[Orgmode] Tutorial on Remember mode

2008-07-27 Thread OldThunderbird

I have written a tutorial on how I use Remember mode at my
office and home. I have included Lisp code and screen shots to
illustrate the article.

Naturally, I wrote the artice in org-mode and published it
to HTML.

The link is
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~charles57/GTD/remember.html

Comments and feedback welcome!

Charles





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Re: [Orgmode] Tutorial on Remember mode

2008-07-27 Thread Richard G Riley

Hi,

Your notes prompted me to add the tags prompt into my templates - thanks
for that. But something strange. I have a template thus:

  (?e * %T %^{Title} %^g\n %i%?\n %a\n emacs.org
  Emacs)

What happens is that when entering the note I see the template tags
(boxquoted)

,
| * 2008-07-27 Sun 12:37  %^g
|  %?
`

when being prompted for Title in the minibuffer - is this as designed?




OldThunderbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have written a tutorial on how I use Remember mode at my
 office and home. I have included Lisp code and screen shots to
 illustrate the article.

 Naturally, I wrote the artice in org-mode and published it
 to HTML.

 The link is
 http://members.optusnet.com.au/~charles57/GTD/remember.html

 Comments and feedback welcome!

 Charles





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Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: property for the time part of a timestamp.

2008-07-27 Thread Jose Robins

Hi Carsten,
Thank you so much. Here is a dumb question. What is the return value 
datatype and the value for the function? Right now I'm running edebug to 
trace what is going on there to figure this out


Thanks,
Jose

Carsten Dominik wrote:

If you get the latest git version,  take a look at the variable
`org-columns-modify-value-for-display-function'.

HTH

- Carsten

On Jul 25, 2008, at 5:33 AM, Jose Robins wrote:




Carsten Dominik wrote:

Hi Robin,

On Jul 23, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Jose Robins wrote:

I've been extensively using column mode in the agenda buffer to 
plan my day/week. I have columns set up for scheduled and deadline. 
However, I was wondering if it'd be possible to expose just the 
time part of the scheduled timestamp as a property so that I 
could have a column for the time part of the timestamp (without the 
date). This would allow one to look @ the daily agenda and schedule 
time for tasks with just that column without bothering about the 
date (after all I'm already in today's agenda; so there is no need 
to see the date).


This would in principle be possible of course, basically a filter 
when displaying the column.

Hi Carsten,
Would this filter be something that would be done on the source end? 
If so, would you consider adding it? :)


The GoogleTech talk has inspired me to start hacking into the source 
code a bit and contributing back. As a baby step, I'm thinking about 
modifying the column view to display custom date formats for the date 
column. Any pointers on getting me going on this?


Thanks mucho,
Jose


But




Also if it'd be possible to sort the column view based on that 
column's contents it'd be great. That way, all the tasks will be 
sorted based on the time of the day that the task has been 
scheduled for. I guess I'm trying to use the column view similar to 
the time grid.


This does not make sense becaue column view still uses the outline 
structure of your file.  Why don't you just use the agenda or a 
timeline view for this?


- Carsten




Not sure if others' sort of planning methodology would benefit from 
this or not. I'm open to other ideas  that folks may feel is more 
efficient for achieving this as well.


Thanks,
Jose
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[Orgmode] some notes about installing org-mode on Sidux

2008-07-27 Thread Raimund Kohl-Füchsle

Hello all,

I faced some problems with using remember and org-mode and first I 
didn't connect them with either remember nor org-mode but with my use of 
aptitude instead, which is completely wrong with Sidux (well, we all 
learn ... )  However, in the end I thought to just mention a few of my 
experiences.  Since I am no expert, neither with emacs nor with any 
programming languages (-being just a lousy user instead-) I thought to 
mention them anyway :-) ... if all what I faced is connected with 
incompetence on my side, well, don't through tomatoes at me ... just 
smile, please :-)


Ok, first I installed Sidux, a system based on Debian sid, but 
stabilized and realy easy to use.  I installed emacs22 and became quite 
amazed learning that org-mode came along bundled with emacs22.  Yeah, I 
thought, great.  Since I came from Ubuntu, the only thing I needed to do 
was to outcomment


