[Elementary-dev-community] Comments on Geary

[school . mame]

I have noticed Geary is getting WAY nicer than it used to be in 0.1. The only 
thing it feels to be missing is Granite widgets, like in about dialog. All I 
know is it will be awesome no matter what is done to it for Luna!

~ mamemame187

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[Elementary-dev-community] Top diagonal window resize

[ttosttos Sa]

Diagonal window resize is rather tricky in Luna.  The active spot seems to
be where the window corner would be if it were squared and not rounded.

Jupiter
http://videobin.org/+60y/6nw.html

Luna
http://videobin.org/+60z/6ny.html

Didn't find a bug already for it.  Should I create one?  Gala?

ttosttos
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Gala Workspace Animation

[dkotrada]

yes Sam,

+1 too

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

[Jim Nelson]

Ah, that makes sense.  I was trying to add a second team/user as a bug 
supervisor for Geary.

I created a Yorba Bug Team and added yorba and rabbitbot-a.  I think we're good 
to go.

Thanks!

-- Jim

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff 
 wrote:
Hi Jim,

Yes, there is, though it's not obvious. You can set a bug supervisor (person or 
team) for Geary project at its bugs page, see attached screenshot (I've used a 
project over which I have control as a sample). See 
https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/YourProject#Bug_supervisors for details on bug 
supervisor's privileges.

I recommend creating a Yorba bug management team with ~yorba and ~rabbitbot-a 
as the only members. Such setup has proven to be quite flexible and 
future-proof here at elementary.

2012/9/17 Jim Nelson 
Hi Sergey,

I've activated Geary's bugs on Launchpad.  I went through the process of adding 
Rabbitbot-a to the Yorba team just to see what kind of fine-grained control I 
would have, but it appears there's not much -- it's either Admin or Approved, 
and I can't focus it as a bug maintainer specifically on Geary, but apparently 
on all Yorba projects and PPA.

Is there some way to make rabbitbot-a a bug maintainer specifically for Geary?

-- Jim


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff 
 wrote:
Thanks Jim!

I've noticed the Geary project in Launchpad still doesn't have bug tracking 
enabled; you'll have to enable it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/geary to give 
Apport a place to submit the reports to. Since crash bugs are private by 
default, the maintainer of https://launchpad.net/geary should be set to 
https://launchpad.net/~yorba so that you can access the generated reports; at 
the moment only Eric can do that (CC'd).

Assuming you'll use our crash retracers, you'll also have to add 
https://launchpad.net/~rabbitbot-a to the team set as bug supervisor (or 
maintainer, if bug supervisor is not set) of the Launchpad project if you wish 
to receive crash reports from systems other than elementary OS.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff]

Hey Alex,

All patches are properly propagated now. Please test OEM installation and
report results.

2012/8/27 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 

> The updates have finally* landed to PPAs, so I've put together an updated
> ISO image. It does not include our 
> patchesof
>  Ubiquity because imports
> of Ubuntu packages to 
> Launchpadare
>  lagging (as usually) and Ubiquity patch is not yet rebased onto our
> custom import 
> infrastructure.
> But we didn't change anything critical, so I guess OEM installation should
> still work. As far as the "prepare for shipping" launcher goes, it should
> be present in the dock now.
>
> *usually it doesn't take that long. Canonical happened to be moving
> datacenters and that caused some quirks and delays.
>
> 2012/8/18 Alejandro Morales Lepe :
>
> > Hi Sergey!
> >
> > I will test as soon as you notify me of the .iso!
> >
> > - Alex
> >
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Bug 1050321] Re: Closing Terminal does not warn about open background tasks

[Cody Garver]

Also where we are in the milestone (nearing release) factors in too, right
now certain things are more likely to have a lower priority than if we were
working on Luna+1.

