Re: jit-lock doesn't honor font-lock-lines-before

2005-09-02 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I suggest the patch below, which also sets the default value to 0: except
for some special modes which rely on font-lock-lines-before (and which
should thus set it explicitly to an appropriate value), setting it to
something more than 0 will just waste CPU.

If you change the default to 0, would you please modify C mode
to set it to 1?


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Re: [PATCH] intro.texi

2005-09-02 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Many of your suggested changes are good; I will comment on the ones
that I don't plan to use.

! In Lisp, the symbol @[EMAIL PROTECTED] has three separate meanings: it
is a symbol with the name @samp{nil}; it is the logical truth value

We don't write @dfn around @code.

@cindex documentation notation
+ @cindex notation, evaluation
+ @cindex notation, documentation

Having two index entries in the same place that start with the same
word is redundant; it would be better to add

@cindex notation

Examples in this manual indicate printed text with @[EMAIL PROTECTED],
irrespective of where that text goes. The value returned by
! evaluating the form (here @code{bar}) follows on a separate line with
! @[EMAIL PROTECTED]

@example
@group
--- 264,271 

Examples in this manual indicate printed text with @[EMAIL PROTECTED],
irrespective of where that text goes. The value returned by
! evaluating the form (in the example below: @code{bar}) follows on a
! separate line with @[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Using here is conventional, so it is good enough.

@defvar emacs-major-version
The major version number of Emacs, as an integer. For Emacs version
! 20.3, the value is @code{20}.

We don't write @code around values that are numbers.
It looks better not to do so.


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Re: jit-lock doesn't honor font-lock-lines-before

2005-09-02 Thread Richard M. Stallman
  Would that be bad?

It would slow down editing long lines.  jit-lock is supposed to make
editing faster.

That would be bad if the slowdown is substantial.  But we need
to see if it is substantial in order to see if it is bad.


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Re: recentf.el - digit shortcuts

2005-09-02 Thread David PONCE
Hi Karl,

 Here is a patch that adds shortcut keys and corresponding labels
 to recentf-dialog-mode (the mode that `recentf-open-files' uses).
 
 The variable `recentf-dialog-show-labels-p' controls whether labels
 are displayed, and could default to nil.
 
 I've been using this functionality for a long time and find it
 indispensable.  However, defadvice is brittle and I had to rewrite
 it every time recentf changed.
 
 I hope this feature is suitable for installing.

This is a good idea!  However your implementation fails when items are
grouped into sub-menus in the `recentf-open-files' dialog. Attached is
a reworked patch which fixes that bug, plus some minor cleanups. Could
you try it please. If it works as you expect I could commit it if
there is no objection from the other developers.

Thanks!

David

Index: lisp/recentf.el
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/emacs/emacs/lisp/recentf.el,v
retrieving revision 1.42
diff -c -r1.42 recentf.el
*** lisp/recentf.el 6 Aug 2005 22:13:43 -   1.42
--- lisp/recentf.el 2 Sep 2005 08:16:10 -
***
*** 259,264 
--- 259,272 
:group 'recentf
:type '(choice (const :tag None nil)
   function))
+ 
+ (defcustom recentf-show-file-shortcuts-flag t
+   Whether to show ``[N]'' for the Nth item up to 10.
+ If non-nil, `recentf-open-files' will show labels for keys that can be
+ used as shortcuts to open the Nth file.
+   :group 'recentf
+   :type 'boolean)
+ 
  
  ;;; Utilities
  ;;
***
*** 349,355 
Convert filename NAME to absolute, and canonicalize it.
  See also the function `expand-file-name'.
  If defined, call the function `recentf-filename-handler'
! to postprocess the canonical name.
(let* ((filename (expand-file-name name)))
  (or (and recentf-filename-handler
   (funcall recentf-filename-handler filename))
--- 357,363 
Convert filename NAME to absolute, and canonicalize it.
  See also the function `expand-file-name'.
  If defined, call the function `recentf-filename-handler'
! to post process the canonical name.
(let* ((filename (expand-file-name name)))
  (or (and recentf-filename-handler
   (funcall recentf-filename-handler filename))
***
*** 926,931 
--- 934,942 
  (set-keymap-parent km widget-keymap)
  (define-key km q 'recentf-cancel-dialog)
  (define-key km [down-mouse-1] 'widget-button-click)
+ ;; Keys in reverse order of appearence in help.
+ (dolist (k '(O 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1))
+   (define-key km k 'recentf-open-file-with-key))
  km)
Keymap used in recentf dialogs.)
  