;;(require 'org-install)

and all went well.  However, after some time of using org-mode I became 
aware that when exporting to html CSS didn't work properly (which had 
worked before with Ubuntu!)  When researching the reason I found out 
that the version that came bundled with emacs22 is a very old version 
(AFAIR 4.65, and I guess back then there had been no org-install 
variable and that was the reason why I was to outcomment it to have 
org-mode working ... right?).  Next I found out that there existed a 
seperate deb pakage org-mode which then delivered the newest version.  
And this one needs to have set (require 'org-install) otherwise it will 
not work (at least) with remember-el.  I may have overlooked that in the 
manual that older versions don't accept org-install, but newer 
versions need it to work properly.


Also according to my fresh experience it seems to matter if

   (require 'org-install)


is called *before* e.g.:

   (org-remember-insinuate)
   (setq org-directory ~/Rollen/Org/)
   (define-key global-map \C-cr 'org-remember)


If not emacs complains about a void org-remember-insinuate and will not 
work together with remember-el.


There is another thing that I noted when installing org-mode.  Here the 
install note:


---snip---

In org-indent-to-column:
org-compat.el:212:5:Warning: `indent-to-column' called with 3 args, but
   requires 1-2

---snap---

Ok, so that was what I wanted to mention ...

ray



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Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: property for the time part of a timestamp.

2008-07-27 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi Robin, the function must return the string that you'd like to have  
inserted as the value in the column.  For example, to get the time,  
use something like (untested)


(defun my-org-column-cleaner (title value)
   (cond
 ((equal title TIME)
  (if (and value (= (length value) 20))
  (substring value 15 20)
 nil ; there was no value, or it was a short string
 ))
  (t nil)))
(setq org-columns-modify-value-for-display-function 'my-org-column- 
cleaner)


HTH

- Carsten

On Jul 27, 2008, at 6:03 AM, Jose Robins wrote:


Hi Carsten,
Thank you so much. Here is a dumb question. What is the return value  
datatype and the value for the function? Right now I'm running  
edebug to trace what is going on there to figure this out


Thanks,
Jose

Carsten Dominik wrote:


If you get the latest git version,  take a look at the variable
`org-columns-modify-value-for-display-function'.

HTH

- Carsten

On Jul 25, 2008, at 5:33 AM, Jose Robins wrote:




Carsten Dominik wrote:


Hi Robin,

On Jul 23, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Jose Robins wrote:

I've been extensively using column mode in the agenda buffer to  
plan my day/week. I have columns set up for scheduled and  
deadline. However, I was wondering if it'd be possible to expose  
just the time part of the scheduled timestamp as a property so  
that I could have a column for the time part of the timestamp  
(without the date). This would allow one to look @ the daily  
agenda and schedule time for tasks with just that column without  
bothering about the date (after all I'm already in today's  
agenda; so there is no need to see the date).


This would in principle be possible of course, basically a filter  
when displaying the column.

Hi Carsten,
Would this filter be something that would be done on the source  
end? If so, would you consider adding it? :)


The GoogleTech talk has inspired me to start hacking into the  
source code a bit and contributing back. As a baby step, I'm  
thinking about modifying the column view to display custom date  
formats for the date column. Any pointers on getting me going on  
this?


Thanks mucho,
Jose


But




Also if it'd be possible to sort the column view based on that  
column's contents it'd be great. That way, all the tasks will be  
sorted based on the time of the day that the task has been  
scheduled for. I guess I'm trying to use the column view similar  
to the time grid.


This does not make sense becaue column view still uses the  
outline structure of your file.  Why don't you just use the  
agenda or a timeline view for this?


- Carsten




Not sure if others' sort of planning methodology would benefit  
from this or not. I'm open to other ideas  that folks may feel  
is more efficient for achieving this as well.


