Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades

2008-08-20 Thread David Wilburn

I have upgraded to every firmware beta and never had a problem.

David Wilburn
K4DGW



BOB PHILBROOK wrote:
After reading countless reflector comments about firmware upgrades and releases, it appears to me that in many instances such so called upgrades are two steps forward and one in reverse.  


You know the drill, fix this problem, add a new feature, and then find that 
something that worked in previous versions does not function as expected and 
now demands a fix and another firmware version.

Personally, I would like to see fewer firmware releases and more time spent vetting firmware before it is released.  Firmware upgrades should be two steps forward -- period! 


The rush to add new features and fix bugs in firmware appears to me to be too 
rushed to be efficient and effective.  Tell me fellows, why the rush?

Bob, K9PAG
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Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades

2008-08-18 Thread GM4KGK


Dave G4AON wrote:
 
 
 There are still issues to be resolved, one I would like fixed is the 
 inability to adjust power while transmitting data which is tedious. 
 There are published items on the to be implemented list such as the 
 TCXO calibration to 0.5ppm.
 
 

I hope I'm not missing something but I seem to be able to vary the power in
data modes from zero to any sensible level that doesn't run into ALC (about
70 watts max).
Set the PWR control to 100w (or 120w if you wish) and control the power
output using the MIC level control on the front panel. (MIC SEL = LINE IN).
Or is that classed as cheating? :-)
Norman - GM4KGK

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Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades

2008-08-18 Thread Lyle Johnson

Set the PWR control to 100w (or 120w if you wish) and control the power
output using the MIC level control on the front panel. (MIC SEL = LINE IN).
Or is that classed as cheating? :-)


Yes, I think it is :-)

The problem with this approach is that over time the slow ALC loop may 
try to build the power level up to that which you've set with the PWR 
control.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades

2008-08-18 Thread Bob Cunnings
The K3 operating tip regarding PSK setup:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_operating_tips.htm#psk%20audio

really does need to be updated. It was written before the ALC system
changes that came with MCU 1.87.

Bob NW8L

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Set the PWR control to 100w (or 120w if you wish) and control the power
 output using the MIC level control on the front panel. (MIC SEL = LINE
 IN).
 Or is that classed as cheating? :-)

 Yes, I think it is :-)

 The problem with this approach is that over time the slow ALC loop may try
 to build the power level up to that which you've set with the PWR control.

 73,

 Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades

2008-08-18 Thread GM4KGK



Lyle Johnson wrote:
 
 Set the PWR control to 100w (or 120w if you wish) and control the power
 output using the MIC level control on the front panel. (MIC SEL = LINE
 IN).
 Or is that classed as cheating? :-)
 
 Yes, I think it is :-)
 
 The problem with this approach is that over time the slow ALC loop may 
 try to build the power level up to that which you've set with the PWR 
 control.
 
 73,
 
 Lyle KK7P
 

Hello Lyle
I have to bow to your superior knowledge in these matters, but over two or
three PSK QSO's (say, 20-25 minutes) I haven't noted any increase in
transmitted power from the 35-40 watts I start with.
What sort of time scale would you expect the ALC loop to require to get
close to the level set on the PWR control?
I will look at it more closely in future.
73
Norman _ GM4KGK
K3 - #1139


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Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades

2008-08-17 Thread Mike Cox
Having already survived the Ten-Tec Orion I firmware and hardware 
upgrade fiasco, I must admit that my experiences with the Elecraft 
firmware migration has been a real pleasure. I eagerly download each new 
beta version as soon as I know it's available. I have never regressed to 
a previous edition. This was not the case with my Orion I. The ease of 
loading a new version of the K3 firmware is an added plus over the Orion 
(power on - hold the proper buttons - hold tongue just right while 
crossing fingers). If there is some substantive issue with a new K3 
version, a corrected version appears within hours (not weeks or months 
as was the case with my Orion I). Also, the actual programmers of the K3 
are accessible and responsive. I never did succeed in contacting an 
Orion I programmer. Waiting over a year for Orion firmware that did not 
occasionally crash like Windows 3.1 was frustrating! Considering the big 
3 japanese manufacturers; if it doesn't work to your expectations, 
simply wait for a subsequent model introduction and see if that's better.


If one is not comfortable with frequent K3 firmware upgrades, simply 
ignore the beta versions. New production versions are not all that 
frequent.


If one enjoys playing with new features and functions as soon as the 
guys in Aptos make them available, then dive into the betas. It's an 
opportunity to participate in the engineering process! Hey, these guys 
LISTEN to our feedback. I'm having a ball participating in the evolution 
of this fine radio. I think they're doing it in a most acceptable fashion.


BOB PHILBROOK wrote:
After reading countless reflector comments about firmware upgrades and releases, it appears to me that in many instances such so called upgrades are two steps forward and one in reverse.  


You know the drill, fix this problem, add a new feature, and then find that 
something that worked in previous versions does not function as expected and 
now demands a fix and another firmware version.

Personally, I would like to see fewer firmware releases and more time spent vetting firmware before it is released.  Firmware upgrades should be two steps forward -- period! 


The rush to add new features and fix bugs in firmware appears to me to be too 
rushed to be efficient and effective.  Tell me fellows, why the rush?

Bob, K9PAG
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