Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Granite Release

[ttosttos Sa]

I guess if my previous argument holds water, a click on the + should
actually add a tab on the left (contrary to my previous statement).  A
double-click on the right (empty space) should add a tab on the right.  The
logic would be: action on the tabbar happens closest to its trigger.  I
think it's safe to assume that user attention is close to the pointer.  For
an add started from outside the tabbar (e.g. from an App menu), I'd still
favor the tab to appear on the empty space, instead of the shift which is
more visually distracting.

--ttosttos

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:16 PM, ttosttos Sa  wrote:

> Oopss... watch out for that argument.  It doesn't hold true for millions
> (should probably say billions) of people around the world :-)  I find the
> shifting of all tabs a bit unintuitive.  I personally find more natural
> that new tabs fill the empty space instead of shifting all the existing
> tabs.  In addition, double click on the empty tabbar space currently has
> the odd result of adding a tab far away from where the double click took
> place (which should be where the user attention is).
>
>
> --ttosttos
> ps. On a somewhat related note, I think the widget could benefit from some
> visual work.
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Voldyman  wrote:
>
>> Another argument can be that most of the languages we use are written
>> from left to right so our mental model dictates that the new things should
>> be on the right and the left side remains unchanged.
>> example.
>> we write
>> D
>> Da
>> Dan
>> -not
>> n
>> an
>> Dan
>>
>> On Sep 25,  2012, at 6:10 AM, Daniel Fore 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yea I commented on the bug report, IIRC.
>>
>> The biggest argument I heard for tabs on the right side was that the
>> mental model of the tabbar flow from most used to least used (just like the
>> toolbar). So when you insert a new tab, you are by-definition placing the
>> least-used (so far) tab on the left side in front of the most used (longest
>> open) tabs.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:50 AM, David Gomes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sergey,
>>
>> The other day we were talking about this on IRC and we almost changed
>> Daniel's mind I think. I'm not 100% sure of what he thinks now, but the
>> general opinion is to have tabs opening on the right on every single
>> application for consistency with 3rd party apps, because we read from left
>> to right and because adding tabs on the beginning makes our brain
>> reorganize the tab system (we have to +1 the position of every single tab,
>> since it gets changed).
>>
>> Those were some of the arguments presented.
>>
>> David "Munchor" Gomes
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 
>> <
>> ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just remembered - Ctrl+T adds tabs on the right of the current one,
>>> not on the left. This seems inconsistent to me. Is it a Granite bug or it
>>> should be fixed in the apps?
>>>
>>> --
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>>> OS architect @ elementary
>>>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Granite Release

[Craig]

+1 I don't have an awesome ui reason, but it sure goes against my intuition
when my tabs shift. If these decisions are made, I would like to see them
based in research rather than anecdotes, personally.
On Sep 24, 2012 9:16 PM, "ttosttos Sa"  wrote:

> Oopss... watch out for that argument.  It doesn't hold true for millions
> (should probably say billions) of people around the world :-)  I find the
> shifting of all tabs a bit unintuitive.  I personally find more natural
> that new tabs fill the empty space instead of shifting all the existing
> tabs.  In addition, double click on the empty tabbar space currently has
> the odd result of adding a tab far away from where the double click took
> place (which should be where the user attention is).
>
>
> --ttosttos
> ps. On a somewhat related note, I think the widget could benefit from some
> visual work.
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Voldyman  wrote:
>
>> Another argument can be that most of the languages we use are written
>> from left to right so our mental model dictates that the new things should
>> be on the right and the left side remains unchanged.
>> example.
>> we write
>> D
>> Da
>> Dan
>> -not
>> n
>> an
>> Dan
>>
>> On Sep 25,  2012, at 6:10 AM, Daniel Fore 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yea I commented on the bug report, IIRC.
>>
>> The biggest argument I heard for tabs on the right side was that the
>> mental model of the tabbar flow from most used to least used (just like the
>> toolbar). So when you insert a new tab, you are by-definition placing the
>> least-used (so far) tab on the left side in front of the most used (longest
>> open) tabs.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:50 AM, David Gomes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sergey,
>>
>> The other day we were talking about this on IRC and we almost changed
>> Daniel's mind I think. I'm not 100% sure of what he thinks now, but the
>> general opinion is to have tabs opening on the right on every single
>> application for consistency with 3rd party apps, because we read from left
>> to right and because adding tabs on the beginning makes our brain
>> reorganize the tab system (we have to +1 the position of every single tab,
>> since it gets changed).
>>
>> Those were some of the arguments presented.
>>
>> David "Munchor" Gomes
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 
>> <
>> ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just remembered - Ctrl+T adds tabs on the right of the current one,
>>> not on the left. This seems inconsistent to me. Is it a Granite bug or it
>>> should be fixed in the apps?
>>>
>>> --
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>>> OS architect @ elementary
>>>
>>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Granite Release

[Daniel Foré]

Keep in mind that for RTL languages the entire window layout should flip 
automagically :)

Best Regards,
Daniel Foré

El sep 24, 2012, a las 7:16 p.m., ttosttos Sa  escribió:

> Oopss... watch out for that argument.  It doesn't hold true for millions 
> (should probably say billions) of people around the world :-)  I find the 
> shifting of all tabs a bit unintuitive.  I personally find more natural that 
> new tabs fill the empty space instead of shifting all the existing tabs.  In 
> addition, double click on the empty tabbar space currently has the odd result 
> of adding a tab far away from where the double click took place (which should 
> be where the user attention is).
> 
> 
> --ttosttos
> ps. On a somewhat related note, I think the widget could benefit from some 
> visual work.
> 
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Voldyman  wrote:
>> Another argument can be that most of the languages we use are written from 
>> left to right so our mental model dictates that the new things should be on 
>> the right and the left side remains unchanged.
>> example.
>> we write 
>> D
>> Da
>> Dan
>> -not
>> n
>> an
>> Dan
>> 
>> On Sep 25,  2012, at 6:10 AM, Daniel Fore  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yea I commented on the bug report, IIRC.
>>> 
>>> The biggest argument I heard for tabs on the right side was that the mental 
>>> model of the tabbar flow from most used to least used (just like the 
>>> toolbar). So when you insert a new tab, you are by-definition placing the 
>>> least-used (so far) tab on the left side in front of the most used (longest 
>>> open) tabs.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:50 AM, David Gomes  wrote:
 Sergey,
 
 The other day we were talking about this on IRC and we almost changed 
 Daniel's mind I think. I'm not 100% sure of what he thinks now, but the 
 general opinion is to have tabs opening on the right on every single 
 application for consistency with 3rd party apps, because we read from left 
 to right and because adding tabs on the beginning makes our brain 
 reorganize the tab system (we have to +1 the position of every single tab, 
 since it gets changed).
 
 Those were some of the arguments presented.
 
 David "Munchor" Gomes
 
 On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 
  wrote:
> I've just remembered - Ctrl+T adds tabs on the right of the current one, 
> not on the left. This seems inconsistent to me. Is it a Granite bug or it 
> should be fixed in the apps?
> 
> -- 
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> OS architect @ elementary
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Granite Release

[ttosttos Sa]

Oopss... watch out for that argument.  It doesn't hold true for millions
(should probably say billions) of people around the world :-)  I find the
shifting of all tabs a bit unintuitive.  I personally find more natural
that new tabs fill the empty space instead of shifting all the existing
tabs.  In addition, double click on the empty tabbar space currently has
the odd result of adding a tab far away from where the double click took
place (which should be where the user attention is).


