Re: [Elecraft] Well Hell.... I just bricked my K3s
Ouch! Sorry to hear that. You are in the right place to get help 73 Leroy AB7CE -Original Message- From: Ken Arck Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:13 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Well Hell I just bricked my K3s Just finished installing the 100 watt PA and all was going fine until the 14 mHz 50 watt calibration (using the K3 Utility program). The radio went dead and nothing I've tried brings it back to life...GRR I removed power completely, let it sit for 10 minutes, reconnected and all that happens is a small thump out of the speaker when I tap the power button. I even tried the initialization procedure in the manual (hold the SHIFT/LO button while tapping the power and nothing but the thump. No USB comm either, no matter what (not surprised about that) Ahhh well, figures on a Holiday weekend Ken (time to hook the TS2000 back up for the 2 mtr EME pass tomorrow) -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lmar...@mt.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Well Hell.... I just bricked my K3s
Oh yes...holding POWER for more than 10 seconds does nothing either. I have a feeling it's going back to Elecraft next week... -Original Message- From: Ken Arck Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:13 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Well Hell I just bricked my K3s Just finished installing the 100 watt PA and all was going fine until the 14 mHz 50 watt calibration (using the K3 Utility program). The radio went dead and nothing I've tried brings it back to life...GRR I removed power completely, let it sit for 10 minutes, reconnected and all that happens is a small thump out of the speaker when I tap the power button. I even tried the initialization procedure in the manual (hold the SHIFT/LO button while tapping the power and nothing but the thump. No USB comm either, no matter what (not surprised about that) Ahhh well, figures on a Holiday weekend Ken (time to hook the TS2000 back up for the 2 mtr EME pass tomorrow) -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lmar...@mt.net -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Well Hell.... I just bricked my K3s
* On 2016 02 Jul 21:34 -0500, Ken Arck wrote: > Oh yes...holding POWER for more than 10 seconds does nothing either. > > I have a feeling it's going back to Elecraft next week... How about pulling the PA out and setting the radio back to the way it was prior to installation (it's been nearly six years since building my K3 and I forgot the strapping, if any). 73, Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Well Hell.... I just bricked my K3s
On Sat, 2016-07-02 at 19:33 -0700, Ken Arck wrote: > Oh yes...holding POWER for more than 10 seconds does nothing > either. > What should holding power for more than 30 seconds do? 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Well Hell.... I just bricked my K3s
Thanks to all who replied to my plea for help! I did find the problem this morning and man, it was not what I expected. The problem turned out to be that power was not getting to the radio. Well,,, actually it WAS getting to the radio - to the Power Poles - but no further. I decided to poke around a bit and found that the solder connection on the positive pole - it appeared to be cracked, perhaps from the repeated removed of the power connector but it seems that the added current draw of the 100 watt PA did the connection in one way or another. I reflowed the connection and the radio is once again happy. What threw me (and why no power wasn't my first thought to check) was that THUMP when the power button was tapped. I guess there was a enough charge in some capacitor to do that. Ah well, live and learn Again, thanks to all Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Well Hell.... I just bricked my K3s
What a relief!! I love my K3S, and hope every ham has the pleasure of a high performance rig. Another Elecraft superior moment, it did not destroy itself and waited for the oops moment to pass. Another teaching moment: Check power supply is No 1 on every trouble shoot chart. Congratulations Ken and 73 Leroy AB7CE -Original Message- From: Ken Arck Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 9:21 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Well Hell I just bricked my K3s Thanks to all who replied to my plea for help! I did find the problem this morning and man, it was not what I expected. The problem turned out to be that power was not getting to the radio. Well,,, actually it WAS getting to the radio - to the Power Poles - but no further. I decided to poke around a bit and found that the solder connection on the positive pole - it appeared to be cracked, perhaps from the repeated removed of the power connector but it seems that the added current draw of the 100 watt PA did the connection in one way or another. I reflowed the connection and the radio is once again happy. What threw me (and why no power wasn't my first thought to check) was that THUMP when the power button was tapped. I guess there was a enough charge in some capacitor to do that. Ah well, live and learn Again, thanks to all Ken __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Well Hell.... I just bricked my K3s
On 7/3/2016 10:49, lmarion wrote: Another teaching moment: Check power supply is No 1 on every trouble shoot chart. Or: Check the simple stuff first. Now, why do I keep forgetting that? 73, Scott K9MA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Well Hell.... I just bricked my K3s
On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM, lmarion wrote: > Check power supply is No 1 on every trouble shoot chart. > That's the truth! A couple of years ago, my K3 would start, everything seemed to work FB, but when I would turn on my computer the K3 would shut off. Of course I thought something was wrong in the computer-radio connection. But what had actually happened is that my power supply had failed. It worked enough to start the K3 but would shut itself off if the radio tried to draw significant current. When the computer connected, it keyed the transmitter just for a few milliseconds, and that was enough to make the PS click off. I went around in circles for a full day before the light dawned. 73, Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Well Hell.... I just bricked my K3s
The eternal lesson, which most of us cannot convince our emotions to believe in the time of trouble, is that most problems are not the rig per se, but lie in all the stressed connections, etc. *IF* I remember at the time of trouble, that the problem is likely elsewhere, I STILL have to almost bite off my tongue to first go looking externally and not emotionally automatically blame the box I'm using at the moment. Always rule out the mechanicals. This includes any cable entry connections in the unit. Not that there haven't been issues with my 7 year old K3 over the years, including a couple of botched mods. A couple of years ago I finally traced a trouble to a PL259 out in the shed I forgot to solder in 1993 -- how many dreary criticisms can you drag out of that? Anywhere possible, ALL of that braided coax is going away this summer. Hardline connectors too expensive? Any flexible stuff will be flooded. The stuff is not too expensive spread out over 20 years. And if you now need to pay to get certain types of outdoor help from time to time, the hardline/flooded line pays for itself the moment you install it. I am doing a rewire of the shack with a reverse oriented six pack so I can switch rigs/amps to one of two hardlines going down to the ham entry point in the garage. Among the possibilities on the times 6 side of the 6-pack switch is a line to the work bench and a line to my AIM 4170. Some time soon I will have stored calibrations of every possible coax path out to antennas, and stored R,X,RL curves on every antenna. Something gets weird with an antenna, I'll switch from an amp output to the AIM input. I'll start with the antenna and move toward the shack. Too much wasted time otherwise. I'm tired of shooting myself in the foot. 73, Guy K2AV On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 12:06 PM, K9MA wrote: > On 7/3/2016 10:49, lmarion wrote: >> >> Another teaching moment: Check power supply is No 1 on every trouble shoot >> chart. > > > Or: Check the simple stuff first. > > Now, why do I keep forgetting that? > > 73, > > Scott K9MA > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
