Re: [elrepo] touchpad driver availability?
On 08/22/2013 09:40 PM, Phil Perry wrote: On 21/08/13 15:41, Ahmed wrote: On 08/21/2013 03:56 PM, Phil Perry wrote: On 21/08/13 08:16, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: On 08/21/2013 08:05 AM, Ahmed wrote: [...] Ahmad, is it possible that you disabled your touchpad with Fn key, or in BIOS? Also, try creating and login with brand new user, and see if that makes any difference. Also try old kernel and see if it works on it. 1- i never changed touch pad setting with Fn key or BIOS. 2- By creating new user there is no change in the touchpad behaviour 3- Yeah, when i switched to old kernel, touchpad works fine again. In this case you should file a bug at http://bugzilla.redhat.com, RHEL 6, the kernel component In addition to Wolfy's suggestion, can you also confirm which driver is being used, and the last kernel in which it worked plus the first kernel in which it is broken. We may then be able to find the regression and provide an interim fix until Red Hat is able to fix the issue more permanently. touchpad working in kernel 2.6.32-71.el6.x86_64 problem in the following kernel after running full system update 2.6.32-358.14.1.el6.x86_64 because i am a novice centos user, kindly let me know how can i confirm which driver is being used (which command to issue at command prompt)? No disrespect intended, but I'm afraid you are going to have to do a LOT more work to narrow down what (and where) the issue might be. You've gone from a base 6.0 installation where it worked to a fully updated 6.4 system where you now need to enable the trackpad on each boot. You really need to narrow down which update caused the system to break. It could be anything - it could be the kernel but just as likely it could be something in Xorg or gnome. Your system will have received hundreds of updates You might be able to eliminate some possibilities. For example, you could try elrepo's kernel-ml and kernel-lt packages which provide newer kernels and boot these to test if it works. If it works with either of these newer kernels then we might assume it is indeed an issue with the kernel driver. However, if the problem persists then I think we can rule out the kernel. What happens when you now boot to your original 2.6.32-71.el6.x86_64 kernel? Does it work then? IMHO I really don't think it's a kernel driver issue, or at least not one that an updated driver is going to fix - if it were I would not expect it to work when you enable the device in gnome-mouse-properties. This says to me it's more likely an issue in gnome/Xorg You could try to establish if it's a gnome issue by booting into KDE and seeing if it works under than Desktop Environment. You could go back to a fresh base 6.0 install and try updating one component at a time to find out what causes it to break. First just update the kernel, reboot and test. Does it still work? Then try updating Xorg, and repeat. Then gnome etc. Anyway, you get the idea - you need to eliminate some of the possibilities to help narrow the search. ___ elrepo mailing list elrepo@lists.elrepo.org http://lists.elrepo.org/mailman/listinfo/elrepo Thank you so much for your suggestions. i am using KDE as my default desktop environment and gnome is also installed in my centos box. when i login using KDE or Gnome, each time i issued the command gnome-mouse-properties. it effectively make the touchpad work. secondly, i already told that when i switched back to the old kernel, my touchpad works as intended. no problem at all. lastly, yeah i got the idea to install a fresh vm and then try to update the system one by one in the manner you suggested. After then i can be able to let you know what happened with those updates. Thank you very much ___ elrepo mailing list elrepo@lists.elrepo.org http://lists.elrepo.org/mailman/listinfo/elrepo
Re: [elrepo] touchpad driver availability?
On 08/23/2013 03:24 PM, Ahmed wrote: On 08/22/2013 09:40 PM, Phil Perry wrote: You could try to establish if it's a gnome issue by booting into KDE and seeing if it works under than Desktop Environment. You could go back to a fresh base 6.0 install and try updating one component at a time to find out what causes it to break. First just update the kernel, reboot and test. Does it still work? Then try updating Xorg, and repeat. Then gnome etc. Anyway, you get the idea - you need to eliminate some of the possibilities to help narrow the search. Thank you so much for your suggestions. i am using KDE as my default desktop environment and gnome is also installed in my centos box. when i login using KDE or Gnome, each time i issued the command gnome-mouse-properties. it effectively make the touchpad work. secondly, i already told that when i switched back to the old kernel, my touchpad works as intended. no problem at all. lastly, yeah i got the idea to install a fresh vm and then try to update the system one by one in the manner you suggested. After then i can be able to let you know what happened with those updates. Thank you very much I do not think you can test touchpad from VM, it has to be bare metal install. Just to confirm, is your problematic CentOS 6.4 system VM or bare metal system? -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant ___ elrepo mailing list elrepo@lists.elrepo.org http://lists.elrepo.org/mailman/listinfo/elrepo
Re: [elrepo] touchpad driver availability?
