[Orgmode] Re: A much simpler way of handling dependent tasks
Hi John, I realize now that you do not make use of the code in org-depend.el at all, which is what I thought at first. Two options: - I can add the file, but then under a different name - org-depend and org-depends are not different in the first 8 characters. - I can move the code to org-agenda.el and create a variable to turn this behavior on and off. - Carsten On Jan 27, 2009, at 8:31 AM, John Wiegley wrote: On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:47 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Do you think it makes sense to integrate this code into org- depend.el? Actually, I don't, since it's a completely different approach. org- depend.el as it stands now is based on a programmatic methodology, which more complex blocking schemes could be built on top of. I think this module represents something much simpler, which should be toggled by a single global boolean to indicate "on" or "off". My preference would be to see it mainlined, if that meets with your approval, Carsten. John ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: A much simpler way of handling dependent tasks
On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:47 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Do you think it makes sense to integrate this code into org-depend.el? Actually, I don't, since it's a completely different approach. org- depend.el as it stands now is based on a programmatic methodology, which more complex blocking schemes could be built on top of. I think this module represents something much simpler, which should be toggled by a single global boolean to indicate "on" or "off". My preference would be to see it mainlined, if that meets with your approval, Carsten. John ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Problem with org-batch-agenda
I guess this would be a good FAQ entry. Would you like to write one?
- Carsten
On Jan 26, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Mark Elston wrote:
Carsten,
Thanks. The quoting was the problem. I changed the line from what
I had below to:
c:\emacs-22.3\bin\emacs.exe -batch -l ~/_emacs_org -eval \
"(org-batch-agenda \"S\")"
and it now works like I expect.
Perhaps there should be somewhere to deal with some of these platform
specific issues so we don't run into them multiple times...
Mark
* Carsten Dominik wrote (on 1/24/2009 7:58 AM):
On Jan 23, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Mark Elston wrote:
I am trying to export information from my org files and am
getting an error every time I run the batch file (Windows XP)
I am starting with a stripped down .emacs file which just sets up
my load path then does the following:
;
;;ORG MODE
(require 'org-install)
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.org$" . org-mode))
(setq org-log-done 'time)
(setq org-agenda-include-diary t)
(setq org-directory "~/org/")
(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
'(("S" "Schedule for the week plus TODO's"
((agenda "")
(todo "TODO")
My batch file looks like this:
c:\emacs-22.3\bin\emacs.exe -batch -l ~/_emacs_org -eval '(org-
batch-agenda "S")'
This works for me, but it is possible that quoting in a windows
batch file works differently?
The error message looks to me as if there is a parsing error for
the -eval form.
- Carsten
When I run this from the command line I get:
Loading c:/Home/emacs-22/precompile.el (source)...
Loading c:/Home/emacs-22/all_org.el (source)...
Loading c:/Home/emacs-22/melston-note-paths.el (source)...
Done loading ~/emacs/all_org
Loading c:/Home/emacs-22/custom.el (source)...
Loading gnus...
Done loading init file
End of file during parsing
I saw this mentioned in the list at gmane but never saw
any resolution for it. Any ideas?
Mark
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Re: [Orgmode] Please test 6.19a
On Jan 26, 2009, at 8:20 PM, Christopher Suckling wrote: On 26 Jan 2009, at 07:24, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Jan 25, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Christopher Suckling wrote: On 25 Jan 2009, at 16:06, Carsten Dominik wrote: I just uploaded org 6.19a into Emacs CVS, so that it can still be part of the Emacs 23.1 pretest and release. Please test the latest release and let me know as soon as possible if there are any regressions. Two small niggles. 1) :VISIBILITY: property Suppose I have the headings * Foo * Bar * COMMENT setup for buffer :PROPERTIES: :VISIBILITY: folded :END: #+STARTUP: overview #+Rest of options go here On loading the file, *Foo and *Bar are folder, as expected. *COMMENT, however shows its content. Changing value of :VISIBILITY: has no effect. I'm afraid I can't pinpoint in which version this started to happen, but I'm fairly certain it was in the last fortnight. I cannot reproduce this, works fine for me. Anything the the *Messages* buffer that indicates that visiting a new buffer in Org-mode crashes half-way, i.e. before the ful setup has finished? Nothing in *Messages*, but I suspect: My fault: I had (setq org-show-entry-below t) in my .emacs from playing around with sparse trees. Setting it to (default . nil) fixes the VISIBILITY problem. So I learn that org-show-entry-below takes priority over VISIBILITY properties... Which is actually a bug, fixed now, thanks. Best wishes, Christopher ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: A much simpler way of handling dependent tasks