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Cody Garver  wrote:

> Dan: +1 that's pretty much exactly what I use too.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva <
> dardeve...@cidadecool.com> wrote:
>
>> Another note on this, I'm not talking about `status' , but rather about
>> _Importance_ .
>>
>> So the answer "You are right, that is whishlist" doesn't make any sense
>> to me :/
>>
>> On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 20:16 +0100, David Gomes wrote:
>> > We use Launchpad ones:http://i.imgur.com/I15LH.png
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva
>> >  wrote:
>> > Problem is i still don't know what metric is used to determine
>> > it's
>> > importance.
>> > Or is just, oh i feel I'm in a bad mood and this looks bad,
>> > critical ?
>> > I think it's important to have rules when evaluating bug
>> > reports, only
>> > that way we can accurately pay attention to the importance
>> > when fixing
>> > bugs.
>> >
>> > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 19:55 +0100, David Gomes wrote:
>> > > You are right, that is wishlist :)
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva
>> > >  wrote:
>> > > Is this really low priority ?
>> > > What are the metrics on raking bug_report priority?
>> > I was just
>> > > searching
>> > > for a blueprint after reading getting the notice it
>> > was set as
>> > > low, and
>> > > found this
>> > >
>> >
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+spec/background-execution
>> > >
>> > > which apparently ranks it differently.
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 10:27 +, David Gomes
>> > wrote:
>> > > > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
>> > > > Milestone: None => 0.2
>> > > >
>> > > > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
>> > > >Status: New => Confirmed
>> > > >
>> > > > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
>> > > >Importance: Undecided => Low
>> > > >
>> > >
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Bug 1050321] Re: Closing Terminal does not warn about open background tasks

[Cody Garver]

Dan: +1 that's pretty much exactly what I use too.

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva <
dardeve...@cidadecool.com> wrote:

> Another note on this, I'm not talking about `status' , but rather about
> _Importance_ .
>
> So the answer "You are right, that is whishlist" doesn't make any sense
> to me :/
>
> On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 20:16 +0100, David Gomes wrote:
> > We use Launchpad ones:http://i.imgur.com/I15LH.png
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva
> >  wrote:
> > Problem is i still don't know what metric is used to determine
> > it's
> > importance.
> > Or is just, oh i feel I'm in a bad mood and this looks bad,
> > critical ?
> > I think it's important to have rules when evaluating bug
> > reports, only
> > that way we can accurately pay attention to the importance
> > when fixing
> > bugs.
> >
> > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 19:55 +0100, David Gomes wrote:
> > > You are right, that is wishlist :)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva
> > >  wrote:
> > > Is this really low priority ?
> > > What are the metrics on raking bug_report priority?
> > I was just
> > > searching
> > > for a blueprint after reading getting the notice it
> > was set as
> > > low, and
> > > found this
> > >
> >
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+spec/background-execution
> > >
> > > which apparently ranks it differently.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 10:27 +, David Gomes
> > wrote:
> > > > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> > > > Milestone: None => 0.2
> > > >
> > > > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> > > >Status: New => Confirmed
> > > >
> > > > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> > > >Importance: Undecided => Low
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Bug 1050321] Re: Closing Terminal does not warn about open background tasks

[Darcy Brás da Silva]

Another note on this, I'm not talking about `status' , but rather about
_Importance_ .

So the answer "You are right, that is whishlist" doesn't make any sense
to me :/

On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 20:16 +0100, David Gomes wrote:
> We use Launchpad ones:http://i.imgur.com/I15LH.png
> 
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva
>  wrote:
> Problem is i still don't know what metric is used to determine
> it's
> importance.
> Or is just, oh i feel I'm in a bad mood and this looks bad,
> critical ?
> I think it's important to have rules when evaluating bug
> reports, only
> that way we can accurately pay attention to the importance
> when fixing
> bugs.
> 
> On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 19:55 +0100, David Gomes wrote:
> > You are right, that is wishlist :)
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva
> >  wrote:
> > Is this really low priority ?
> > What are the metrics on raking bug_report priority?
> I was just
> > searching
> > for a blueprint after reading getting the notice it
> was set as
> > low, and
> > found this
> >
> 
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+spec/background-execution
> >
> > which apparently ranks it differently.
> >
> > On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 10:27 +, David Gomes
> wrote:
> > > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> > > Milestone: None => 0.2
> > >
> > > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> > >Status: New => Confirmed
> > >
> > > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> > >Importance: Undecided => Low
> > >
> >
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> >
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Bug 1050321] Re: Closing Terminal does not warn about open background tasks

