RE: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
Kent, There is no 'official' concensus that I am aware of. Each contest should specify what they consider QRP power levels in their contest rules. CW is almost always 5 watts, but SSB is sometimes either 5 watts or 10 watts - the ARRL seems to consider 5 watts as QRP for both SSB and CW. Check the rules for each contest (or certificate) to be certain. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > > Can someone tell me the "official" definition of QRP Power Level? > Is it 5 watts for voice and CW modes? I notice that many > contests have a QRP class but they do not define QRP power and I > cannot find it on ARRL site. Thanks, > Kent > KD5SHM > K2/100 #4631 > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
5 Watts CW output from the rig. At one time I heard something about the level being 10 or 12 watts PEP for SSB but I've never run across any confirmation so I believe the official "definition" is 5 watts period. - Keith KD1E - - K2 5411 - -Original Message- From: Kent Tannery Can someone tell me the "official" definition of QRP Power Level? Is it 5 watts for voice and CW modes? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
Hi Kent I went through this a while back. QRP for every contest I could find is spec'd at 5w out, cw or ssb. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: "Kent Tannery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level? > Can someone tell me the "official" definition of QRP Power Level? Is it 5 watts for voice and CW modes? I notice that many contests have a QRP class but they do not define QRP power and I cannot find it on ARRL site. Thanks, > Kent > KD5SHM > K2/100 #4631 > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
I've sent Bob and Kent a few examples of QRP contests (and ARRL Sweepstakes) where participants define QRP as 5W CW and 10W SSB. Since this in an Elecraft list let's see what the Elecraft QSO Party rules have to say about QRP power levels... "When using QRP calling frequencies, use QRP power (5W or less for CW/Digital, 10W PEP or less for SSB)" When in doubt always ask the sponsor of the contest for a clarification on what they consider QRP power on SSB (before the contest begins) so you can operate the maximum power allowed for that mode. If the rules say that 10W PEP on SSB is QRP...you can bet the house that the guys you are going to compete against are going to be running 10W on SSB even if they normally define SSB QRP as 5W. 73 de Tom K2TA - Original Message - From: "Bob Tellefsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kent Tannery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level? Hi Kent I went through this a while back. QRP for every contest I could find is spec'd at 5w out, cw or ssb. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: "Kent Tannery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level? Can someone tell me the "official" definition of QRP Power Level? Is it 5 watts for voice and CW modes? I notice that many contests have a QRP class but they do not define QRP power and I cannot find it on ARRL site. Thanks, Kent KD5SHM K2/100 #4631 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
QRP-ARCI uses 10W PEP for SSB. This is used for their one SSB contest and in their awards. I will agree that most organizatons use 5W period, so it pays to always check the specific rules. -- Clark B. Wierda, QRP-ARCI #11646 N8CBW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
Kent Tannery wrote: Can someone tell me the "official" definition of QRP Power Level? Is it 5 watts for voice and CW modes? I notice that many contests have a QRP class but they do not define QRP power and I cannot find it on ARRL site. The definition is a firm maximum from the transmitter of 5 watts on CW at the antenna terminal. For SSB it has been calculated that a average of 5 watts will be the same as 10 watts read on a peak reading meter. I checked my FT-817 and it does just about 10 watts on my MFJ peak reading power meter in my MFJ-969 antenna tuner. 73 Karl Thanks, Kent KD5SHM K2/100 #4631 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
Hey guys! I believe he was asking about standards, not the rules in 'test. The accepted standard is 5 watts CW, 10 watts PEP phone. This was adapted for many years by the largest, oldest QRP club in these United States and accepted everywhere: QRP ARCI Ron, wb1hga Clark B. Wierda wrote: QRP-ARCI uses 10W PEP for SSB. This is used for their one SSB contest and in their awards. I will agree that most organizatons use 5W period, so it pays to always check the specific rules. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
Tom's email can be read to imply that ARRL Sweepstakes defines QRP on SSB as other than five watts. The rule specifically states: "4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 Watts output or less);" Thus for SSB or CW, the max is 5 watts. He is right about contest rules - be sure to thoroughly read a contest's rules before operating in the contest. There are differences in the rules for each contest that make it interesting. More than a few contesters have been bitten by assuming a rule that doesn't exist in the contest at hand... On Jul 7, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Tom Althoff wrote: I've sent Bob and Kent a few examples of QRP contests (and ARRL Sweepstakes) where participants define QRP as 5W CW and 10W SSB. Since this in an Elecraft list let's see what the Elecraft QSO Party rules have to say about QRP power levels... "When using QRP calling frequencies, use QRP power (5W or less for CW/Digital, 10W PEP or less for SSB)" When in doubt always ask the sponsor of the contest for a clarification on what they consider QRP power on SSB (before the contest begins) so you can operate the maximum power allowed for that mode. If the rules say that 10W PEP on SSB is QRP...you can bet the house that the guys you are going to compete against are going to be running 10W on SSB even if they normally define SSB QRP as 5W. 73 de Tom K2TA - Original Message - From: "Bob Tellefsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kent Tannery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level? Hi Kent I went through this a while back. QRP for every contest I could find is spec'd at 5w out, cw or ssb. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: "Kent Tannery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level? Can someone tell me the "official" definition of QRP Power Level? Is it 5 watts for voice and CW modes? I notice that many contests have a QRP class but they do not define QRP power and I cannot find it on ARRL site. Thanks, Kent KD5SHM K2/100 #4631 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Jack Brindle, W6FB - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