Thanks,
Jose
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Re: [Orgmode] Tutorial on Remember mode

2008-07-27 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jul 27, 2008, at 3:43 AM, Richard G Riley wrote:



Hi,

Your notes prompted me to add the tags prompt into my templates -  
thanks

for that. But something strange. I have a template thus:

  (?e * %T %^{Title} %^g\n %i%?\n %a\n emacs.org
  Emacs)

What happens is that when entering the note I see the template tags
(boxquoted)

,
| * 2008-07-27 Sun 12:37  %^g
|  %?
`

when being prompted for Title in the minibuffer - is this as  
designed?


Yes.  Org-mode insterts the template and then walks through
the template to fill in all escape sequences.  If ou have several  
prompts,

you will see intermediate steps.

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: property for the time part of a timestamp.

2008-07-27 Thread Jose Robins

Hi Carsten,
Works beautifully! Thanks

Jose

Carsten Dominik wrote:
Hi Robin, the function must return the string that you'd like to have 
inserted as the value in the column.  For example, to get the time, 
use something like (untested)


(defun my-org-column-cleaner (title value)
   (cond
 ((equal title TIME)
  (if (and value (= (length value) 20))
  (substring value 15 20)
 nil ; there was no value, or it was a short string
 ))
  (t nil)))
(setq org-columns-modify-value-for-display-function 
'my-org-column-cleaner)


HTH

- Carsten

On Jul 27, 2008, at 6:03 AM, Jose Robins wrote:


Hi Carsten,
Thank you so much. Here is a dumb question. What is the return value 
datatype and the value for the function? Right now I'm running edebug 
to trace what is going on there to figure this out


Thanks,
Jose

Carsten Dominik wrote:

If you get the latest git version,  take a look at the variable
`org-columns-modify-value-for-display-function'.

HTH

- Carsten

On Jul 25, 2008, at 5:33 AM, Jose Robins wrote:




Carsten Dominik wrote:

Hi Robin,

On Jul 23, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Jose Robins wrote:

I've been extensively using column mode in the agenda buffer to 
plan my day/week. I have columns set up for scheduled and 
deadline. However, I was wondering if it'd be possible to expose 
just the time part of the scheduled timestamp as a property so 
that I could have a column for the time part of the timestamp 
(without the date). This would allow one to look @ the daily 
agenda and schedule time for tasks with just that column without 
bothering about the date (after all I'm already in today's 
agenda; so there is no need to see the date).


This would in principle be possible of course, basically a filter 
when displaying the column.

Hi Carsten,
Would this filter be something that would be done on the source 
end? If so, would you consider adding it? :)


The GoogleTech talk has inspired me to start hacking into the 
source code a bit and contributing back. As a baby step, I'm 
thinking about modifying the column view to display custom date 
formats for the date column. Any pointers on getting me going on this?


Thanks mucho,
Jose


But




Also if it'd be possible to sort the column view based on that 
column's contents it'd be great. That way, all the tasks will be 
sorted based on the time of the day that the task has been 
scheduled for. I guess I'm trying to use the column view similar 
to the time grid.


This does not make sense becaue column view still uses the outline 
structure of your file.  Why don't you just use the agenda or a 
timeline view for this?


- Carsten




Not sure if others' sort of planning methodology would benefit 
from this or not. I'm open to other ideas  that folks may feel is 
more efficient for achieving this as well.


Thanks,
Jose
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[Orgmode] Problem with tags

2008-07-27 Thread srandby
When I do a tag search (C-c \), the headline containing the tag is 
displayed along with the next headline (which does not contain the tag I 
was searching for) at that level if there is one. I don't want the next 
headline displayed. How do I adjust org-mode to stop displaying these 
undesired headlines?


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[Orgmode] Displaying column titles in column view

2008-07-27 Thread Steven E. Harris
The section on Column Attributes in the org manual¹ mentions that one
can define a title for a column to be used as the header
text. Following Egli Christian's example², I defined a column format in
a properties drawer as follows:

,
| :COLUMNS: %40ITEM(Task) %Effort(Estimated Effort){+}
`

If I make a tree of tasks and inclued an Effort property in each,
entering Column Mode behaves mostly as expected; I can edit the two
attributes for each of the tasks situated beneath that properties
drawer.

