Re: [Orgmode] Question about tracking TODO state changes and M-S-ENTER
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Keith Swartz wrote: I'm using org-mode 6.25e right now, and I've turned on the functionality to track todo state changes. If I create a list item (M-ENTER) and then change it to a TODO (C-c C-t), it correctly puts the state change in the :LOGBOOK: drawer as I've configured it. However, if I use M-S-ENTER to combine the above two steps into one (create a TODO item), it does NOT create an entry in the LOGBOOK for State TODO from at all. Is that a bug? IMO, this is not really a state change. -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Question about tracking TODO state changes and M-S-ENTER
Fair enough. And you could further argue that M-S-Enter creates an initial state, so no "change" takes place. But then I'd say the fact that it records changing from nothing to TODO in the /first/ example is a bug. At the very least, it's inconsistent. The end result of those two operations really ought to be the same. The current behavior discourages me from using M-S-Enter because then I can't tell when I initially recorded the task, unlike in the first use case. Cheers, Keith Manish wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Keith Swartz wrote: I'm using org-mode 6.25e right now, and I've turned on the functionality to track todo state changes. If I create a list item (M-ENTER) and then change it to a TODO (C-c C-t), it correctly puts the state change in the :LOGBOOK: drawer as I've configured it. However, if I use M-S-ENTER to combine the above two steps into one (create a "TODO" item), it does NOT create an entry in the LOGBOOK for State "TODO" from "" at all. Is that a bug? IMO, this is not really a state change. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] nbsp in latex export
Hi, I noticed in the org manual today that `\nbsp' will become `nbsp;' in HTML and `~' in LaTeX. Trying it out, that is not quite true: \nbsp becomes $\nbsp$. I would rather have the behaviour of the documentation, but I was not implement it myself---I tried adding a special case to `org-export-latex-treat-backslash-char', but it didn't work. Cheers, Chris ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] timer for a task
On May 25, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Konstantin Antipin wrote: Here is the patch to org-clock.el that does show estimated effort in the mode-line if it is set. Like so: 01:20/01:30 (clocked time/estimated time) It does it by: * Setting new variable org-clock-effort in org-clock-in function. * If org-clock-effort is not nil, show estimated effort in the mode-line. I would like to go further and do the following: * Make a beep/or highlight if we spend more time on a task that initially intended * As proposed by Daniel, give user an option to see total time, spend on the task instead of currently clocked time. Does somebody else need this? Will this changes be accepted to the orgmode-core? I just saw that in order to contribute, you need to sign some papers.. Is this the only way? I am new to open-source, so I am not really familiar with such things. Hi Konstantin, this is interesting functionality which I would like to have in the core. I can accept short patches of only a few lines without the paperwork, but your patch is already at the limit, and adding the other ideas you have will push it over that limit. We have the following possibilities: 1. You sign the papers. This is very simple to do, unless you have an employer who owns everything you do and who might make problems. This would be my preferred solution. 2. I can put stuff without FSF copyright assignment into the contrib directory - you could make a little package that hooks into Org, I would created any hooks needed. 3. I treat your contribution as an idea/feature request and implement it myself. As I have many other things to do, this is my least preferred solution. If you decide to sign the papers, please get the form from the homepage orgmode.org (near te end) and send it to the FSF, with a CC to me. This will take you no more than 2 minutes. We can then proceed with integrating your stuff into the Org core, but I will be able to integrate this change into Emacs only after I receive confirmation about the signed paper, which will happen within a fee weeks or so. - Carsten best, Konstantin On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Eraldo Helal ad...@eraldo.at wrote: Sounds good to me. Eraldo On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:30, Konstantin Antipin antipin.konstan...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Daniel, Yes, you are right indeed. I am talking about effort estimates - I'v missed this chapter for some reason from the manual. I like the idea you proposed - to show how much time is left in the mode line. And I think I am going to write necessary code for this. Or, may be someone has even better idea? best, Konstantin On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Daniel Clemente n142...