  Currently awaiting my attention at the bench 
are a Pixie II, a Norcal SMT dummy load, one of each of everything Hamgadgets 
sells, and a BLT tuner.  My goal is to use each as a learning project, taking 
my time with each one and understanding the purpose each component serves 
before moving on to the next.  The recent QST article Building to Learn 
couldn't have been more timely.  I couldn't wait to build my KX-1 last year, 
and it turned out great (with some help from Don on the 3080 board!), but I 
have to admit that my approach did not make it a learning experience.

The hurdles these days are time, and access to a willing Elmer who doesn't mind 
teaching stuff that he's known for 50 or more years to someone new.

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73,
de Mike, KC0KBC

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From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Agreed Dave! 
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