[Elementary-dev-community] Questions about the use of the bluetooth indicator

[Robert Ancell]

Hi,

Am I right in that Elementary uses the same Bluetooth indicator as
Ubuntu via wingpanel?

For Ubuntu 13.04 I'm working on a new indicator-bluetooth [1] native
indicator to replace the GNOME2 panel applet that is currently used.

The new indicator will be much the same
(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth) and will probably run
gnome-bluetooth applications for accessing bluetooth devices and
gnome-control-center for configuration. If Elementary are using this
indicator it would be good for it to load switchboard when running in
an elementary session. Are there any other requirements I should know
of?

I will also be looking at a native keyboard indicator that will
probably have some similar requirements (haven't investigated it yet).

--Robert

lp:~robert-ancell/+junk/indicator-bluetooth

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Questions about the use of the bluetooth indicator

[Cody Garver]

Yes, we are using the same indicator as Ubuntu. We are currently attempting
to patch 
outthe
"Bluetooth Settings..." link because it opens Gnome Control Center,
which we are dropping.

I don't think we have yet settled on the method for launching a Switchboard
plug externally (I think GnomeCC uses $ gnome-control-center bluetooth or
some such way).

Replacing bluetooth and keyboard indicator is good news to everyone.

The only "requirement" we could hope for from you is that your indicators
are written in vala. Your previous launchpad link does not exist.

I think who you really want to hear from are the design team. Hopefully a
member will reply to this email soon with some feedback.

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Robert Ancell wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am I right in that Elementary uses the same Bluetooth indicator as
> Ubuntu via wingpanel?
>
> For Ubuntu 13.04 I'm working on a new indicator-bluetooth [1] native
> indicator to replace the GNOME2 panel applet that is currently used.
>
> The new indicator will be much the same
> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth) and will probably run
> gnome-bluetooth applications for accessing bluetooth devices and
> gnome-control-center for configuration. If Elementary are using this
> indicator it would be good for it to load switchboard when running in
> an elementary session. Are there any other requirements I should know
> of?
>
> I will also be looking at a native keyboard indicator that will
> probably have some similar requirements (haven't investigated it yet).
>
> --Robert
>
> lp:~robert-ancell/+junk/indicator-bluetooth
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Questions about the use of the bluetooth indicator

[Cody Garver]

Ah, here it is.
https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/+junk/bluetooth-indicator Thanks
David Gomes for finding that.

It would also be great if you used
cmake
.

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:43 AM, Cody Garver  wrote:

> Yes, we are using the same indicator as Ubuntu. We are currently
> attempting to patch 
> outthe
>  "Bluetooth Settings..." link because it opens Gnome Control Center,
> which we are dropping.
>
> I don't think we have yet settled on the method for launching a
> Switchboard plug externally (I think GnomeCC uses $ gnome-control-center
> bluetooth or some such way).
>
> Replacing bluetooth and keyboard indicator is good news to everyone.
>
> The only "requirement" we could hope for from you is that your indicators
> are written in vala. Your previous launchpad link does not exist.
>
> I think who you really want to hear from are the design team. Hopefully a
> member will reply to this email soon with some feedback.
>
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Robert Ancell wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am I right in that Elementary uses the same Bluetooth indicator as
>> Ubuntu via wingpanel?
>>
>> For Ubuntu 13.04 I'm working on a new indicator-bluetooth [1] native
>> indicator to replace the GNOME2 panel applet that is currently used.
>>
>> The new indicator will be much the same
>> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth) and will probably run
>> gnome-bluetooth applications for accessing bluetooth devices and
>> gnome-control-center for configuration. If Elementary are using this
>> indicator it would be good for it to load switchboard when running in
>> an elementary session. Are there any other requirements I should know
>> of?
>>
>> I will also be looking at a native keyboard indicator that will
>> probably have some similar requirements (haven't investigated it yet).
>>
>> --Robert
>>
>> lp:~robert-ancell/+junk/indicator-bluetooth
>>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Questions about the use of the bluetooth indicator

[Robert Ancell]

Oh, not sure if I was clear - the new indicator is part of the
existing Unity indicator set so is being designed by the Ubuntu design
team. I just want to make sure it works well in both desktops. It is
in Vala but uses autotools.