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I suppose you talk about estimated efforts. I also have noticed that I work better if I have defined them, but it is very easy to miss them and work on a task more time than planned. An easy improvement would be to show at the mode line not only how much time you have worked on the current task but also the remaining time according to your effort estimate. And if it comes to 0, highlight it noticeably. Other useful things to show would be the *total* elapsed time (not only the elapsed time of the last C-c C-x C-i) or directly the effort estimate (instead of the remaining time, the total time). And as you say, an alarm would be useful. -- Daniel El dl, mai 25 2009, Konstantin Antipin va escriure: Hi everybody! I am constantly trying to be more productive, and there is one thing that I noticed: If you give yourself a specific time for a task, then you tend to finish this task in this time. It helps to stay focused and do stuff that is most important. So, the question is - Is there any way to set a timer on a taks, and get a bell when it is expired? Some time before I even wrote a small extension that helps me to do that http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/tea-time But now I am thinking - is there an orgmode-way to do that? It would be great to integrate it with great time tracking system, for example... If nobody uses proposed feature, please give me a hint how it would be best to do that. my best, Konstantin ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode clock-efforts.patch___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to
Re: [Orgmode] nbsp in latex export
On May 26, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Chris Gray wrote: Hi, I noticed in the org manual today that `\nbsp' will become `nbsp;' in HTML and `~' in LaTeX. Trying it out, that is not quite true: \nbsp becomes $\nbsp$. I would rather have the behaviour of the documentation, but I was not implement it myself---I tried adding a special case to `org-export-latex-treat-backslash-char', but it didn't work. It is easier to fix this by adding that macro to org-latex-entities as well. Fixed, thanks. - Carsten Cheers, Chris ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Question about tracking TODO state changes and M-S-ENTER
On May 26, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Manish wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Keith Swartz wrote: I'm using org-mode 6.25e right now, and I've turned on the functionality to track todo state changes. If I create a list item (M-ENTER) and then change it to a TODO (C-c C-t), it correctly puts the state change in the :LOGBOOK: drawer as I've configured it. However, if I use M-S-ENTER to combine the above two steps into one (create a TODO item), it does NOT create an entry in the LOGBOOK for State TODO from at all. Is that a bug? IMO, this is not really a state change. In interesting point, and something up for discussion. I personally am neter interesting in recording a time stamp when first switching an item to TODO. Furthermore, for other state changes I prefer to record a note. However, M-S-RET is really meant for fast adding of one or more TODO entries, and being prompted for a state change note would be really annoying here. Up for discussion, I am willing to install a variable here - Carsten -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] docbook export-special
Thanks Carsten for 6.27. Ive been playing around with docbook export and further processing and was looking for something like export-special. Now its come but not (yet) for the docbook exporter. Any likelihood of it being supported there? I would try to hack on the code myself but dont know enough docbook. What's the equivalent in docbook to html's div? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] How to type A[0] in org w/o footnote
Hello Experts, I tried to type A[0] in a document with orgmode, but it gives me the footnote link. I could use A[ 0] for a quick replacement, but are there any better way to tell org not interpreting the footnote? Thanks! Xin ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: nbsp in latex export
Carsten Dominik wrote: On May 26, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Chris Gray wrote: Hi, I noticed in the org manual today that `\nbsp' will become `nbsp;' in HTML and `~' in LaTeX. Trying it out, that is not quite true: \nbsp becomes $\nbsp$. I would rather have the behaviour of the documentation, but I was not implement it myself---I tried adding a special case to `org-export-latex-treat-backslash-char', but it didn't work. Fixed, thanks. The fix only seemed to let \nbsp go through without being changed. I would rather it was changed to ~, as in the docs, because \nbsp is not a LaTeX command. Cheers, Chris ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Question about tracking TODO state changes and M-S-ENTER
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: On May 26, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Manish wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Keith Swartz wrote: I'm using org-mode 6.25e right now, and I've turned on the functionality to track todo state changes. If I create a list item (M-ENTER) and then change it to a TODO (C-c C-t), it correctly puts the state change in the :LOGBOOK: drawer as I've configured it. However, if I use M-S-ENTER to combine the above two steps into one (create a TODO item), it does NOT create an entry in the LOGBOOK for State TODO from at all. Is that a bug? IMO, this is not really a state change. In interesting point, and something up for discussion. I personally am neter interesting in recording a time stamp when first switching an item to TODO. Furthermore, for other state changes I prefer to record a note. However, M-S-RET is really meant for fast adding of one or more TODO entries, and being prompted for a state change note would be really annoying here. Up for discussion, I am willing to install a variable here Well, if you make it an option then all arguments die anyways. :) Personally, I also prefer to take a note upon certain state changes. Regards, -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] timer for a task