Do you think it makes sense to integrate this code into org-depend.el? - Carsten On Jan 26, 2009, at 10:16 PM, John Wiegley wrote: I've been wanting a simple method for managing dependent tasks for some time now, and only now did it occur to me that I could just implement a much simpler method using your current blocking mechanism. The attached file, confusingly named org-depends.el, implements the following scheme: 1. Any TODO which has incomplete child TODOs is blocked. 2. If a parent TODO has the ORDERED property, it's children must be completed in order. Undone siblings block later siblings. 3. Blocked items are greyed out in the agenda list. John ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: A much simpler way of handling dependent tasks
On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:18 AM, Jesse Alama wrote: Oliver Charles writes: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 05:16:17PM -0400, John Wiegley wrote: I've been wanting a simple method for managing dependent tasks for some time now, and only now did it occur to me that I could just implement a much simpler method using your current blocking mechanism. The attached file, confusingly named org-depends.el, implements the following scheme: [ ... ] This is very cool and I'm immediately in love with it! I'll let you know if I have any problems, but it seems like it just works. Neat. Any chance of putting this into the org codebase (if not as one of the core modules, then as a contrib module)? Anything John sends my way gets a pretty good chance at that :-) - Carsten Jesse -- Jesse Alama (al...@stanford.edu) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: A much simpler way of handling dependent tasks
On Jan 26, 2009, at 5:16 PM, John Wiegley wrote: The attached file, confusingly named org-depends.el, implements the following scheme: I found a bug which would cause a Lisp error when trying to change the state of top-level TODO items. The attached version (now 1.0) fixes this. John org-depends.el Description: Binary data ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Using SCHEDULED to indicate task start date
> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:45:03 + > From: Nick Bell > Subject: [Orgmode] Using SCHEDULED to indicate task start date > To: Emacs org-mode list > Message-ID: <497de88f.4040...@nickbell.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dear org-mode users and developers, > > [Using 6.17 here.] > > SCHEDULED nicely hides TODOs from agenda views until on/after the > SCHEDULED date. > > I'd like to hide TODOs whose SCHEDULED date is in the future from the > global todo list (C-c a t) . > > 'Org Agenda Todo Ignore Scheduled' option hides all scheduled TODOs, > including those whose scheduled date is in the past, so won't work for me. > > In other words, I'd like to use SCHEDULED function as a kind of 'start > date' for a TODO, before which it won't appear on agenda or global todo > lists. Is this possible? > I would actually suggest that it would be better to put in some form of NOTBEFORE (better name anyone?) that would do the hiding, instead of (mis) using SCHEDULED for this purpose. I looked into the org-mode code and it's very nicely structured so that it should not be hard to add this. I have been meaning to get around to it myself, but haven't been able to take time away from what I'm paid to do for this "recreational programming" yet best, r ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: A much simpler way of handling dependent tasks
Oliver Charles writes: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 05:16:17PM -0400, John Wiegley wrote: >> I've been wanting a simple method for managing dependent tasks for some >> time now, and only now did it occur to me that I could just implement a >> much simpler method using your current blocking mechanism. >> >> The attached file, confusingly named org-depends.el, implements the >> following scheme: >> >> [ ... ] > > This is very cool and I'm immediately in love with it! I'll let you > know if I have any problems, but it seems like it just works. Neat. Any chance of putting this into the org codebase (if not as one of the core modules, then as a contrib module)? Jesse -- Jesse Alama (al...@stanford.edu) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] A much simpler way of handling dependent tasks
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 05:16:17PM -0400, John Wiegley wrote: > I've been wanting a simple method for managing dependent tasks for some > time now, and only now did it occur to me that I could just implement a > much simpler method using your current blocking mechanism. > > The attached file, confusingly named org-depends.el, implements the > following scheme: > > [ ... ] This is very cool and I'm immediately in love with it! I'll let you know if I have any problems, but it seems like it just works. Neat. -- Oliver Charles / aCiD2 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Using SCHEDULED to indicate task start date
Bernt Hansen wrote: No, the reason for using any of org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date is to get those tasks off the global todo list. They show up in your agenda at the appropriate time and you don't need them in the global todo list at all. I work off my agenda first, and when that's clear then I go to the global todo list for other tasks - and I don't want to see anything that has a date there - since they're already set up to show up at the appropriate time on my agenda. You might be able to set up a column view that shows the scheduled/deadline date and then ignore tasks with dates in the past but I've never tried that. HTH, Bernt Thanks, that was helpful - I was overcomplicating things. Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Using SCHEDULED to indicate task start date