On 08/24/2013 01:47 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: On 08/23/2013 03:24 PM, Ahmed wrote: On 08/22/2013 09:40 PM, Phil Perry wrote: You could try to establish if it's a gnome issue by booting into KDE and seeing if it works under than Desktop Environment. You could go back to a fresh base 6.0 install and try updating one component at a time to find out what causes it to break. First just update the kernel, reboot and test. Does it still work? Then try updating Xorg, and repeat. Then gnome etc. Anyway, you get the idea - you need to eliminate some of the possibilities to help narrow the search. Thank you so much for your suggestions. i am using KDE as my default desktop environment and gnome is also installed in my centos box. when i login using KDE or Gnome, each time i issued the command gnome-mouse-properties. it effectively make the touchpad work. secondly, i already told that when i switched back to the old kernel, my touchpad works as intended. no problem at all. lastly, yeah i got the idea to install a fresh vm and then try to update the system one by one in the manner you suggested. After then i can be able to let you know what happened with those updates. Thank you very much I do not think you can test touchpad from VM, it has to be bare metal install. Just to confirm, is your problematic CentOS 6.4 system VM or bare metal system? oh sorry for the VM, my centos bare metal system is causing problems. Thanks ___ elrepo mailing list elrepo@lists.elrepo.org http://lists.elrepo.org/mailman/listinfo/elrepo
Re: [elrepo] touchpad driver availability?
On 22 August 2013 06:37, Ahmed ahmed.daud...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/21/2013 09:09 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Output of lspci command is needed: lspci -nnk should give you all the info you need, so copy part about touchpad. i issued the command described above, but it did not show any thing about touchpad. As 'root', please check the output produced by the following commands -- lsusb grep -i touchpad /var/log/messages grep -i touchpad /var/log/Xorg.0.log ___ elrepo mailing list elrepo@lists.elrepo.org http://lists.elrepo.org/mailman/listinfo/elrepo
Re: [elrepo] touchpad driver availability?
On 21/08/13 15:41, Ahmed wrote: On 08/21/2013 03:56 PM, Phil Perry wrote: On 21/08/13 08:16, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: On 08/21/2013 08:05 AM, Ahmed wrote: [...] Ahmad, is it possible that you disabled your touchpad with Fn key, or in BIOS? Also, try creating and login with brand new user, and see if that makes any difference. Also try old kernel and see if it works on it. 1- i never changed touch pad setting with Fn key or BIOS. 2- By creating new user there is no change in the touchpad behaviour 3- Yeah, when i switched to old kernel, touchpad works fine again. In this case you should file a bug at http://bugzilla.redhat.com, RHEL 6, the kernel component In addition to Wolfy's suggestion, can you also confirm which driver is being used, and the last kernel in which it worked plus the first kernel in which it is broken. We may then be able to find the regression and provide an interim fix until Red Hat is able to fix the issue more permanently. touchpad working in kernel 2.6.32-71.el6.x86_64 problem in the following kernel after running full system update 2.6.32-358.14.1.el6.x86_64 because i am a novice centos user, kindly let me know how can i confirm which driver is being used (which command to issue at command prompt)? No disrespect intended, but I'm afraid you are going to have to do a LOT more work to narrow down what (and where) the issue might be. You've gone from a base 6.0 installation where it worked to a fully updated 6.4 system where you now need to enable the trackpad on each boot. You really need to narrow down which update caused the system to break. It could be anything - it could be the kernel but just as likely it could be something in Xorg or gnome. Your system will have received hundreds of updates You might be able to eliminate some possibilities. For example, you could try elrepo's kernel-ml and kernel-lt packages which provide newer kernels and boot these to test if it works. If it works with either of these newer kernels then we might assume it is indeed an issue with the kernel driver. However, if the problem persists then I think we can rule out the kernel. What happens when you now boot to your original 2.6.32-71.el6.x86_64 kernel? Does it work then? IMHO I really don't think it's a kernel driver issue, or at least not one that an updated driver is going to fix - if it were I would not expect it to work when you enable the device in gnome-mouse-properties. This says to me it's more likely an issue in gnome/Xorg You could try to establish if it's a gnome issue by booting into KDE and seeing if it works under than Desktop Environment. You could go back to a fresh base 6.0 install and try updating one component at a time to find out what causes it to break. First just update the kernel, reboot and test. Does it still work? Then try updating Xorg, and repeat. Then gnome etc. Anyway, you get the idea - you need to eliminate some of the possibilities to help narrow the search. ___ elrepo mailing list elrepo@lists.elrepo.org http://lists.elrepo.org/mailman/listinfo/elrepo
Re: [elrepo] touchpad driver availability?