--ttosttos
ps. On a somewhat related note, I think the widget could benefit from some
visual work.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Voldyman  wrote:

> Another argument can be that most of the languages we use are written from
> left to right so our mental model dictates that the new things should be on
> the right and the left side remains unchanged.
> example.
> we write
> D
> Da
> Dan
> -not
> n
> an
> Dan
>
> On Sep 25,  2012, at 6:10 AM, Daniel Fore  wrote:
>
> Yea I commented on the bug report, IIRC.
>
> The biggest argument I heard for tabs on the right side was that the
> mental model of the tabbar flow from most used to least used (just like the
> toolbar). So when you insert a new tab, you are by-definition placing the
> least-used (so far) tab on the left side in front of the most used (longest
> open) tabs.
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:50 AM, David Gomes 
> wrote:
>
> Sergey,
>
> The other day we were talking about this on IRC and we almost changed
> Daniel's mind I think. I'm not 100% sure of what he thinks now, but the
> general opinion is to have tabs opening on the right on every single
> application for consistency with 3rd party apps, because we read from left
> to right and because adding tabs on the beginning makes our brain
> reorganize the tab system (we have to +1 the position of every single tab,
> since it gets changed).
>
> Those were some of the arguments presented.
>
> David "Munchor" Gomes
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 
> <
> ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote:
>
>> I've just remembered - Ctrl+T adds tabs on the right of the current one,
>> not on the left. This seems inconsistent to me. Is it a Granite bug or it
>> should be fixed in the apps?
>>
>> --
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>> OS architect @ elementary
>>
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Granite Release

[Voldyman]

Another argument can be that most of the languages we use are written from left 
to right so our mental model dictates that the new things should be on the 
right and the left side remains unchanged.
example.
we write 
D
Da
Dan
-not
n
an
Dan

On Sep 25,  2012, at 6:10 AM, Daniel Fore  wrote:

> Yea I commented on the bug report, IIRC.
> 
> The biggest argument I heard for tabs on the right side was that the mental 
> model of the tabbar flow from most used to least used (just like the 
> toolbar). So when you insert a new tab, you are by-definition placing the 
> least-used (so far) tab on the left side in front of the most used (longest 
> open) tabs.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:50 AM, David Gomes  wrote:
>> Sergey,
>> 
>> The other day we were talking about this on IRC and we almost changed 
>> Daniel's mind I think. I'm not 100% sure of what he thinks now, but the 
>> general opinion is to have tabs opening on the right on every single 
>> application for consistency with 3rd party apps, because we read from left 
>> to right and because adding tabs on the beginning makes our brain reorganize 
>> the tab system (we have to +1 the position of every single tab, since it 
>> gets changed).
>> 
>> Those were some of the arguments presented.
>> 
>> David "Munchor" Gomes
>> 
>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 
>>  wrote:
>> I've just remembered - Ctrl+T adds tabs on the right of the current one, not 
>> on the left. This seems inconsistent to me. Is it a Granite bug or it should 
>> be fixed in the apps?
>> 
>> -- 
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>> OS architect @ elementary
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

[Daniel Fore]

I'm down. My schedule is pretty tight, but if it's planned ahead of time I'll 
be there.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Cassidy James  
wrote:
Just a quick reminder to make sure you're choosing the correct timezone if 
you're responding to the Doodle poll; it'll localize everyone's times for you 
when you're viewing it.

Regards,
Cassidy James

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On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Cassidy James  
wrote:
To test the waters, I made a Doodle poll with some possible times for weekends. 
Although it has specific dates, just pay attention to the actual day. Make sure 
you expand it (there are a ton of options!).

http://doodle.com/cb4if7ayg68gun6v

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On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Voldyman  wrote:
Very good idea. I was talking to munchor about this.


On Sep 21, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Ivo Nunes  wrote:

Sounds like a great idea! :)

On 21 Sep 2012 18:09, "Sam Tate"  wrote:
I'm thinking that we could do a weekly/fortnightly Google+ Hangout on Air (like 
a live video podcast) about elementary.

We could first start off with any news or interesting items, then talk about 
concepts that we are thinking about, and then maybe answer some questions (kind 
of like an "Email In" thing).

We probably need about 4-6 people, and we could rotate every episode depending 
on who could do it that week.

Thoughts?

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Contractor Release

[Daniel Fore]

Yea I'm fine with that. Just trying to cross it off for beta1.

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff 
 wrote:
AFAIK Contractor doesn't have a lead dev, since the current codebase is written 
mostly by ammonkey.

I'm OK with marking the milestone released, but please don't make the release 
official. We have half of the stuff in 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kjpIHASnkcFnbzFp_Hs5ikeciK_t4YVdZfn4WCKai4c/edit
 targeted to beta2 and fixing that will result in file format changes, etc. 
Besides, I'm just not comfortable with calling the current state a release.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Granite Release

[Daniel Fore]

Yea I commented on the bug report, IIRC.

The biggest argument I heard for tabs on the right side was that the mental 
model of the tabbar flow from most used to least used (just like the toolbar). 
So when you insert a new tab, you are by-definition placing the least-used (so 
far) tab on the left side in front of the most used (longest open) tabs.

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:50 AM, David Gomes  wrote:
Sergey,

The other day we were talking about this on IRC and we almost changed Daniel's 
mind I think. I'm not 100% sure of what he thinks now, but the general opinion 
is to have tabs opening on the right on every single application for 
consistency with 3rd party apps, because we read from left to right and because 
adding tabs on the beginning makes our brain reorganize the tab system (we have 
to +1 the position of every single tab, since it gets changed).

Those were some of the arguments presented.

David "Munchor" Gomes

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 
 wrote:
I've just remembered - Ctrl+T adds tabs on the right of the current one, not on 
the left. This seems inconsistent to me. Is it a Granite bug or it should be 
fixed in the apps?

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Elementary-translators] Add the 8 most popular language packs to the ISO image

[Jakob Eriksson]

Ok, not exactly +1, but +0.5

I have failed several times and fell back on CD.



On September 24, 2012 at 4:25 PM Craig  wrote:
> I have never successfully made a live USB. I'm sure it's easy once you
> learn how to do it, but until it's foolproof, I think CD is the way to go.
> Moreover, a size limit does us to get rid of unnecessary bloat.
> On Sep 24, 2012 9:06 AM, "Chris Triantafillis" 
> wrote:
>
> > My opinion is that we should increase the size limit and encourage people
> > use USB rather than CD...
> > CD is harmfull for the enviroment too...
> >
> > 2012/9/24 Daniel Foré 
> >
> >> Alrighty, well if we think it'll fit, I'm down with adding more
> >> languages.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Daniel Foré
> >>
> >> El sep 23, 2012, a las 10:50 p.m., Eduard Gotwig 
> >> escribió:
> >>
> >> Daniel Fore:
> >>
> >> The stuff gets compressed with squashfs to like 1/3 of the original
> >> size.That means around 46/47 MB.
> >>
> >> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
> >>
> >>> Currently we want to fit on a CD, so 700MB
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Daniel Foré
> >>>
> >>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:32 p.m., Chris Triantafillis <
> >>> christriant1...@gmail.com> escribió:
> >>>
> >>>  What is the size limit?
> >>>
> >>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
> >>>
>  Sounds like we really don't have room for that. We have room for 50
>  more MB. So maybe we can choose like 3?
> 
>  Best Regards,
>  Daniel Foré
> 
>  El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:25 p.m., Eduard Gotwig <
>  eduardgot...@gmail.com> escribió:
> 
>  I included here Russian as well, couse its used quite often:
> >
> > 140 MB are going to be used after this operation by apt-get : sudo
> > apt-get --no-install-recommends --download-only install
> > language-pack-gnome-pl  language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it
> > language-pack-gnome-ru language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr
> > language-pack-gnome-pt language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en
> >
> > When someone wants to test that, go for it and include it in your
> > custom build with congrego ;)
> >
> >
> > 2012/9/23 Craig 
> >
> >> I think American English is pretty standard in computing, even
> >> internationally. Not that it will be a serious impediment d either
> >> way.
> >> On Sep 23, 2012 1:28 PM, "David Gomes" 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> First of all, English and Portuguese will be a problem. How can we
> >>> decide which "version" of English and Portuguese to include? Sure,
> >>> Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the world, but
> >>> it's not
> >>> because of the roughly 10 million inhabitants of Portugal, it's more
> >>> due to
> >>> the 200 million inhabitants of Brazil. So, we'd probably include
> >>> Brazillian
> >>> Portuguese.
> >>>
> >>> But English would be harder. There are more Americans than British,
> >>> but a lot of people are anti-American English or so.
> >>>
> >>> The whole move of including 8 languages. I'm not sure, I'd like to
> >>> know how much space that is.
> >>>
> >>> David "Munchor" Gomes
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eduard Gotwig <
> >>> eduardgot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> 
> 
>  2012/9/23 Eduard Gotwig 
> 
> > Hey,
> >
> > I think about if we can add the 8 most popular languagee packs for
> > GNOME to the ISO image? There is still space left.
> >
> > These 8 languages should be the ones, that are available on our
> > new website:
> >
> >
> >- [image: English]English
> >- [image: Français]Français
> >- [image: Deutsch]Deutsch
> >- [image: Italiano]Italiano
> >- [image: Español]Español
> >- [image: Português]Português
> >- [image: Polski]Polski
> >- [image: Nederlands]Nederlands
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We cant include all, becouse they take too much space I guess.
> >
> 
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Elementary-translators] Add the 8 most popular language packs to the ISO image

[Eduard Gotwig]

I would be very happy if someone can PLEASE just test this with congrego,
becouse since congregos name is "congrego" I were NEVER able to do a build.

apt-get --no-install-recommends install language-pack-gnome-pl
language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it language-pack-gnome-ru
language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr language-pack-gnome-pt
language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en