Nick Bell writes: > [Using 6.17 here.] > > SCHEDULED nicely hides TODOs from agenda views until on/after the > SCHEDULED date. > > I'd like to hide TODOs whose SCHEDULED date is in the future from the > global todo list (C-c a t) . > > 'Org Agenda Todo Ignore Scheduled' option hides all scheduled TODOs, > including those whose scheduled date is in the past, so won't work for > me. > > In other words, I'd like to use SCHEDULED function as a kind of 'start > date' for a TODO, before which it won't appear on agenda or global > todo lists. Is this possible? > No, the reason for using any of org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date is to get those tasks off the global todo list. They show up in your agenda at the appropriate time and you don't need them in the global todo list at all. I work off my agenda first, and when that's clear then I go to the global todo list for other tasks - and I don't want to see anything that has a date there - since they're already set up to show up at the appropriate time on my agenda. You might be able to set up a column view that shows the scheduled/deadline date and then ignore tasks with dates in the past but I've never tried that. HTH, Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] A much simpler way of handling dependent tasks
I've been wanting a simple method for managing dependent tasks for some time now, and only now did it occur to me that I could just implement a much simpler method using your current blocking mechanism. The attached file, confusingly named org-depends.el, implements the following scheme: 1. Any TODO which has incomplete child TODOs is blocked. 2. If a parent TODO has the ORDERED property, it's children must be completed in order. Undone siblings block later siblings. 3. Blocked items are greyed out in the agenda list. John org-depends.el Description: Binary data ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Latex export, unnumbered sections
Carsten Dominik writes: > There is no support for mixed numbered/unnumbered sections. And I don't > really think want to put that in. Seems to me that this would be > the point where you want to switch over to LaTeX itself. Indeed, org-mode doesn't aim at being a LaTeX front-end. I was just thinking that tags could have an impact on export, much like CSS, but for LaTeX. Now, it sounds way much complicated. Anyway, I perfectly get your point. Thanks. -- Nicolas Goaziou ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Please test 6.19a
On 26 Jan 2009, at 07:24, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Jan 25, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Christopher Suckling wrote: On 25 Jan 2009, at 16:06, Carsten Dominik wrote: I just uploaded org 6.19a into Emacs CVS, so that it can still be part of the Emacs 23.1 pretest and release. Please test the latest release and let me know as soon as possible if there are any regressions. Two small niggles. 1) :VISIBILITY: property Suppose I have the headings * Foo * Bar * COMMENT setup for buffer :PROPERTIES: :VISIBILITY: folded :END: #+STARTUP: overview #+Rest of options go here On loading the file, *Foo and *Bar are folder, as expected. *COMMENT, however shows its content. Changing value of :VISIBILITY: has no effect. I'm afraid I can't pinpoint in which version this started to happen, but I'm fairly certain it was in the last fortnight. I cannot reproduce this, works fine for me. Anything the the *Messages* buffer that indicates that visiting a new buffer in Org-mode crashes half-way, i.e. before the ful setup has finished? Nothing in *Messages*, but I suspect: My fault: I had (setq org-show-entry-below t) in my .emacs from playing around with sparse trees. Setting it to (default . nil) fixes the VISIBILITY problem. So I learn that org-show-entry-below takes priority over VISIBILITY properties... Best wishes, Christopher ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Remind functionality?
Hi, * Taru Karttunen [2009-01-26 10:31:50 +0200]: How about having a cron job that creates a ~/.org-remind-me file from agenda every 15 minutes? And just cat that in the .bash_profile? I ended up doing this, as it works quickly and is a minimum of work. Cron is such a great tool... Thanks Taru and Carten for the tip! nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Using SCHEDULED to indicate task start date
Dear org-mode users and developers, [Using 6.17 here.] SCHEDULED nicely hides TODOs from agenda views until on/after the SCHEDULED date. I'd like to hide TODOs whose SCHEDULED date is in the future from the global todo list (C-c a t) . 'Org Agenda Todo Ignore Scheduled' option hides all scheduled TODOs, including those whose scheduled date is in the past, so won't work for me. In other words, I'd like to use SCHEDULED function as a kind of 'start date' for a TODO, before which it won't appear on agenda or global todo lists. Is this possible? Many thanks Nick -- Nick Bell m...@nickbell.org ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Remind functionality?