***
*** 1063,1068 
--- 1074,1084 
(kill-buffer (current-buffer))
(funcall recentf-menu-action (widget-value widget)))
  
+ ;; File counter while building the `recentf-open-files' dialog.
+ (defvar recentf--file-count nil)
+ ;; List of files associated to a digit shortcut key.
+ (defvar recentf--files-with-key nil)
+ 
  (defun recentf-open-files-item (menu-element)
Return a widget to display MENU-ELEMENT in a dialog buffer.
(if (consp (cdr menu-element))
***
*** 1076,1083 
  ,@(mapcar 'recentf-open-files-item
(cdr menu-element)))
  ;; Represent a single file with a link widget
  `(link :tag ,(car menu-element)
!:button-prefix 
 :button-suffix 
 :button-face default
 :format %[%t%]\n
--- 1092,1108 
  ,@(mapcar 'recentf-open-files-item
(cdr menu-element)))
  ;; Represent a single file with a link widget
+ ;; Use digit shortcuts for the first ten files.
+ (setq recentf--file-count (+ 1 recentf--file-count))
+ (unless ( recentf--file-count 10)
+   (push (cdr menu-element) recentf--files-with-key))
  `(link :tag ,(car menu-element)
!:button-prefix ,(if recentf-show-file-shortcuts-flag
!(if ( recentf--file-count 10)
!
!  (format [%d] 
!  (% recentf--file-count 10)))
!  )
 :button-suffix 
 :button-face default
 :format %[%t%]\n
***
*** 1093,1116 
  use for the dialog.  It defaults to \*`recentf-menu-title'*\.
(interactive)
(recentf-dialog (or buffer-name (format *%s* recentf-menu-title))
! (widget-insert Click on a file to open it.
  Click on Cancel or type `q' to cancel.\n )
  ;; Use a LF that looks like the recentf menu.
  (tree-widget-set-theme folder)
  (apply 'widget-create
 `(group
   :indent 2
   :format \n%v\n
!  ,@(mapcar 'recentf-open-files-item
!(recentf-apply-menu-filter
! recentf-menu-filter
! 

(add-hook 'font-lock-mode-hook ...) keeps adding to font-lock-keywords

2005-09-02 Thread Klaus Zeitler

For a long time I've been using the simple show-tabs function below. With CVS
emacs I've noticed now that the same element gets appended to global
font-lock-keywords over and over again.


1. emacs -Q

2. M-x global-font-lock-mode

3. in scratch buffer evaluate the following 2 expressions:

(defun show-tabs () Show tabs with a slightly changed background
   (setq font-lock-keywords
(append font-lock-keywords '(([\t]+  (0 'tab-face t))
(add-hook 'font-lock-mode-hook 'show-tabs)

4. in scratch buffer: C-h v font-lock-keywords

Local in buffer *scratch*; global value is 
(([]+
  (0 'tab-face t)))

5. every C-h v font-lock-keywords adds one more entry to global
   font-lock-keywords

Value:
(t
 (([   ]+
   (0 'tab-face t)))
 ([]+
  (0 'tab-face t)))



Moreover if I load e.g. a text file, then C-h v in that buffer will give me
something like:

Value:
(t
 (([   ]+
   (0 'tab-face t)))
 ([]+
  (0 'tab-face t)))

Local in buffer x.txt; global value is 
(([]+
  (0 'tab-face t))
 ([]+
  (0 'tab-face t))
 ([]+
  (0 'tab-face t))
 ([]+
  (0 'tab-face t))
 ([]+
  (0 'tab-face t)))

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Re: jit-lock doesn't honor font-lock-lines-before

2005-09-02 Thread martin rudalics

 The default setting of font-lock-lines-before makes it a nop (as it
 should).  Major modes which rely on it should set it to the
 appropriate value.

You should modify the corresponding entry in the Elisp manual too.



