[Orgmode] Re: Export Org files to TWiki format

[Baoqiu Cui]

Russell Adams  writes:

> Foswiki forked TWiki after they started going commercial. The whole
> sordid tale is online, but all the core devs went to FOSWiki. Last I
> checked TWiki was just treading water.
>
> I'm converting. ;]

If it is true that most of the TWiki contributors are moving to Foswiki,
then it is a good move to convert.

No matter what, Foswiki and TWiki should try to be 100% compatible.

Baoqiu


> On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 09:29:37PM -0700, Baoqiu Cui wrote:
>> Hi Russell,
>> 
>> Russell Adams  writes:
>> 
>> > You mean FOSWiki, right? ;]
>> 
>> This is surprising news to me!  I was not aware of the existence of
>> Foswiki!  Thanks for the info!  Foswiki looks very nice.
>> 
>> Hope that Foswiki syntax is compatible with TWiki.
>> 
>> Baoqiu
>> 
>> 
>> > On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 09:05:05PM -0700, Baoqiu Cui wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >> 
>> >> Recently I wrote an XSL stylesheet that converts DocBook documents to
>> >> TWiki (http://www.twiki.org/) format, and it can be used to convert Org
>> >> files to TWiki format using DocBook exporter as a bridge.  I have used
>> >> it to generate some of my recent TWiki documents at work from Org mode
>> >> files, and it worked pretty well.  Now Org-mode can be used as a TWiki
>> >> editor.
>> >> 
>> >> If you are interested, you can get the stylesheet from
>> >> 
>> >>http://docbook2twiki.googlecode.com
>> >> 
>> >> The following Elisp function can be used to export Org file to TWiki
>> >> using this stylesheet (the only external tool that you need is
>> >> ``xsltproc''):
>> >> 
>> >> (defun org-export-as-twiki ()
>> >>   "Export Org file to TWiki."
>> >>   (interactive)
>> >>   (message "Exporting to TWiki...")
>> >>   (let* ((wconfig (current-window-configuration))
>> >>(docbook-buf (org-export-as-docbook))
>> >>(filename (buffer-file-name docbook-buf))
>> >>(base (file-name-sans-extension filename))
>> >>(twiki-file (concat base ".twiki")))
>> >> (and (file-exists-p twiki-file) (delete-file twiki-file))
>> >> (message "Processing DocBook XML file...")
>> >> (shell-command
>> >>  (format "xsltproc --output %s 
>> >> /Users/bcui/docbook2twiki/docbook2twiki.xsl %s"
>> >>twiki-file (shell-quote-argument filename)))
>> >> (message "Processing DocBook file...done")
>> >> (if (not (file-exists-p twiki-file))
>> >>   (error "TWiki file was not produced")
>> >>   (set-window-configuration wconfig)
>> >>   (message "Exporting to TWiki...done")
>> >>   twiki-file)))
>> >> 
>> >> Originally I started with writing Org-to-TWiki exporter in Elisp, but
>> >> realized that I had to duplicate a lot of code from the DocBook exporter
>> >> after 99% of the work was done.  Writing the stylesheet is little harder
>> >> for me, but it proves that DocBook exporter can be helpful in some
>> >> case. ;-)
>> >> 
>> >> Please let me know if you have any comments.
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Baoqiu
>> >> 
>> >> 
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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Carsten Dominik]

On May 7, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:


Jan Buchal  writes:

   CD> On May 7, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Jan Buchal wrote:


"CD" == Carsten Dominik  writes:



   CD> On May 7, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jan Buchal wrote:



Hello again,


the problem is little bit complicate :-) I need  not in first
row only but by every column which contain the name of row. In
the attachment you can find the example


  CD> That is currently not possible.
And is it possible fix it? From the point of view of accessibility  
is a

bug.


   CD> I would not call it a bug, it is a limitation. Org is not a  
full
   CD> HTML table editor, there are many things it cannot do,  
including

   CD> column and row spanning, multiline fields, you name it.
Unfortunately it is a bug. See please WCAG documentation.



It's not. It's just something not implemented. And, as I see it, it
would be complicated to implement.


What you want seems to be this:

 1. It's recommended to put the column headers into the   
element
(Org-mode does this). That way column headers are re-printed on  
every

page, if a table exceeds the size of one printed page.

 2. It's recommended to use  elements in tables like this:

 | Country | Number of citizens  |
 |-+|
 | Germany | 84 Mio.|
 | France  | XXX Mio.   |

 In this case it could make sense to put the country names in 
 tags (see 4.). I think this is, what you wanted.


 3. Use the caption element to describe the purpose of a
table. Org-mode does this.


 4. The `scope' attribut describes, wich table cells are concerned by
the  element.

Again, our country example. This table should be handled corretly
by a screen reader:


 Citizens per country
 
  
Country 
Number of citizens 
  


 
   Germany 
   84 Mio. 
 
 
   France 
   XXX Mio. 
 
 ...


There are more possible values for `scope' (`colgroup' and `rowgroup')
as well, as some additional possibilities to assign headers to cells
(`header' and `id') in such a way, that multiple headers describe one
cell.

In our example, the headers `Germany' and `Number of citizens' would
describe the cell `84 Mio.'.



I don't see, how Org-mode could decide which headers describe wich
cells.

The most obvious thing to do would be, to


   a) mark cells as table-headers (this is the only needed new
  Org-syntax feature),
   b) if in the first table row, add a  scope="col" to the  tag,
   c) if in the first column, add a   scope="row"  to  the  tag.



OK, this is ho it works now

Thanks

- Carsten





Beacuse if we take all those possible assignments into account, we'll
get something complicated to code, use and document...
We would have to end with some kind of `formular' syntax, like the one
used for the spreadsheet capabilities.


Regards

  Sebastian




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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Export Org files to TWiki format

[Russell Adams]

Foswiki forked TWiki after they started going commercial. The whole
sordid tale is online, but all the core devs went to FOSWiki. Last I
checked TWiki was just treading water.

I'm converting. ;]

On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 09:29:37PM -0700, Baoqiu Cui wrote:
> Hi Russell,
> 
> Russell Adams  writes:
> 
> > You mean FOSWiki, right? ;]
> 
> This is surprising news to me!  I was not aware of the existence of
> Foswiki!  Thanks for the info!  Foswiki looks very nice.
> 
> Hope that Foswiki syntax is compatible with TWiki.
> 
> Baoqiu
> 
> 
> > On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 09:05:05PM -0700, Baoqiu Cui wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> Recently I wrote an XSL stylesheet that converts DocBook documents to
> >> TWiki (http://www.twiki.org/) format, and it can be used to convert Org
> >> files to TWiki format using DocBook exporter as a bridge.  I have used
> >> it to generate some of my recent TWiki documents at work from Org mode
> >> files, and it worked pretty well.  Now Org-mode can be used as a TWiki
> >> editor.
> >> 
> >> If you are interested, you can get the stylesheet from
> >> 
> >>http://docbook2twiki.googlecode.com
> >> 
> >> The following Elisp function can be used to export Org file to TWiki
> >> using this stylesheet (the only external tool that you need is
> >> ``xsltproc''):
> >> 
> >> (defun org-export-as-twiki ()
> >>   "Export Org file to TWiki."
> >>   (interactive)
> >>   (message "Exporting to TWiki...")
> >>   (let* ((wconfig (current-window-configuration))
> >> (docbook-buf (org-export-as-docbook))
> >> (filename (buffer-file-name docbook-buf))
> >> (base (file-name-sans-extension filename))
> >> (twiki-file (concat base ".twiki")))
> >> (and (file-exists-p twiki-file) (delete-file twiki-file))
> >> (message "Processing DocBook XML file...")
> >> (shell-command
> >>  (format "xsltproc --output %s 
> >> /Users/bcui/docbook2twiki/docbook2twiki.xsl %s"
> >> twiki-file (shell-quote-argument filename)))
> >> (message "Processing DocBook file...done")
> >> (if (not (file-exists-p twiki-file))
> >>(error "TWiki file was not produced")
> >>   (set-window-configuration wconfig)
> >>   (message "Exporting to TWiki...done")
> >>   twiki-file)))
> >> 
> >> Originally I started with writing Org-to-TWiki exporter in Elisp, but
> >> realized that I had to duplicate a lot of code from the DocBook exporter
> >> after 99% of the work was done.  Writing the stylesheet is little harder
> >> for me, but it proves that DocBook exporter can be helpful in some
> >> case. ;-)
> >> 
> >> Please let me know if you have any comments.
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> Baoqiu
> >> 
> >> 
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[Orgmode] Re: Export Org files to TWiki format