Carsten, thank you for explanation. Hopefully, I will get FSF papers soon. In a meanwhile, here is another patch that introduces following changes: In case we set effort estimate on the currently clocked item, show message when time is up (notification is shown only once) * Linux only: If libnotify is used - the standard notification system in linux, then show notification with it. Note: Additional package libnotify-bin should be installed. Additionally, if variable org-clock-sound is set, interpret it as path to sound file and play it (wav files only). * If aplay (tool from alsa - standard linux sound system) is available play sound with it (all type of files). So, if someone has interest in this features, please try it. I also would like to discuss If we want this functionality (sound and notification) in the core, or it is better to put it to the extension... Or, just introduce another variable that controls if we show notification or not... TODO: * As proposed by Daniel, give user an option to see total time, spend on the task instead of currently clocked time. In fact, this functionality requires refactoring of org-clock-sum function. Is it ok, if I do it? best, Konstantin patch is made on the git version of orgmode. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On May 25, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Konstantin Antipin wrote: Here is the patch to org-clock.el that does show estimated effort in the mode-line if it is set. Like so: 01:20/01:30 (clocked time/estimated time) It does it by: * Setting new variable org-clock-effort in org-clock-in function. * If org-clock-effort is not nil, show estimated effort in the mode-line. I would like to go further and do the following: * Make a beep/or highlight if we spend more time on a task that initially intended * As proposed by Daniel, give user an option to see total time, spend on the task instead of currently clocked time. Does somebody else need this? Will this changes be accepted to the orgmode-core? I just saw that in order to contribute, you need to sign some papers.. Is this the only way? I am new to open-source, so I am not really familiar with such things. Hi Konstantin, this is interesting functionality which I would like to have in the core. I can accept short patches of only a few lines without the paperwork, but your patch is already at the limit, and adding the other ideas you have will push it over that limit. We have the following possibilities: 1. You sign the papers. This is very simple to do, unless you have an employer who owns everything you do and who might make problems. This would be my preferred solution. 2. I can put stuff without FSF copyright assignment into the contrib directory - you could make a little package that hooks into Org, I would created any hooks needed. 3. I treat your contribution as an idea/feature request and implement it myself. As I have many other things to do, this is my least preferred solution. If you decide to sign the papers, please get the form from the homepage orgmode.org (near te end) and send it to the FSF, with a CC to me. This will take you no more than 2 minutes. We can then proceed with integrating your stuff into the Org core, but I will be able to integrate this change into Emacs only after I receive confirmation about the signed paper, which will happen within a fee weeks or so. - Carsten best, Konstantin On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Eraldo Helal ad...@eraldo.at wrote: Sounds good to me. Eraldo On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:30, Konstantin Antipin antipin.konstan...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Daniel, Yes, you are right indeed. I am talking about effort estimates - I'v missed this chapter for some reason from the manual. I like the idea you proposed - to show how much time is left in the mode line. And I think I am going to write necessary code for this. Or, may be someone has even better idea? best, Konstantin On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Daniel Clemente n142...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I suppose you talk about estimated efforts. I also have noticed that I work better if I have defined them, but it is very easy to miss them and work on a task more time than planned. An easy improvement would be to show at the mode line not only how much time you have worked on the current task but also the remaining time according to your effort estimate. And if it comes to 0, highlight it noticeably. Other useful things to show would be the *total* elapsed time (not only the elapsed time of the last C-c C-x C-i) or directly the effort estimate (instead of the remaining time, the total time). And as you say, an alarm would be useful. -- Daniel El dl, mai 25 2009, Konstantin Antipin va escriure: Hi everybody! I am constantly trying to be more productive, and there is one thing that I noticed: If you
Re: [Orgmode] Column view alignment in aquamacs?