2012/9/24 Voldyman 

>
>
> On Sep 24, 2012, at 7:40 PM, "satch...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> I think CDs are obsolete technology. Even here in India, CDs are slowly
> being phased out as the price of USB drives drops daily.
>
> You are partially correct CD are being phased out but
> it is not yet possible to distribute an os as USB right now.
> I have promised many students a copy of Luna CD which i can easily provide
> and not everyone has a spare USB disk for an os.
>
> USB drives are reusable, install and run OSes faster and, as Chris
> Triantafillis points out, are less harmful to the environment.
>
> If elementary is trying to be disciplined about the image size (as Ubuntu
> is), then I respect that. But there's no need to adhere to such an ancient
> and restrictive limit.
>
> On 24 September 2012 19:35, Chris Triantafillis <
> christriant1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My opinion is that we should increase the size limit and encourage people
>> use USB rather than CD...
>> CD is harmfull for the enviroment too...
>>
>>
>> 2012/9/24 Daniel Foré < dan...@elementaryos.org>
>>
>>> Alrighty, well if we think it'll fit, I'm down with adding more
>>> languages.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Daniel Foré
>>>
>>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 10:50 p.m., Eduard Gotwig <
>>> eduardgot...@gmail.com> escribió:
>>>
>>> Daniel Fore:
>>>
>>> The stuff gets compressed with squashfs to like 1/3 of the original
>>> size.That means around 46/47 MB.
>>>
>>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré < dan...@elementaryos.org
>>> >
>>>
 Currently we want to fit on a CD, so 700MB

 Best Regards,
 Daniel Foré

 El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:32 p.m., Chris Triantafillis 
 <
 christriant1...@gmail.com> escribió:

  What is the size limit?

 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré < 
 dan...@elementaryos.org>

> Sounds like we really don't have room for that. We have room for 50
> more MB. So maybe we can choose like 3?
>
> Best Regards,
> Daniel Foré
>
> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:25 p.m., Eduard Gotwig <
> eduardgot...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
> I included here Russian as well, couse its used quite often:
>>
>> 140 MB are going to be used after this operation by apt-get : sudo
>> apt-get --no-install-recommends --download-only install
>> language-pack-gnome-pl  language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it
>> language-pack-gnome-ru language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr
>> language-pack-gnome-pt language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en
>>
>> When someone wants to test that, go for it and include it in your
>> custom build with congrego ;)
>>
>>
>> 2012/9/23 Craig < webe...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> I think American English is pretty standard in computing, even
>>> internationally. Not that it will be a serious impediment d either way.
>>> On Sep 23, 2012 1:28 PM, "David Gomes" < 
>>> da...@elementaryos.org> wrote:
>>>
 First of all, English and Portuguese will be a problem. How can we
 decide which "version" of English and Portuguese to include? Sure,
 Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the world, but it's 
 not
 because of the roughly 10 million inhabitants of Portugal, it's more 
 due to
 the 200 million inhabitants of Brazil. So, we'd probably include 
 Brazillian
 Portuguese.

 But English would be harder. There are more Americans than British,
 but a lot of people are anti-American English or so.

 The whole move of including 8 languages. I'm not sure, I'd like to
 know how much space that is.

 David "Munchor" Gomes

 On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eduard Gotwig 
 <
 eduardgot...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2012/9/23 Eduard Gotwig < got...@ubuntu.com>
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I think about if we can add the 8 most popular languagee packs
>> for GNOME to the ISO image? There is still space left.
>>
>> These 8 languages should be the ones, that are available on our
>> new website:
>>
>>
>>- [image: English]English
>>- [image: Français]Français
>>- [image: Deutsch]Deutsch
>>- [image: Italiano]Italiano
>>- [image: Español]Español
>>- [image: Português]Português
>>- [image: Polski]Polski
>>- [image: Nederlands]Nederlands
>>
>>
>

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Elementary-translators] Add the 8 most popular language packs to the ISO image

[Voldyman]

On Sep 24, 2012, at 7:40 PM, "satch...@gmail.com"  wrote:

> I think CDs are obsolete technology. Even here in India, CDs are slowly being 
> phased out as the price of USB drives drops daily.
You are partially correct CD are being phased out but
it is not yet possible to distribute an os as USB right now.
I have promised many students a copy of Luna CD which i can easily provide and 
not everyone has a spare USB disk for an os.

> USB drives are reusable, install and run OSes faster and, as Chris 
> Triantafillis points out, are less harmful to the environment.
> 
> If elementary is trying to be disciplined about the image size (as Ubuntu 
> is), then I respect that. But there's no need to adhere to such an ancient 
> and restrictive limit.
> 
> On 24 September 2012 19:35, Chris Triantafillis  
> wrote:
> My opinion is that we should increase the size limit and encourage people use 
> USB rather than CD...
> CD is harmfull for the enviroment too...
> 
> 
> 2012/9/24 Daniel Foré 
> Alrighty, well if we think it'll fit, I'm down with adding more languages. 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Daniel Foré
> 
> El sep 23, 2012, a las 10:50 p.m., Eduard Gotwig  
> escribió:
> 
>> Daniel Fore:
>> 
>> The stuff gets compressed with squashfs to like 1/3 of the original 
>> size.That means around 46/47 MB.
>> 
>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>> Currently we want to fit on a CD, so 700MB
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Daniel Foré
>> 
>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:32 p.m., Chris Triantafillis 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>>> What is the size limit?
>>> 
>>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>>> Sounds like we really don't have room for that. We have room for 50 more 
>>> MB. So maybe we can choose like 3?
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Daniel Foré
>>> 
>>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:25 p.m., Eduard Gotwig  
>>> escribió:
>>> 
 I included here Russian as well, couse its used quite often:
 
 140 MB are going to be used after this operation by apt-get : sudo apt-get 
 --no-install-recommends --download-only install language-pack-gnome-pl  
 language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it language-pack-gnome-ru 
 language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr language-pack-gnome-pt 
 language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en
 
 When someone wants to test that, go for it and include it in your custom 
 build with congrego ;)
 
 
 2012/9/23 Craig 
 I think American English is pretty standard in computing, even 
 internationally. Not that it will be a serious impediment d either way.
 
 On Sep 23, 2012 1:28 PM, "David Gomes"  wrote:
 First of all, English and Portuguese will be a problem. How can we decide 
 which "version" of English and Portuguese to include? Sure, Portuguese is 
 one of the most spoken languages in the world, but it's not because of the 
 roughly 10 million inhabitants of Portugal, it's more due to the 200 
 million inhabitants of Brazil. So, we'd probably include Brazillian 
 Portuguese.
 
 But English would be harder. There are more Americans than British, but a 
 lot of people are anti-American English or so.
 
 The whole move of including 8 languages. I'm not sure, I'd like to know 
 how much space that is.
 
 David "Munchor" Gomes
 
 On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eduard Gotwig  
 wrote:
 
 
 2012/9/23 Eduard Gotwig 
 Hey,
 
 I think about if we can add the 8 most popular languagee packs for GNOME 
 to the ISO image? There is still space left.
 
 These 8 languages should be the ones, that are available on our new 
 website:
 
 EnglishFrançaisDeutschItalianoEspañolPortuguêsPolskiNederlands
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 We cant include all, becouse they take too much space I guess.
 
 
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Elementary-translators] Add the 8 most popular language packs to the ISO image

[Craig]

If we keep the CD size limit, people can be free to choose their medium
while still discouraging bloat.
On Sep 24, 2012 9:11 AM, "satch...@gmail.com"  wrote:

> I think CDs are obsolete technology. Even here in India, CDs are slowly
> being phased out as the price of USB drives drops daily. USB drives are
> reusable, install and run OSes faster and, as Chris Triantafillis points
> out, are less harmful to the environment.
>
> If elementary is trying to be disciplined about the image size (as Ubuntu
> is), then I respect that. But there's no need to adhere to such an ancient
> and restrictive limit.
>
> On 24 September 2012 19:35, Chris Triantafillis  > wrote:
>
>> My opinion is that we should increase the size limit and encourage people
>> use USB rather than CD...
>> CD is harmfull for the enviroment too...
>>
>>
>> 2012/9/24 Daniel Foré 
>>
>>> Alrighty, well if we think it'll fit, I'm down with adding more
>>> languages.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Daniel Foré
>>>
>>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 10:50 p.m., Eduard Gotwig 
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Daniel Fore:
>>>
>>> The stuff gets compressed with squashfs to like 1/3 of the original
>>> size.That means around 46/47 MB.
>>>
>>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>>>
 Currently we want to fit on a CD, so 700MB

 Best Regards,
 Daniel Foré

 El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:32 p.m., Chris Triantafillis <
 christriant1...@gmail.com> escribió:

  What is the size limit?