On 25.01 18:32, Nicholas S-A wrote: > So, the way I currently use remind is run it as "remind ~/.remind" in my > .bash_profile. It reminds me of deadlines and events at any login shell, > so that I don't forget about them (and also so they are fast to access). > This works well, as it is quick to load and doesn't contribute > significantly to the login time at e.g. a Terminal window or SSH > connection. The problem comes because I now use org-mode agenda to > schedule everything, so I have to enter upcoming events twice -- once in > my agenda files, and once in ~/.remind. As such, I thought I could > improve my workflow by just printing the emacs agenda instead of running > remind -- but this is slow. I also tried with emacsclient, but that > didn't improve it any. How about having a cron job that creates a ~/.org-remind-me file from agenda every 15 minutes? And just cat that in the .bash_profile? - Taru Karttunen ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] graphing from org-tables
On Jan 23, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Jan 23, 2009, at 2:37 AM, Eric Schulte wrote: Dan Davison writes: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:00:14PM -0500, Eric Schulte wrote: Hi Dan, <...> 2) Also interesting is the idea of referencing a table from a block of R code elsewhere in the org file. I've worked some on processing blocks of R code in org files in a manner similar to Sweave. http://github.com/eschulte/org-contrib/tree/master/org-exp-blocks.el If we could implement a simple means of referencing tables (either whole tables, or cells/cols/rows of tables) from these R-code blocks then that seems like it may be fairly powerful. I agree with this. So in the case of my code, I think we would like to be able to do something like #+TBLR: data: columns:(1 2) action:tabulate This would make the output of the analysis/plot of the table pointed to by appear at the location in the file of the #+TBLR line. Perhaps one design aim would be to have the same mechanism work for referencing tables for processing by #TBLFM, org-plot, org-table-R, org-exp-blocks, etc. That sounds like a very good idea. A uniform interface for referencing table ranges (either globally from outside of the table or locally from within the table) that could be used for any table formula be it in calc, R, elisp, etc... I find the idea of easily accessing and writing table data from external tools very intriguing For what it is worth, here is a function that will grab a field value or a range from a remote table, be it in the current file or in a different file. That is not yet a syntax to have such a reference in a formula, but it is the most important component, and maybe it will already be useful for you. This function uses an entry ID to access the table - obviously other schemes like table naming could be used. It is not going to be very fast, and multiple accesses to the same remote table would each cause the same overhead, but it sure is working. - Carsten (defun org-table-remote-range (id form &optional replace keep-empty numbers lispp) "Get a field value or a list of values in a range from table at ID. In 6.19, there is now built-in unction to access data from arbitrary tables. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Problem with org-batch-agenda
Carsten,
Thanks. The quoting was the problem. I changed the line from what
I had below to:
c:\emacs-22.3\bin\emacs.exe -batch -l ~/_emacs_org -eval \
"(org-batch-agenda \"S\")"
and it now works like I expect.
Perhaps there should be somewhere to deal with some of these platform
specific issues so we don't run into them multiple times...
Mark
* Carsten Dominik wrote (on 1/24/2009 7:58 AM):
On Jan 23, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Mark Elston wrote:
I am trying to export information from my org files and am
getting an error every time I run the batch file (Windows XP)
I am starting with a stripped down .emacs file which just sets up
my load path then does the following:
;
;;ORG MODE
(require 'org-install)
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.org$" . org-mode))
(setq org-log-done 'time)
(setq org-agenda-include-diary t)
(setq org-directory "~/org/")
(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
'(("S" "Schedule for the week plus TODO's"
((agenda "")
(todo "TODO")
My batch file looks like this:
c:\emacs-22.3\bin\emacs.exe -batch -l ~/_emacs_org -eval
'(org-batch-agenda "S")'
This works for me, but it is possible that quoting in a windows
batch file works differently?
The error message looks to me as if there is a parsing error for the
-eval form.
- Carsten
When I run this from the command line I get:
Loading c:/Home/emacs-22/precompile.el (source)...
Loading c:/Home/emacs-22/all_org.el (source)...
Loading c:/Home/emacs-22/melston-note-paths.el (source)...
Done loading ~/emacs/all_org
Loading c:/Home/emacs-22/custom.el (source)...
Loading gnus...
Done loading init file
End of file during parsing
I saw this mentioned in the list at gmane but never saw
any resolution for it. Any ideas?