[Daniel Fore]

Additionally, I add the following criteria when I mark importance:

Critical: This is probably a crasher. This problem makes the app completely 
unusable and is an emergency.

Low: This is an annoyance, but it does not prevent a user from using the app. 
Likely a "papercut" or small visual design issue.

Wishlist: This is not a problem with existing features, this is an enhancement 
or a new feature.

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:16 PM, David Gomes  wrote:
We use Launchpad ones:http://i.imgur.com/I15LH.png

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva 
 wrote:
Problem is i still don't know what metric is used to determine it's
importance.
Or is just, oh i feel I'm in a bad mood and this looks bad, critical ?
I think it's important to have rules when evaluating bug reports, only
that way we can accurately pay attention to the importance when fixing
bugs.

On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 19:55 +0100, David Gomes wrote:
> You are right, that is wishlist :)
>
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva
>  wrote:
>         Is this really low priority ?
>         What are the metrics on raking bug_report priority? I was just
>         searching
>         for a blueprint after reading getting the notice it was set as
>         low, and
>         found this
>         
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+spec/background-execution
>
>         which apparently ranks it differently.
>
>         On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 10:27 +, David Gomes wrote:
>         > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
>         >     Milestone: None => 0.2
>         >
>         > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
>         >        Status: New => Confirmed
>         >
>         > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
>         >    Importance: Undecided => Low
>         >
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Bug 1050321] Re: Closing Terminal does not warn about open background tasks

[David Gomes]

We use Launchpad ones:http://i.imgur.com/I15LH.png

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva <
dardeve...@cidadecool.com> wrote:

> Problem is i still don't know what metric is used to determine it's
> importance.
> Or is just, oh i feel I'm in a bad mood and this looks bad, critical ?
> I think it's important to have rules when evaluating bug reports, only
> that way we can accurately pay attention to the importance when fixing
> bugs.
>
> On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 19:55 +0100, David Gomes wrote:
> > You are right, that is wishlist :)
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva
> >  wrote:
> > Is this really low priority ?
> > What are the metrics on raking bug_report priority? I was just
> > searching
> > for a blueprint after reading getting the notice it was set as
> > low, and
> > found this
> >
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+spec/background-execution
> >
> > which apparently ranks it differently.
> >
> > On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 10:27 +, David Gomes wrote:
> > > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> > > Milestone: None => 0.2
> > >
> > > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> > >Status: New => Confirmed
> > >
> > > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> > >Importance: Undecided => Low
> > >
> >
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Bug 1050321] Re: Closing Terminal does not warn about open background tasks

[Darcy Brás da Silva]

Problem is i still don't know what metric is used to determine it's
importance.
Or is just, oh i feel I'm in a bad mood and this looks bad, critical ?
I think it's important to have rules when evaluating bug reports, only
that way we can accurately pay attention to the importance when fixing
bugs.

On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 19:55 +0100, David Gomes wrote:
> You are right, that is wishlist :)
> 
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva
>  wrote:
> Is this really low priority ?
> What are the metrics on raking bug_report priority? I was just
> searching
> for a blueprint after reading getting the notice it was set as
> low, and
> found this
> 
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+spec/background-execution
> 
> which apparently ranks it differently.
> 
> On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 10:27 +, David Gomes wrote:
> > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> > Milestone: None => 0.2
> >
> > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> >Status: New => Confirmed
> >
> > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> >Importance: Undecided => Low
> >
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

[Jim Nelson]

Hi Sergey,

I've activated Geary's bugs on Launchpad.  I went through the process of adding 
Rabbitbot-a to the Yorba team just to see what kind of fine-grained control I 
would have, but it appears there's not much -- it's either Admin or Approved, 
and I can't focus it as a bug maintainer specifically on Geary, but apparently 
on all Yorba projects and PPA.