 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 

> Sounds like we really don't have room for that. We have room for 50
> more MB. So maybe we can choose like 3?
>
> Best Regards,
> Daniel Foré
>
> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:25 p.m., Eduard Gotwig <
> eduardgot...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
> I included here Russian as well, couse its used quite often:
>>
>> 140 MB are going to be used after this operation by apt-get : sudo
>> apt-get --no-install-recommends --download-only install
>> language-pack-gnome-pl  language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it
>> language-pack-gnome-ru language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr
>> language-pack-gnome-pt language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en
>>
>> When someone wants to test that, go for it and include it in your
>> custom build with congrego ;)
>>
>>
>> 2012/9/23 Craig 
>>
>>> I think American English is pretty standard in computing, even
>>> internationally. Not that it will be a serious impediment d either way.
>>> On Sep 23, 2012 1:28 PM, "David Gomes" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 First of all, English and Portuguese will be a problem. How can we
 decide which "version" of English and Portuguese to include? Sure,
 Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the world, but it's 
 not
 because of the roughly 10 million inhabitants of Portugal, it's more 
 due to
 the 200 million inhabitants of Brazil. So, we'd probably include 
 Brazillian
 Portuguese.

 But English would be harder. There are more Americans than British,
 but a lot of people are anti-American English or so.

 The whole move of including 8 languages. I'm not sure, I'd like to
 know how much space that is.

 David "Munchor" Gomes

 On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eduard Gotwig <
 eduardgot...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2012/9/23 Eduard Gotwig 
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I think about if we can add the 8 most popular languagee packs
>> for GNOME to the ISO image? There is still space left.
>>
>> These 8 languages should be the ones, that are available on our
>> new website:
>>
>>
>>- [image: English]English
>>- [image: Français]Français
>>- [image: Deutsch]Deutsch
>>- [image: Italiano]Italiano
>>- [image: Español]Español
>>- [image: Português]Português
>>- [image: Polski]Polski
>>- [image: Nederlands]Nederlands
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We cant include all, becouse they take too much space I guess.
>>
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Elementary-translators] Add the 8 most popular language packs to the ISO image

[David Gomes]

It's very easy, I've never even tried CD. Still, I think we have to support
CDs too, it will be another +1 regarding Ubuntu.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Craig  wrote:

> I have never successfully made a live USB. I'm sure it's easy once you
> learn how to do it, but until it's foolproof, I think CD is the way to go.
> Moreover, a size limit does us to get rid of unnecessary bloat.
> On Sep 24, 2012 9:06 AM, "Chris Triantafillis" 
> wrote:
>
>> My opinion is that we should increase the size limit and encourage people
>> use USB rather than CD...
>> CD is harmfull for the enviroment too...
>>
>> 2012/9/24 Daniel Foré 
>>
>>> Alrighty, well if we think it'll fit, I'm down with adding more
>>> languages.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Daniel Foré
>>>
>>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 10:50 p.m., Eduard Gotwig 
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Daniel Fore:
>>>
>>> The stuff gets compressed with squashfs to like 1/3 of the original
>>> size.That means around 46/47 MB.
>>>
>>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>>>
 Currently we want to fit on a CD, so 700MB

 Best Regards,
 Daniel Foré

 El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:32 p.m., Chris Triantafillis <
 christriant1...@gmail.com> escribió:

  What is the size limit?

 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 

> Sounds like we really don't have room for that. We have room for 50
> more MB. So maybe we can choose like 3?
>
> Best Regards,
> Daniel Foré
>
> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:25 p.m., Eduard Gotwig <
> eduardgot...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
> I included here Russian as well, couse its used quite often:
>>
>> 140 MB are going to be used after this operation by apt-get : sudo
>> apt-get --no-install-recommends --download-only install
>> language-pack-gnome-pl  language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it
>> language-pack-gnome-ru language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr
>> language-pack-gnome-pt language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en
>>
>> When someone wants to test that, go for it and include it in your
>> custom build with congrego ;)
>>
>>
>> 2012/9/23 Craig 
>>
>>> I think American English is pretty standard in computing, even
>>> internationally. Not that it will be a serious impediment d either way.
>>> On Sep 23, 2012 1:28 PM, "David Gomes" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 First of all, English and Portuguese will be a problem. How can we
 decide which "version" of English and Portuguese to include? Sure,
 Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the world, but it's 
 not
 because of the roughly 10 million inhabitants of Portugal, it's more 
 due to
 the 200 million inhabitants of Brazil. So, we'd probably include 
 Brazillian
 Portuguese.

 But English would be harder. There are more Americans than British,
 but a lot of people are anti-American English or so.

 The whole move of including 8 languages. I'm not sure, I'd like to
 know how much space that is.

 David "Munchor" Gomes

 On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eduard Gotwig <
 eduardgot...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2012/9/23 Eduard Gotwig 
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I think about if we can add the 8 most popular languagee packs
>> for GNOME to the ISO image? There is still space left.
>>
>> These 8 languages should be the ones, that are available on our
>> new website:
>>
>>
>>- [image: English]English
>>- [image: Français]Français
>>- [image: Deutsch]Deutsch
>>- [image: Italiano]Italiano
>>- [image: Español]Español
>>- [image: Português]Português
>>- [image: Polski]Polski
>>- [image: Nederlands]Nederlands
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We cant include all, becouse they take too much space I guess.
>>
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Elementary-translators] Add the 8 most popular language packs to the ISO image

[Craig]

I have never successfully made a live USB. I'm sure it's easy once you
learn how to do it, but until it's foolproof, I think CD is the way to go.
Moreover, a size limit does us to get rid of unnecessary bloat.
On Sep 24, 2012 9:06 AM, "Chris Triantafillis" 
wrote:

> My opinion is that we should increase the size limit and encourage people
> use USB rather than CD...
> CD is harmfull for the enviroment too...
>
> 2012/9/24 Daniel Foré 
>
>> Alrighty, well if we think it'll fit, I'm down with adding more
>> languages.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Daniel Foré
>>
>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 10:50 p.m., Eduard Gotwig 
>> escribió:
>>
>> Daniel Fore:
>>
>> The stuff gets compressed with squashfs to like 1/3 of the original
>> size.That means around 46/47 MB.
>>
>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>>
>>> Currently we want to fit on a CD, so 700MB
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Daniel Foré
>>>
>>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:32 p.m., Chris Triantafillis <
>>> christriant1...@gmail.com> escribió:
>>>
>>>  What is the size limit?
>>>
>>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>>>
 Sounds like we really don't have room for that. We have room for 50
 more MB. So maybe we can choose like 3?

 Best Regards,
 Daniel Foré

 El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:25 p.m., Eduard Gotwig <
 eduardgot...@gmail.com> escribió:

 I included here Russian as well, couse its used quite often:
>
> 140 MB are going to be used after this operation by apt-get : sudo
> apt-get --no-install-recommends --download-only install
> language-pack-gnome-pl  language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it
> language-pack-gnome-ru language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr
> language-pack-gnome-pt language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en
>
> When someone wants to test that, go for it and include it in your
> custom build with congrego ;)
>
>
> 2012/9/23 Craig 
>
>> I think American English is pretty standard in computing, even
>> internationally. Not that it will be a serious impediment d either way.
>> On Sep 23, 2012 1:28 PM, "David Gomes" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> First of all, English and Portuguese will be a problem. How can we
>>> decide which "version" of English and Portuguese to include? Sure,
>>> Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the world, but it's 
>>> not
>>> because of the roughly 10 million inhabitants of Portugal, it's more 
>>> due to
>>> the 200 million inhabitants of Brazil. So, we'd probably include 
>>> Brazillian
>>> Portuguese.
>>>
>>> But English would be harder. There are more Americans than British,
>>> but a lot of people are anti-American English or so.
>>>
>>> The whole move of including 8 languages. I'm not sure, I'd like to
>>> know how much space that is.
>>>
>>> David "Munchor" Gomes
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eduard Gotwig <
>>> eduardgot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>


 2012/9/23 Eduard Gotwig 

> Hey,
>
> I think about if we can add the 8 most popular languagee packs for
> GNOME to the ISO image? There is still space left.
>
> These 8 languages should be the ones, that are available on our
> new website:
>
>
>- [image: English]English
>- [image: Français]Français
>- [image: Deutsch]Deutsch
>- [image: Italiano]Italiano
>- [image: Español]Español
>- [image: Português]Português
>- [image: Polski]Polski
>- [image: Nederlands]Nederlands
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We cant include all, becouse they take too much space I guess.
>


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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Elementary-translators] Add the 8 most popular language packs to the ISO image

[Cassidy James]