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RE: patch for woman (woman-topic-at-point)

2005-09-02 Thread Dr Francis J Wright
 From: Richard M. Stallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday 28 August 2005 3:45 am
 To: Emilio Lopes
 Cc: Dr Francis J Wright; emacs-devel@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: patch for woman (woman-topic-at-point)
 
 It follows from the above that if you want to offer some 
 suggestion using
 the argument DEF of `completing-read' the suggestion must 
 be valid.
 
 Ok, so test it for validity and provide it as a default only 
 if it is valid.
 
 I see that's what your latest patch does.  I have not checked 
 it line by line, but it looks like the right overall.  
 Francis, do you agree?


I haven't checked the details either, but I'm happy with the principle of
this patch.

Francis



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Re: ispell/aspell problem

2005-09-02 Thread Magnus Henoch
Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have the following backtrace when I try to change the dictionary.
 The error comes from the fact that Emacs runs ispell dicts rather than
 aspell dicts.

 The same kind of problem appears in ispell-get-aspell-config-value where we
 also run ispell-program-name which may be ispell rather than aspell.

So the ispell command being run is actually aspell?  Which version?

The default value for ispell-program-name should find the real
aspell...

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Re: tiny patch to ange-ftp

2005-09-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
 Now I'm able to do things by setting `ange-ftp-send-hash' as nil
 and modifying `ange-ftp-insert-directory' slightly.  However,
 I'm not satisfied with it.  Though I'm making an effort at
 another work now, I'm going to tackle it again in the near
 future.  It will be completed if the problem of which hash mark
 printing breaks the synchronous operation is solved.

 I'm currently using ange-ftp.el which corrected as follows:

Your patch looks like a good first step.  I would check `full'
rather than (file-name-directory file) in order to determine whether to do
a full dir listing or to extract a single line.

Also I hoped that we would be able to use the cache so as to avoid doing the
full-listing+extract-line thingy repeatedly.  Using ange-ftp-get-files
should do the trick here.  But that can be changed later on.

Given that this fixes the problem mentioned in ange-ftp-send-cmd and should
be orthogonal to the problem of hash marks, I suggest we install your patch.

Any objections?


Stefan


 *** ange-ftp.el~  Thu Aug 11 21:55:21 2005
 --- ange-ftp.el   Thu Sep  1 23:08:06 2005
 ***
 *** 4498,4504 
  (if wildcard
  (let ((default-directory (file-name-directory file)))
(ange-ftp-ls (file-name-nondirectory file) switches nil nil t))
 !  (ange-ftp-ls file switches full
 (ange-ftp-real-insert-directory file switches wildcard full
  
   (defun ange-ftp-dired-uncache (dir)
 --- 4498,4519 
  (if wildcard
  (let ((default-directory (file-name-directory file)))
(ange-ftp-ls (file-name-nondirectory file) switches nil nil t))
 !  ;; That `file' doesn't have directory components means we're
 !  ;; going to do `ls' for a single file in the current directory.
 !  (if (file-name-directory file)
 !  (ange-ftp-ls file switches full)
 !;; Get a full listing of the current directory and extract
 !;; the line corresponding to `file'.
 !(when (string-match d\\' switches)
 !  ;; Remove d which dired added to `switches'.
 !  (setq switches (substring switches 0 (match-beginning 0
 !(setq tem (ange-ftp-ls . switches full))
 !(let ((case-fold-search nil))
 !  ;; Assume the file name which a single space precedes
 !  ;; appears at the end of a line.
 !  (if (string-match (concat ^.+  (regexp-quote file) $) tem)
 !  (concat (match-string 0 tem) \n)
 !))
 (ange-ftp-real-insert-directory file switches wildcard full
  
   (defun ange-ftp-dired-uncache (dir)


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Re: ispell/aspell problem

2005-09-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
 I have the following backtrace when I try to change the dictionary.
 The error comes from the fact that Emacs runs ispell dicts rather than
 aspell dicts.
 
 The same kind of problem appears in ispell-get-aspell-config-value where we
 also run ispell-program-name which may be ispell rather than aspell.

 So the ispell command being run is actually aspell?  Which version?