[Baoqiu Cui]

Hi Russell,

Russell Adams  writes:

> You mean FOSWiki, right? ;]

This is surprising news to me!  I was not aware of the existence of
Foswiki!  Thanks for the info!  Foswiki looks very nice.

Hope that Foswiki syntax is compatible with TWiki.

Baoqiu


> On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 09:05:05PM -0700, Baoqiu Cui wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Recently I wrote an XSL stylesheet that converts DocBook documents to
>> TWiki (http://www.twiki.org/) format, and it can be used to convert Org
>> files to TWiki format using DocBook exporter as a bridge.  I have used
>> it to generate some of my recent TWiki documents at work from Org mode
>> files, and it worked pretty well.  Now Org-mode can be used as a TWiki
>> editor.
>> 
>> If you are interested, you can get the stylesheet from
>> 
>>http://docbook2twiki.googlecode.com
>> 
>> The following Elisp function can be used to export Org file to TWiki
>> using this stylesheet (the only external tool that you need is
>> ``xsltproc''):
>> 
>> (defun org-export-as-twiki ()
>>   "Export Org file to TWiki."
>>   (interactive)
>>   (message "Exporting to TWiki...")
>>   (let* ((wconfig (current-window-configuration))
>>   (docbook-buf (org-export-as-docbook))
>>   (filename (buffer-file-name docbook-buf))
>>   (base (file-name-sans-extension filename))
>>   (twiki-file (concat base ".twiki")))
>> (and (file-exists-p twiki-file) (delete-file twiki-file))
>> (message "Processing DocBook XML file...")
>> (shell-command
>>  (format "xsltproc --output %s 
>> /Users/bcui/docbook2twiki/docbook2twiki.xsl %s"
>>   twiki-file (shell-quote-argument filename)))
>> (message "Processing DocBook file...done")
>> (if (not (file-exists-p twiki-file))
>>  (error "TWiki file was not produced")
>>   (set-window-configuration wconfig)
>>   (message "Exporting to TWiki...done")
>>   twiki-file)))
>> 
>> Originally I started with writing Org-to-TWiki exporter in Elisp, but
>> realized that I had to duplicate a lot of code from the DocBook exporter
>> after 99% of the work was done.  Writing the stylesheet is little harder
>> for me, but it proves that DocBook exporter can be helpful in some
>> case. ;-)
>> 
>> Please let me know if you have any comments.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Baoqiu
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: reloading causes visibility bug requiring restart

[Carsten Dominik]

On May 7, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Peter Westlake wrote:



On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:33:34 -0400, "Bernt Hansen" 
said:

Do you have org-cycle-include-plain-lists set?  If you turn that off
does it work as expected?


I have this same bug, and turning off org-cycle-include-plain-lists
does fix it! I thought I had tried everything, but must have missed
this post.

For completeness, here's what I had been about to post:

 The message line says FOLDED, CHILDREN, SUBTREE as it should, but
 the entire top level headline is folded and unfolded as one, with
 text showing even for CHILDREN. Plain lists still work. All
 sub-headlines are treated as text. A list inside a sub-headline
 appears as though the entries were top-level headlines. Motion
 commands still move subtrees correctly. This is Org 6.26trans, as of
 2009-04-30, and the latest emacs-snapshot, 1:20090423. It wasn't
 caused by me trying org-inlinetask, because it happens even without
 that. Outline mode still works properly. Drawers work properly too.


I anyone could make an example that allos me to reproduce this problem,
then I might be able to fix it.



 A completely fresh checkout of org-mode has the same problem.

Thanks for the workaround!

Peter.


-Bernt

Samuel Wales  writes:

I can't do the typing to formally document this, so I will just  
ask if

others experience it.  If not, it will take a while.

Repeatably, with the latest git, emacs 22 cocoa, reloading org  
causes
folding/visibility/cycling problems that are not fixable by  
reverting.

Only restarting emacs fixes it.

The problems are weird enough that it should be obvious if you try  
it.

Seemingly random plain list items being the only visible part, etc.
There is no cycling state in which all is shown, either from bob or
from headline.

Thanks.




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Re: [Orgmode] Export Org files to TWiki format

[Russell Adams]

You mean FOSWiki, right? ;]

On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 09:05:05PM -0700, Baoqiu Cui wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Recently I wrote an XSL stylesheet that converts DocBook documents to
> TWiki (http://www.twiki.org/) format, and it can be used to convert Org
> files to TWiki format using DocBook exporter as a bridge.  I have used
> it to generate some of my recent TWiki documents at work from Org mode
> files, and it worked pretty well.  Now Org-mode can be used as a TWiki
> editor.
> 
> If you are interested, you can get the stylesheet from
> 
>http://docbook2twiki.googlecode.com
> 
> The following Elisp function can be used to export Org file to TWiki
> using this stylesheet (the only external tool that you need is
> ``xsltproc''):
> 
> (defun org-export-as-twiki ()
>   "Export Org file to TWiki."
>   (interactive)
>   (message "Exporting to TWiki...")
>   (let* ((wconfig (current-window-configuration))
>(docbook-buf (org-export-as-docbook))
>(filename (buffer-file-name docbook-buf))
>(base (file-name-sans-extension filename))
>(twiki-file (concat base ".twiki")))
> (and (file-exists-p twiki-file) (delete-file twiki-file))
> (message "Processing DocBook XML file...")
> (shell-command
>  (format "xsltproc --output %s 
> /Users/bcui/docbook2twiki/docbook2twiki.xsl %s"
>twiki-file (shell-quote-argument filename)))
> (message "Processing DocBook file...done")
> (if (not (file-exists-p twiki-file))
>   (error "TWiki file was not produced")
>   (set-window-configuration wconfig)
>   (message "Exporting to TWiki...done")
>   twiki-file)))
> 
> Originally I started with writing Org-to-TWiki exporter in Elisp, but
> realized that I had to duplicate a lot of code from the DocBook exporter
> after 99% of the work was done.  Writing the stylesheet is little harder
> for me, but it proves that DocBook exporter can be helpful in some
> case. ;-)
> 
> Please let me know if you have any comments.
> 
> Thanks,
> Baoqiu
> 
> 
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[Orgmode] Export Org files to TWiki format

[Baoqiu Cui]

Hi,

Recently I wrote an XSL stylesheet that converts DocBook documents to
TWiki (http://www.twiki.org/) format, and it can be used to convert Org
files to TWiki format using DocBook exporter as a bridge.  I have used
it to generate some of my recent TWiki documents at work from Org mode
files, and it worked pretty well.  Now Org-mode can be used as a TWiki
editor.

