[EM] Voting chaos

2007-05-09 Thread Gervase Lam
Oops:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6622963.stm

Review under way on voting chaos:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6623287.stm

Election group criticises ballots:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6628657.stm

All this even after a how to vote publicity campaign on TV!

Thanks,
Gervase.



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Re: [EM] Voting chaos

2007-05-09 Thread Brian Olson
Too many more stories like this and I'll have to write up my own software 
and go into business selling election counting systems.

Brian Olson
http://bolson.org/

On Thu, 10 May 2007, Gervase Lam wrote:

 Oops:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6622963.stm

 Review under way on voting chaos:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6623287.stm

 Election group criticises ballots:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6628657.stm

 All this even after a how to vote publicity campaign on TV!

 Thanks,
 Gervase.


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Re: [EM] Does this method already have a name?

2007-05-09 Thread Chris Benham

Forest W Simmons wrote:

Ballots are ordinal with approval cutoffs.

Forest,
I gather from your description of the method that the voters don't/can't 
give explicit
approval cutoffs that allow them to rank among unapproved candidates. I 
say this because
in the algorithm these cuttoffs are moved about with their 'original 
position' having no effect.
Is that right?

If so, it seems to me that they way you define the ballots somewhat 
mixes up the concepts of
input and algorithm and maybe even strategy.

The candidate with Maximum Minimal Reactionary Approval wins.

A candidate's reactionary approval relative to another candidate is 
the approval she would get if the approval cutoff were moved adjacent 
to (but not past) the other candidate's position in the ballot order on 
every ballot.
  


Am I correct in taking it that (a) sometimes the approval cutoff is 
moved so that some ballots
'approve' none of the candidates, and (b) the cutoff is never moved to a 
position where it distinguishes
between candidates given the same rank?


Chris  Benham



Forest W Simmons wrote:

Ballots are ordinal with approval cutoffs.

The candidate with Maximum Minimal Reactionary Approval wins.

A candidate's reactionary approval relative to another candidate is 
the approval she would get if the approval cutoff were moved adjacent 
to (but not past) the other candidate's position in the ballot order on 
every ballot.

So each candidate's score is her minimum reactionary approval relative 
to the other candidates.  The candidate with the highest score wins.

It turns out that when rankings are complete this method is equivalent 
to the common versions of MinMax.

It doesn't get tripped up on Kevin's standard example against pure MMPO:

49 A
1 A=B
1 B=C
49 C

Does it satisfy the FBC?

Forest

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