Hi Duncan, Duncan Mortimer dmo...@gmail.com writes: I'm having trouble getting column view to properly align under Aquamacs (distrib 1.7). I'm using fixed-width fonts for both the tab-bar, and as the org-mode default, however, as soon as I enter column-view, the font changes to a variable-width one. Does anyone have any idea what is going on here? As far as I can tell, there aren't any variables that specify the column view font independently from the org-mode font...?? I think customizing the following two faces should do the trick. M-x customize-face RET org-column RET and M-x customize-face RET org-column-title RET Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: nbsp in latex export
Please try again, thanks. - Carsten On May 26, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Chris Gray wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: On May 26, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Chris Gray wrote: Hi, I noticed in the org manual today that `\nbsp' will become `nbsp;' in HTML and `~' in LaTeX. Trying it out, that is not quite true: \nbsp becomes $\nbsp$. I would rather have the behaviour of the documentation, but I was not implement it myself---I tried adding a special case to `org-export-latex-treat-backslash-char', but it didn't work. Fixed, thanks. The fix only seemed to let \nbsp go through without being changed. I would rather it was changed to ~, as in the docs, because \nbsp is not a LaTeX command. Cheers, Chris ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] timer for a task
On May 26, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Konstantin Antipin wrote: Carsten, thank you for explanation. Hopefully, I will get FSF papers soon. In a meanwhile, here is another patch that introduces following changes: In case we set effort estimate on the currently clocked item, show message when time is up (notification is shown only once) * Linux only: If libnotify is used - the standard notification system in linux, then show notification with it. Note: Additional package libnotify-bin should be installed. Additionally, if variable org-clock-sound is set, interpret it as path to sound file and play it (wav files only). * If aplay (tool from alsa - standard linux sound system) is available play sound with it (all type of files). So, if someone has interest in this features, please try it. I also would like to discuss If we want this functionality (sound and notification) in the core, or it is better to put it to the extension... Or, just introduce another variable that controls if we show notification or not... I think we can put this into the core if: - this will work without crashing on any system where Emacs runs on, i.e. if the re is no way to play a sound file, fall back to (ding) with a message or so... TODO: * As proposed by Daniel, give user an option to see total time, spend on the task instead of currently clocked time. In fact, this functionality requires refactoring of org-clock-sum function. Is it ok, if I do it? Maybe you don't really need to refactor it: (save-restriction (org-narrow-to-subtree) (org-clock-sum) org-clock-file-total-minutes) will give you the total clocked time in minutes. - Carsten best, Konstantin patch is made on the git version of orgmode. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On May 25, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Konstantin Antipin wrote: Here is the patch to org-clock.el that does show estimated effort in the mode-line if it is set. Like so: 01:20/01:30 (clocked time/estimated time) It does it by: * Setting new variable org-clock-effort in org-clock-in function. * If org-clock-effort is not nil, show estimated effort in the mode-line. I would like to go further and do the following: * Make a beep/or highlight if we spend more time on a task that initially intended * As proposed by Daniel, give user an option to see total time, spend on the task instead of currently clocked time. Does somebody else need this? Will this changes be accepted to the orgmode-core? I just saw that in order to contribute, you need to sign some papers.. Is this the only way? I am new to open-source, so I am not really familiar with such things. Hi Konstantin, this is interesting functionality which I would like to have in the core. I can accept short patches of only a few lines without the paperwork, but your patch is already at the limit, and adding the other ideas you have will push it over that limit. We have the following possibilities: 1. You sign the papers. This is very simple to do, unless you have an employer who owns everything you do and who might make problems. This would be my preferred solution. 2. I can put stuff without FSF copyright assignment into the contrib directory - you could make a little package that hooks into Org, I would created any hooks needed. 3. I treat your contribution as an idea/feature request and implement it myself. As I have many other things to do, this is my least preferred solution. If you decide to sign the papers, please get the form from the homepage orgmode.org (near te end) and send it to the FSF, with a CC to me. This will take you no more than 2 minutes. We can then proceed with integrating your stuff into the Org core, but I will be able to integrate this change into Emacs only after I receive confirmation about the signed paper, which will happen within a fee weeks or so. - Carsten best, Konstantin On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Eraldo Helal ad...@eraldo.at wrote: Sounds good to me. Eraldo On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:30, Konstantin Antipin antipin.konstan...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Daniel, Yes, you are right indeed. I am talking about effort estimates - I'v missed this chapter for some reason from the manual. I like the idea you proposed - to show how much time is left in the mode line. And I think I am going to write necessary code for this. Or, may be someone has even better idea? best, Konstantin On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Daniel Clemente n142...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I suppose you talk about estimated efforts. I also have noticed that I work better if I have defined them, but it is very easy to miss them and work on a task more time than planned. An easy improvement would be to show at the mode line not only how much time you have worked on the current task but also the remaining time according to your effort