If you are interested, you can get the stylesheet from

   http://docbook2twiki.googlecode.com

The following Elisp function can be used to export Org file to TWiki
using this stylesheet (the only external tool that you need is
``xsltproc''):

(defun org-export-as-twiki ()
  "Export Org file to TWiki."
  (interactive)
  (message "Exporting to TWiki...")
  (let* ((wconfig (current-window-configuration))
 (docbook-buf (org-export-as-docbook))
 (filename (buffer-file-name docbook-buf))
 (base (file-name-sans-extension filename))
 (twiki-file (concat base ".twiki")))
(and (file-exists-p twiki-file) (delete-file twiki-file))
(message "Processing DocBook XML file...")
(shell-command
 (format "xsltproc --output %s /Users/bcui/docbook2twiki/docbook2twiki.xsl 
%s"
 twiki-file (shell-quote-argument filename)))
(message "Processing DocBook file...done")
(if (not (file-exists-p twiki-file))
(error "TWiki file was not produced")
  (set-window-configuration wconfig)
  (message "Exporting to TWiki...done")
  twiki-file)))

Originally I started with writing Org-to-TWiki exporter in Elisp, but
realized that I had to duplicate a lot of code from the DocBook exporter
after 99% of the work was done.  Writing the stylesheet is little harder
for me, but it proves that DocBook exporter can be helpful in some
case. ;-)

Please let me know if you have any comments.

Thanks,
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[Orgmode] Re: Organize Your Life In Plain Text!

[Bernt Hansen]

Memnon Anon  writes:

> Okay, here is another question for all the clocking junkies out there ;).
>
> Is there a way to clock two items at the same time?
> This may sound stupid, 'who can do two things at the same time?' 
> but please let me explain.
>
> Whoever clocks items, wants to keep control of what he/she does. 
>
> If e.g. someone loves to listen to audio books and does this in several 
> different contexts: Driving a car, at home etc. One could solve this by tags,
> e.g 
>
> * Listening to audiobook
> ** ONGOING Listening to audiobook   :car:
> ** ONGOING Listening to audiobook   :home:
> ...
>
> and clock whatever may be right in each case. 
>
> But, I guess, it would be easier/more flexible to clock items and locations
> seperately. I can have several items STARTED and SCHEDULED at the same
> time, but can I clock them at the same time?
>
> I am quite new to this 'clock your life' idea, so sorry if I am over
> enthusiastic ;).

Only one task can be clocked at a time using the standard org-mode
clocking functions.  If you clock in a task any existing clocked task is
closed first.

ie. clock taskA, switch to taskB, clock in taskB (stops the clock for
taskA)

In your example above the clock times for the subtasks are totalled to
give the total time for the parent task when you do C-c C-x C-d or
generate a clock report.

HTH,
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[Orgmode] Re: Organize Your Life In Plain Text!

[Memnon Anon]

Hey list, 

Okay, here is another question for all the clocking junkies out there ;).

Is there a way to clock two items at the same time?
This may sound stupid, 'who can do two things at the same time?' 
but please let me explain.

Whoever clocks items, wants to keep control of what he/she does. 

If e.g. someone loves to listen to audio books and does this in several 
different contexts: Driving a car, at home etc. One could solve this by tags,
e.g 

* Listening to audiobook
** ONGOING Listening to audiobook   :car:
** ONGOING Listening to audiobook   :home:
...

and clock whatever may be right in each case. 

But, I guess, it would be easier/more flexible to clock items and locations
seperately. I can have several items STARTED and SCHEDULED at the same
time, but can I clock them at the same time?

I am quite new to this 'clock your life' idea, so sorry if I am over
enthusiastic ;).



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Re: [Orgmode] Organize Your Life In Plain Text!

[Eric Schulte]

Good idea, I will certainly follow this repository.

I have a snippet suggestion.

File completion for [[file:... links.  I don't know if it's possible,
but I would find it very helpful

Cheers -- Eric

Rick Moynihan  writes:

> Cool... I've created a project on github for org-mode specific yasnippets:
>
> http://github.com/RickMoynihan/yasnippet-org-mode/tree/master
>
> I've implemented most of the easy org-mode #+ blocks, though it is by
> no means complete.  I also suspect there might be more we can do to
> leverage yasnippet...  For example It'd be *really* nice to offer
> completion on command line arguments to ditta... Ideally this could be
> done through some embedded elisp that ran a ditta command to dump its
> command line arguments into the snippet... I don't know how much of
> this is possible.
>
> I'd like to focus here on snippets which make sense for everyone, so
> snippets for personal project outlines etc... are probably best left
> out in favour of standard org-mode constructs.
>
> I've not had chance to test these snippets out yet, so I don't know if
> they're bound to logical names.  If you or the org-mode community come
> up with any more snippets or suggestions, I'll be happy to merge them
> into this project.
>
> Anyone wishing to add snippets can either fork the project on github
> and issue a pull request, or simply email the snippet to me with the
> suggested trigger text.
>
> R.
>
> 2009/5/7 Jonathan Arkell :
>> Here are a few of my snippets:
>>
>> #name : Properties Folded
>> #contributor : Jonathan Arkell 
>> # --
>>  :PROPERTIES:
>>  :VISIBILITY:folded:
>>  :END:
>>
>>
>>
>> #name : Meeting
>> #contributor : Jonathan Arkell 
>> # --
>>  Attendees
>>     - $1
>>  General Notes
>>     - $2
>>  Generated Tasks
>>  Open Questions
>>
>>
>>
>> #name : Project Page
>> #contributor : Jonathan Arkell 
>> # --
>> #+FILETAGS: :project:
>> * $1                                                 :project:$2
>> ** Status                                              :$3:
>> ** Milestones
>> ** Jira#
>> ** People
>> ** Links
>> *** Files
>> *** Client Work
>> *** URLs
>> ** Tasks
>> ** Meetings
>> ** Notes
>>
>>
>>
>> #name : Source Code Block
>> #contributor : Jonathan Arkell 
>> # --
>> #+BEGIN_SRC $1$>
>> $0$>
>> #+END_SRC$>
>>
>>
>> All my other templates are very specific to my job/role.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+jonathana=criticalmass@gnu.org 
>> [mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+jonathana=criticalmass@gnu.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Bernt Hansen
>> Sent: May 7, 2009 12:44 PM
>> To: Rick Moynihan
>> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Organize Your Life In Plain Text!
>>
>> Rick Moynihan  writes:
>>
>>> 2009/5/7 Bernt Hansen :
>>> Wow, Bernt!  This is awesome!!! :-) I'm sure it'll be food for thought
>>> for most of us!
>>
>> Thanks :)
>>
>>>
>>> So far I've only skimmed it, but want to take a more indepth look at
>>> porting some of your ideas into my (far more limited) workflow.
>>>
>>> My only comment so far is that the keybindings table might be better
>>> sorted by 'Used' frequency, so it's easier to see at a glance which
>>> keybindings you find most useful.
>>
>> Done.
>>
>>> I finally managed to look at yasnippet myself yesterday, and found it
>>> to be an awesome edition for any emacs user...  Naturally one of the
>>> first things that occured to me was combining it with org-mode.  To
>>> this end, I was wondering whether you have an org-mode snippet bundle
>>> setup.  If so, I'd be curious to know what snippets you've defined.
>>
>> The only snippet I'm using right now that is org-mode related is the
>> block snippet I stole from Eric :).  I've included it in the
>> Productivity Tools section
>> (http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#ProductivityTools) which I'll work
>> on in the future.
>>
>> I'm still pretty new to yasnippet too but I'm not going back to working
>> without it :).
>>
>> -Bernt
>>
>>
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Re: [Orgmode] Organize Your Life In Plain Text!

