Re: [Elecraft] Yosemite Sam & zulu time
I notice the lack of familiarity with military time and Zulu time keeping among our ARES members, and new hams during simulated emergency tests, or public service events where any messaging is done. It is widespread since the recission of the requirement to keep a log, I am afraid. -Stuart K5KVH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Yosemite Sam & zulu time
Stuart K5KVH wrote: I think it is remiss of current education in ham radio, that we do not emphasize the continued need for ALL emergency work, and casual operating records, to be kept, and in Zulu time, -- WhadidImiss??? Is there anyone who doesn't log in zulu?? Really??? I know a lot of ops who don't log, but that's just strange to me. Maybe it's just an OT habit, but I keep a "station log" - not just QSO records (which are electronic on my Palm Pilot nowadays since it makes it so easy to find prior contacts) but also a record book of doin's at AC7AC - experiments, incidents of escaping smoke, happy dances when no smoke got out, odd band cdx, and, lately, the ever present 'Yosemite Sam' threatening "Varmit I'ma gonna blast you to smithereens..." DSB on 3700, 6500 and 10,500 kHz (so far - I suspect he's on more frequencies because this transmission lasts about 5 seconds and repeats at exactly 40-second intervals. That allows time for 8 frequencies from a single transmitter!) Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Yosemite Sam & zulu time
Two log and time related comments: - Keeping a log is great when you have a neighbor that complains that you're the reason his (TV, Radio, VCR, Computer, Microwave, or Cat) went on the blink last week. You can go back and ask him when it happened and confirm/deny it was you when you both look over your log book. - Sticklers for time in the U.S. should run (not walk) to WalMart (or Amazon.com) and pick up a new Casio "Wave Ceptor" Analog/Digital WWVB watch. The second time zone can be set to GMT (not London... there's a separate setting for London). The GMT setting is not prone to DST adjustments - meaning that there is no excuse for not being able to log the correct UTC/GMT time in your log. I've had mine for over a week, and I absolutely love this watch. - Daniel / AA0NI --- Stuart Rohre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It used to be Standard Operating Procedure for all hams to keep their logs > in Zulu, (Greenwich) time, in that for working other countries or other time > zones, this is the only practical way to keep QSL card records. > > I think it is remiss of current education in ham radio, that we do not > emphasize the continued need for ALL emergency work, and casual operating > records, to be kept, and in Zulu time, just in case we have to document it > at some future time; when we were on the air on a particular date. Don't > forget the date roll over, if your local date is some zones removed from > GMT. > > Perhaps this lax time keeping currently, grew out of the dropping of the > requirement of keeping a log; but I keep one for HF anyway, "just in case", > and for QSL purposes, and documentation of emergency communications. > Likewise, in working drills for ARES with Red Cross, we keep the Red Cross > log in GMT, to have an unambiguous time reference, and we keep a clock > marked GMT, in the Red Cross shack. It really helps to use that 24 hour > based system, to know if an emergency message was delivered at midnite or > noon. > > -Stuart > K5KVH > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Yosemite Sam & zulu time
It used to be Standard Operating Procedure for all hams to keep their logs in Zulu, (Greenwich) time, in that for working other countries or other time zones, this is the only practical way to keep QSL card records. I think it is remiss of current education in ham radio, that we do not emphasize the continued need for ALL emergency work, and casual operating records, to be kept, and in Zulu time, just in case we have to document it at some future time; when we were on the air on a particular date. Don't forget the date roll over, if your local date is some zones removed from GMT. Perhaps this lax time keeping currently, grew out of the dropping of the requirement of keeping a log; but I keep one for HF anyway, "just in case", and for QSL purposes, and documentation of emergency communications. Likewise, in working drills for ARES with Red Cross, we keep the Red Cross log in GMT, to have an unambiguous time reference, and we keep a clock marked GMT, in the Red Cross shack. It really helps to use that 24 hour based system, to know if an emergency message was delivered at midnite or noon. -Stuart K5KVH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Yosemite Sam & zulu time
I would think if one were receiving reports from different time zones, reporting in UTC/Z time would be the way to go. Makes time record keeping much simpler on the receiving end. JMHO of course. Carry-on K2Bill #973 > Who needs the reports of sig strength vs zulu time for Sam? > > Fred K6DGW > Auburn CA CM98lw > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com