As Dan said, we've already promised CDs this cycle. In addition, yes, that
forces us to be disciplined about image size. But the main issue is that
we've already promised CDs. ;)
On Sep 24, 2012 9:11 AM, "satch...@gmail.com"  wrote:

> I think CDs are obsolete technology. Even here in India, CDs are slowly
> being phased out as the price of USB drives drops daily. USB drives are
> reusable, install and run OSes faster and, as Chris Triantafillis points
> out, are less harmful to the environment.
>
> If elementary is trying to be disciplined about the image size (as Ubuntu
> is), then I respect that. But there's no need to adhere to such an ancient
> and restrictive limit.
>
> On 24 September 2012 19:35, Chris Triantafillis  > wrote:
>
>> My opinion is that we should increase the size limit and encourage people
>> use USB rather than CD...
>> CD is harmfull for the enviroment too...
>>
>>
>> 2012/9/24 Daniel Foré 
>>
>>> Alrighty, well if we think it'll fit, I'm down with adding more
>>> languages.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Daniel Foré
>>>
>>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 10:50 p.m., Eduard Gotwig 
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Daniel Fore:
>>>
>>> The stuff gets compressed with squashfs to like 1/3 of the original
>>> size.That means around 46/47 MB.
>>>
>>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>>>
 Currently we want to fit on a CD, so 700MB

 Best Regards,
 Daniel Foré

 El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:32 p.m., Chris Triantafillis <
 christriant1...@gmail.com> escribió:

  What is the size limit?

 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 

> Sounds like we really don't have room for that. We have room for 50
> more MB. So maybe we can choose like 3?
>
> Best Regards,
> Daniel Foré
>
> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:25 p.m., Eduard Gotwig <
> eduardgot...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
> I included here Russian as well, couse its used quite often:
>>
>> 140 MB are going to be used after this operation by apt-get : sudo
>> apt-get --no-install-recommends --download-only install
>> language-pack-gnome-pl  language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it
>> language-pack-gnome-ru language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr
>> language-pack-gnome-pt language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en
>>
>> When someone wants to test that, go for it and include it in your
>> custom build with congrego ;)
>>
>>
>> 2012/9/23 Craig 
>>
>>> I think American English is pretty standard in computing, even
>>> internationally. Not that it will be a serious impediment d either way.
>>> On Sep 23, 2012 1:28 PM, "David Gomes" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 First of all, English and Portuguese will be a problem. How can we
 decide which "version" of English and Portuguese to include? Sure,
 Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the world, but it's 
 not
 because of the roughly 10 million inhabitants of Portugal, it's more 
 due to
 the 200 million inhabitants of Brazil. So, we'd probably include 
 Brazillian
 Portuguese.

 But English would be harder. There are more Americans than British,
 but a lot of people are anti-American English or so.

 The whole move of including 8 languages. I'm not sure, I'd like to
 know how much space that is.

 David "Munchor" Gomes

 On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eduard Gotwig <
 eduardgot...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2012/9/23 Eduard Gotwig 
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I think about if we can add the 8 most popular languagee packs
>> for GNOME to the ISO image? There is still space left.
>>
>> These 8 languages should be the ones, that are available on our
>> new website:
>>
>>
>>- [image: English]English
>>- [image: Français]Français
>>- [image: Deutsch]Deutsch
>>- [image: Italiano]Italiano
>>- [image: Español]Español
>>- [image: Português]Português
>>- [image: Polski]Polski
>>- [image: Nederlands]Nederlands
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We cant include all, becouse they take too much space I guess.
>>
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Elementary-translators] Add the 8 most popular language packs to the ISO image

[Chris Triantafillis]

Oh, i didn't know that...

2012/9/24 Daniel Foré 

> We can't for this cycle because we already promised we'd ship CD's. next
> cycle we can have the discussion about image size.
>
> Best Regards,
> Daniel Foré
>
> El sep 24, 2012, a las 7:05 a.m., Chris Triantafillis <
> christriant1...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
> My opinion is that we should increase the size limit and encourage people
> use USB rather than CD...
> CD is harmfull for the enviroment too...
>
> 2012/9/24 Daniel Foré 
>
>> Alrighty, well if we think it'll fit, I'm down with adding more
>> languages.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Daniel Foré
>>
>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 10:50 p.m., Eduard Gotwig 
>> escribió:
>>
>> Daniel Fore:
>>
>> The stuff gets compressed with squashfs to like 1/3 of the original
>> size.That means around 46/47 MB.
>>
>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>>
>>> Currently we want to fit on a CD, so 700MB
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Daniel Foré
>>>
>>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:32 p.m., Chris Triantafillis <
>>> christriant1...@gmail.com> escribió:
>>>
>>>  What is the size limit?
>>>
>>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>>>
 Sounds like we really don't have room for that. We have room for 50
 more MB. So maybe we can choose like 3?

 Best Regards,
 Daniel Foré

 El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:25 p.m., Eduard Gotwig <
 eduardgot...@gmail.com> escribió:

 I included here Russian as well, couse its used quite often:
>
> 140 MB are going to be used after this operation by apt-get : sudo
> apt-get --no-install-recommends --download-only install
> language-pack-gnome-pl  language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it
> language-pack-gnome-ru language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr
> language-pack-gnome-pt language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en
>
> When someone wants to test that, go for it and include it in your
> custom build with congrego ;)
>
>
> 2012/9/23 Craig 
>
>> I think American English is pretty standard in computing, even
>> internationally. Not that it will be a serious impediment d either way.
>> On Sep 23, 2012 1:28 PM, "David Gomes" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> First of all, English and Portuguese will be a problem. How can we
>>> decide which "version" of English and Portuguese to include? Sure,
>>> Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the world, but it's 
>>> not
>>> because of the roughly 10 million inhabitants of Portugal, it's more 
>>> due to
>>> the 200 million inhabitants of Brazil. So, we'd probably include 
>>> Brazillian
>>> Portuguese.
>>>
>>> But English would be harder. There are more Americans than British,
>>> but a lot of people are anti-American English or so.
>>>
>>> The whole move of including 8 languages. I'm not sure, I'd like to
>>> know how much space that is.
>>>
>>> David "Munchor" Gomes
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eduard Gotwig <
>>> eduardgot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>


 2012/9/23 Eduard Gotwig 

> Hey,
>
> I think about if we can add the 8 most popular languagee packs for
> GNOME to the ISO image? There is still space left.
>
> These 8 languages should be the ones, that are available on our
> new website:
>
>
>- [image: English]English
>- [image: Français]Français
>- [image: Deutsch]Deutsch
>- [image: Italiano]Italiano
>- [image: Español]Español
>- [image: Português]Português
>- [image: Polski]Polski
>- [image: Nederlands]Nederlands
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We cant include all, becouse they take too much space I guess.
>


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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Elementary-translators] Add the 8 most popular language packs to the ISO image

[satch...@gmail.com]

I think CDs are obsolete technology. Even here in India, CDs are slowly
being phased out as the price of USB drives drops daily. USB drives are
reusable, install and run OSes faster and, as Chris Triantafillis points
out, are less harmful to the environment.

If elementary is trying to be disciplined about the image size (as Ubuntu
is), then I respect that. But there's no need to adhere to such an ancient
and restrictive limit.

On 24 September 2012 19:35, Chris Triantafillis
wrote:

> My opinion is that we should increase the size limit and encourage people
> use USB rather than CD...
> CD is harmfull for the enviroment too...
>
>
> 2012/9/24 Daniel Foré 
>
>> Alrighty, well if we think it'll fit, I'm down with adding more
>> languages.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Daniel Foré
>>
>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 10:50 p.m., Eduard Gotwig 
>> escribió:
>>
>> Daniel Fore:
>>
>> The stuff gets compressed with squashfs to like 1/3 of the original
>> size.That means around 46/47 MB.
>>
>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>>
>>> Currently we want to fit on a CD, so 700MB
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Daniel Foré
>>>
>>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:32 p.m., Chris Triantafillis <
>>> christriant1...@gmail.com> escribió:
>>>
>>>  What is the size limit?
>>>
>>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>>>
 Sounds like we really don't have room for that. We have room for 50
 more MB. So maybe we can choose like 3?