[Rick Moynihan]

Cool... I've created a project on github for org-mode specific yasnippets:

http://github.com/RickMoynihan/yasnippet-org-mode/tree/master

I've implemented most of the easy org-mode #+ blocks, though it is by
no means complete.  I also suspect there might be more we can do to
leverage yasnippet...  For example It'd be *really* nice to offer
completion on command line arguments to ditta... Ideally this could be
done through some embedded elisp that ran a ditta command to dump its
command line arguments into the snippet... I don't know how much of
this is possible.

I'd like to focus here on snippets which make sense for everyone, so
snippets for personal project outlines etc... are probably best left
out in favour of standard org-mode constructs.

I've not had chance to test these snippets out yet, so I don't know if
they're bound to logical names.  If you or the org-mode community come
up with any more snippets or suggestions, I'll be happy to merge them
into this project.

Anyone wishing to add snippets can either fork the project on github
and issue a pull request, or simply email the snippet to me with the
suggested trigger text.

R.

2009/5/7 Jonathan Arkell :
> Here are a few of my snippets:
>
> #name : Properties Folded
> #contributor : Jonathan Arkell 
> # --
>  :PROPERTIES:
>  :VISIBILITY:folded:
>  :END:
>
>
>
> #name : Meeting
> #contributor : Jonathan Arkell 
> # --
>  Attendees
>     - $1
>  General Notes
>     - $2
>  Generated Tasks
>  Open Questions
>
>
>
> #name : Project Page
> #contributor : Jonathan Arkell 
> # --
> #+FILETAGS: :project:
> * $1                                                 :project:$2
> ** Status                                              :$3:
> ** Milestones
> ** Jira#
> ** People
> ** Links
> *** Files
> *** Client Work
> *** URLs
> ** Tasks
> ** Meetings
> ** Notes
>
>
>
> #name : Source Code Block
> #contributor : Jonathan Arkell 
> # --
> #+BEGIN_SRC $1$>
> $0$>
> #+END_SRC$>
>
>
> All my other templates are very specific to my job/role.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+jonathana=criticalmass@gnu.org 
> [mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+jonathana=criticalmass@gnu.org] On Behalf 
> Of Bernt Hansen
> Sent: May 7, 2009 12:44 PM
> To: Rick Moynihan
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Organize Your Life In Plain Text!
>
> Rick Moynihan  writes:
>
>> 2009/5/7 Bernt Hansen :
>> Wow, Bernt!  This is awesome!!! :-) I'm sure it'll be food for thought
>> for most of us!
>
> Thanks :)
>
>>
>> So far I've only skimmed it, but want to take a more indepth look at
>> porting some of your ideas into my (far more limited) workflow.
>>
>> My only comment so far is that the keybindings table might be better
>> sorted by 'Used' frequency, so it's easier to see at a glance which
>> keybindings you find most useful.
>
> Done.
>
>> I finally managed to look at yasnippet myself yesterday, and found it
>> to be an awesome edition for any emacs user...  Naturally one of the
>> first things that occured to me was combining it with org-mode.  To
>> this end, I was wondering whether you have an org-mode snippet bundle
>> setup.  If so, I'd be curious to know what snippets you've defined.
>
> The only snippet I'm using right now that is org-mode related is the
> block snippet I stole from Eric :).  I've included it in the
> Productivity Tools section
> (http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#ProductivityTools) which I'll work
> on in the future.
>
> I'm still pretty new to yasnippet too but I'm not going back to working
> without it :).
>
> -Bernt
>
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[Orgmode] org-mode for Sourceforge Community Choice Award

[Marko Schütz]

I nominated org-mode for the Sourceforge Community Choice Award 2009

http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/nominate/?project_name=Org-Mode&project_url=http://orgmode.org/";>http://sourceforge.net/images/cca/cca_nominate.png";>

and thanks for org-mode.

Marko

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RE: [Orgmode] Organize Your Life In Plain Text!

[Jonathan Arkell]

Here are a few of my snippets:

#name : Properties Folded
#contributor : Jonathan Arkell 
# --
  :PROPERTIES:
  :VISIBILITY:folded:
  :END:



#name : Meeting
#contributor : Jonathan Arkell 
# --
 Attendees
 - $1
 General Notes
 - $2
 Generated Tasks
 Open Questions



#name : Project Page
#contributor : Jonathan Arkell 
# --
#+FILETAGS: :project:
* $1 :project:$2
** Status  :$3:
** Milestones
** Jira#
** People
** Links
*** Files
*** Client Work
*** URLs
** Tasks
** Meetings
** Notes



#name : Source Code Block
#contributor : Jonathan Arkell 
# --
#+BEGIN_SRC $1$>
$0$>
#+END_SRC$>


All my other templates are very specific to my job/role.

-Original Message-
From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+jonathana=criticalmass@gnu.org 
[mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+jonathana=criticalmass@gnu.org] On Behalf Of 
Bernt Hansen
Sent: May 7, 2009 12:44 PM
To: Rick Moynihan
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Organize Your Life In Plain Text!

Rick Moynihan  writes:

> 2009/5/7 Bernt Hansen :
> Wow, Bernt!  This is awesome!!! :-) I'm sure it'll be food for thought
> for most of us!

Thanks :)

>
> So far I've only skimmed it, but want to take a more indepth look at
> porting some of your ideas into my (far more limited) workflow.
>
> My only comment so far is that the keybindings table might be better
> sorted by 'Used' frequency, so it's easier to see at a glance which
> keybindings you find most useful.

Done.

> I finally managed to look at yasnippet myself yesterday, and found it
> to be an awesome edition for any emacs user...  Naturally one of the
> first things that occured to me was combining it with org-mode.  To
> this end, I was wondering whether you have an org-mode snippet bundle
> setup.  If so, I'd be curious to know what snippets you've defined.

The only snippet I'm using right now that is org-mode related is the
block snippet I stole from Eric :).  I've included it in the
Productivity Tools section
(http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#ProductivityTools) which I'll work
on in the future.

I'm still pretty new to yasnippet too but I'm not going back to working
without it :).

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[Orgmode] Re: Organize Your Life In Plain Text!

[Bernt Hansen]

cc-ing the org-mode mailing list

Memnon Anon  writes:

> Hi!
>
> I have one question:
>
> ,
> | Use the agenda view for STARTED tasks to find stuff in progress and
> | things to clock. I clock everything - some tasks are always in a STARTED
> | state (Like Organization, Email News and IRC, etc)
> `
>
> Doesn't it defeat the purpose to a certain degree to keep tasks
> 'started' all the time? I intend to increase my personal logging, 
> but I think I will keep some tasks like 'mail+news' without any
> todo state. Maybe an extra state -'undefined' or 'rep' or something like
> this- for this kind would be clever? 
>
> What do you think?
>  

Hi!

I used to have a special keyword ONGOING for things that I do a lot and
want to clock but never really start/end.  I had a special agenda view
for ONGOING tasks that I would pull up to easily find the thing I want
to clock.