One thing I see in the images³ related to the aforementioned example is
a header across the top of the column view with the column titles as
defined in the format property above. No such header appears when I
enter Column Mode here.

Is there a special incantation to make the header visible?


Footnotes: 
¹ http://orgmode.org/manual/Column-attributes.html
² http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5107/focus=5134
³ http://cache.gmane.org//gmane/emacs/orgmode/5134-004.bin

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Re: [Orgmode] Displaying column titles in column view

2008-07-27 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Steven E. Harris wrote:


The section on Column Attributes in the org manual¹ mentions that one
can define a title for a column to be used as the header
text. Following Egli Christian's example², I defined a column  
format in

a properties drawer as follows:

,
| :COLUMNS: %40ITEM(Task) %Effort(Estimated Effort){+}
`

If I make a tree of tasks and inclued an Effort property in each,
entering Column Mode behaves mostly as expected; I can edit the two
attributes for each of the tasks situated beneath that properties
drawer.

One thing I see in the images³ related to the aforementioned example  
is

a header across the top of the column view with the column titles as
defined in the format property above. No such header appears when I
enter Column Mode here.

Is there a special incantation to make the header visible?


No that should happen automatic.  What versions of Emacs and org-mode  
are you using?


- Carsten





Footnotes:
¹ http://orgmode.org/manual/Column-attributes.html
² http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5107/focus=5134
³ http://cache.gmane.org//gmane/emacs/orgmode/5134-004.bin

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Re: [Orgmode] Problem with tags

2008-07-27 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jul 27, 2008, at 10:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When I do a tag search (C-c \), the headline containing the tag is  
displayed along with the next headline (which does not contain the  
tag I was searching for) at that level if there is one. I don't want  
the next headline displayed. How do I adjust org-mode to stop  
displaying these undesired headlines?


This is controlled be the variable `org-show-following-heading'.  The  
default in recent versions is nil, the fact that you do see these  
exposed must mean that you are using an oder version of org-mode, or  
that you have configured this variable yourself.


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[Orgmode] Re: Displaying column titles in column view

2008-07-27 Thread Steven E. Harris
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What versions of Emacs and org-mode are you using?

XEmacs version 21.4.21 (Cygwin)
Org-mode version 6.06b

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[Orgmode] Re: Displaying column titles in column view

2008-07-27 Thread Steven E. Harris
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 No that should happen automatic.

Here's the complete document:

* Top
  :PROPERTIES:
  :COLUMNS:  %40ITEM(Task) %Effort(Estimated Effort){+}
  :END:
** First
   :PROPERTIES:
   :Effort:   2
   :END:
** Second
   :PROPERTIES:
   :Effort:   3
   :END:
** Third
   :PROPERTIES:
   :Effort:   40
   :END:

Pressing C-c C-x C-c, then `c', produces the following layout:

attachment: org-columns.png
Note also the extra letter in the far-right column, which looks like the
first letter of each item.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Displaying column titles in column view

2008-07-27 Thread Manish
  On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Steven E. Harris wrote:
  
   Here's the complete document:
  
   * Top
:PROPERTIES:
:COLUMNS:  %40ITEM(Task) %Effort(Estimated Effort){+}
:END:
   ** First
 :PROPERTIES:
 :Effort:   2
 :END:
   ** Second
 :PROPERTIES:
 :Effort:   3
 :END:
   ** Third
 :PROPERTIES:
 :Effort:   40
 :END:
  
   Pressing C-c C-x C-c, then `c', produces the following layout:
  

Try this:

,
| :COLUMNS:  %40ITEM(Task) %16Effort(Estimated Effort){+}
`

   Note also the extra letter in the far-right column, which looks like
   the first letter of each item.

Strange.  I did not see this when I tried your example.

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Re: [Orgmode] Problem with tags

2008-07-27 Thread srandby
Thanks for the solution. I believe that I am using an older version of 
org-mode. I will upgrade later, but setting the 
`org-show-following-heading' variable to nil will do for now.