 Best Regards,
 Daniel Foré

 El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:25 p.m., Eduard Gotwig <
 eduardgot...@gmail.com> escribió:

 I included here Russian as well, couse its used quite often:
>
> 140 MB are going to be used after this operation by apt-get : sudo
> apt-get --no-install-recommends --download-only install
> language-pack-gnome-pl  language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it
> language-pack-gnome-ru language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr
> language-pack-gnome-pt language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en
>
> When someone wants to test that, go for it and include it in your
> custom build with congrego ;)
>
>
> 2012/9/23 Craig 
>
>> I think American English is pretty standard in computing, even
>> internationally. Not that it will be a serious impediment d either way.
>> On Sep 23, 2012 1:28 PM, "David Gomes" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> First of all, English and Portuguese will be a problem. How can we
>>> decide which "version" of English and Portuguese to include? Sure,
>>> Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the world, but it's 
>>> not
>>> because of the roughly 10 million inhabitants of Portugal, it's more 
>>> due to
>>> the 200 million inhabitants of Brazil. So, we'd probably include 
>>> Brazillian
>>> Portuguese.
>>>
>>> But English would be harder. There are more Americans than British,
>>> but a lot of people are anti-American English or so.
>>>
>>> The whole move of including 8 languages. I'm not sure, I'd like to
>>> know how much space that is.
>>>
>>> David "Munchor" Gomes
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eduard Gotwig <
>>> eduardgot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>


 2012/9/23 Eduard Gotwig 

> Hey,
>
> I think about if we can add the 8 most popular languagee packs for
> GNOME to the ISO image? There is still space left.
>
> These 8 languages should be the ones, that are available on our
> new website:
>
>
>- [image: English]English
>- [image: Français]Français
>- [image: Deutsch]Deutsch
>- [image: Italiano]Italiano
>- [image: Español]Español
>- [image: Português]Português
>- [image: Polski]Polski
>- [image: Nederlands]Nederlands
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We cant include all, becouse they take too much space I guess.
>


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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Elementary-translators] Add the 8 most popular language packs to the ISO image

[Daniel Foré]

We can't for this cycle because we already promised we'd ship CD's. next cycle 
we can have the discussion about image size. 

Best Regards,
Daniel Foré

El sep 24, 2012, a las 7:05 a.m., Chris Triantafillis 
 escribió:

> My opinion is that we should increase the size limit and encourage people use 
> USB rather than CD...
> CD is harmfull for the enviroment too...
> 
> 2012/9/24 Daniel Foré 
>> Alrighty, well if we think it'll fit, I'm down with adding more languages. 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Daniel Foré
>> 
>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 10:50 p.m., Eduard Gotwig  
>> escribió:
>> 
>>> Daniel Fore:
>>> 
>>> The stuff gets compressed with squashfs to like 1/3 of the original 
>>> size.That means around 46/47 MB.
>>> 
>>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
 Currently we want to fit on a CD, so 700MB
 
 Best Regards,
 Daniel Foré
 
 El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:32 p.m., Chris Triantafillis 
  escribió:
 
> What is the size limit?
> 
> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>> Sounds like we really don't have room for that. We have room for 50 more 
>> MB. So maybe we can choose like 3?
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Daniel Foré
>> 
>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:25 p.m., Eduard Gotwig 
>>  escribió:
>> 
 I included here Russian as well, couse its used quite often:
 
 140 MB are going to be used after this operation by apt-get : sudo 
 apt-get --no-install-recommends --download-only install 
 language-pack-gnome-pl  language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it 
 language-pack-gnome-ru language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr 
 language-pack-gnome-pt language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en
 
 When someone wants to test that, go for it and include it in your 
 custom build with congrego ;)
 
 
 2012/9/23 Craig 
> I think American English is pretty standard in computing, even 
> internationally. Not that it will be a serious impediment d either 
> way.
> 
> On Sep 23, 2012 1:28 PM, "David Gomes"  wrote:
>> First of all, English and Portuguese will be a problem. How can we 
>> decide which "version" of English and Portuguese to include? Sure, 
>> Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the world, but 
>> it's not because of the roughly 10 million inhabitants of Portugal, 
>> it's more due to the 200 million inhabitants of Brazil. So, we'd 
>> probably include Brazillian Portuguese.
>> 
>> But English would be harder. There are more Americans than British, 
>> but a lot of people are anti-American English or so.
>> 
>> The whole move of including 8 languages. I'm not sure, I'd like to 
>> know how much space that is.
>> 
>> David "Munchor" Gomes
>> 
>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eduard Gotwig 
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2012/9/23 Eduard Gotwig 
 Hey,
 
 I think about if we can add the 8 most popular languagee packs for 
 GNOME to the ISO image? There is still space left.
 
 These 8 languages should be the ones, that are available on our 
 new website:
 
 EnglishFrançaisDeutschItalianoEspañolPortuguêsPolskiNederlands
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 We cant include all, becouse they take too much space I guess.
>>> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Elementary-translators] Add the 8 most popular language packs to the ISO image

[Chris Triantafillis]

My opinion is that we should increase the size limit and encourage people
use USB rather than CD...
CD is harmfull for the enviroment too...

2012/9/24 Daniel Foré 

> Alrighty, well if we think it'll fit, I'm down with adding more languages.
>
> Best Regards,
> Daniel Foré
>
> El sep 23, 2012, a las 10:50 p.m., Eduard Gotwig 
> escribió:
>
> Daniel Fore:
>
> The stuff gets compressed with squashfs to like 1/3 of the original
> size.That means around 46/47 MB.
>
> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>
>> Currently we want to fit on a CD, so 700MB
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Daniel Foré
>>
>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:32 p.m., Chris Triantafillis <
>> christriant1...@gmail.com> escribió:
>>
>>  What is the size limit?
>>
>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>>
>>> Sounds like we really don't have room for that. We have room for 50 more
>>> MB. So maybe we can choose like 3?
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Daniel Foré
>>>
>>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:25 p.m., Eduard Gotwig 
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> I included here Russian as well, couse its used quite often:

 140 MB are going to be used after this operation by apt-get : sudo
 apt-get --no-install-recommends --download-only install
 language-pack-gnome-pl  language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it
 language-pack-gnome-ru language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr
 language-pack-gnome-pt language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en

 When someone wants to test that, go for it and include it in your
 custom build with congrego ;)


 2012/9/23 Craig 

> I think American English is pretty standard in computing, even
> internationally. Not that it will be a serious impediment d either way.
> On Sep 23, 2012 1:28 PM, "David Gomes"  wrote:
>
>> First of all, English and Portuguese will be a problem. How can we
>> decide which "version" of English and Portuguese to include? Sure,
>> Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the world, but it's not
>> because of the roughly 10 million inhabitants of Portugal, it's more due 
>> to
>> the 200 million inhabitants of Brazil. So, we'd probably include 
>> Brazillian
>> Portuguese.
>>
>> But English would be harder. There are more Americans than British,
>> but a lot of people are anti-American English or so.
>>
>> The whole move of including 8 languages. I'm not sure, I'd like to
>> know how much space that is.
>>
>> David "Munchor" Gomes
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eduard Gotwig <
>> eduardgot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/9/23 Eduard Gotwig 
>>>
 Hey,

 I think about if we can add the 8 most popular languagee packs for
 GNOME to the ISO image? There is still space left.

 These 8 languages should be the ones, that are available on our new
 website:


- [image: English]English
- [image: Français]Français
- [image: Deutsch]Deutsch
- [image: Italiano]Italiano
- [image: Español]Español
- [image: Português]Português
- [image: Polski]Polski
- [image: Nederlands]Nederlands













 We cant include all, becouse they take too much space I guess.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Elementary-translators] Add the 8 most popular language packs to the ISO image

[Daniel Foré]

Alrighty, well if we think it'll fit, I'm down with adding more languages. 

Best Regards,
Daniel Foré

El sep 23, 2012, a las 10:50 p.m., Eduard Gotwig  
escribió:

> Daniel Fore:
> 
> The stuff gets compressed with squashfs to like 1/3 of the original size.That 
> means around 46/47 MB.
> 
> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
>> Currently we want to fit on a CD, so 700MB
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Daniel Foré
>> 
>> El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:32 p.m., Chris Triantafillis 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>>> What is the size limit?
>>> 
>>> 2012/9/23 Daniel Foré 
 Sounds like we really don't have room for that. We have room for 50 more 
 MB. So maybe we can choose like 3?
 
 Best Regards,
 Daniel Foré
 
 El sep 23, 2012, a las 12:25 p.m., Eduard Gotwig  
 escribió:
 
>> I included here Russian as well, couse its used quite often:
>> 
>> 140 MB are going to be used after this operation by apt-get : sudo 
>> apt-get --no-install-recommends --download-only install 
>> language-pack-gnome-pl  language-pack-gnome-es language-pack-gnome-it 
>> language-pack-gnome-ru language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-fr 
>> language-pack-gnome-pt language-pack-gnome-de language-pack-gnome-en
>> 
>> When someone wants to test that, go for it and include it in your custom 
>> build with congrego ;)
>> 
>> 
>> 2012/9/23 Craig 
>>> I think American English is pretty standard in computing, even 
>>> internationally. Not that it will be a serious impediment d either way.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2012 1:28 PM, "David Gomes"  wrote:
 First of all, English and Portuguese will be a problem. How can we 
 decide which "version" of English and Portuguese to include? Sure, 
 Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the world, but it's 
 not because of the roughly 10 million inhabitants of Portugal, it's 
 more due to the 200 million inhabitants of Brazil. So, we'd probably 
 include Brazillian Portuguese.
 