   % ispell -v
   @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.50.3)
   %


-- Stefan

PS: and BTW, I can't just upgrade it to 0.60, I'll have to wait until the
syadmins upgrade the system to Fedora Core 4 in some nebulous future
(they upgraded it to Fedora Core 2 last summer).


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Re: (add-hook 'font-lock-mode-hook ...) keeps adding to font-lock-keywords

2005-09-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
 (defun show-tabs () Show tabs with a slightly changed background
(setq font-lock-keywords
   (append font-lock-keywords '(([\t]+  (0 'tab-face t))
 (add-hook 'font-lock-mode-hook 'show-tabs)

font-lock-mode-hook is called both when turning the mode ON and when turning
the mode OFF.

font-lock-keywords should not be modified as you do.  Instead you should use
font-lock-add-keywords, which knows about font-lock-compile-keywords.


Stefan


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Re: jit-lock doesn't honor font-lock-lines-before

2005-09-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
 Would that be bad?
 It would slow down editing long lines.  jit-lock is supposed to make
 editing faster.

 That would be bad if the slowdown is substantial.  But we need
 to see if it is substantial in order to see if it is bad.

It's probably insignificant, and it's only for those modes which set
font-lock-lines-before to a non-0 value.


Stefan


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2005-09-02 Thread Hattie F. Drummond
There is this free date site filled with tons of sex-addicts.
No flowers, no gifts, just meet up for action :)

There are also a few who want a serious relationship though
So if you want a long-termer, or a one-nighter, you got it ;)
Whatever floats your boat pretty much! 


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expand-file-name problem for multibyte string.

2005-09-02 Thread Kyotaro HORIGUCHI
I've just found that expand-file-name returns unibyte string when
name is unibyte, ignoring whether default-directory is multibyte
or not.

(expand-file-name file /home/horiguti/À) = /home/horiguti/\201\300/file

(expand-file-name fileÀ /home/horiguti/a) = /home/horiguti/a/fileÀ
(expand-file-name fileÀ /home/horiguti/À) = /home/horiguti/À/fileÀ

The cause of this is that expand-file-name uses only NAME to
determine the bytewidth of the return string. But
DEFAULT-DIRECTORY is also needed. Attached patch fixes the bug,
but I confirmed it only on GNU/Linux and MS-Windows.

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--- fileio.c07 8 2005 12:33:16 +1.552
+++ fileio.c02 9 2005 16:35:19 +
@@ -1299,7 +1299,8 @@
{
  nm = sys_translate_unix (nm);
  return make_specified_string (nm, -1, strlen (nm),
-   STRING_MULTIBYTE (name));
+   STRING_MULTIBYTE (name)
+   || STRING_MULTIBYTE (default_directory));
}
 #endif /* VMS */
 #ifdef DOS_NT
@@ -1331,7 +1332,8 @@
  if (nm == SDATA (name))
return name;
  return make_specified_string (nm, -1, strlen (nm),
-   STRING_MULTIBYTE (name));
+   STRING_MULTIBYTE (name)
+   || STRING_MULTIBYTE (default_directory));
 #endif /* not DOS_NT */
}
 }
@@ -1709,7 +1711,8 @@
 #endif /* DOS_NT */
 
   result = make_specified_string (target, -1, o - target,
-  STRING_MULTIBYTE (name));
+  STRING_MULTIBYTE (name)
+  || STRING_MULTIBYTE (default_directory));
 
   /* Again look to see if the file name has special constructs in it
  and perhaps call the corresponding file handler.  This is needed



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Re: jit-lock doesn't honor font-lock-lines-before

2005-09-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
 I suggest the patch below, which also sets the default value to 0: except
 for some special modes which rely on font-lock-lines-before (and which
 should thus set it explicitly to an appropriate value), setting it to
 something more than 0 will just waste CPU.

 If you change the default to 0, would you please modify C mode
 to set it to 1?

I don't know where it's needed and neither do I know what's the correct
place to put such a thing in CC-mode.
Alan or Martin?


Stefan



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Re: Another stuff - Pharmaceutìcal

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Doc string for sort does not tell direction

2005-09-02 Thread Lennart Borgman
The doc string for sort does not tell the direction of the sort (ie 
ascending or descending).