Mark
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[Orgmode] Re: Latex export, unnumbered sections
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > I'm running into some kind of problem with my "export as latex and > process as pdf" setup. I would like to have all my headings numbered > but a few ones. Sadly, I don't know about any mean to specify > individually what header should be exported as starred or not. > > I still can export to latex, edit it and then process it as pdf, but, > being the lazy type, I'd rather have it done "automagically". > > So, am I missing an obvious option ? Has someone already solved that ? > > Thanks for any insight. Can you give a short example of what it is you are trying to accomplish? In the export options the H: value states how many heading levels to export ,[ top of one of my exported org files ] | #+OPTIONS: H:2 num:t toc:2 \n:nil todo:t @:t ::t |:t ^:nil -:t f:t *:t TeX:t LaTeX:nil skip:t d:nil tags:t ` You can't specify individually which headlines should and shouldn't be exported as numbered headlines as far as I know. -Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Remind functionality?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 05:36:55AM +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On Jan 26, 2009, at 12:32 AM, Nicholas S-A wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> * Carsten Dominik [2009-01-25 22:17:16 >> +0100]: >> >>> It is unlikely that this can be make faster in a significant way. >>> Why is it a problem Even if it takes 10 seconds? >>> Ah, I see, you do this in every new shell?? This sounds >>> unnecessary, to say the least. >>> Maybe you have to explain better what exactly your are doing >> >> So, the way I currently use remind is run it as "remind ~/.remind" in >> my >> .bash_profile. It reminds me of deadlines and events at any login >> shell, >> so that I don't forget about them (and also so they are fast to >> access). >> This works well, as it is quick to load and doesn't contribute >> significantly to the login time at e.g. a Terminal window or SSH >> connection. The problem comes because I now use org-mode agenda to >> schedule everything, so I have to enter upcoming events twice -- once >> in >> my agenda files, and once in ~/.remind. As such, I thought I could >> improve my workflow by just printing the emacs agenda instead of >> running >> remind -- but this is slow. I also tried with emacsclient, but that >> didn't improve it any. > > > A work-around would be to use a cronjob to dump the the agenda output > to a file, maybe once a minute or even once every hour, and then to > cat this file into your shells. Just wanted to chip in and say this is a great idea - thanks to Nicholas and Carsten! * goes to implement this himself now * -- Oliver Charles / aCiD2 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Please test 6.19a
On Jan 25, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Christopher Suckling wrote: On 25 Jan 2009, at 16:06, Carsten Dominik wrote: I just uploaded org 6.19a into Emacs CVS, so that it can still be part of the Emacs 23.1 pretest and release. Please test the latest release and let me know as soon as possible if there are any regressions. Two small niggles. 1) :VISIBILITY: property Suppose I have the headings * Foo * Bar * COMMENT setup for buffer :PROPERTIES: :VISIBILITY: folded :END: #+STARTUP: overview #+Rest of options go here On loading the file, *Foo and *Bar are folder, as expected. *COMMENT, however shows its content. Changing value of :VISIBILITY: has no effect. I'm afraid I can't pinpoint in which version this started to happen, but I'm fairly certain it was in the last fortnight. I cannot reproduce this, works fine for me. Anything the the *Messages* buffer that indicates that visiting a new buffer in Org-mode crashes half-way, i.e. before the ful setup has finished? 2) LaTeX export, tables and timestamps ** Foo ** Bar |Foo|[2009-02-25 Sun]|Bar| If I select a region from ** Bar to Bar|, and then org-export-latex- to-buffer, then the timestamp is omitted. If I select a region from ** Foo to Bar| and then org-export-latex-to-buffer, then the timestamp is included. Yes, this is a bug, thank you very much for the report. This made me realize that it is probably a mistake to remove time stamps from tables, even if `org-export-with-timestamps' is nil. So from now on, time stamps in tables will not be removed. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Latex export, unnumbered sections
I'm a new org user, but I've read the LaTeX export stuff pretty carefully,
and In don't think there is any native org-mode syntax that would allows
control over the numbering of an individual line. However, if you know what
level these unnumbered headings will be exported at, you may be able to just
to a Latex pass-through command:
\subsubsection{my unnumbered heading}
Just tested. It appears to work.
Or you might be able to just figure out how you want the heading to look
(bold, font size, etc) and just pass through the commands to make that work,
just for those lines.