On 08/21/2013 03:56 PM, Phil Perry wrote: On 21/08/13 08:16, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: On 08/21/2013 08:05 AM, Ahmed wrote: [...] Ahmad, is it possible that you disabled your touchpad with Fn key, or in BIOS? Also, try creating and login with brand new user, and see if that makes any difference. Also try old kernel and see if it works on it. 1- i never changed touch pad setting with Fn key or BIOS. 2- By creating new user there is no change in the touchpad behaviour 3- Yeah, when i switched to old kernel, touchpad works fine again. In this case you should file a bug at http://bugzilla.redhat.com, RHEL 6, the kernel component In addition to Wolfy's suggestion, can you also confirm which driver is being used, and the last kernel in which it worked plus the first kernel in which it is broken. We may then be able to find the regression and provide an interim fix until Red Hat is able to fix the issue more permanently. ___ elrepo mailing list elrepo@lists.elrepo.org http://lists.elrepo.org/mailman/listinfo/elrepo Thanks for the reply. touchpad working in kernel 2.6.32-71.el6.x86_64 problem in the following kernel after running full system update 2.6.32-358.14.1.el6.x86_64 because i am a novice centos user, kindly let me know how can i confirm which driver is being used (which command to issue at command prompt)? ___ elrepo mailing list elrepo@lists.elrepo.org http://lists.elrepo.org/mailman/listinfo/elrepo
Re: [elrepo] touchpad driver availability?
On 08/21/2013 09:09 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: On 08/21/2013 04:41 PM, Ahmed wrote: On 08/21/2013 03:56 PM, Phil Perry wrote: On 21/08/13 08:16, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: On 08/21/2013 08:05 AM, Ahmed wrote: [...] Ahmad, is it possible that you disabled your touchpad with Fn key, or in BIOS? Also, try creating and login with brand new user, and see if that makes any difference. Also try old kernel and see if it works on it. 1- i never changed touch pad setting with Fn key or BIOS. 2- By creating new user there is no change in the touchpad behaviour 3- Yeah, when i switched to old kernel, touchpad works fine again. In this case you should file a bug at http://bugzilla.redhat.com, RHEL 6, the kernel component In addition to Wolfy's suggestion, can you also confirm which driver is being used, and the last kernel in which it worked plus the first kernel in which it is broken. We may then be able to find the regression and provide an interim fix until Red Hat is able to fix the issue more permanently. touchpad working in kernel 2.6.32-71.el6.x86_64 problem in the following kernel after running full system update 2.6.32-358.14.1.el6.x86_64 because i am a novice centos user, kindly let me know how can i confirm which driver is being used (which command to issue at command prompt)? Output of lspci command is needed: lspci -nnk should give you all the info you need, so copy part about touchpad. i issued the command described above, but it did not show any thing about touchpad. ___ elrepo mailing list elrepo@lists.elrepo.org http://lists.elrepo.org/mailman/listinfo/elrepo