Since then I've moved away from using the ONGOING todo keyword and just
use STARTED the same way.  If a task is clocked in it automatically
moves to a STARTED todo state and shows up on the list without having to
think about it.  Having an agenda view that shows STARTED tasks makes it
easy to pick the thing to clock - and I don't have to remember if I need
to look in the ONGOING list or the STARTED list when looking for the
task to clock in.  The STARTED list is basically 'what is current' -
stuff I worked on recently and need to continue working on.  I want to
find the thing to work on as fast as I can and actually do work on it -
not spend time hunting through my org files for the task that needs to
be clocked in.

I just find it easier to have it all in one short list.  My STARTED list
has less than 20 entries so it's pretty easy to find what I want.  The
whole point of the STARTED list is to make it easy and quick to find the
task to clock in.

I only have 2 tasks that are permanently in a STARTED state.  These are:

  - Organization
  - Email, News, and IRC

Everything else will eventually move to a DONE state and fall off the
list.

I found having two lists more confusing than just the single STARTED
list.

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Re: [Orgmode] Organize Your Life In Plain Text!

[Bernt Hansen]

Rick Moynihan  writes:

> 2009/5/7 Bernt Hansen :
> Wow, Bernt!  This is awesome!!! :-) I'm sure it'll be food for thought
> for most of us!

Thanks :)

>
> So far I've only skimmed it, but want to take a more indepth look at
> porting some of your ideas into my (far more limited) workflow.
>
> My only comment so far is that the keybindings table might be better
> sorted by 'Used' frequency, so it's easier to see at a glance which
> keybindings you find most useful.

Done.

> I finally managed to look at yasnippet myself yesterday, and found it
> to be an awesome edition for any emacs user...  Naturally one of the
> first things that occured to me was combining it with org-mode.  To
> this end, I was wondering whether you have an org-mode snippet bundle
> setup.  If so, I'd be curious to know what snippets you've defined.

The only snippet I'm using right now that is org-mode related is the
block snippet I stole from Eric :).  I've included it in the
Productivity Tools section
(http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#ProductivityTools) which I'll work
on in the future.

I'm still pretty new to yasnippet too but I'm not going back to working
without it :).

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Re: [Orgmode] Organize Your Life In Plain Text!

[Rick Moynihan]

2009/5/7 Bernt Hansen :
> Hi all,
>
> At Carsten's request I've started to document how I use org-mode in my
> daily activities.  I plan to cover everything I use org-mode for and
> this document is about half finished at this time.
>
> The current (under construction) document is available at
> http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html and I have added a link to it in
> Worg.
>
> I'll continue working on this document over the next few months but I
> think it has enough information in it already to be useful to other
> people.
>
> Comments and feedback are welcome.
>

Wow, Bernt!  This is awesome!!! :-) I'm sure it'll be food for thought
for most of us!

So far I've only skimmed it, but want to take a more indepth look at
porting some of your ideas into my (far more limited) workflow.

My only comment so far is that the keybindings table might be better
sorted by 'Used' frequency, so it's easier to see at a glance which
keybindings you find most useful.

I finally managed to look at yasnippet myself yesterday, and found it
to be an awesome edition for any emacs user...  Naturally one of the
first things that occured to me was combining it with org-mode.  To
this end, I was wondering whether you have an org-mode snippet bundle
setup.  If so, I'd be curious to know what snippets you've defined.

Again, thanks a lot for this - it looks like you've got a really nice
practical setup, with many ideas worth stealing!!


R.


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Re: [Orgmode] Latex export colouring and properties

[Simon Brown]

* Carsten Dominik (carsten.domi...@gmail.com) wrote:
> I guess this could be implemented, but for me, LaTeX is still mainly
> used for B&W text, so it never occurred to me.  I guess we could wrap  
> some
> kind of macro around it, and you would be responsible to define that  
> macro
I've thought about this some more and although I love colour
everywhere what I'm after is actually quite simple. Firstly on
reflection I agree exporting draws would be bad. 
   Where I work there are a lot of network restrictions which
means many documents are exchanged in printed form. Highlighting the
todo state red or green as it is within org-mode, makes important
points obvious. Some sort of colouring for the date stamps for scheduled,
deadline and closed would be nice as well

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Re: [Orgmode] iCal export - possible timezone bug

[Nick Dokos]

Richard Riley  wrote:

> Carsten Dominik  writes:
> 
> 
>  X-WR-TIMEZONE:Europe/Berlin
> 
>  and a quick test confirmed this. I don't have a clue if this is  
>  emacs
>  side or more in org's remit, but hope this helps.
> >>>
> >>> The only time zone information I get from Emacs is the abbreviation.
> >>> Does anyone know how to concert this into the longer form?
> >>>
> >>> - Carsten
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I asked in the emacs irc and drew a blank. Possibly use what you do
> >> unless an org-timezone string is set for now?
> >
> >
> > this makes sense.
> >
> > For now the variable is org-ical-timezone, maybe
> > later it will be aliased to org-timezone.
> >
> > Available now.
> >
> > - Carsten
> >
> >
> 
> tested, works. As does the fix on the export. Thanks.
> 

It might be a good idea to initialize the variable from the TZ
environment variable (if that is set). That way, one could add

export TZ
TZ=Europe/Amsterdam

e.g., in the appropriate login shell initialization file and get the
correct behavior with the system date as well as with org-icalendar.

I find the timezone stuff very confusing in general, but I have the
(perhaps incorrect) impression that people actually use the TZ env
variable sometimes, although I guess that Linux distros in general try
to automagically do the right thing at installation time by copying the
appropriate tzfile into /etc/localtime, so you don't have to worry about
TZ; but if you are switching between timezones or want to override the
default, TZ does work:

   export TZ=US/Eastern
   date
   export TZ=US/Pacific
   date
   export TZ=Europe/Berlin
   date

works as expected (this is on Ubuntu 8.04 - BTW, the tzfiles are in
/usr/share/zoneinfo on this distro.)

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: iCal export - possible timezone bug

[Richard Riley]

Richard Riley  writes:

> Greg Newman  writes:
>
>> There is also an uploader in the Google Calendar settings.
>
> I believe the url is the best route though since it will (actually, must
> check that) re-read it.
>

Well, surprisingly, it does NOT automatically update from the URL currently. 
From the
noise here

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Calendar/thread?tid=3fad85f47a70864b&hl=en

I suspect it will soon though or its a fairly useless feature.

regards

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Re: [Orgmode] iCal export - possible timezone bug

[Richard Riley]

Carsten Dominik  writes:

> On May 6, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Richard Riley wrote:
>
>> Carsten Dominik  writes:
>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Richard Riley wrote:
>>>

 My ics file exported from org has the following content:

 X-WR-TIMEZONE:CEST

 However, in Google calendar, it says the imported calendar is

(GMT+00:00) GMT (no daylight saving)


 A quick Google for ical and timezone makes me believe the format  
 might
 need to be

 X-WR-TIMEZONE:Europe/Berlin

 and a quick test confirmed this. I don't have a clue if this is  
 emacs
 side or more in org's remit, but hope this helps.
>>>
>>> The only time zone information I get from Emacs is the abbreviation.
>>> Does anyone know how to concert this into the longer form?
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I asked in the emacs irc and drew a blank. Possibly use what you do
>> unless an org-timezone string is set for now?
>
>
> this makes sense.
>
> For now the variable is org-ical-timezone, maybe
> later it will be aliased to org-timezone.
>
> Available now.
>
> - Carsten
>
>

tested, works. As does the fix on the export. Thanks.


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[Orgmode] Organize Your Life In Plain Text!

[Bernt Hansen]

Hi all,

At Carsten's request I've started to document how I use org-mode in my
daily activities.  I plan to cover everything I use org-mode for and
this document is about half finished at this time.