Is there some way to make rabbitbot-a a bug maintainer specifically for Geary?

-- Jim

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff 
 wrote:
Thanks Jim!

I've noticed the Geary project in Launchpad still doesn't have bug tracking 
enabled; you'll have to enable it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/geary to give 
Apport a place to submit the reports to. Since crash bugs are private by 
default, the maintainer of https://launchpad.net/geary should be set to 
https://launchpad.net/~yorba so that you can access the generated reports; at 
the moment only Eric can do that (CC'd).

Assuming you'll use our crash retracers, you'll also have to add 
https://launchpad.net/~rabbitbot-a to the team set as bug supervisor (or 
maintainer, if bug supervisor is not set) of the Launchpad project if you wish 
to receive crash reports from systems other than elementary OS.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Bug 1050321] Re: Closing Terminal does not warn about open background tasks

[David Gomes]

You are right, that is wishlist :)

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva <
dardeve...@cidadecool.com> wrote:

> Is this really low priority ?
> What are the metrics on raking bug_report priority? I was just searching
> for a blueprint after reading getting the notice it was set as low, and
> found this
>
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+spec/background-execution
>
> which apparently ranks it differently.
>
> On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 10:27 +, David Gomes wrote:
> > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> > Milestone: None => 0.2
> >
> > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> >Status: New => Confirmed
> >
> > ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal
> >Importance: Undecided => Low
> >
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Possible Plug Idea

[Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff]

There's also a cool open-source http://lettercaseapp.com/ but it targets
designers and Mac OS.

2012/9/17 Cody Garver 

> Maybe we can organize a campaign to badger this guy's font manager 
> projectinto 
> releasing some GTK3 source code?
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Dane Henson wrote:
>
>> This is the dilemma that I ran into when thinking about a font plug.  My
>> idea for a font plug was to manage all of the installed fonts, but that
>> seemed like more of a standalone application than a plug.
>>
>> I would tend to lean more towards a system utility approach like Sergey
>> mentioned.  My current partition for elementary is only about 10GB, and I
>> brush up against the "disk too full" warning quite a bit.  If we were to
>> add a button for "disk cleanup" in that dialog, we could direct the user to
>> the disk usage plug with some cleanup options.
>>
>> I understand that there are some utilities out there that already show
>> disk usage (baobab), but I thought it would be nice to have an
>> elementary-specific utility, whether it be a plug or a simple application.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff <
>> ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote:
>>
>> Well, where do we place system maintenance utilities? It very well would
>> be one, especially if added an ability to clean up unused files.
>>
>> 2012/9/15 Harvey Cabaguio 
>>
>>> Well IMO those are not system settings so I don't think it would make
>>> sense in switchboard.
>>> On Sep 14, 2012 4:59 PM, "Dane Henson"  wrote:
>>>
 I am sorry if this has been mentioned or proposed before, but I had an
 idea for a switchboard plug and I wanted to run it past you.

 I would love to see a plug that shows an overview of "disk usage" in
 the style of the Usage section in the mockup seen here:

 http://elementary-art.deviantart.com/gallery/35710915#/d4yx34p

 I don't think it needs the granularity of filetype, but I think at
 least for the filesystem, it could show "system files" and "personal 
 files".

 I envision a switchboard plug with a selectable list of attached drives
 to the left, and the info of the selected drive on the right.

 What I don't want to do is create a redundant plug, or even make this a
 plug if it doesn't belong in the switchboard.  This would be a tool that
 could be useful for the average user when they just need to see a quick
 overview of how big their disk is, and how much space they have left.  I
 find myself wanting a graphical display of disk usage fairly often,
 especially on some of the frankenstein computers I have laying around with
 only 20-40GB hard drives.  If the average user doesn't know how to run 'df
 -h', it might be nice to have a native informational tool like this.