[Orgmode] Re: How to type A[0] in org w/o footnote
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On May 26, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Xin Shi wrote: I tried to type A[0] in a document with orgmode, but it gives me the footnote link. I could use A[ 0] for a quick replacement, but are there any better way to tell org not interpreting the footnote? One way would be to always code code emphasis when typing something like this which is probably some kind of code snippet? So either #+begin_src c a[0] += 33 #+end_src or The pointer referenced by =a[0]= points to the first real number in the array =a= The second method will still highlight the [0] as a link in org-mode because of bad font-lock setup. However, during export this should behave fine. Another method is to turn off footnote handling in your export options line (f:nil) , | #+OPTIONS: f:nil ` -Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] org-remember template entry level
On May 24, 2009, at 10:26 PM, Richard KLINDA wrote: Hello, when org-remember creates a todo entry for me, it always is a level 1 entry, like: , | * foo ` I want it to be on level 3, like: , | *** foo ` However, even if my template contains 3 leading stars, , | (setq org-remember-templates | '((foo ?f *** foo | ~/.xemacs/org/foo.org bottom t))) ` If you want it at level 3, then probably as the child of some level 2 entry? Just replace bottom put the name of the level 2 headline, without any stars. (setq org-remember-templates '((foo ?f *** foo ~/.xemacs/org/foo.org My foo parent heading t))) the created entry is still on level 1. Is there a way to make org-remember keep the number of stars? No, the number of stars in the template are ignored. This is because some setups allow you to change the destination flexibly, so that the headline level needs to be adjusted. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Minor request: full support of ESC as Meta key
Hi Paolo, normally, meta key bindings should automatically also affect ESC bindings. So it should not be necessary, even though I see that I have done this in some cases, very like upon requests like your's. If you try to come up with a list of affected bindings/commands, I will add these specific bindings. However, as you have noticed, some keys in orgstruct-mode may be difficult. - Carsten On May 24, 2009, at 2:15 AM, Paolo Petta wrote: [Dear moderator: this is of course a minor remark, and it is clearly not up to me to decide whether it is worth while being recorded at all, let alone being spread to the mailing list! But I still do hope it is not considered a downright abuse of your time!] I only just started to look into Org: As OS-hopper using emacs regularly on different versions of Linux, Windows, and Mac OS, the comprehensive cross-platform support that Org promises is highly appealing. But trying to use Org relying on the Escape key as 'Meta', I discovered that Org's support in this regard is currently spotty. While for some key combinations both the [?\e (...)] and the [(meta ...)] variants are defined, it is only the [(meta ...)] definitions that are fully covered. For example, org-insert-todo- heading - one of the very first org-specific key-combinations introduced in the very useful Org tutorial - is mapped only to [(meta shift return)], the ESC-based equivalent [?\e (shift return)] is missing (org.el, line 13905). While I've tried to patch up org.el the best I could with the missing keymap definitions (and so far I have not run into problems), I am not proficient enough an elisp programmer to dare provide my fixes: e.g. I'm not at all sure to have made the correct additions to the section introduced with the comment ;; Special treatment needed for TAB and RET on line 6836 of org.el; the specification of disputed keys on line 331ff in org.el would be another example. I would therefore like to ask to please consider putting 'full' coverage for both keymap variants on the todo list for an upcoming release. With many thanks in advance! Paolo -- Paolo Petta +43-1-5336112-12(Tel) Austrian Research Inst. for Artificial Intelligence +43-1-5336112-77(Fax) Freyung 6/6, A 1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe Paolo.Petta @ ofai.at ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Cycling visibility of blocks
That does look cool! - Carsten On May 25, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: ahh - forgot - Carsten: note the unicorns: http://cloud.github.com/downloads/SebastianRose/org-search.php/speedbar1.png :-D Sebastian Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: and use #\\+begin_\\([^ ]+\\) \\(.+\\)[ \t]*\\([ \t]+\\([^\n]+\\)\\)?\n\\ ([^\000]+?\\)#\\+end_\\1 :) Sebastian Hi Sebastian, Thanks for the update! I've applied a slightly changed version of your regexp, and this is now working for all block types (the resulting file is attached). Where could this file be saved? The contrib directory seems like overkill for such a small piece of functionality maybe I should post it up somewhere on worg? Thanks -- Eric ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Cycling visibility of blocks
