Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Facebook Fogger app out of the box
Okay, I understand. Onward to Luna! :-) On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:19 AM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey There, Sorry about the super rude response! Unfortunately it doesn't line up with our plans to include a Facebook app by default and we are indeed past our feature freeze for including this extra functionality. But I think most of us probably use a range of online services from Google to Facebook or Twitter. So I believe in the future we will be doing some work on integrating web services a little better. Hope that answers your question. Best Regards, Daniel Foré El oct 8, 2012, a las 12:24 p.m., Nishant Agrwal nishantagrwal12...@gmail.com escribió: What do you guys think of providing a Fogger app for Facebook out of the box in Luna? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, refer to this article: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/fogger-can-turn-facebook-into-an-integrated-desktop-app-on-ubuntu I've used it, and it works rather well, actually. The killer feature for me would be the desktop notifications and the badges (which work fine with Plank). But that's not the reason I'm suggesting this. IMHO including Facebook as a first-class app (in that Plank and Slingshot handle it as one) would be a very good idea because let's face it, regardless of your personal opinion about Facebook, the target audience of elementary will use Facebook, and it will be pretty important to the user. When booting Luna for the first time, seeing the Facebook logo on the dock will give the user a feeling of familiarity and an impression of immediate usefulness. The main point here is that we should use the recognizable logo to our advantage to make the user feel that this platform will suit their needs. And of course a handy one-click access to Facebook with desktop notifications is good in it's own right :) Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Facebook Fogger app out of the box
sarcasm Cool suggestion, so we can all see what our friends are doing all their fucking time :-) For this topic, we don't really care about free software, you know if people use it, we should include it. Hm.. and I heard from some twittering friends that apple has this, as well in their software... ouch..., but well, we had the idea of this feature before it, right? ;) Hm, too bad our feature freeze is already here... Maybe we should backport these 13 ubuntu 12.10 packages also back to 12.04 :-) , so we can get an even better integration with our friends at twitter and g+? People make the world funny, so lets get more facebook fun® into our little OS ;) /sarcasm *What about... No?* *excuse me. I am a bastard :-)* 2012/10/8 Nishant Agrwal nishantagrwal12...@gmail.com What do you guys think of providing a Fogger app for Facebook out of the box in Luna? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, refer to this article: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/fogger-can-turn-facebook-into-an-integrated-desktop-app-on-ubuntu I've used it, and it works rather well, actually. The killer feature for me would be the desktop notifications and the badges (which work fine with Plank). But that's not the reason I'm suggesting this. IMHO including Facebook as a first-class app (in that Plank and Slingshot handle it as one) would be a very good idea because let's face it, regardless of your personal opinion about Facebook, the target audience of elementary will use Facebook, and it will be pretty important to the user. When booting Luna for the first time, seeing the Facebook logo on the dock will give the user a feeling of familiarity and an impression of immediate usefulness. The main point here is that we should use the recognizable logo to our advantage to make the user feel that this platform will suit their needs. And of course a handy one-click access to Facebook with desktop notifications is good in it's own right :) Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Facebook Fogger app out of the box
Hey, so there are a few things that speak against doing such a thing: A Fogger App is no native App, but just a website, that makes it non native, not following the system theming and every design tweaks(like in that post) are destined to fail at some point. Also some people(including me) might not like the fact that Facebook is installed and might get paranoid and rage about it. If elementary would ever do such a thing as including a social network app it would be native, fast and following out HIG. And finally Luna is in feature freeze since ages ago, so nothing, especially something that goes against our guidelines, should go into Luna anymore. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Nishant Agrwal nishantagrwal12...@gmail.com wrote: What do you guys think of providing a Fogger app for Facebook out of the box in Luna? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, refer to this article: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/fogger-can-turn-facebook-into-an-integrated-desktop-app-on-ubuntu I've used it, and it works rather well, actually. The killer feature for me would be the desktop notifications and the badges (which work fine with Plank). But that's not the reason I'm suggesting this. IMHO including Facebook as a first-class app (in that Plank and Slingshot handle it as one) would be a very good idea because let's face it, regardless of your personal opinion about Facebook, the target audience of elementary will use Facebook, and it will be pretty important to the user. When booting Luna for the first time, seeing the Facebook logo on the dock will give the user a feeling of familiarity and an impression of immediate usefulness. The main point here is that we should use the recognizable logo to our advantage to make the user feel that this platform will suit their needs. And of course a handy one-click access to Facebook with desktop notifications is good in it's own right :) Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- http://elementaryos.org/*Fabian Thoma* | *Council Member* elementary OS fab...@elementaryos.org / elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Facebook Fogger app out of the box
