Re: [Savannah-help-public] Re: The MH-E repository
Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I setup the [MH-E loginfo messages] (no alias). > > There should not be spam issues. Indeed. I just made a small test and it looks great! Thanks. -- Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel
Re: [Savannah-help-public] Re: The MH-E repository
On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 04:14:50PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
> Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 03:49:08PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
> > > Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The FSF set up an anti-spam rule that block mail "from AND to mailing
> > > > lists" :/
> > > >
> > > > However I/Miles/... should be able to setup an alias at fencepost :)
> > > > Indeed.
> > > >
> > > > Please tell me what you decide (whether commits should go to both
> > > > mailing lists or only mh-e-devel).
> > >
> > > It's time to proceed with this. But first, a couple of quick questions.
> > >
> > > I have not been able to find (your version of) the log_accum.pl script
> > > to confirm, but the following email implies that we might be able to say
> > > -m emacs-commit -m mh-e-devel on the command line:
> > >
> > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2001-11/msg01079.html
> >
> > Check
> > http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/administration/administration/infra/commit_prep-log_accum/log_accum.pl?rev=1.4&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> >
> > Apparently it should work there as well, my bad.
> >
> > > Then there's the question of the -D option as well.
> >
> > I don't think all combinations will be possible. Activating the diffs
> > globally for all lists should work.
> >
> > > Also, is there an option to generate unified diffs instead of context
> > > diffs? With large hunks, it's impossible to compare the changes in
> > > context diffs.
> >
> > Yes.
>
> Sylvain,
>
> Thanks for the pointer to the modified script. If I'm reading it
> correctly, I think that the MH-E developers would be happy (the log
> message and unified diffs for every file in the check-in combined within
> a single message) with a loginfo entry of:
>
> ^emacs/lisp/mh-e /bin/log_accum -T emacs -C -m [EMAIL PROTECTED] -m
> emacs-commit@gnu.org -D -u -r "" -s %{sVv}
>
> However, if you're correct in that your spam filter will deny this, then
> it should be changed to:
>
> ^emacs/lisp/mh-e /bin/log_accum -T emacs -C -m [EMAIL PROTECTED] -D -u -r
> "" -s %{sVv}
>
> and an mh-e-commit alias on fencepost should be created that contains
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Finally, if the emacs-commit community does not like getting the MH-E
> diffs (unified ones at that) in the same message as the log, then
> emacs-commit should be removed from the mailing list and interested
> individuals should subscribe (assuming that the mailing list is set up
> with mailman and rather than in /etc/aliases).
>
> Can you makes these changes for me please? If so, please let me know
> when I can test this. Thanks!
I setup the first solution (no alias).
There should not be spam issues.
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Re: [Savannah-help-public] Re: The MH-E repository
Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 03:49:08PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
> > Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > The FSF set up an anti-spam rule that block mail "from AND to mailing
> > > lists" :/
> > >
> > > However I/Miles/... should be able to setup an alias at fencepost :)
> > > Indeed.
> > >
> > > Please tell me what you decide (whether commits should go to both
> > > mailing lists or only mh-e-devel).
> >
> > It's time to proceed with this. But first, a couple of quick questions.
> >
> > I have not been able to find (your version of) the log_accum.pl script
> > to confirm, but the following email implies that we might be able to say
> > -m emacs-commit -m mh-e-devel on the command line:
> >
> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2001-11/msg01079.html
>
> Check
> http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/administration/administration/infra/commit_prep-log_accum/log_accum.pl?rev=1.4&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
>
> Apparently it should work there as well, my bad.
>
> > Then there's the question of the -D option as well.
>
> I don't think all combinations will be possible. Activating the diffs
> globally for all lists should work.
>
> > Also, is there an option to generate unified diffs instead of context
> > diffs? With large hunks, it's impossible to compare the changes in
> > context diffs.
>
> Yes.