--Robert

On 14 October 2012 20:43, Cody Garver  wrote:
> Yes, we are using the same indicator as Ubuntu. We are currently attempting
> to patch out the "Bluetooth Settings..." link because it opens Gnome Control
> Center, which we are dropping.
>
> I don't think we have yet settled on the method for launching a Switchboard
> plug externally (I think GnomeCC uses $ gnome-control-center bluetooth or
> some such way).
>
> Replacing bluetooth and keyboard indicator is good news to everyone.
>
> The only "requirement" we could hope for from you is that your indicators
> are written in vala. Your previous launchpad link does not exist.
>
> I think who you really want to hear from are the design team. Hopefully a
> member will reply to this email soon with some feedback.
>
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Robert Ancell 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am I right in that Elementary uses the same Bluetooth indicator as
>> Ubuntu via wingpanel?
>>
>> For Ubuntu 13.04 I'm working on a new indicator-bluetooth [1] native
>> indicator to replace the GNOME2 panel applet that is currently used.
>>
>> The new indicator will be much the same
>> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth) and will probably run
>> gnome-bluetooth applications for accessing bluetooth devices and
>> gnome-control-center for configuration. If Elementary are using this
>> indicator it would be good for it to load switchboard when running in
>> an elementary session. Are there any other requirements I should know
>> of?
>>
>> I will also be looking at a native keyboard indicator that will
>> probably have some similar requirements (haven't investigated it yet).
>>
>> --Robert
>>
>> lp:~robert-ancell/+junk/indicator-bluetooth
>>
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>
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Questions about the use of the bluetooth indicator

[Cody Garver]

Here's the relevant
documentationand
commitabout
launching a plug externally. And here's the
bug  where we debated
it a while if you're interested.

I kindly implore/suggest you to stay far far away from autotools.

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Robert Ancell wrote:

> Oh, not sure if I was clear - the new indicator is part of the
> existing Unity indicator set so is being designed by the Ubuntu design
> team. I just want to make sure it works well in both desktops. It is
> in Vala but uses autotools.
>
> --Robert
>
> On 14 October 2012 20:43, Cody Garver  wrote:
> > Yes, we are using the same indicator as Ubuntu. We are currently
> attempting
> > to patch out the "Bluetooth Settings..." link because it opens Gnome
> Control
> > Center, which we are dropping.
> >
> > I don't think we have yet settled on the method for launching a
> Switchboard
> > plug externally (I think GnomeCC uses $ gnome-control-center bluetooth or
> > some such way).
> >
> > Replacing bluetooth and keyboard indicator is good news to everyone.
> >
> > The only "requirement" we could hope for from you is that your indicators
> > are written in vala. Your previous launchpad link does not exist.
> >
> > I think who you really want to hear from are the design team. Hopefully a
> > member will reply to this email soon with some feedback.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Robert Ancell 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Am I right in that Elementary uses the same Bluetooth indicator as
> >> Ubuntu via wingpanel?
> >>
> >> For Ubuntu 13.04 I'm working on a new indicator-bluetooth [1] native
> >> indicator to replace the GNOME2 panel applet that is currently used.
> >>
> >> The new indicator will be much the same
> >> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth) and will probably run
> >> gnome-bluetooth applications for accessing bluetooth devices and
> >> gnome-control-center for configuration. If Elementary are using this
> >> indicator it would be good for it to load switchboard when running in
> >> an elementary session. Are there any other requirements I should know
> >> of?
> >>
> >> I will also be looking at a native keyboard indicator that will
> >> probably have some similar requirements (haven't investigated it yet).
> >>
> >> --Robert
> >>
> >> lp:~robert-ancell/+junk/indicator-bluetooth
> >>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Questions about the use of the bluetooth indicator

[Robert Ancell]

On 14 October 2012 22:12, Eduard Gotwig  wrote:
> +Robert Ancell: I think it would be great, if indicators would be
> intelligent enough, to just don't show the entry to the gnome control
> center, if its not properly installed. Just saying...