The current (under construction) document is available at
http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html and I have added a link to it in
Worg.

I'll continue working on this document over the next few months but I
think it has enough information in it already to be useful to other
people.

Comments and feedback are welcome.

Regards,
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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Carsten Dominik]

Yes, I forgot to push.

- Carsten

On May 7, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:


Carsten Dominik  wrote:



(setq org-export-html-table-use-header-tags-for-first-column t)



Carsten,

I just did a git pull and I cannot find this variable anywhere
in the tree (nor a git log entry that looks plausible). Are you
sure you committed it?

The last few log entries say:

commit dd1268dcac98867a8983dc1a117c9e86f6c7b286
Author: Carsten Dominik 
Date:   Thu May 7 13:53:35 2009 +0200

   New file: contrib/lisp/org-special-blocks.el

   Contributed by Chris Gray

commit 412314ab2bc97320f6c4f2103fa9aa001e829b15
Author: Carsten Dominik 
Date:   Thu May 7 08:39:12 2009 +0200

   ASCII export: Fix autoloading

commit b5d183e45c4f54bbbf89161322d7f1615cdaa5a2
Author: Carsten Dominik 
Date:   Wed May 6 18:47:44 2009 +0200

   Fix bug.

commit 8ac2704c26d896e0d60853807a59d130f8be667a
Author: Carsten Dominik 
Date:   Wed May 6 15:49:24 2009 +0200

   New variable `org-ical-timezone'.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: reloading causes visibility bug requiring restart

[Bernt Hansen]

I think this is a bug for org-cycle-include-plain-lists - I just haven't
had time to post details yet.

Glad I could help :)

Bernt


"Peter Westlake"  writes:

> On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:33:34 -0400, "Bernt Hansen" 
> said:
>> Do you have org-cycle-include-plain-lists set?  If you turn that off
>> does it work as expected?
>
> I have this same bug, and turning off org-cycle-include-plain-lists
> does fix it! I thought I had tried everything, but must have missed
> this post.
>
> For completeness, here's what I had been about to post:
>
>   The message line says FOLDED, CHILDREN, SUBTREE as it should, but
>   the entire top level headline is folded and unfolded as one, with
>   text showing even for CHILDREN. Plain lists still work. All
>   sub-headlines are treated as text. A list inside a sub-headline
>   appears as though the entries were top-level headlines. Motion
>   commands still move subtrees correctly. This is Org 6.26trans, as of
>   2009-04-30, and the latest emacs-snapshot, 1:20090423. It wasn't
>   caused by me trying org-inlinetask, because it happens even without
>   that. Outline mode still works properly. Drawers work properly too.
>
>   A completely fresh checkout of org-mode has the same problem.
>
> Thanks for the workaround!
>
> Peter.
>
>> -Bernt
>> 
>> Samuel Wales  writes:
>> 
>> > I can't do the typing to formally document this, so I will just ask if
>> > others experience it.  If not, it will take a while.
>> >
>> > Repeatably, with the latest git, emacs 22 cocoa, reloading org causes
>> > folding/visibility/cycling problems that are not fixable by reverting.
>> >  Only restarting emacs fixes it.
>> >
>> > The problems are weird enough that it should be obvious if you try it.
>> >  Seemingly random plain list items being the only visible part, etc.
>> > There is no cycling state in which all is shown, either from bob or
>> > from headline.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: iCal export - possible timezone bug

[Richard Riley]

Nick Dokos  writes:

> Richard Riley  wrote:
>
>> You need to firstly export your org mode files to iCal format.
>> 
>> For me thats (in an org file) C-c C-e (org-export) and then selecting
>> "c" to export to an ical file.
>> 
>> This creates (it would be nice to have a variable) ~/org.ics
>> 
>
> There *is* a variable:
>
> org-combined-agenda-icalendar-file
>
> HTH,
> Nick

Great, I missed that. I must learn to use apropos more. I had just
kooked at things in the org-icalendar-* space.

thanks,

r.

> ,
> | org-combined-agenda-icalendar-file is a variable defined in 
> `org-icalendar.el'.
> | Its value is "~/org.ics"
> | 
> | Documentation:
> | The file name for the iCalendar file covering all agenda files.
> | This file is created with the command M-x 
> org-export-icalendar-all-agenda-files.
> | The file name should be absolute, the file will be overwritten without 
> warning.
> | 
> | You can customize this variable.
> `
>

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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Sebastian Rose]

Jan Buchal  writes:
> CD> On May 7, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Jan Buchal wrote:
>
>>> "CD" == Carsten Dominik  writes:
> >> 
> CD> On May 7, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jan Buchal wrote:
>>
>>> Hello again,

 the problem is little bit complicate :-) I need  not in first
 row only but by every column which contain the name of row. In
 the attachment you can find the example
>>
>>CD> That is currently not possible.
>> And is it possible fix it? From the point of view of accessibility is a
>> bug.
>
> CD> I would not call it a bug, it is a limitation. Org is not a full
> CD> HTML table editor, there are many things it cannot do, including
> CD> column and row spanning, multiline fields, you name it.
> Unfortunately it is a bug. See please WCAG documentation. 


It's not. It's just something not implemented. And, as I see it, it
would be complicated to implement.


What you want seems to be this:

  1. It's recommended to put the column headers into the  element
 (Org-mode does this). That way column headers are re-printed on every
 page, if a table exceeds the size of one printed page.

  2. It's recommended to use  elements in tables like this:

  | Country | Number of citizens  |
  |-+|
  | Germany | 84 Mio.|
  | France  | XXX Mio.   |

  In this case it could make sense to put the country names in 
  tags (see 4.). I think this is, what you wanted.


  3. Use the caption element to describe the purpose of a
 table. Org-mode does this.
  

  4. The `scope' attribut describes, wich table cells are concerned by
 the  element.

 Again, our country example. This table should be handled corretly
 by a screen reader:

 
  Citizens per country
  
   
 Country 
 Number of citizens 
   
 
 
  
Germany 
84 Mio. 
  
  
France 
XXX Mio. 
  
  ...


There are more possible values for `scope' (`colgroup' and `rowgroup')
as well, as some additional possibilities to assign headers to cells
(`header' and `id') in such a way, that multiple headers describe one
cell.

In our example, the headers `Germany' and `Number of citizens' would
describe the cell `84 Mio.'.



I don't see, how Org-mode could decide which headers describe wich
cells.

The most obvious thing to do would be, to


a) mark cells as table-headers (this is the only needed new
   Org-syntax feature),
b) if in the first table row, add a  scope="col" to the  tag,
c) if in the first column, add a   scope="row"  to  the  tag. 



Beacuse if we take all those possible assignments into account, we'll
get something complicated to code, use and document...
We would have to end with some kind of `formular' syntax, like the one
used for the spreadsheet capabilities.


Regards

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: iCal export - possible timezone bug

[Nick Dokos]

Richard Riley  wrote:

> You need to firstly export your org mode files to iCal format.
> 
> For me thats (in an org file) C-c C-e (org-export) and then selecting
> "c" to export to an ical file.
> 
> This creates (it would be nice to have a variable) ~/org.ics
> 

There *is* a variable:

org-combined-agenda-icalendar-file

HTH,
Nick

,
| org-combined-agenda-icalendar-file is a variable defined in 
`org-icalendar.el'.
| Its value is "~/org.ics"
| 
| Documentation:
| The file name for the iCalendar file covering all agenda files.
| This file is created with the command M-x 
org-export-icalendar-all-agenda-files.
| The file name should be absolute, the file will be overwritten without 
warning.
| 
| You can customize this variable.
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Re: [Orgmode] Feature request: inherited priorities

[Peter Westlake]

On Tue, 5 May 2009 15:22:04 +0200, "Carsten Dominik"
 said:
...
> I think that any kind of priority inheritance would be defeating the
> purpose of priorities, by inflation.
>
> I think what you are trying to do is to assign a whole project subtree
> high importance, and I would suggest to use tags for this purpose,
> which also support inheritance, and which allow very flexible
> filtering.