 Please let me know if it would make sense.  I know this can't happen
 until Luna+1 or later, but I had to write it down before I forgot about it.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Gala Workspace Animation

[Harvey Cabaguio]

Already filed a bug about it.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/gala/+bug/1051732

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Keith Adair  wrote:

> Okay, +1 on satch...@gmail.com's implementation.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:15 AM, satch...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> If I may, here's how things should go:
>
>1. You call up the Workspace Switcher (is there a hot corner or
>something?). The screen slides *up*.
>2. You switch to the workspace on the right. The screen slides *left*.
>3. You move/click the mouse somewhere outside the switcher area,
>dismissing the switcher. The screen slides *down*.
>
> Ergo, it should be broken up into gentle vertical and horizontal
> movements, rather than sudden diagonal movements.
>
> On 17 September 2012 22:38, Sam Tate  wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> A lot of users have expressed an extreme dislike for the Workspace
>> Switcher animation (When clicking on another workspace in the Switcher.)
>> The issue is that the desktop slides to the left/right as well as down.
>> This does look really odd, and some people report it actually being
>> disorientating to watch.
>>
>> Maybe we should consider changing the behaviour? (I personally dislike it
>> too). One option is to slide the desktop, and then after the movement is
>> finished, slide the desktop back down.
>>
>>  Thoughts?
>>
>> Sam
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Possible Plug Idea

[Cody Garver]

Maybe we can organize a campaign to badger this guy's font manager
projectinto
releasing some GTK3 source code?

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Dane Henson  wrote:

> This is the dilemma that I ran into when thinking about a font plug.  My
> idea for a font plug was to manage all of the installed fonts, but that
> seemed like more of a standalone application than a plug.
>
> I would tend to lean more towards a system utility approach like Sergey
> mentioned.  My current partition for elementary is only about 10GB, and I
> brush up against the "disk too full" warning quite a bit.  If we were to
> add a button for "disk cleanup" in that dialog, we could direct the user to
> the disk usage plug with some cleanup options.
>
> I understand that there are some utilities out there that already show
> disk usage (baobab), but I thought it would be nice to have an
> elementary-specific utility, whether it be a plug or a simple application.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff <
> ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote:
>
> Well, where do we place system maintenance utilities? It very well would
> be one, especially if added an ability to clean up unused files.
>
> 2012/9/15 Harvey Cabaguio 
>
>> Well IMO those are not system settings so I don't think it would make
>> sense in switchboard.
>> On Sep 14, 2012 4:59 PM, "Dane Henson"  wrote:
>>
>>> I am sorry if this has been mentioned or proposed before, but I had an
>>> idea for a switchboard plug and I wanted to run it past you.
>>>
>>> I would love to see a plug that shows an overview of "disk usage" in the
>>> style of the Usage section in the mockup seen here:
>>>
>>> http://elementary-art.deviantart.com/gallery/35710915#/d4yx34p
>>>
>>> I don't think it needs the granularity of filetype, but I think at least
>>> for the filesystem, it could show "system files" and "personal files".
>>>
>>> I envision a switchboard plug with a selectable list of attached drives
>>> to the left, and the info of the selected drive on the right.
>>>
>>> What I don't want to do is create a redundant plug, or even make this a
>>> plug if it doesn't belong in the switchboard.  This would be a tool that
>>> could be useful for the average user when they just need to see a quick
>>> overview of how big their disk is, and how much space they have left.  I
>>> find myself wanting a graphical display of disk usage fairly often,
>>> especially on some of the frankenstein computers I have laying around with
>>> only 20-40GB hard drives.  If the average user doesn't know how to run 'df
>>> -h', it might be nice to have a native informational tool like this.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if it would make sense.  I know this can't happen
>>> until Luna+1 or later, but I had to write it down before I forgot about it.
>>>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Gala Workspace Animation

[Keith Adair]

Okay, +1 on satch...@gmail.com's implementation.