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Re: Emacs icons

2005-09-02 Thread Esben Stien
Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can vector graphics be scaled to such small images

Well, it's vector;)

 What tools are used to create the SVG files?

inkscape

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Re: make `occur' use word at point as default

2005-09-02 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Why? There is currently a good deal of redundancy in the bindings for
`next-history-element' and `previous-history-element'. These minibuffer
history-list commands are bound to *FOUR PAIRS* of keys: (1) arrows [up] /
[down], (2) C-n / C-p, (3) M-n / M-p, and (4) [next] / [prior]. (Well,
actually, [prior] is then rebound to `switch-to-completions'.)

C-n and C-p do not run these commands; they do the usual cursor motion.
NEXT could conceivably be used to access another default.
But I think it would be more convenient to add it to the list for
C-p to access.


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Re: literal newlines in @result{} strings

2005-09-02 Thread Richard M. Stallman
What I mean is that printed representation of the result of evaluation
(which is displayed in the echo area, or inserted into the buffer) contains
a literal newline instead of `\n'.  So after evaluating examples from
the manual users will see different results when examples of output
contain `\n' in the manual, and the real displayed output contains
literal newlines.

That is plausible.

However, I asked people NOT to have a discussion of this,
because it is not important enough to be worth the time.
I made a decision in my first message on the subject.
Can we please stop this discussion?


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Re: Beginingless paragraphs

2005-09-02 Thread Richard M. Stallman
For example, I was tearing my hair out in frustration a couple of years
back, trying to get the sentence/paragraph movement and filling stuff to
work properly in CC Mode.

If the documentation of paragraph-start and paragraph-separate is not
clear enough, we can clarify it.  I doubt that this would take the
form of a definition of paragraphs, though.  The reason is that
there is no simple definition of paragraphs at the base of the
current code or these two variables.  The concepts that the design is
based on are the concepts that you see in the manual.

The four regexps documented on this page all define chunks of
natural-language text: paragraphs, pages and sentences.  So how about
renaming this @section something like Sentences, Paragraphs and Pages,
and making the focus of the @node the definition of these things in terms
of the regexps, rather than the regexps themselves?

I would be glad to consider a change of this sort.


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Re: grep-use-null-device

2005-09-02 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I think it is the wrong fix to just ignore an error which should not
occur in the first place.  Rather process-send-eof should be fixed not
to throw an error as long as the process is not considered dead from
Emacs' point of view.  That there is nobody to actually look at the
eof can't be considered a problem in asynchronous operations: the
consuming process can close down without waiting for an explicit eof.

That is a plausible argument, but I think the current way things work
is ok too.  This function is not used often, and catching the error
(when that's what you want) is not hard.


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Re: Beginingless paragraphs

2005-09-02 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I disagree most strongly here.  Hackers need to know how to set up
paragraph-s\(tart\|eparate\) so that they can make the canonical
paragraph commands behave the way they want them to.

This is precisely what the Emacs Manual documents now.

I think precisely is an overstatement.

No it isn't.  The topic that the existing text documents is precisely
the topic that you asked for.

If you suggest making the text clearer, that may be desirable,
but it is a different issue.


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RE: make `occur' use word at point as default

2005-09-02 Thread Drew Adams
There is currently a good deal of redundancy in the
bindings for `next-history-element' and
`previous-history-element'. These minibuffer history-list
commands are bound to *FOUR PAIRS* of keys: (1) arrows [up] /
[down], (2) C-n / C-p, (3) M-n / M-p, and (4) [next] /
[prior]. (Well, actually, [prior] is then rebound to
`switch-to-completions'.)

C-n and C-p do not run these commands; they do the usual cursor motion.

You're right. My bad.

NEXT could conceivably be used to access another default.
But I think it would be more convenient to add it to the list for
C-p to access.

I don't understand the last sentence. Do you mean add the [next] key to some
list? What list? Do you mean C-p or M-p? Sorry, I don't follow you here.



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RE: make `occur' use word at point as default

2005-09-02 Thread Drew Adams
C-n and C-p ... do the usual cursor motion
[in the minibuffer]

I replied:

You're right. My bad.

I should have added that I doubt that such up and down cursor motions are
very useful in the minibuffer.



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