That is what I'm trying to do, yes. And since there are so many
things like tags and categories that are inherited, and allow
sorting, it's reasonable for there to be something else that
isn't inherited. I'll have a look at the agenda commands.

Thank you,

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: iCal export - possible timezone bug

[Richard Riley]

Mario E. Munich  writes:

>> 
>> I asked in the emacs irc and drew a blank. Possibly use what you do
>> unless an org-timezone string is set for now?
>> 
>> Seeing my org-mode todos on my blackberry courtesy of Google calendar is
>> pretty neat!
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> r.
>> 
>
> Dear Richard,
>
> looking at org TODO's via Google calendar is quite sweet! I am going to sound
> completely naive in front of all the hard-core org users, but would it be
> possible that you describe your setup/workflow in order to get to see the org
> TODO's in the Google calendar? I have a Google G1 phone with Android, so I 
> would
> really like to connect the phone to my org workspace.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> -Mario

You need to firstly export your org mode files to iCal format.

For me thats (in an org file) C-c C-e (org-export) and then selecting
"c" to export to an ical file.

This creates (it would be nice to have a variable) ~/org.ics

What I then do is regularly move to my my web server using scp and cron
but you can do that however you like if you have your own web
server. Else I believe there are other sites which allow you to host
iCal files.

Then in Google, go to calendar and in the bottom left you see which
calendars are imported to your main Google calendar. Add has an option
to add by url. Voila!

On my blackberry I then run gsync  and using the rather nice iBerry
Today theme I see a preview of messages and relevant iCal entries on the
homepage.

With latest git version export to iCal is broken for me but I believe
Carsten is addressing it.

HTH,

regards

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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Nick Dokos]

Carsten Dominik  wrote:

> 
> (setq org-export-html-table-use-header-tags-for-first-column t)
> 

Carsten,

I just did a git pull and I cannot find this variable anywhere
in the tree (nor a git log entry that looks plausible). Are you
sure you committed it?

The last few log entries say:

commit dd1268dcac98867a8983dc1a117c9e86f6c7b286
Author: Carsten Dominik 
Date:   Thu May 7 13:53:35 2009 +0200

New file: contrib/lisp/org-special-blocks.el

Contributed by Chris Gray

commit 412314ab2bc97320f6c4f2103fa9aa001e829b15
Author: Carsten Dominik 
Date:   Thu May 7 08:39:12 2009 +0200

ASCII export: Fix autoloading

commit b5d183e45c4f54bbbf89161322d7f1615cdaa5a2
Author: Carsten Dominik 
Date:   Wed May 6 18:47:44 2009 +0200

Fix bug.

commit 8ac2704c26d896e0d60853807a59d130f8be667a
Author: Carsten Dominik 
Date:   Wed May 6 15:49:24 2009 +0200

New variable `org-ical-timezone'.

Thanks,
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: reloading causes visibility bug requiring restart

[Peter Westlake]

On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:33:34 -0400, "Bernt Hansen" 
said:
> Do you have org-cycle-include-plain-lists set?  If you turn that off
> does it work as expected?

I have this same bug, and turning off org-cycle-include-plain-lists
does fix it! I thought I had tried everything, but must have missed
this post.

For completeness, here's what I had been about to post:

  The message line says FOLDED, CHILDREN, SUBTREE as it should, but
  the entire top level headline is folded and unfolded as one, with
  text showing even for CHILDREN. Plain lists still work. All
  sub-headlines are treated as text. A list inside a sub-headline
  appears as though the entries were top-level headlines. Motion
  commands still move subtrees correctly. This is Org 6.26trans, as of
  2009-04-30, and the latest emacs-snapshot, 1:20090423. It wasn't
  caused by me trying org-inlinetask, because it happens even without
  that. Outline mode still works properly. Drawers work properly too.

  A completely fresh checkout of org-mode has the same problem.

Thanks for the workaround!

Peter.

> -Bernt
> 
> Samuel Wales  writes:
> 
> > I can't do the typing to formally document this, so I will just ask if
> > others experience it.  If not, it will take a while.
> >
> > Repeatably, with the latest git, emacs 22 cocoa, reloading org causes
> > folding/visibility/cycling problems that are not fixable by reverting.
> >  Only restarting emacs fixes it.
> >
> > The problems are weird enough that it should be obvious if you try it.
> >  Seemingly random plain list items being the only visible part, etc.
> > There is no cycling state in which all is shown, either from bob or
> > from headline.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >


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[Orgmode] Re: iCal export - possible timezone bug

[Mario E . Munich]

> 
> I asked in the emacs irc and drew a blank. Possibly use what you do
> unless an org-timezone string is set for now?
> 
> Seeing my org-mode todos on my blackberry courtesy of Google calendar is
> pretty neat!
> 
> cheers,
> 
> r.
> 

Dear Richard,

looking at org TODO's via Google calendar is quite sweet! I am going to sound
completely naive in front of all the hard-core org users, but would it be
possible that you describe your setup/workflow in order to get to see the org
TODO's in the Google calendar? I have a Google G1 phone with Android, so I would
really like to connect the phone to my org workspace.

Thanks a lot!

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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Jan Buchal]

> See, the problem here is that often in tables, the first column is not a
> header field, but just an index number or something.  While  the first lin in
> a table usually is a header, the first column is  not always.
>
> I guess we could have an option to always export the first column as header
> fields.


CD> OK

CD> (setq org-export-html-table-use-header-tags-for-first-column t)

It not works.

I aatache my .org file with the table.

Thanks

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Jan Buchal]

CD> On May 7, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Jan Buchal wrote:

>> "CD" == Carsten Dominik  writes:
>> 
CD> On May 7, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jan Buchal wrote:
>
>> Hello again,
>>>
>>> the problem is little bit complicate :-) I need  not in first
>>> row only but by every column which contain the name of row. In
>>> the attachment you can find the example
>
>CD> That is currently not possible.
> And is it possible fix it? From the point of view of accessibility is a
> bug.

CD> I would not call it a bug, it is a limitation. Org is not a full
CD> HTML table editor, there are many things it cannot do, including
CD> column and row spanning, multiline fields, you name it.
Unfortunately it is a bug. See please WCAG documentation. 

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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Carsten Dominik]

On May 7, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:



On May 7, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Jan Buchal wrote:


"CD" == Carsten Dominik  writes:


  CD> On May 7, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jan Buchal wrote:


Hello again,


the problem is little bit complicate :-) I need  not in first
row only but by every column which contain the name of row. In
the attachment you can find the example


  CD> That is currently not possible.
And is it possible fix it? From the point of view of accessibility  
is a

bug.


I would not call it a bug, it is a limitation.  Org is not a full  
HTML table editor, there are many things it cannot do, including  
column and row spanning, multiline fields, you name it.



For blind who want read the table is very difficult know which
column or row have which meaning.


Of coure I don't know how this works in your environment, but what  
is wring with reading (listening to) the content of the field in  
column 1?


See, the problem here is that often in tables, the first column is  
not a header field, but just an index number or something.  While  
the first lin in a table usually is a header, the first column is  
not always.


