Re: [Elecraft] static charges

2011-04-21 Thread Mike WA8BXN
The first thing that comes to mind is a switch that would ground the
antennas when you disconnect them. Next thought is a path to ground when you
are using them or not. That could be an RFC (Radio frequency choke) to
ground or perhaps a resistor to bleed off the charge. Use of grounded
antennas may be another possibility. That might be a loop antenna that is
grounded at one end. Another could be a vertical with a matching network
that provides a ground path. A description of the antennas that you have or
intend to use would be useful to provide more specific suggestions! 
 
73 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] static charges

2011-04-21 Thread Dale Putnam

Hi Scott,
  I've drawn an arc from an 80m dipole at 30 feet on a dry sunny day, with the 
dry south wind blowing, that is over a half inch long... and it is repetitive. 
That is enough voltage and current to cook most any solid state device.. ... 
and will do damage if left to its own accord. What I get from my antennas now, 
that are 360 foot long and at 50 feet, is absolutely astounding, when observed 
in a dark room, from the open line feeders. 
  What to do? Simple, and it works right easy too. Provide a straight... no.. 
really straight line to ground from the feedline. 
If you are using coax, then a gas tube discharge will work, and ground it with 
a very straight to ground path. No bends. And at the shack end, put a 
connector.. or coax T in the line, and solder a 1 meg resistor across the 
bottom of the T, from center to ground.
That eliminates the static. Yes, you'll still need to disconnect when not 
using.. but it will allow you to use the antennas when the wind blows and the 
lightening isn't.
  Now for open lines.. it is even easier. when the line gets close to entry, 
take a gas tube discharge on each line.. and put the 1 meg resistor from each 
side of the feedline to the case or shell of the discharge. Keep them in a 
sheltered from rain case... that works well with a sealed like a Glad or 
Rubbermaid container.. with slits cut for the feedline to go through. 
  Now you're safer from all the tracks of loose and unguided electrons that are 
of a mind for wanton distruction.
  good luck, and remember.. disconnect is always best.. IF it is a long ways 
away from anything else.  

--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy


 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] static charges

2011-04-21 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Provide a dc path to ground at all times. A 20K to 50K ohm resistor across
your antenna feed line hot side to ground will constantly dissipate
accumulating static while not interfering with the operation of the antenna
(50K is 1,000 times larger than the antenna impedance if the antenna is
somewhat resonant and fed with 50 ohm coax, and few antennas - even a random
wire - present more than 4K or 5k impedance if not.) 

Your antenna does not "attract" static but makes it more obvious. A grounded
structure in the air (tower, lightning rod, antenna, etc.) *reduces* the
static charge in the immediate area by constantly feeding electrons from the
earth into the atmosphere to neutralize the positive charge that accumulates
there. 

That's of little value if the charge escalates faster than the ability of
the system to neutralize it and you get a lightning bolt, but it points out
that grounded structures actually *decrease* the likelihood of lightning,
but may *increase* the chance of lightning striking them if a bolt occurs. 

Ron AC7AC


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Scott McDowell
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:42 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] static charges

Hello
I live at 3600 feet altitude on the Texas high plains where it is extremely
dry, 
and
we have a lot of wind. And lots of static eletricity. I have static charges
jump 
as
much as 3/4 of an inch to my hands daily, and usually several times a day.
How can I protect my transceivers from this. I keep them grounded and the 
antennas disconnected when not being used. but sometimes I believe this
attracks 
the static charges. I also keep them disconnected when not
being used
How can I protect the rigs from static???
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Re: [Elecraft] static charges

2011-04-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Scott,

If you are referring to a static spark from your hand to the grounded 
equipment chassis, then I suggest purchasing a lot of "Static Guard" - 
that is the garment spray sold to eliminate static cling in clothing.

Before touching the equipment, spray your chair, the carpet in the 
immediate vicinity and your clothing with the Static Guard.

If you can eliminate any carpeting from the operating area, that will 
help a lot.

Those static discharges will not usually harm equipment IF the equipment 
enclosure is metal and it is well grounded.  The static charge should 
ideally flow to ground on the outside of the equipment enclosure - but 
then ideal conditions do not always exist, and your reasons for concern 
are valid.

73,
Don W3FPR

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/21/2011 10:41 PM, Scott McDowell wrote:
> Hello
> I live at 3600 feet altitude on the Texas high plains where it is extremely 
> dry,
> and
> we have a lot of wind. And lots of static eletricity. I have static charges 
> jump
> as
> much as 3/4 of an inch to my hands daily, and usually several times a day.
> How can I protect my transceivers from this. I keep them grounded and the
> antennas disconnected when not being used. but sometimes I believe this 
> attracks
> the static charges. I also keep them disconnected when not
> being used
> How can I protect the rigs from static???
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