On May 25, 2009, at 10:40 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: I've applied a slightly changed version of your regexp, and this is now working for all block types (the resulting file is attached). Where could this file be saved? The contrib directory seems like overkill for such a small piece of functionality maybe I should post it up somewhere on worg? Hmm - why don't you juste start a `Snippets' section? I don't mind Worg to grow. Didn't you see http://wiki.github.com/SebastianRose/org-search.php? Not doing very much yet, but it's under way :) Another good place would be inside Org-mode's core IMHO. I would be happy to integrate this into the core. Eric, you agree? - Carsten Sebastian ;;; org-block-hide.el --- hide blocks in org-mode files (defvar org-block-hide-src-block-regexp #\\+begin_\\([^ ]+\\) ?\\([ \t]+\\([^\n]+\\)\\)?\n\\([^\000]+?\\)# \\+end_\\1) (defun org-block-hide-src-block-cycle-maybe () (let ((case-fold-search t)) (if (save-excursion (beginning-of-line 1) (looking-at org-block-hide-src-block-regexp)) (progn (call-interactively 'org-block-hide-src-block-cycle) t) ;; to signal that we took action nil))) ;; to signal that we did not (defun org-block-hide-src-block-cycle () Cycle the visibility of the current block (interactive) ;; should really do this once in an (org-mode hook) (add-to-invisibility-spec '(org-block-hide . t)) (message trying out source block) (save-excursion (beginning-of-line) (if (re-search-forward org-block-hide-src-block-regexp nil t) (let ((start (- (match-beginning 4) 1)) ;; beginning of body (end (match-end 0))) ;; end of entire body (if (memq t (mapcar (lambda (overlay) (eq (overlay-get overlay 'invisible) 'org-block-hide)) (overlays-at start))) (remove-overlays start end 'invisible 'org-block-hide) (overlay-put (make-overlay start end) 'invisible 'org- block-hide))) (error not looking at a source block ;; org-tab-after-check-for-cycling-hook (add-hook 'org-tab-first-hook 'org-block-hide-src-block-cycle-maybe) ;;; org-block-hide.el ends here -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Email: s.r...@emma-stil.de, sebastian_r...@gmx.de Http: www.emma-stil.de ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: How to type A[0] in org w/o footnote
Thanks a lot! Xin On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On May 26, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Xin Shi wrote: I tried to type A[0] in a document with orgmode, but it gives me the footnote link. I could use A[ 0] for a quick replacement, but are there any better way to tell org not interpreting the footnote? One way would be to always code code emphasis when typing something like this which is probably some kind of code snippet? So either #+begin_src c a[0] += 33 #+end_src or The pointer referenced by =a[0]= points to the first real number in the array =a= The second method will still highlight the [0] as a link in org-mode because of bad font-lock setup. However, during export this should behave fine. Another method is to turn off footnote handling in your export options line (f:nil) , | #+OPTIONS: f:nil ` -Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Minor request: full support of ESC as Meta key
Dear Carsten - many thanks for following up on this (and to the list for bearing with me!) --- more in a direct/private email. Paolo On Tue, 26 May 2009, Carsten Dominik wrote: Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:25:01 +0200 From: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com To: Paolo Petta paolo.pe...@ofai.at Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Minor request: full support of ESC as Meta key Hi Paolo, normally, meta key bindings should automatically also affect ESC bindings. So it should not be necessary, even though I see that I have done this in some cases, very like upon requests like your's. If you try to come up with a list of affected bindings/commands, I will add these specific bindings. However, as you have noticed, some keys in orgstruct-mode may be difficult. - Carsten On May 24, 2009, at 2:15 AM, Paolo Petta wrote: [Dear moderator: this is of course a minor remark, and it is clearly not up to me to decide whether it is worth while being recorded at all, let alone being spread to the mailing list! But I still do hope it is not considered a downright abuse of your time!] I only just started to look into Org: As OS-hopper using emacs regularly on different versions of Linux, Windows, and Mac OS, the comprehensive cross-platform support that Org promises is highly appealing. But trying to use Org relying on the Escape key as 'Meta', I discovered that Org's support in this regard is currently spotty. While for some key combinations both the [?\e (...)] and the [(meta ...)] variants are defined, it is only the [(meta ...)] definitions that are fully covered. For example, org-insert-todo-heading - one of the very first org-specific key-combinations introduced in the very useful Org tutorial - is mapped only to [(meta shift return)], the ESC-based equivalent [?\e (shift return)] is missing (org.el, line 13905). While I've tried to patch up org.el the best I could with the missing keymap definitions (and so far I have not run into problems), I am not proficient enough an elisp programmer to dare provide my fixes: e.g. I'm not at all sure to have made the correct additions to the section introduced with the comment ;; Special treatment needed for TAB and RET on line 6836 of org.el; the specification of disputed keys on line 331ff in org.el would be another example. I would therefore like to ask to please consider putting 'full' coverage for both keymap variants on the todo list for an upcoming release. With many thanks in advance! Paolo -- Paolo Petta +43-1-5336112-12(Tel) Austrian Research Inst. for Artificial Intelligence +43-1-5336112-77(Fax) Freyung 6/6, A 1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe Paolo.Petta @ ofai.at ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Paolo Petta +43-1-5336112-12(Tel) Austrian Research Inst. for Artificial Intelligence +43-1-5336112-77(Fax) Freyung 6/6, A 1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe Paolo.Petta @ ofai.at ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] First line of exported HTML causes error as .php