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:15 AM, satch...@gmail.com  wrote:
If I may, here's how things should go:
You call up the Workspace Switcher (is there a hot corner or something?). The 
screen slides up.
You switch to the workspace on the right. The screen slides left.
You move/click the mouse somewhere outside the switcher area, dismissing the 
switcher. The screen slides down.
Ergo, it should be broken up into gentle vertical and horizontal movements, 
rather than sudden diagonal movements.

On 17 September 2012 22:38, Sam Tate  wrote:
Greetings,

A lot of users have expressed an extreme dislike for the Workspace Switcher 
animation (When clicking on another workspace in the Switcher.)
The issue is that the desktop slides to the left/right as well as down. This 
does look really odd, and some people report it actually being disorientating 
to watch.

Maybe we should consider changing the behaviour? (I personally dislike it too). 
One option is to slide the desktop, and then after the movement is finished, 
slide the desktop back down.

Thoughts?

Sam

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Gala Workspace Animation

[Keith Adair]

Can I be +1/2? Because I don't love the idea of having two separate animations 
lengthening the transition time and occurring right after the other. But the 
current implementation is a little awkward. I think that a click on a workspace 
should trigger the horizontal transition, but the switcher should not go away 
until the user moves his mouse off the switcher and on  to the desktop.

What thinkest ye?

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Allen Lowe  wrote:
+1 to improving that animation 

Allen Lowe 


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Sam Tate wrote: 
> Greetings, 
> 
> A lot of users have expressed an extreme dislike for the Workspace Switcher 
> animation (When clicking on another workspace in the Switcher.) 
> The issue is that the desktop slides to the left/right as well as down. This 
> does look really odd, and some people report it actually being 
> disorientating to watch. 
> 
> Maybe we should consider changing the behaviour? (I personally dislike it 
> too). One option is to slide the desktop, and then after the movement is 
> finished, slide the desktop back down. 
> 
> Thoughts? 
> 
> Sam 
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Gala Workspace Animation

[satch...@gmail.com]

If I may, here's how things should go:

   1. You call up the Workspace Switcher (is there a hot corner or
   something?). The screen slides *up*.
   2. You switch to the workspace on the right. The screen slides *left*.
   3. You move/click the mouse somewhere outside the switcher area,
   dismissing the switcher. The screen slides *down*.

Ergo, it should be broken up into gentle vertical and horizontal movements,
rather than sudden diagonal movements.

On 17 September 2012 22:38, Sam Tate  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> A lot of users have expressed an extreme dislike for the Workspace
> Switcher animation (When clicking on another workspace in the Switcher.)
> The issue is that the desktop slides to the left/right as well as down.
> This does look really odd, and some people report it actually being
> disorientating to watch.
>
> Maybe we should consider changing the behaviour? (I personally dislike it
> too). One option is to slide the desktop, and then after the movement is
> finished, slide the desktop back down.
>
>  Thoughts?
>
> Sam
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Gala Workspace Animation

[Allen Lowe]

+1 to improving that animation

Allen Lowe


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Sam Tate  wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> A lot of users have expressed an extreme dislike for the Workspace Switcher
> animation (When clicking on another workspace in the Switcher.)
> The issue is that the desktop slides to the left/right as well as down. This
> does look really odd, and some people report it actually being
> disorientating to watch.
>
> Maybe we should consider changing the behaviour? (I personally dislike it
> too). One option is to slide the desktop, and then after the movement is
> finished, slide the desktop back down.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Sam
>
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[Elementary-dev-community] Gala Workspace Animation

[Sam Tate]

Greetings,

A lot of users have expressed an extreme dislike for the Workspace Switcher
animation (When clicking on another workspace in the Switcher.)
The issue is that the desktop slides to the left/right as well as down.
This does look really odd, and some people report it actually being
disorientating to watch.