Scott Randby

Carsten Dominik wrote:


On Jul 27, 2008, at 10:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When I do a tag search (C-c \), the headline containing the tag is 
displayed along with the next headline (which does not contain the tag 
I was searching for) at that level if there is one. I don't want the 
next headline displayed. How do I adjust org-mode to stop displaying 
these undesired headlines?


This is controlled be the variable `org-show-following-heading'.  The 
default in recent versions is nil, the fact that you do see these 
exposed must mean that you are using an oder version of org-mode, or 
that you have configured this variable yourself.


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[Orgmode] Re: Displaying column titles in column view

2008-07-27 Thread Steven E. Harris
Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Try this:

 ,
 | :COLUMNS:  %40ITEM(Task) %16Effort(Estimated Effort){+}
 `

Other than the second column being wider, it produced the same outcome.

 Strange.  I did not see this when I tried your example.

Which Emacs variant are you using?

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Displaying column titles in column view

2008-07-27 Thread Manish
  On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Steven E. Harris wrote:
   Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   Try this:
  
   ,
   | :COLUMNS:  %40ITEM(Task) %16Effort(Estimated Effort){+}
   `
  
   Other than the second column being wider, it produced the same outcome.
  
   Strange.  I did not see this when I tried your example.
  
   Which Emacs variant are you using?

I tested on GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) and
GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i686-pc-cygwin) with latest checkout of
Org (commit c542119a.)

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[Orgmode] move org item

2008-07-27 Thread Richard G Riley

Sorry, but I cant see it in the manual (rubs eyes) but is it possible to
move an item(s) from one org type/file to another file?

e.g I have something in my generals tasks file and then want to refile
it in my emacs org file.

I realise I can refile to another category in the same file using C-c
C-w (org-refile).

regards

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[Orgmode] Re: move org item

2008-07-27 Thread Bernt Hansen
Richard G Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sorry, but I cant see it in the manual (rubs eyes) but is it possible to
 move an item(s) from one org type/file to another file?

 e.g I have something in my generals tasks file and then want to refile
 it in my emacs org file.

 I realise I can refile to another category in the same file using C-c
 C-w (org-refile).

I tend to just fold the task, cut it, and paste it in the other file
... followed by refiling it if necessary to the 'right' place in the new
file.  Maybe there's an easier way I'm unaware of.

-Bernt


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: move org item

2008-07-27 Thread Manish
  On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Bernt Hansen wrote:
   Richard G Riley writes:
  
   Sorry, but I cant see it in the manual (rubs eyes) but is it
   possible to move an item(s) from one org type/file to another file?
  
   e.g I have something in my generals tasks file and then want to
   refile it in my emacs org file.
  
   I realise I can refile to another category in the same file using
   C-c C-w (org-refile).
  
   I tend to just fold the task, cut it, and paste it in the other file
   ... followed by refiling it if necessary to the 'right' place in the
   new file.  Maybe there's an easier way I'm unaware of.

This troubled me a lot as well but I have found following setting to
be of good use:

  (setq org-refile-targets (quote ((org-agenda-files :regexp . *

-- Manish


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[Orgmode] Reveal Problem

2008-07-27 Thread srandby
I upgraded my org-mode to 6.06b which took care of the problem of 
showing undesired headlines after a search, but a new issue has arisen.


Say I have the following text:

* Grades
** Student 1
*** Exams  :exams:
Exam scores
*** Homework  :homework:
Homework scores
** Student 2
*** Exams  :exams:
Exam scores
*** Homework  :homework:
Homework scores

If I do 'C-c \ exams' I get the following:

* Grades
** Student 1
*** Exams  :exams:
** Student 2
*** Exams  :exams:

If I now hit TAB with the cursor on the third line down, I get this:

* Grades
** Student 1
*** Exams  :exams:
Exam scores
*** Homework  :homework:
** Student 2
*** Exams  :exams:

The problem is that I don't want the '*** Homework :homework:' line to 
be displayed. I've played around with the org-reveal-location 
customizations, but I can't find any way to stop the display of the 
unwanted headline. Is there a way to do this?


Scott Randby


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