Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Facebook Fogger app out of the box

2012-10-08 Thread Daniel Foré 
Hey There,

Sorry about the super rude response!

Unfortunately it doesn't line up with our plans to include a Facebook app by 
default and we are indeed past our feature freeze for including this extra 
functionality.

But I think most of us probably use a range of online services from Google to 
Facebook or Twitter. So I believe in the future we will be doing some work on 
integrating web services a little better.

Hope that answers your question.

Best Regards,
Daniel Foré

El oct 8, 2012, a las 12:24 p.m., Nishant Agrwal  
escribió:

> What do you guys think of providing a Fogger app for Facebook out of the box 
> in Luna? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, refer to this 
> article:
> 
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/fogger-can-turn-facebook-into-an-integrated-desktop-app-on-ubuntu
> 
> I've used it, and it works rather well, actually. The killer feature for me 
> would be the desktop notifications and the badges (which work fine with 
> Plank). But that's not the reason I'm suggesting this.
> 
> IMHO including Facebook as a first-class app (in that Plank and Slingshot 
> handle it as one) would be a very good idea because let's face it, regardless 
> of your personal opinion about Facebook, the target audience of elementary 
> will use Facebook, and it will be pretty important to the user. When booting 
> Luna for the first time, seeing the Facebook logo on the dock will give the 
> user a feeling of familiarity and an impression of immediate usefulness. The 
> main point here is that we should use the recognizable logo to our advantage 
> to make the user feel that this platform will suit their needs.
> 
> And of course a handy one-click access to Facebook with desktop notifications 
> is good in it's own right :) 
> 
> Thoughts?
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Facebook Fogger app out of the box

2012-10-08 Thread Cassidy James 
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On Oct 8, 2012 2:47 PM, "Sam Tate"  wrote:

> Dude no need to be a dick about it. It's a valid question! I don't think
> it could be included since it isn't native software and doesn't follow the
> HIG. Looks like a cool app though :)
>
> Regards,
> Sam Tate
> On 8 Oct 2012 20:42, "Eduard Gotwig"  wrote:
>
>> > Cool suggestion, so we can all see what our friends are doing all their
>> fucking time :-)
>> For this topic, we don't really care about free software, you know if
>> people use it, we should include it.
>> Hm.. and I heard from some twittering friends that apple has this, as
>> well in their software... ouch..., but well, we had the idea of this
>> feature before it, right? ;)
>>
>> Hm, too bad our feature freeze is already here...
>>
>> Maybe we should backport these 13 ubuntu 12.10 packages also back to
>> 12.04 :-) , so we can get an even better integration with our friends at
>> twitter and g+?
>>
>>
>> People make the world funny, so lets get more "facebook fun®" into our
>> little OS ;)
>> 
>>
>> *What about... No?*
>> *excuse me. I am a bastard :-)*
>>
>> 2012/10/8 Nishant Agrwal 
>>
>>> What do you guys think of providing a Fogger app for Facebook out of the
>>> box in Luna? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, refer to this
>>> article:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/fogger-can-turn-facebook-into-an-integrated-desktop-app-on-ubuntu
>>>
>>> I've used it, and it works rather well, actually. The killer feature for
>>> me would be the desktop notifications and the badges (which work fine with
>>> Plank). But that's not the reason I'm suggesting this.
>>>
>>> IMHO including Facebook as a first-class app (in that Plank and
>>> Slingshot handle it as one) would be a very good idea because let's face
>>> it, regardless of your personal opinion about Facebook, the target audience
>>> of elementary will use Facebook, and it will be pretty important to the
>>> user. When booting Luna for the first time, seeing the Facebook logo on the
>>> dock will give the user a feeling of familiarity and an impression of
>>> immediate usefulness. The main point here is that we should use the
>>> recognizable logo to our advantage to make the user feel that this platform
>>> will suit their needs.
>>>
>>> And of course a handy one-click access to Facebook with desktop
>>> notifications is good in it's own right :)
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
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>>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Facebook Fogger app out of the box

2012-10-08 Thread Sam Tate 
Dude no need to be a dick about it. It's a valid question! I don't think it
could be included since it isn't native software and doesn't follow the
HIG. Looks like a cool app though :)

Regards,
Sam Tate
On 8 Oct 2012 20:42, "Eduard Gotwig"  wrote:

>  Cool suggestion, so we can all see what our friends are doing all their
> fucking time :-)
> For this topic, we don't really care about free software, you know if
> people use it, we should include it.
> Hm.. and I heard from some twittering friends that apple has this, as well
> in their software... ouch..., but well, we had the idea of this feature
> before it, right? ;)
>
> Hm, too bad our feature freeze is already here...
>
> Maybe we should backport these 13 ubuntu 12.10 packages also back to 12.04
> :-) , so we can get an even better integration with our friends at twitter
> and g+?
>
>
> People make the world funny, so lets get more "facebook fun®" into our
> little OS ;)
> 
>
> *What about... No?*
> *excuse me. I am a bastard :-)*
>
> 2012/10/8 Nishant Agrwal 
>
>> What do you guys think of providing a Fogger app for Facebook out of the
>> box in Luna? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, refer to this
>> article:
>>
>>
>> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/fogger-can-turn-facebook-into-an-integrated-desktop-app-on-ubuntu
>>
>> I've used it, and it works rather well, actually. The killer feature for
>> me would be the desktop notifications and the badges (which work fine with
>> Plank). But that's not the reason I'm suggesting this.
>>
>> IMHO including Facebook as a first-class app (in that Plank and Slingshot
>> handle it as one) would be a very good idea because let's face it,
>> regardless of your personal opinion about Facebook, the target audience of
>> elementary will use Facebook, and it will be pretty important to the user.
>> When booting Luna for the first time, seeing the Facebook logo on the dock
>> will give the user a feeling of familiarity and an impression of immediate
>> usefulness. The main point here is that we should use the recognizable logo
>> to our advantage to make the user feel that this platform will suit their
>> needs.
>>
>> And of course a handy one-click access to Facebook with desktop
>> notifications is good in it's own right :)
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
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>>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Facebook Fogger app out of the box

2012-10-08 Thread Fabian Thoma 
Hey,

so there are a few things that speak against doing such a thing:

A Fogger App is no native App, but just a website, that makes it non
native, not following the system theming and every design tweaks(like in
that post) are destined to fail at some point.

Also some people(including me) might not like the fact that Facebook is
installed and might get paranoid and rage about it.

If elementary would ever do such a thing as including a social network app
it would be native, fast and following out HIG.

And finally Luna is in feature freeze since ages ago, so nothing,
especially something that goes against our guidelines, should go into Luna
anymore.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Nishant Agrwal  wrote:

> What do you guys think of providing a Fogger app for Facebook out of the
> box in Luna? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, refer to this
> article:
>
>
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/fogger-can-turn-facebook-into-an-integrated-desktop-app-on-ubuntu
>
> I've used it, and it works rather well, actually. The killer feature for
> me would be the desktop notifications and the badges (which work fine with
> Plank). But that's not the reason I'm suggesting this.
>
> IMHO including Facebook as a first-class app (in that Plank and Slingshot
> handle it as one) would be a very good idea because let's face it,
> regardless of your personal opinion about Facebook, the target audience of
> elementary will use Facebook, and it will be pretty important to the user.
> When booting Luna for the first time, seeing the Facebook logo on the dock
> will give the user a feeling of familiarity and an impression of immediate
> usefulness. The main point here is that we should use the recognizable logo
> to our advantage to make the user feel that this platform will suit their
> needs.
>
> And of course a handy one-click access to Facebook with desktop
> notifications is good in it's own right :)
>
> Thoughts?
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Facebook Fogger app out of the box

2012-10-08 Thread Eduard Gotwig 


*What about... No?*
*excuse me. I am a bastard :-)*

2012/10/8 Nishant Agrwal 

> What do you guys think of providing a Fogger app for Facebook out of the
> box in Luna? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, refer to this
> article:
>
>
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/fogger-can-turn-facebook-into-an-integrated-desktop-app-on-ubuntu
>
> I've used it, and it works rather well, actually. The killer feature for
> me would be the desktop notifications and the badges (which work fine with
> Plank). But that's not the reason I'm suggesting this.
>
> IMHO including Facebook as a first-class app (in that Plank and Slingshot
> handle it as one) would be a very good idea because let's face it,
> regardless of your personal opinion about Facebook, the target audience of
> elementary will use Facebook, and it will be pretty important to the user.
> When booting Luna for the first time, seeing the Facebook logo on the dock
> will give the user a feeling of familiarity and an impression of immediate
> usefulness. The main point here is that we should use the recognizable logo
> to our advantage to make the user feel that this platform will suit their
> needs.
>
> And of course a handy one-click access to Facebook with desktop
> notifications is good in it's own right :)
>
> Thoughts?
>
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[Elementary-dev-community] Facebook Fogger app out of the box

2012-10-08 Thread Nishant Agrwal 
What do you guys think of providing a Fogger app for Facebook out of the box in 
Luna? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, refer to this article:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/fogger-can-turn-facebook-into-an-integrated-desktop-app-on-ubuntu

I've used it, and it works rather well, actually. The killer feature for me 
would be the desktop notifications and the badges (which work fine with Plank). 
But that's not the reason I'm suggesting this.

IMHO including Facebook as a first-class app (in that Plank and Slingshot 
handle it as one) would be a very good idea because let's face it, regardless 
of your personal opinion about Facebook, the target audience of elementary will 
use Facebook, and it will be pretty important to the user. When booting Luna 
for the first time, seeing the Facebook logo on the dock will give the user a 
feeling of familiarity and an impression of immediate usefulness. The main 
point here is that we should use the recognizable logo to our advantage to make 
the user feel that this platform will suit their needs.

And of course a handy one-click access to Facebook with desktop notifications 
is good in it's own right :) 

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