Barring that, I guess the solution is either to edit the LaTeX manually, or
come up with some bit of "unnumbering" syntax and write a LaTeX-adjusting
function that is run on one of the later hooks that are offered by the
export process. I can't find these in org's info documentation just now, but
they were added sometime after v.6.15, if I remember right, and were nicely
documented on the 'user visible changes' page. That would require some
Emacs LISP, but it should be relatively simple
Scot
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm running into some kind of problem with my "export as latex and
> process as pdf" setup. I would like to have all my headings numbered
> but a few ones. Sadly, I don't know about any mean to specify
> individually what header should be exported as starred or not.
>
> I still can export to latex, edit it and then process it as pdf, but,
> being the lazy type, I'd rather have it done "automagically".
>
> So, am I missing an obvious option ? Has someone already solved that ?
>
> Thanks for any insight.
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Re: [Orgmode] Remind functionality?
Hi Nicolas,
how about using a control file like this(untested):
agenda_control_files=~/.emacs.d/agenda_on_login
todays_agenda_file="${agenda_control_files}/$(date -I)
if [ -f "$todays_agenda_file" ]; then
echo "Agenda was shown on a previous login today."
# You could also `cat' the control file here, if you manage it
# somehow, that it contains your agenda's contents (your elisp should
# export the agenda to the controle file then. Also, you should
# adjust the `else' below to use `cat'.
else
rm "$agenda_control_files"/*# rmove yesterdays control file
touch ~/.emacs.d/agenda-check-$(date -I) # or fill with agenda export
// Enter your function here
fi
Regards,
Sebastian
Nicholas S-A writes:
> Hi,
>
> * Carsten Dominik [2009-01-25 22:17:16 +0100]:
>
>> It is unlikely that this can be make faster in a significant way.
>> Why is it a problem Even if it takes 10 seconds?
>> Ah, I see, you do this in every new shell?? This sounds
>> unnecessary, to say the least.
>> Maybe you have to explain better what exactly your are doing
>
> So, the way I currently use remind is run it as "remind ~/.remind" in my
> .bash_profile. It reminds me of deadlines and events at any login shell,
> so that I don't forget about them (and also so they are fast to access).
> This works well, as it is quick to load and doesn't contribute
> significantly to the login time at e.g. a Terminal window or SSH
> connection. The problem comes because I now use org-mode agenda to
> schedule everything, so I have to enter upcoming events twice -- once in
> my agenda files, and once in ~/.remind. As such, I thought I could
> improve my workflow by just printing the emacs agenda instead of running
> remind -- but this is slow. I also tried with emacsclient, but that
> didn't improve it any.
>
>> No, this is not possible. The only handle you have is the variable
>> org-agenda-deadline-leaders, maybe you can do something with this.
>
> Thanks, I will look into it.
>
> Thank you for the prompt reply!
> Nicholas
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-Mode in Windows
Hi David, Thank you for your reply. I downloaded emacs from: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/ and the file I got is emacs-22.3-bin-i386.zip When I did as you said C-x C-f and enter, I get this file list: c:/emacs/bin: total used in directory 14253 available 6281388 drwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root 0 01-25 09:31 . drwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root 0 01-25 19:49 .. -rw-rw-rw- 1 Bailey root 35147 09-07 01:27 COPYING -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root208024 09-07 01:27 addpm.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root213712 09-07 01:27 cmdproxy.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root415691 09-07 01:26 ctags.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root201154 09-07 01:27 ddeclient.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root 23196 09-07 01:26 digest-doc.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root303837 09-07 01:26 ebrowse.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root 10584469 09-07 01:26 emacs.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root470906 09-07 01:26 emacsclient.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root494988 09-07 01:26 emacsclientw.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root411930 09-07 01:26 etags.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root 30055 09-07 01:26 hexl.exe -rw-rw-rw- 1 Bailey root502117 08-10 23:22 libXpm.dll -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root444386 09-07 01:26 movemail.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root224236 09-07 01:27 runemacs.