Maybe we should consider changing the behaviour? (I personally dislike it
too). One option is to slide the desktop, and then after the movement is
finished, slide the desktop back down.

Thoughts?

Sam
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Possible Plug Idea

[Dane Henson]

This is the dilemma that I ran into when thinking about a font plug.  My idea 
for a font plug was to manage all of the installed fonts, but that seemed like 
more of a standalone application than a plug.

I would tend to lean more towards a system utility approach like Sergey 
mentioned.  My current partition for elementary is only about 10GB, and I brush 
up against the "disk too full" warning quite a bit.  If we were to add a button 
for "disk cleanup" in that dialog, we could direct the user to the disk usage 
plug with some cleanup options.

I understand that there are some utilities out there that already show disk 
usage (baobab), but I thought it would be nice to have an elementary-specific 
utility, whether it be a plug or a simple application.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff 
 wrote:
Well, where do we place system maintenance utilities? It very well would be 
one, especially if added an ability to clean up unused files.

2012/9/15 Harvey Cabaguio 
Well IMO those are not system settings so I don't think it would make sense in 
switchboard.

On Sep 14, 2012 4:59 PM, "Dane Henson"  wrote:
I am sorry if this has been mentioned or proposed before, but I had an idea for 
a switchboard plug and I wanted to run it past you.

I would love to see a plug that shows an overview of "disk usage" in the style 
of the Usage section in the mockup seen here:

http://elementary-art.deviantart.com/gallery/35710915#/d4yx34p

I don't think it needs the granularity of filetype, but I think at least for 
the filesystem, it could show "system files" and "personal files".

I envision a switchboard plug with a selectable list of attached drives to the 
left, and the info of the selected drive on the right.

What I don't want to do is create a redundant plug, or even make this a plug if 
it doesn't belong in the switchboard.  This would be a tool that could be 
useful for the average user when they just need to see a quick overview of how 
big their disk is, and how much space they have left.  I find myself wanting a 
graphical display of disk usage fairly often, especially on some of the 
frankenstein computers I have laying around with only 20-40GB hard drives.  If 
the average user doesn't know how to run 'df -h', it might be nice to have a 
native informational tool like this.

Please let me know if it would make sense.  I know this can't happen until 
Luna+1 or later, but I had to write it down before I forgot about it.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Maybe a Design Bug - fix dificulty Easy

[Darcy Brás da Silva]

I'm ok with that, please do note that it was a user posting this bug,
he/she dropped by #elementary 
to ask why and if it was or not a bug. I said fill a bug so it can be
evaluated by the team since I was not the indicated individual to reply.

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> 2012/9/17 Brendan :
> > I personally think a black cursor would look ugly on that. It looks fine the
> > way it is.
> 
> +1
> 
> I don't think this is worth a bug. Also I think that hardly anyone
> notes this or is even confused.
> In opposite, IMOH a black cursor would not fit well in the color
> scheme of that icon, hence I'd also leave as is.
> 
> >
> > On Sep 16, 2012 5:41 PM, "Darcy Brás da Silva" 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> The bug report is :
> >>
> >> Why is the mouse cursor in Files' icon white? Elementary's cursor is
> >> black, so the Files' icon should display a black cursor.
> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-files/+bug/1042804
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> >> What's your take on this designers ?
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Maybe a Design Bug - fix dificulty Easy

[Eshat Cakar]

2012/9/17 Brendan :
> I personally think a black cursor would look ugly on that. It looks fine the
> way it is.

+1

I don't think this is worth a bug. Also I think that hardly anyone
notes this or is even confused.
In opposite, IMOH a black cursor would not fit well in the color
scheme of that icon, hence I'd also leave as is.

>
> On Sep 16, 2012 5:41 PM, "Darcy Brás da Silva" 
> wrote:
>>
>> The bug report is :
>>
>> Why is the mouse cursor in Files' icon white? Elementary's cursor is
>> black, so the Files' icon should display a black cursor.
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-files/+bug/1042804
>>
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