The gnome-bluetooth one does that actually, but it does it by checking
if 'gnome-control-center' is in the path. I'll at least match that
behaviour but it would probably be better if it detected what type of
session it is running inside (i.e. got the XDG session name) and did
the behaviour based on that. Otherwise installing gnome-control-center
in elementary would (incorrectly) adjust the behaviour of the
indicator.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Questions about the use of the bluetooth indicator

[Robert Ancell]

I don't think there's a (easy) reliable method of detecting what
session you are inside. But it's worth seeing if it can be done.

On 14 October 2012 22:24, Eduard Gotwig  wrote:
> Ok, so why don't the others use this concept? Becouse we've our life on
> GNOME? :D
>
>
> 2012/10/14 Robert Ancell 
>>
>> On 14 October 2012 22:12, Eduard Gotwig  wrote:
>> > +Robert Ancell: I think it would be great, if indicators would be
>> > intelligent enough, to just don't show the entry to the gnome control
>> > center, if its not properly installed. Just saying...
>>
>> The gnome-bluetooth one does that actually, but it does it by checking
>> if 'gnome-control-center' is in the path. I'll at least match that
>> behaviour but it would probably be better if it detected what type of
>> session it is running inside (i.e. got the XDG session name) and did
>> the behaviour based on that. Otherwise installing gnome-control-center
>> in elementary would (incorrectly) adjust the behaviour of the
>> indicator.
>
>

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[Elementary-dev-community] UI change for workspace expose

[Tahseen Jamal]

Dear All,

When I do workspace expose, the active desktop merely slides up. Can't 
we do a more of active desktop zoom out along with Apps





Check this link

https://www.dropbox.com/s/58g2vt6e94uh2eg/workspace%20expose.png


No offence intended. Even Gnome 3 does similarly. So am not asking to 
copy Apple


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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] UI change for workspace expose

[Daniel Foré]

Hey Tahseen,

We're definitely planning to continue our design work on Gala for the Luna +1 
cycle and dig deeper into workspace management.

But as of right now, we're past our feature freeze. So what is present in Luna 
unstable currently is largely what you're going to see in final as far as 
features and UI goes. 

Best Regards,
Daniel Foré

El oct 14, 2012, a las 6:21 a.m., Tahseen Jamal  
escribió:

> 
> Dear All,
> 
> When I do workspace expose, the active desktop merely slides up. Can't we do 
> a more of active desktop zoom out along with Apps
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Check this link
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/58g2vt6e94uh2eg/workspace%20expose.png
> 
> 
> No offence intended. Even Gnome 3 does similarly. So am not asking to copy 
> Apple
> 
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Questions about the use of the bluetooth indicator

[Daniel Fore]

Looks like we have MPT and Robert Ancell on this one. That makes me feel good 
haha.

No Bake Robert? ;p

If we had a reliable way to detect the session that would be pretty cool. For 
now, none of our indicators link to Switchboard though, so I don't think it'd 
be too terrible to just not show a link if GCC isn't around until we figure out 
how we can do this.

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:31 AM, Robert Ancell  wrote:
I don't think there's a (easy) reliable method of detecting what 
session you are inside. But it's worth seeing if it can be done. 

On 14 October 2012 22:24, Eduard Gotwig wrote: 
> Ok, so why don't the others use this concept? Becouse we've our life on 
> GNOME? :D 
> 
> 
> 2012/10/14 Robert Ancell 
>> 
>> On 14 October 2012 22:12, Eduard Gotwig wrote: 
>> > +Robert Ancell: I think it would be great, if indicators would be 
>> > intelligent enough, to just don't show the entry to the gnome control 
>> > center, if its not properly installed. Just saying... 
>> 
>> The gnome-bluetooth one does that actually, but it does it by checking 
>> if 'gnome-control-center' is in the path. I'll at least match that 
>> behaviour but it would probably be better if it detected what type of 
>> session it is running inside (i.e. got the XDG session name) and did 
>> the behaviour based on that. Otherwise installing gnome-control-center 
>> in elementary would (incorrectly) adjust the behaviour of the 
>> indicator. 
> 
> 

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Questions about the use of the bluetooth indicator

[Robert Ancell]

On 15 October 2012 04:36, Daniel Fore  wrote:

> No Bake Robert? ;p

Not this time :)

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