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 Bailey root 31209 09-07 01:26 sorted-doc.exe No .emacs... I also attach the file list of the whole emacs subdirectory (I downloaded it again just to be sure). Is the .emacs file a file with name ".emacs" with no extension? or is emacs the extension with no filename? Can I create my own emacs? I did and put it in c:/emacs and c:/emacs/bin but seems like no effect... i.e. When org file opened, its not in org-mode. Where can I download the .emacs file? Thank you, Bailey David Lord wrote: Bailey, I think the first thing you need to do is find your .emacs: start emacs and type Ctrl-x Ctrl-f, make sure it says something like 'Find file: ~/' at the bottom of the screen and press enter. A 'dired' buffer should open up in which you should see your .emacs file (if you want to put it in a different directory, you can set the HOME environment variable). Next, you need to open the file and follow the instructions in http://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html#Installation to set the load-path to the new version of org-mode and require org-install (don't worry about the make commands: you will need to install cygwin or something like it to get that working). You may need to get rid of the old version of org-mode before it will pick up the new one. If so, you can open the old file by typing Alt-x find-library, press enter, type 'org' and press enter again. Then type Ctrl-x Ctrl-f and press enter to find its location. Delete the file (after backing it up somewhere of course) and restart emacs. Regards David Lord On Jan 25, 2009, at 3:48 AM, Manager Leader wrote: Dear Mr. Dominik, Thank you for your work in Org-Mode, I started researching about it a month ago and I have started using it 10 days ago (used to work in outlook but it just can't cope with my life now). And so far am happy with it except for some things that's not working as expected. I am using Windows XP and have downloaded the latest release version for emacs (22.3.1) and org-mode (6.18c). But when I type M-x org-version 5.23a. * Org-Mode does not start by itself when emacs is started - I always have to type "ALT-X org-mode" (in your book convention: M-x) or put on each file "MY PROJECTS-*- mode: org; -*-" * Agenda view does not come out with the shortcut C-c a - I always have to use the mouse and org->agenda command -> t * I want my default org file to open when I start emacs or org-mode but don't know how to do this. I always have to browse to the correct directory and open the file. * Other things but I think should be resolved if those above can work. I consider myself competent with computers and normally can easily make things work with reading documentation and searching through newsgroups, web. But this is taking a bit too long. Some info and Things I have done to try to resolve it: * I placed emacs in directory c:/emacs, downloaded 6.18c orgmode file to c:/emacs/org * I am logged in with admin rights on Windows * I have added the path to emacs in environment variables. C:/emacs/bin * I have watched your video at google 3 times, gone through the manual particularly installation and activation parts, searched the newsgroups and google searched whatever I can... * I can't find any file named emacs or *.emacs so I created ".emacs" file and placed it in c:/emacs - I attach my emacs file. * Make command from the installation manual does not work (even inside emacs Tools-> Make) - I attach my makefile which I have edited based on the installation manual. But, I still
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-Mode in Windows
Hi Manish,
I tried putting in the configuration from John Wigley on the link you gave:
http://www.newartisans.com/blog/2007/08/using-org-mode-as-a-day-planner.html
and then use M-x load-file...
Unfortunately, I got the following messages:
Loading c:/emacs/.emacs...
eval-buffer: Cannot open load file: remember
Seems like my copy of emacs have a lot of missing things. I did a file
search and there's no remember... and also no diff
Do you think emacs 22.3.1 version that I downloaded is the problem?
Regards,
Bailey
Manager Leader wrote:
Hi Manish,
Thanks for the tip on loading the .emacs using M-x load-file (ENTER),
after that I type "c:/emacs/.emacs" and the agenda command worked.
With regards to the environmental settings - we're doing it the same
place - see attached screenshot.
With regards to my .emacs, its very empty - I attached it as well... I
just created the .emacs file myself. Is there supposed to be something
inside .emacs by default?
How do you think I should make the .emacs load by itself?
Thanks,
Bailey
Manish wrote:
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Manager Leader wrote:
Hi Manish,
Thank you for your reply.
I tried what you said:
(add-to-list 'load-path "C:/path/to/org-mode/lisp")
(require 'org-install)
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.org$" . org-mode))
(global-set-key "\C-ca" 'org-agenda)
But I had to create a .emacs file (.emacs filename and no extension
- not
sure if this is right). I placed 2 copies - 1 where runemacs.exe is
located
(c:/emacs/bin) and another in c:/emacs - but it seems like there's
no effect
on the behaviour of org-mode... So I think there's a problem with
reading
the .emacs..
I have already set the path: C:\emacs\bin\ and Added environmental
variables
HOME = c:\emacs\
How are you setting up the environment variable? I set it up a user
variable under:
1. Windows Explorer
2. My Computer
3. (right click)
4. Properties
5. Advanced Tab
6. Environment Variables
Do restart Emacs for this to take effect.
You can load .emacs using "M-x laod-file " and navigating to the
file as well while you resolve the issue.
HTH
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-Mode in Windows
Hi Manish,
Thank you for your reply.