 But English would be harder. There are more Americans than British, 
 but a lot of people are anti-American English or so.
 
 The whole move of including 8 languages. I'm not sure, I'd like to 
 know how much space that is.
 
 David "Munchor" Gomes
 
 On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eduard Gotwig 
  wrote:
> 
> 
> 2012/9/23 Eduard Gotwig 
>> Hey,
>> 
>> I think about if we can add the 8 most popular languagee packs for 
>> GNOME to the ISO image? There is still space left.
>> 
>> These 8 languages should be the ones, that are available on our new 
>> website:
>> 
>> EnglishFrançaisDeutschItalianoEspañolPortuguêsPolskiNederlands
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We cant include all, becouse they take too much space I guess.
> 
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Pantheon Terminal clickable protocols

[Voldyman]

Protocols
  rtsp:// & magnet:// 

On Sep 23, 2012, at 4:05 PM, David Gomes  wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> 
> https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-apps/pantheon-terminal/new-protocols
> 
> If you have some free time, please check that branch and add some new 
> protocols (or tell us about other ones with a reply to this email):
> 
>   this.clickable("""(http?|ftp?|https?|ftps?|irc?|sftp?|mailto?)://\S+""");
> 
> The other day we discussed this on IRC and shnatsel and voldyman told me 
> about lots of protocols. The channel wasn't being logged at the time and I 
> forgot some of the protocols they suggested.
> 
> Thank you,
> David "Munchor" Gomes
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Pantheon Terminal clickable protocols

[Pim Vullers]

On 09/24/2012 12:38 PM, Christian Dywan wrote:
> On 24.09.2012 11:56, David Gomes wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, I'll fix it when I get home, but I wish I didn't have to
>> type all those +ssh for bzr, git, hg, svn...
>>
> 
> What will happen when you open bzr+ssh? Does it show in a different
> color to convey that browsers won't work?
> 
> What about other valid schemes that don't happen to be in this
> improvised set? I would want to be able to open whatever
> AppInfo.get_default_for_uri_scheme recognizes and my browser can open.
> If magnet: is available I see no reason to "block" it.

Sure the best way would be to generate this list somehow, if this can be
done using AppInfo.get_default_for_uri_scheme that would be really nice.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Pantheon Terminal clickable protocols

[Christian Dywan]

On 24.09.2012 11:56, David Gomes wrote:
>
> Thank you, I'll fix it when I get home, but I wish I didn't have to
> type all those +ssh for bzr, git, hg, svn...
>

What will happen when you open bzr+ssh? Does it show in a different
color to convey that browsers won't work?

What about other valid schemes that don't happen to be in this
improvised set? I would want to be able to open whatever
AppInfo.get_default_for_uri_scheme recognizes and my browser can open.
If magnet: is available I see no reason to "block" it.

ciao,
Christian



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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Pantheon Terminal clickable protocols

[Pim Vullers]

Based on the example you gave, basically to illustrate the idea:

this.clickable("""(https?|ftps?|((bzr|git|svn|hg)(+ssh)?)))://\S+""")

i.e. group the protocols that can have a +ssh suffix, and then add the
suffix as an option for this group, do make sure you've got all the
brackets correct. (Given that | is the 'or' operator here you might not
need to escape the +, but as mentioned before, just check the
documentation for this.)

On 09/24/2012 11:56 AM, David Gomes wrote:
> Thank you, I'll fix it when I get home, but I wish I didn't have to type
> all those +ssh for bzr, git, hg, svn...
> 
> On Sep 24, 2012 10:47 AM, "Pim Vullers"  > wrote:
> 
> Normally a + in regexp means 'or', so you need to escape it. I you
> should use guess \+, so git\+ssh. But you should check the escape
> character in the regexp/function documentation.
> 
> On 09/24/2012 11:44 AM, David Gomes wrote:
> > Indeed, I fixed the ? on the branch, but the + sure looks weird.
> Any ideas?
> >
> > David "Munchor" Gomes
> >
> > On Sep 24, 2012 10:04 AM, "Pim Vullers"  
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > The question mark can be used to include both http and https
> by just
> > writing https? (which makes the s optional). I agree that
> Sergey's list
> > (in combination with the one already listed, and I guess the +
> needs
> > some escape in the regexp) should suffice. You definitely do
> not want to
> > use * since that would allow invalid schemes to become
> clickable which
> > does not help anybody.
> >
> > On 09/24/2012 10:46 AM, David Gomes wrote:
> > > Thank you Shnatsel. What do you guys think of Mefrio's
> option? If
> > I had
> > > "*" for all protocols then "omgwtf://" would be a protocol
> and that's
> > > not right, is it?
> > >
> > > Regarding the RegEx syntax, I'll take another look at it
> because you
> > > seem to be right.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
> > > mailto:ser...@elementaryos.org>
> >
> >     > wrote:
> > >
> > > 2012/9/23 David Gomes  
> > >
> > >     > >
> > > Hey everyone,
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-apps/pantheon-terminal/new-protocols
> > >
> > > If you have some free time, please check that branch
> and add
> > > some new protocols (or tell us about other ones with a
> > reply to
> > > this email):
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> this.clickable("""(http?|ftp?|https?|ftps?|irc?|sftp?|mailto?)://\S+""");
> > >
> > > The other day we discussed this on IRC and shnatsel and
> > voldyman
> > > told me about lots of protocols. The channel wasn't
> being
> > logged
> > > at the time and I forgot some of the protocols they
> suggested.
> > >
> > >
> > > The following URI schemes are relevant in a terminal:
> > >
> > > ldap, ldaps, nfs, smb, rsync, ssh, rlogin, telnet, git,
> git+ssh,
> > > bzr, bzr+ssh, svn, svn+ssh
> > >
> > > Depending on the regexp syntax (and you seem to have a
> really
> > weird
> > > one here, with "?" after every URI option - that typically
> > makes the
> > > last character optional) and implementation details, you
> also
> > might
> > > want to add matching a delimiter before the URI scheme,
> so that
> > > "omgwtfhttp://"; won't be treated as a URl.
> > >
> > > --
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> > > OS architect @ elementary
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Pantheon Terminal clickable protocols

[David Gomes]

Thank you, I'll fix it when I get home, but I wish I didn't have to type
all those +ssh for bzr, git, hg, svn...
On Sep 24, 2012 10:47 AM, "Pim Vullers"  wrote:

> Normally a + in regexp means 'or', so you need to escape it. I you
> should use guess \+, so git\+ssh. But you should check the escape
> character in the regexp/function documentation.
>
> On 09/24/2012 11:44 AM, David Gomes wrote:
> > Indeed, I fixed the ? on the branch, but the + sure looks weird. Any
> ideas?
> >
> > David "Munchor" Gomes
> >
> > On Sep 24, 2012 10:04 AM, "Pim Vullers"  > > wrote:
> >
> > The question mark can be used to include both http and https by just
> > writing https? (which makes the s optional). I agree that Sergey's
> list
> > (in combination with the one already listed, and I guess the + needs
> > some escape in the regexp) should suffice. You definitely do not
> want to
> > use * since that would allow invalid schemes to become clickable
> which
> > does not help anybody.
> >
> > On 09/24/2012 10:46 AM, David Gomes wrote:
> > > Thank you Shnatsel. What do you guys think of Mefrio's option? If
> > I had
> > > "*" for all protocols then "omgwtf://" would be a protocol and
> that's
> > > not right, is it?
> > >
> > > Regarding the RegEx syntax, I'll take another look at it because
> you
> > > seem to be right.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
> > > mailto:ser...@elementaryos.org>
> > >>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 2012/9/23 David Gomes  > 
> > >  >>>
> > >
> > > Hey everyone,
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-apps/pantheon-terminal/new-protocols
> > >
> > > If you have some free time, please check that branch and
> add
> > > some new protocols (or tell us about other ones with a
> > reply to
> > > this email):
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> this.clickable("""(http?|ftp?|https?|ftps?|irc?|sftp?|mailto?)://\S+""");
> > >
> > > The other day we discussed this on IRC and shnatsel and
> > voldyman
> > > told me about lots of protocols. The channel wasn't being
> > logged
> > > at the time and I forgot some of the protocols they
> suggested.
> > >
> > >
> > > The following URI schemes are relevant in a terminal:
> > >
> > > ldap, ldaps, nfs, smb, rsync, ssh, rlogin, telnet, git,
> git+ssh,
> > > bzr, bzr+ssh, svn, svn+ssh
> > >
> > > Depending on the regexp syntax (and you seem to have a really
> > weird
> > > one here, with "?" after every URI option - that typically
> > makes the
> > > last character optional) and implementation details, you also
> > might
> > > want to add matching a delimiter before the URI scheme, so that
> > > "omgwtfhttp://"; won't be treated as a URl.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
> > > OS architect @ elementary
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Pantheon Terminal clickable protocols

[Pim Vullers]

Normally a + in regexp means 'or', so you need to escape it. I you
should use guess \+, so git\+ssh. But you should check the escape
character in the regexp/function documentation.