I guess we could have an option to always export the first column as  
header fields.



OK

(setq org-export-html-table-use-header-tags-for-first-column t)

HTH

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Carsten Dominik]

On May 7, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Jan Buchal wrote:


"CD" == Carsten Dominik  writes:


   CD> On May 7, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jan Buchal wrote:


Hello again,


the problem is little bit complicate :-) I need  not in first
row only but by every column which contain the name of row. In
the attachment you can find the example


   CD> That is currently not possible.
And is it possible fix it? From the point of view of accessibility  
is a

bug.


I would not call it a bug, it is a limitation.  Org is not a full HTML  
table editor, there are many things it cannot do, including column and  
row spanning, multiline fields, you name it.



For blind who want read the table is very difficult know which
column or row have which meaning.


Of coure I don't know how this works in your environment, but what is  
wring with reading (listening to) the content of the field in column 1?


See, the problem here is that often in tables, the first column is not  
a header field, but just an index number or something.  While the  
first lin in a table usually is a header, the first column is not  
always.


I guess we could have an option to always export the first column as  
header fields.




- Carsten




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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Jan Buchal]

> "CD" == Carsten Dominik  writes:

CD> On May 7, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jan Buchal wrote:

> Hello again,
>> 
>> the problem is little bit complicate :-) I need  not in first
>> row only but by every column which contain the name of row. In
>> the attachment you can find the example

CD> That is currently not possible.
And is it possible fix it? From the point of view of accessibility is a
bug. For blind who want read the table is very difficult know which
column or row have which meaning.


Thanks


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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Carsten Dominik]

On May 7, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jan Buchal wrote:


Hello again,

the problem is little bit complicate :-) I need  not in first row
only but by every column which contain the name of row. In the
attachment you can find the example


That is currently not possible.

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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Jan Buchal]

Hello again,

the problem is little bit complicate :-) I need  not in first row
only but by every column which contain the name of row. In the
attachment you can find the example

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[Orgmode] Re: Sorting org-mode Outlines with xemacs

[Eric S Fraga]

Carsten Dominik  writes:
> XEmacs 21 is still supported.

Yes, apologies for mis-information: I missed the "X" in XEmacs in the
OP's question.



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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Jan Buchal]

> "CD" == Carsten Dominik  writes:

CD> | | Project | HH | PDM | TC | Summary | | ! | Project | HH | PDM
CD> | TC | Summary |
Yes, that is a sollution.


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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Jan Buchal]

> "GR" == Giovanni Ridolfi  writes:

GR> --- Mer 6/5/09, Jan Buchal  ha scritto:
>> But if I wont use '!' mark in first column then is in HTML table
>> no header.
GR> ?-(

GR> Jan,

GR> In section 3.5.8 Advanced features [note 1]

GR> [note 1] Please note that the section is a SUBsection of the
GR> *SPREADSHEET* feature of the manual: Tables:: > The
GR> spreadsheet:: > Advanced features
yes, i Know.

GR> the manual states:

GR> `!' The fields in this line define names for the columns, so
GR> that you may refer to a column as `$Tot' instead of `$6'.
Yes, that is what i want. 
GR> So why do you insist in using "!" ? what do you want to achieve?
GR> what are the names of the columns you are referring to?
I want use aliases for refer not the munber of row or column.


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Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Carsten Dominik]

On May 6, 2009, at 5:28 PM, Jan Buchal wrote:


"GR" == Giovanni Ridolfi  writes:


   GR> --- Mer 6/5/09, Jan Buchal  ha scritto:


I create simple org table with the build-in table editor.


   GR> Jan, your table is ... too simple ;-)

   GR> The exporter has to know the first line is the header of the
   GR> table: so use the separator (C-c -)

   GR> | Project | HH | PDM | TC | Summary |
   GR> |--+---+---+---+-| | bibli09b |  
0.00

   GR> | 8.65 | 20.70 | 29.35 | | brlcm09a | 0.00 | 0.13 | 0.00 | 0.13
   GR> | | eurch09a | 26.70 | 0.59 | 0.00 | 27.29 |

thanks. It works. But if I wont use '!' mark in first column then is  
in

HTML table no header. Is it possible combine these two things?


|   | Project  |HH |   PDM |TC | Summary |
| ! | Project  |HH |   PDM |TC | Summary |
|---+--+---+---+---+-|
|   | bibli09b |  0.00 |  8.65 | 20.70 |   29.35 |
|   | brlcm09a |  0.00 |  0.13 |  0.00 |0.13 |
|   | eurch09a | 26.70 |  0.59 |  0.00 |   27.29 |
|   | ktnsp09a |  0.00 |  0.13 |  1.00 |1.13 |
|   | wpbas09a |  0.00 | 21.26 |  5.00 |   26.26 |
|   | Summary  | 26.70 | 30.76 | 26.70 |   84.16 |



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Re: [Orgmode] A Mark-up rule question

[Carsten Dominik]

Sure.

- Carsten

On May 6, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Xin Shi wrote:


Hi Carsten and Sebastian,

Thanks for your suggestions!

It seems the choice of unicode or not  is up to the developer for  
coding that part. For documentation purpose only,  I would prefer to  
have a first draft of character table which only contains two  
columns on Worg page:


  | Symbol  | Org   |
  |-+---+
  | \nbsp   | ~\nbsp~   |
  | \iexcl  | ~\iexcl~  |
  | \cent   | ~\cent~   |

Is that OK?

Xin



On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Sebastian Rose  
 wrote:

Forgot to say:

It's always a good idea to use the unicode entity notations in  
(X)HTML,

since you will not get an error `undefined entity...'

Example:

 Use ` ' instead of ` '


Regards

 Sebastian

Carsten Dominik  writes:
> On May 6, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Xin Shi wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Carsten Dominik > > wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Xin Shi wrote:
>>
>> Hi Carsten,
>>
>> That's great! It would be nice that we document all of this  
symbols in the

>> manual.
>>
>> Are you volunteering to make this table?  :-)
>>
>> Sure. I'll be glad to do that :)
>>
>> Could you tell me the format and where to put the documents?
>
>
> Maybe as a Worg page, so the format would be org-mode:
>
> * Table of special symbol macros
>
>  | Symbol | Org  | HTML  | LaTeX|
>  |+--+---+--|
>  | \vert  | ~\vert~  | ~|~  | ~\vert~  |
>  | \alpha | ~\alpha~ | ~α~ | ~\alpha~ |
>
>
>
>
> Note that HTML and LaTeX are not always the same word, only  
sometimes.

> In org-html-entities you can see this by looking at entries which
> are a cons cell, for example
>
> ("star" . "*") means "\star" in LaTeX, and "*" in HTML.
>
> I think many of these symbols have never been tried, so exporting
> this document to HTML and to LaTeX will be an interesting exercise
> and probably help us fix some bugs.
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Carsten
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Xin
>>
>>
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Re: Re: [Orgmode] An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables

[Giovanni Ridolfi]

--- Mer 6/5/09, Jan Buchal  ha scritto:
> But if I wont use '!' mark in first
> column then is in HTML table no header. 
?-(

Jan, 

In section 3.5.8 Advanced features [note 1]

[note 1]  Please note that the section is  a SUBsection of the 
 *SPREADSHEET* feature of the manual:
Tables:: > The spreadsheet:: > Advanced features

the manual states: 

`!' The fields in this line define names for the columns, so that you
 may refer to a column as `$Tot' instead of `$6'.

So  why do you insist in using "!" ?
what do you want to achieve? 
what are the names of the columns you are referring to?

cheers,
Giovanni





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