I tried what you said:
(add-to-list 'load-path "C:/path/to/org-mode/lisp")
(require 'org-install)
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.org$" . org-mode))
(global-set-key "\C-ca" 'org-agenda)
But I had to create a .emacs file (.emacs filename and no extension -
not sure if this is right). I placed 2 copies - 1 where runemacs.exe is
located (c:/emacs/bin) and another in c:/emacs - but it seems like
there's no effect on the behaviour of org-mode... So I think there's a
problem with reading the .emacs..
I have already set the path: C:\emacs\bin\ and Added environmental
variables HOME = c:\emacs\
I have a feeling I'm doing something simple wrong...
Thanks,
Bailey
Manish wrote:
On Jan 25, 2009, at 3:48 AM, Manager Leader wrote:
Dear Mr. Dominik,
Thank you for your work in Org-Mode, I started researching about it a
month ago and I have started using it 10 days ago (used to work in outlook
but it just can't cope with my life now). And so far am happy with it except
for some things that's not working as expected.
I am using Windows XP and have downloaded the latest release version for
emacs (22.3.1) and org-mode (6.18c). But when I type M-x org-version 5.23a.
Adding this will cause the new Org to come before system supplied Org.
Of course, update the path for your machine.
--8<---cut here---start->8---
(add-to-list 'load-path "C:/path/to/org-mode/lisp")
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
Please ensure you have "(require 'org-install)" and not "(require 'org)'
in your .emacs.
* Org-Mode does not start by itself when emacs is started - I always have
to type "ALT-X org-mode" (in your book convention: M-x) or put on each file
"MY PROJECTS -*- mode: org; -*-"
This should make all .org files open in Org mode.
--8<---cut here---start->8---
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.org$" . org-mode))
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
* Agenda view does not come out with the shortcut C-c a - I always
have to use the mouse and org->agenda command -> t *
Following should help bring agenda options with C-c a.
--8<---cut here---start->8---
(global-set-key "\C-ca" 'org-agenda)
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
I want my default org file to open when I start emacs or org-mode but
don't know how to do this. I always have to browse to the correct
directory and open the file. * Other things but I think should be
resolved if those above can work.
Once you use the agenda command it will open required org files
automatically. You may also want to take a look at
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DeskTop
I consider myself competent with computers and normally can easily make
things work with reading documentation and searching through newsgroups,
web. But this is taking a bit too long.
Some info and Things I have done to try to resolve it:
* I placed emacs in directory c:/emacs, downloaded 6.18c orgmode file to
c:/emacs/org
* I am logged in with admin rights on Windows
Admin rights should not be necessary to use Emacs and Org mode.
* I have added the path to emacs in environment
variables. C:/emacs/bin * I have watched your video at google 3
times, gone through the manual particularly installation and
activation parts, searched the newsgroups and google searched
whatever I can...
Following article by John Weigley is what eased the eay for me.
http://www.newartisans.com/blog/2007/08/using-org-mode-as-a-day-planner.html
* I can't find any file named emacs or *.emacs so I created ".emacs"
file and placed it in c:/emacs - I attach my emacs file.
I am afraid I did not find your .emacs file but the link cited above
will help you get started with one. I prefer to define an environment
variable "HOME" and keep my stuff under that. Emacs will also read
.emacs from the location if it can find the file there.
* Make command from the installation manual does not work (even
inside emacs
Tools-> Make) - I attach my makefile which I have edited based on the
installation manual.
I would suggest skipping the make part for now. Everything should still
function without compiling. What you do not get is the info and HTML
documentation (that you can access online.)
HTH
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Re: [Orgmode] Remind functionality?
On Jan 26, 2009, at 12:32 AM, Nicholas S-A wrote: Hi, * Carsten Dominik [2009-01-25 22:17:16 +0100]: It is unlikely that this can be make faster in a significant way. Why is it a problem Even if it takes 10 seconds? Ah, I see, you do this in every new shell?? This sounds unnecessary, to say the least. Maybe you have to explain better what exactly your are doing So, the way I currently use remind is run it as "remind ~/.remind" in my .bash_profile. It reminds me of deadlines and events at any login shell, so that I don't forget about them (and also so they are fast to access). This works well, as it is quick to load and doesn't contribute significantly to the login time at e.g. a Terminal window or SSH connection. The problem comes because I now use org-mode agenda to schedule everything, so I have to enter upcoming events twice -- once in my agenda files, and once in ~/.remind. As such, I thought I could improve my workflow by just printing the emacs agenda instead of running remind -- but this is slow. I also tried with emacsclient, but that didn't improve it any. A work-around would be to use a cronjob to dump the the agenda output to a file, maybe once a minute or even once every hour, and then to cat this file into your shells. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
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