This is a bit of a bête noir for me. QRP-ARCI, QRP Canada, and GQRP all define SSB QRP as 10W. The K2, Elecraft's only QRP SSB rig, is spec'd at 10W (though the K2 can do more on some bands), and while the K1 could be modifid to run SSB, Elecraft isn't doing it because of the insufficient power output. I think that states Elecraft's position on the topic. As for FD, I wish the ARRL would follow suit, and also decouple the battery/solar bonus from the 5W limit. If FD really is a disaster test, it is more reasonable to have a category that is one-op, solar/battery power, and not limited to 5W. My father N5LK was in Katrina, and we were both in 2 other major hurricanes (Camille and Betsy) and a tornado, and I was in the 1989 Loma Prieta 7.0 earthquake, and am expecting another one sometime. I am prepared to run welfare traffic with solar power and batteries, and while I will not be running 100W, I will not be running 5W either. Leigh/WA5ZNU On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 9:01 am, Don Wilhelm wrote: Kent, There is no 'official' concensus that I am aware of. Each contest should specify what they consider QRP power levels in their contest rules. CW is almost always 5 watts, but SSB is sometimes either 5 watts or 10 watts - the ARRL seems to consider 5 watts as QRP for both SSB and CW. Check the rules for each contest (or certificate) to be certain. 73, Don W3FPR -Original Message- Can someone tell me the "official" definition of QRP Power Level? Is it 5 watts for voice and CW modes? I notice that many contests have a QRP class but they do not define QRP power and I cannot find it on ARRL site. Thanks, Kent KD5SHM K2/100 #4631 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
actually, the two major international QRP groups, QRP ARCI and GQRP use 10 watts for SSB, and 5 watts for CW, since they are equivalent in "talk power". It is the ARRL who is the odd man out, as most local QRP clubs follow QRP ARCI in North America, and G-QRP in the rest of the world! Stuart K5KVH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
Wow...I sure wasn't trying to imply that! 8-) My post said "where PARTICIPANTS define QRP as 5W CW and 10W SSB." Specifically there was a website of a group who were planning SS activity that stated that they were going to be running 5W on CW and 10W PEP on SSB during SS.You didn't get a chance to see that since I sent it to the guys off-list. There are those who look at 5W DC and immediately translate it to 10W PEP for SSB even if the "official" rules state 5W maximum power. There seem to be many "standards" set by various organizations. The only one that matters is the sponsor of the contest. One safe rule of thumb... If you never exceed 5W regardless of mode ALL contest sponsors will acknowledge you as a QRP entry in their contests. 73 de Tom K2TA - Original Message - From: "Jack Brindle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tom Althoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level? Tom's email can be read to imply that ARRL Sweepstakes defines QRP on SSB as other than five watts. The rule specifically states: "4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 Watts output or less);" Thus for SSB or CW, the max is 5 watts. He is right about contest rules - be sure to thoroughly read a contest's rules before operating in the contest. There are differences in the rules for each contest that make it interesting. More than a few contesters have been bitten by assuming a rule that doesn't exist in the contest at hand... On Jul 7, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Tom Althoff wrote: I've sent Bob and Kent a few examples of QRP contests (and ARRL Sweepstakes) where participants define QRP as 5W CW and 10W SSB. Since this in an Elecraft list let's see what the Elecraft QSO Party rules have to say about QRP power levels... "When using QRP calling frequencies, use QRP power (5W or less for CW/Digital, 10W PEP or less for SSB)" When in doubt always ask the sponsor of the contest for a clarification on what they consider QRP power on SSB (before the contest begins) so you can operate the maximum power allowed for that mode. If the rules say that 10W PEP on SSB is QRP...you can bet the house that the guys you are going to compete against are going to be running 10W on SSB even if they normally define SSB QRP as 5W. 73 de Tom K2TA - Original Message - From: "Bob Tellefsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kent Tannery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level? Hi Kent I went through this a while back. QRP for every contest I could find is spec'd at 5w out, cw or ssb. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: "Kent Tannery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level? Can someone tell me the "official" definition of QRP Power Level? Is it 5 watts for voice and CW modes? I notice that many contests have a QRP class but they do not define QRP power and I cannot find it on ARRL site. Thanks, Kent KD5SHM K2/100 #4631 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Jack Brindle, W6FB - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