Sylvain,
Thanks for the pointer to the modified script. If I'm reading it
correctly, I think that the MH-E developers would be happy (the log
message and unified diffs for every file in the check-in combined within
a single message) with a loginfo entry of:
^emacs/lisp/mh-e /bin/log_accum -T emacs -C -m [EMAIL PROTECTED] -m
emacs-commit@gnu.org -D -u -r "" -s %{sVv}
However, if you're correct in that your spam filter will deny this, then
it should be changed to:
^emacs/lisp/mh-e /bin/log_accum -T emacs -C -m [EMAIL PROTECTED] -D -u -r ""
-s %{sVv}
and an mh-e-commit alias on fencepost should be created that contains
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Finally, if the emacs-commit community does not like getting the MH-E
diffs (unified ones at that) in the same message as the log, then
emacs-commit should be removed from the mailing list and interested
individuals should subscribe (assuming that the mailing list is set up
with mailman and rather than in /etc/aliases).
Can you makes these changes for me please? If so, please let me know
when I can test this. Thanks!
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Re: [Savannah-help-public] Re: The MH-E repository
On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 03:49:08PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: > Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 09:13:37AM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: > > > Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 6/4/05, Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Considering that you want lisp/mh-e to notify both mh-e-devel and > > > > > emacs-commit, this is currently not possible in the current setup, > > > > > mainly because CVS's loginfo only matches one configuration file line, > > > > > and each line call our notification script that only accept 1 e-mail > > > > > address per kind of notifications (diff / nodiff). > > > > > > > > As a work-around, you could have it send to an alias (I mean one in > > > > /etc/aliases or equivalent) which in turn just forwards to both lists. > > > > > > That's true. What might be a better alternative is that I could (and > > > probably should) set up an mh-e-commits mailing list. I'd add > > > emacs-commits to that list. > > > > > > At first I thought that the Emacs folks would not really be interested > > > in seeing the MH-E commits, but perhaps that would not be the case. > > > > > > However, if the Emacs maintainers don't even *want* to have an > > > emacs-commits mailing list, then this is a moot point. Do they? > > > > The FSF set up an anti-spam rule that block mail "from AND to mailing > > lists" :/ > > > > However I/Miles/... should be able to setup an alias at fencepost :) > > Indeed. > > > > Please tell me what you decide (whether commits should go to both > > mailing lists or only mh-e-devel). > > Sylvain, > > It's time to proceed with this. But first, a couple of quick questions. > > I have not been able to find (your version of) the log_accum.pl script > to confirm, but the following email implies that we might be able to say > -m emacs-commit -m mh-e-devel on the command line: > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2001-11/msg01079.html Check http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/administration/administration/infra/commit_prep-log_accum/log_accum.pl?rev=1.4&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup Apparently it should work there as well, my bad. > Then there's the question of the -D option as well. I don't think all combinations will be possible. Activating the diffs globally for all lists should work. > Also, is there an option to generate unified diffs instead of context > diffs? With large hunks, it's impossible to compare the changes in > context diffs. Yes. -- Sylvain ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel
Re: [Savannah-help-public] Re: The MH-E repository
Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 09:13:37AM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: > > Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On 6/4/05, Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Considering that you want lisp/mh-e to notify both mh-e-devel and > > > > emacs-commit, this is currently not possible in the current setup, > > > > mainly because CVS's loginfo only matches one configuration file line, > > > > and each line call our notification script that only accept 1 e-mail > > > > address per kind of notifications (diff / nodiff). > > > > > > As a work-around, you could have it send to an alias (I mean one in > > > /etc/aliases or equivalent) which in turn just forwards to both lists. > > > > That's true. What might be a better alternative is that I could (and > > probably should) set up an mh-e-commits mailing list. I'd add > > emacs-commits to that list. > > > > At first I thought that the Emacs folks would not really be interested > > in seeing the MH-E commits, but perhaps that would not be the case. > > > > However, if the Emacs maintainers don't even *want* to have an > > emacs-commits mailing list, then this is a moot point. Do they? > > The FSF set up an anti-spam rule that block mail "from AND to mailing > lists" :/ > > However I/Miles/... should be able to setup an alias at fencepost :) > Indeed. > > Please tell me what you decide (whether commits should go to both > mailing lists or only mh-e-devel). Sylvain, It's time to proceed with this. But first, a couple of quick questions. I have not been able to find (your version of) the log_accum.pl script to confirm, but the following email implies that we might be able to say -m emacs-commit -m mh-e-devel on the command line: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2001-11/msg01079.html Then there's the question of the -D option as well. Also, is there an option to generate unified diffs instead of context diffs? With large hunks, it's impossible to compare the changes in context diffs. -- Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel
Re: [Savannah-help-public] Re: The MH-E repository
It should be possible for someone to write a filter to read the diffs that are already being mailed out, and discard all but those that pertain to the lisp/mh-e directory. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel
Re: [Savannah-help-public] Re: The MH-E repository
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 09:13:37AM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: > Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 6/4/05, Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Considering that you want lisp/mh-e to notify both mh-e-devel and > > > emacs-commit, this is currently not possible in the current setup, > > > mainly because CVS's loginfo only matches one configuration file line, > > > and each line call our notification script that only accept 1 e-mail > > > address per kind of notifications (diff / nodiff). > > > > As a work-around, you could have it send to an alias (I mean one in > > /etc/aliases or equivalent) which in turn just forwards to both lists. > > That's true. What might be a better alternative is that I could (and > probably should) set up an mh-e-commits mailing list. I'd add > emacs-commits to that list. > > At first I thought that the Emacs folks would not really be interested > in seeing the MH-E commits, but perhaps that would not be the case. > > However, if the Emacs maintainers don't even *want* to have an > emacs-commits mailing list, then this is a moot point. Do they? The FSF set up an anti-spam rule that block mail "from AND to mailing lists" :/ However I/Miles/... should be able to setup an alias at fencepost :) Indeed. Please tell me what you decide (whether commits should go to both mailing lists or only mh-e-devel). -- Sylvain ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel
Re: [Savannah-help-public] Re: The MH-E repository
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/4/05, Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Considering that you want lisp/mh-e to notify both mh-e-devel and > > emacs-commit, this is currently not possible in the current setup, > > mainly because CVS's loginfo only matches one configuration file line, > > and each line call our notification script that only accept 1 e-mail > > address per kind of notifications (diff / nodiff). > > As a work-around, you could have it send to an alias (I mean one in > /etc/aliases or equivalent) which in turn just forwards to both lists. That's true. What might be a better alternative is that I could (and probably should) set up an mh-e-commits mailing list. I'd add emacs-commits to that list. At first I thought that the Emacs folks would not really be interested in seeing the MH-E commits, but perhaps that would not be the case. However, if the Emacs maintainers don't even *want* to have an emacs-commits mailing list, then this is a moot point. Do they? -- Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel
Re: [Savannah-help-public] Re: The MH-E repository
On 6/4/05, Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Considering that you want lisp/mh-e to notify both mh-e-devel and > emacs-commit, this is currently not possible in the current setup, > mainly because CVS's loginfo only matches one configuration file line, > and each line call our notification script that only accept 1 e-mail > address per kind of notifications (diff / nodiff). As a work-around, you could have it send to an alias (I mean one in /etc/aliases or equivalent) which in turn just forwards to both lists. -Miles -- Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel
Re: [Savannah-help-public] Re: The MH-E repository
Considering that you want lisp/mh-e to notify both mh-e-devel and
emacs-commit, this is currently not possible in the current setup,
mainly because CVS's loginfo only matches one configuration file line,
and each line call our notification script that only accept 1 e-mail
address per kind of notifications (diff / nodiff).
Currently we do not have to resources to work on this script to bypass
CVS's limitations, but the source code is freely available at
administration/administration/infra/commit_prep-log_accum/ in the
administration project repository at Savannah.
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On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 04:25:14PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
> Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > If this switch comes to pass, would the Emacs developers mind if
> > I added
> > > the following line to CVSROOT/loginfo?
> > >
> > > lisp/mh-e $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/syncmail -u %{sVv} [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Would you please explain what this would do? I don't understand,
> > > but I can't say yes until I understand.
> >
> > This loginfo entry calls syncmail on each check-in for the lisp/mh-e
> > directory. The syncmail script, when run in the CVS loginfo context will
> > send a diff of each check-in to the given mailing list (mh-e-devel).
> >
> > Ok with me.
>
> Thanks.
>
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