On 09/24/2012 11:44 AM, David Gomes wrote:
> Indeed, I fixed the ? on the branch, but the + sure looks weird. Any ideas?
> 
> David "Munchor" Gomes
> 
> On Sep 24, 2012 10:04 AM, "Pim Vullers"  > wrote:
> 
> The question mark can be used to include both http and https by just
> writing https? (which makes the s optional). I agree that Sergey's list
> (in combination with the one already listed, and I guess the + needs
> some escape in the regexp) should suffice. You definitely do not want to
> use * since that would allow invalid schemes to become clickable which
> does not help anybody.
> 
> On 09/24/2012 10:46 AM, David Gomes wrote:
> > Thank you Shnatsel. What do you guys think of Mefrio's option? If
> I had
> > "*" for all protocols then "omgwtf://" would be a protocol and that's
> > not right, is it?
> >
> > Regarding the RegEx syntax, I'll take another look at it because you
> > seem to be right.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
> > mailto:ser...@elementaryos.org>
> >>
> wrote:
> >
> > 2012/9/23 David Gomes  
> > >>
> >
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> >
> 
> https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-apps/pantheon-terminal/new-protocols
> >
> > If you have some free time, please check that branch and add
> > some new protocols (or tell us about other ones with a
> reply to
> > this email):
> >
> >
> >
> this.clickable("""(http?|ftp?|https?|ftps?|irc?|sftp?|mailto?)://\S+""");
> >
> > The other day we discussed this on IRC and shnatsel and
> voldyman
> > told me about lots of protocols. The channel wasn't being
> logged
> > at the time and I forgot some of the protocols they suggested.
> >
> >
> > The following URI schemes are relevant in a terminal:
> >
> > ldap, ldaps, nfs, smb, rsync, ssh, rlogin, telnet, git, git+ssh,
> > bzr, bzr+ssh, svn, svn+ssh
> >
> > Depending on the regexp syntax (and you seem to have a really
> weird
> > one here, with "?" after every URI option - that typically
> makes the
> > last character optional) and implementation details, you also
> might
> > want to add matching a delimiter before the URI scheme, so that
> > "omgwtfhttp://"; won't be treated as a URl.
> >
> > --
> > Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
> > OS architect @ elementary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Pantheon Terminal clickable protocols

[David Gomes]

Indeed, I fixed the ? on the branch, but the + sure looks weird. Any ideas?

David "Munchor" Gomes
On Sep 24, 2012 10:04 AM, "Pim Vullers"  wrote:

> The question mark can be used to include both http and https by just
> writing https? (which makes the s optional). I agree that Sergey's list
> (in combination with the one already listed, and I guess the + needs
> some escape in the regexp) should suffice. You definitely do not want to
> use * since that would allow invalid schemes to become clickable which
> does not help anybody.
>
> On 09/24/2012 10:46 AM, David Gomes wrote:
> > Thank you Shnatsel. What do you guys think of Mefrio's option? If I had
> > "*" for all protocols then "omgwtf://" would be a protocol and that's
> > not right, is it?
> >
> > Regarding the RegEx syntax, I'll take another look at it because you
> > seem to be right.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
> > mailto:ser...@elementaryos.org>> wrote:
> >
> > 2012/9/23 David Gomes  > >
> >
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> >
> https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-apps/pantheon-terminal/new-protocols
> >
> > If you have some free time, please check that branch and add
> > some new protocols (or tell us about other ones with a reply to
> > this email):
> >
> >
> >
> this.clickable("""(http?|ftp?|https?|ftps?|irc?|sftp?|mailto?)://\S+""");
> >
> > The other day we discussed this on IRC and shnatsel and voldyman
> > told me about lots of protocols. The channel wasn't being logged
> > at the time and I forgot some of the protocols they suggested.
> >
> >
> > The following URI schemes are relevant in a terminal:
> >
> > ldap, ldaps, nfs, smb, rsync, ssh, rlogin, telnet, git, git+ssh,
> > bzr, bzr+ssh, svn, svn+ssh
> >
> > Depending on the regexp syntax (and you seem to have a really weird
> > one here, with "?" after every URI option - that typically makes the
> > last character optional) and implementation details, you also might
> > want to add matching a delimiter before the URI scheme, so that
> > "omgwtfhttp://"; won't be treated as a URl.
> >
> > --
> > Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
> > OS architect @ elementary
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Pantheon Terminal clickable protocols

[Pim Vullers]

The question mark can be used to include both http and https by just
writing https? (which makes the s optional). I agree that Sergey's list
(in combination with the one already listed, and I guess the + needs
some escape in the regexp) should suffice. You definitely do not want to
use * since that would allow invalid schemes to become clickable which
does not help anybody.

On 09/24/2012 10:46 AM, David Gomes wrote:
> Thank you Shnatsel. What do you guys think of Mefrio's option? If I had
> "*" for all protocols then "omgwtf://" would be a protocol and that's
> not right, is it?
> 
> Regarding the RegEx syntax, I'll take another look at it because you
> seem to be right.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
> mailto:ser...@elementaryos.org>> wrote:
> 
> 2012/9/23 David Gomes  >
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> 
> https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-apps/pantheon-terminal/new-protocols
> 
> If you have some free time, please check that branch and add
> some new protocols (or tell us about other ones with a reply to
> this email):
> 
>  
> 
> this.clickable("""(http?|ftp?|https?|ftps?|irc?|sftp?|mailto?)://\S+""");
> 
> The other day we discussed this on IRC and shnatsel and voldyman
> told me about lots of protocols. The channel wasn't being logged
> at the time and I forgot some of the protocols they suggested.
> 
> 
> The following URI schemes are relevant in a terminal:
> 
> ldap, ldaps, nfs, smb, rsync, ssh, rlogin, telnet, git, git+ssh,
> bzr, bzr+ssh, svn, svn+ssh
> 
> Depending on the regexp syntax (and you seem to have a really weird
> one here, with "?" after every URI option - that typically makes the
> last character optional) and implementation details, you also might
> want to add matching a delimiter before the URI scheme, so that
> "omgwtfhttp://"; won't be treated as a URl.
> 
> -- 
> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
> OS architect @ elementary
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Pantheon Terminal clickable protocols

[David Gomes]

Thank you Shnatsel. What do you guys think of Mefrio's option? If I had "*"
for all protocols then "omgwtf://" would be a protocol and that's not
right, is it?

Regarding the RegEx syntax, I'll take another look at it because you seem
to be right.

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff <
ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote:

> 2012/9/23 David Gomes 
>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>>
>> https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-apps/pantheon-terminal/new-protocols
>>
>> If you have some free time, please check that branch and add some new
>> protocols (or tell us about other ones with a reply to this email):
>>
>>
>> this.clickable("""(http?|ftp?|https?|ftps?|irc?|sftp?|mailto?)://\S+""");
>>
>> The other day we discussed this on IRC and shnatsel and voldyman told me
>> about lots of protocols. The channel wasn't being logged at the time and I
>> forgot some of the protocols they suggested.
>>
>
> The following URI schemes are relevant in a terminal:
>
> ldap, ldaps, nfs, smb, rsync, ssh, rlogin, telnet, git, git+ssh, bzr,
> bzr+ssh, svn, svn+ssh
>
> Depending on the regexp syntax (and you seem to have a really weird one
> here, with "?" after every URI option - that typically makes the last
> character optional) and implementation details, you also might want to add
> matching a delimiter before the URI scheme, so that "omgwtfhttp://"; won't
> be treated as a URl.
>
> --
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> OS architect @ elementary
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Keyboard indicator launches gnome-control-center > Beta1 stopper(?)

[David Gomes]

If it's Confirmed then it might just be a luna-beta1 bug.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Eduard Gotwig wrote:

> Hey, like the Bluetooth indicator bug, this should be a beta stopper as
> well:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1055334
>
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[Elementary-dev-community] Keyboard indicator launches gnome-control-center > Beta1 stopper(?)

[Eduard Gotwig]

Hey, like the Bluetooth indicator bug, this should be a beta stopper as
well:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1055334
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