Dude no need to be a dick about it. It's a valid question! I don't think it could be included since it isn't native software and doesn't follow the HIG. Looks like a cool app though :) Regards, Sam Tate On 8 Oct 2012 20:42, Eduard Gotwig eduardgot...@gmail.com wrote: sarcasm Cool suggestion, so we can all see what our friends are doing all their fucking time :-) For this topic, we don't really care about free software, you know if people use it, we should include it. Hm.. and I heard from some twittering friends that apple has this, as well in their software... ouch..., but well, we had the idea of this feature before it, right? ;) Hm, too bad our feature freeze is already here... Maybe we should backport these 13 ubuntu 12.10 packages also back to 12.04 :-) , so we can get an even better integration with our friends at twitter and g+? People make the world funny, so lets get more facebook fun® into our little OS ;) /sarcasm *What about... No?* *excuse me. I am a bastard :-)* 2012/10/8 Nishant Agrwal nishantagrwal12...@gmail.com What do you guys think of providing a Fogger app for Facebook out of the box in Luna? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, refer to this article: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/fogger-can-turn-facebook-into-an-integrated-desktop-app-on-ubuntu I've used it, and it works rather well, actually. The killer feature for me would be the desktop notifications and the badges (which work fine with Plank). But that's not the reason I'm suggesting this. IMHO including Facebook as a first-class app (in that Plank and Slingshot handle it as one) would be a very good idea because let's face it, regardless of your personal opinion about Facebook, the target audience of elementary will use Facebook, and it will be pretty important to the user. When booting Luna for the first time, seeing the Facebook logo on the dock will give the user a feeling of familiarity and an impression of immediate usefulness. The main point here is that we should use the recognizable logo to our advantage to make the user feel that this platform will suit their needs. And of course a handy one-click access to Facebook with desktop notifications is good in it's own right :) Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Facebook Fogger app out of the box
/thread On Oct 8, 2012 2:47 PM, Sam Tate s...@mtate.me.uk wrote: Dude no need to be a dick about it. It's a valid question! I don't think it could be included since it isn't native software and doesn't follow the HIG. Looks like a cool app though :) Regards, Sam Tate On 8 Oct 2012 20:42, Eduard Gotwig eduardgot...@gmail.com wrote: sarcasm Cool suggestion, so we can all see what our friends are doing all their fucking time :-) For this topic, we don't really care about free software, you know if people use it, we should include it. Hm.. and I heard from some twittering friends that apple has this, as well in their software... ouch..., but well, we had the idea of this feature before it, right? ;) Hm, too bad our feature freeze is already here... Maybe we should backport these 13 ubuntu 12.10 packages also back to 12.04 :-) , so we can get an even better integration with our friends at twitter and g+? People make the world funny, so lets get more facebook fun® into our little OS ;) /sarcasm *What about... No?* *excuse me. I am a bastard :-)* 2012/10/8 Nishant Agrwal nishantagrwal12...@gmail.com What do you guys think of providing a Fogger app for Facebook out of the box in Luna? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, refer to this article: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/fogger-can-turn-facebook-into-an-integrated-desktop-app-on-ubuntu I've used it, and it works rather well, actually. The killer feature for me would be the desktop notifications and the badges (which work fine with Plank). But that's not the reason I'm suggesting this. IMHO including Facebook as a first-class app (in that Plank and Slingshot handle it as one) would be a very good idea because let's face it, regardless of your personal opinion about Facebook, the target audience of elementary will use Facebook, and it will be pretty important to the user. When booting Luna for the first time, seeing the Facebook logo on the dock will give the user a feeling of familiarity and an impression of immediate usefulness. The main point here is that we should use the recognizable logo to our advantage to make the user feel that this platform will suit their needs. And of course a handy one-click access to Facebook with desktop notifications is good in it's own right :) Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Facebook Fogger app out of the box
Hey There, Sorry about the super rude response! Unfortunately it doesn't line up with our plans to include a Facebook app by default and we are indeed past our feature freeze for including this extra functionality. But I think most of us probably use a range of online services from Google to Facebook or Twitter. So I believe in the future we will be doing some work on integrating web services a little better. Hope that answers your question. Best Regards, Daniel Foré El oct 8, 2012, a las 12:24 p.m., Nishant Agrwal nishantagrwal12...@gmail.com escribió: What do you guys think of providing a Fogger app for Facebook out of the box in Luna? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, refer to this article: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/fogger-can-turn-facebook-into-an-integrated-desktop-app-on-ubuntu I've used it, and it works rather well, actually. The killer feature for me would be the desktop notifications and the badges (which work fine with Plank). But that's not the reason I'm suggesting this. IMHO including Facebook as a first-class app (in that Plank and Slingshot handle it as one) would be a very good idea because let's face it, regardless of your personal opinion about Facebook, the target audience of elementary will use Facebook, and it will be pretty important to the user. When booting Luna for the first time, seeing the Facebook logo on the dock will give the user a feeling of familiarity and an impression of immediate usefulness. The main point here is that we should use the recognizable logo to our advantage to make the user feel that this platform will suit their needs. And of course a handy one-click access to Facebook with desktop notifications is good in it's own right :) Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