I think there's been a change in HTML export which has broken the way in which I was using org to produce PHP files. The HTML exporter now produces the following as the first line (I believe this is new). ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1? However, when the file is produced with a .php suffix (setq org-export-html-extension php) and placed on a PHP-enabled web server, I get this error: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /net/markov/export/postdocs/davison/pub_html/software/shellfish/shellfish.php on line 1 It seems to work OK if I delete the first line. I know next to nothing about these things and I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me whether this should be viewed as a bug in org, or whether I am just doing things the wrong way. (Is this how others produce PHP files in org?) Thanks, Dan ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
RE: [Orgmode] First line of exported HTML causes error as .php
IT is how PHP is configured on your server. The easiest thing is to set the option short_open_tag to false (assuming you don't use the short ? ? tag syntax, and use the proper ?php ? syntax instead). Check http://ca.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.short-open-tag for details. -Original Message- From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+jonathana=criticalmass@gnu.org [mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+jonathana=criticalmass@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Dan Davison Sent: May 26, 2009 1:20 PM To: emacs org-mode mailing list Subject: [Orgmode] First line of exported HTML causes error as .php I think there's been a change in HTML export which has broken the way in which I was using org to produce PHP files. The HTML exporter now produces the following as the first line (I believe this is new). ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1? However, when the file is produced with a .php suffix (setq org-export-html-extension php) and placed on a PHP-enabled web server, I get this error: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /net/markov/export/postdocs/davison/pub_html/software/shellfish/shellfish.php on line 1 It seems to work OK if I delete the first line. I know next to nothing about these things and I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me whether this should be viewed as a bug in org, or whether I am just doing things the wrong way. (Is this how others produce PHP files in org?) Thanks, Dan ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode The information contained in this message is confidential. It is intended to be read only by the individual or entity named above or their designee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution of this message, in any form, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete or destroy any copy of this message. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Cycling visibility of blocks
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On May 25, 2009, at 10:40 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: Another good place would be inside Org-mode's core IMHO. I would be happy to integrate this into the core. Eric, you agree? - Carsten Sounds good to me. -- Eric ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Cycling visibility of blocks
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: I've applied a slightly changed version of your regexp, and this is now working for all block types (the resulting file is attached). Where could this file be saved? The contrib directory seems like overkill for such a small piece of functionality maybe I should post it up somewhere on worg? Hmm - why don't you juste start a `Snippets' section? I don't mind Worg to grow. Didn't you see http://wiki.github.com/SebastianRose/org-search.php? Not doing very much yet, but it's under way :) I've been tracking it on github, but haven't had a chance to try it out. While I have a decent amount of experience with Ruby web applications I've never before used php. This looks very similar to blorgit[1], my own org-mode web project. I'm looking forward to taking a closer look. -- Eric [1] http://github.com/eschulte/blorgit/tree/master ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] timer for a task
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On May 26, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Konstantin Antipin wrote: Carsten, thank you for explanation. Hopefully, I will get FSF papers soon. In a meanwhile, here is another patch that introduces following changes: In case we set effort estimate on the currently clocked item, show message when time is up (notification is shown only once) * Linux only: If libnotify is used - the standard notification system in linux, then show notification with it. Note: Additional package libnotify-bin should be installed. Additionally, if variable org-clock-sound is set, interpret it as path to sound file and play it (wav files only). * If aplay (tool from alsa - standard linux sound system) is available play sound with it (all type of files). So, if someone has interest in this features, please try it. I also would like to discuss If we want this functionality (sound and notification) in the core, or it is better to put it to the extension... Or, just introduce another variable that controls if we show notification or not... I think we can put this into the core if: - this will work without crashing on any system where Emacs runs on, i.e. if the re is no way to play a sound file, fall back to (ding) with a message or so... Well, I made it such, that * If you are using linux * and if you have libnotify or aplay in your $PATH, then libnotify or aplay will be used. If not, use simple message and emacs-beep. It should not break things... TODO: * As proposed by Daniel, give user an option to see total time, spend on the task instead of currently clocked time. In fact, this functionality requires refactoring of org-clock-sum function. Is it ok, if I do it? Maybe you don't really need to refactor it: (save-restriction (org-narrow-to-subtree) (org-clock-sum) org-clock-file-total-minutes) will give you the total clocked time in minutes. Coool! so elegantly simple! I used it in the current patch. DONE: Show total clocked time in mode line. (Instead of time since last start) In fact, now I simply changed the default behavior - now mode-line shows total clocked time, without giving user a preference. I thought it is more logical behavior... Or should I introduce defcustom that controls it? Probably I am sending too much patches around :) Just a suggestion: why don't we use github for org-mode hosting? It would be s simple to contribute and to manage things! You would only benefit from this, Carsten.;) Github is a really nice service. And free, of course. Transition to it would be a breeze as well. I can help, if needed with this... Konstantin - Carsten best, Konstantin patch is made on the git version of orgmode. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On May 25, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Konstantin Antipin wrote: Here is the patch to org-clock.el that does show estimated effort in the mode-line if it is set. Like so: 01:20/01:30 (clocked time/estimated time) It does it by: * Setting new variable org-clock-effort in org-clock-in function. * If org-clock-effort is not nil, show estimated effort in the mode-line. I would like to go further and do the following: * Make a beep/or highlight if we spend more time on a task that initially intended * As proposed by Daniel, give user an option to see total time, spend on the task instead of currently clocked time. Does somebody else need this? Will this changes be accepted to the orgmode-core? I just saw that in order to contribute, you need to sign some papers.. Is this the only way? I am new to open-source, so I am not really familiar with such things. Hi Konstantin, this is interesting functionality which I would like to have in the core. I can accept short patches of only a few lines without the paperwork, but your patch is already at the limit, and adding the other ideas you have will push it over that limit. We have the following possibilities: 1. You sign the papers. This is very simple to do, unless you have an employer who owns everything you do and who might make problems. This would be my preferred solution. 2. I can put stuff without FSF copyright assignment into the contrib directory - you could make a little package that hooks into Org, I would created any hooks needed. 3. I treat your contribution as an idea/feature request and implement it myself. As I have many other things to do, this is my least preferred solution. If you decide to sign the papers, please get the form from the homepage orgmode.org (near te end) and send it to the FSF, with a CC to me. This will take you no more than 2 minutes. We can then proceed with integrating your stuff into the Org core, but I will be able to integrate this change into Emacs only after I receive confirmation about the signed paper,
[Orgmode] Re: docbook export-special
Hi Rustom, Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com writes: Thanks Carsten for 6.27. Ive been playing around with docbook export and further processing and was looking for something like export-special. Now its come but not (yet) for the docbook exporter. What do you mean by export-special? Do you mean exporting blocks that look like the following lines? #+begin_xyz ... #+end_xyz (where xyz can be some DocBook element). Baoqiu Any likelihood of it being supported there? I would try to hack on the code myself but dont know enough docbook. What's the equivalent in docbook to html's div? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Custom docbook stylesheets.
Greetings List, I was suprised an pleased to discover that the docbook exporter has the ability to apply the stylesheets to transform to fo and to also process that to pdf. Somehing I'd like to see is a document specific way to specify the stylesheet. I tried setting org-export-docbook-xslt-proc-command in a Local Variables: section, but it seems the variable is being used from a different buffer. So, what do you think about some kind of document property to overrride a global setting? The current org-export-docbook-xslt-proc-command is a format string, with a fixed order of arguments (the fo filename and then the input docbook filname). Thats probably good enough for most (all?) xslt processors, but things may be more limited when it comes to also specifying the stylesheet. Do we need to have some kind of special markers in the format string for where the different options go? Something like $i $o and $s (for in, out, and stysheet)? -Dale -- Dale P. Smith da...@vtiinstruments.com 216-447-4059 x2018 216-447-8951 FAX (Company mandated disclaimer follows...) The information in this e-mail and any attachments is intended solely for use by the recipient(s) to whom this e-mail is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information which is exempt from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this e-mail and any attachments in error and that dissemination, distribution, review or copying of this e-mail and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all electronic and paper copies of this e-mail as well as any attachments. Thank you. http://www.vtiinstruments.com/images/vtiemaillogo.gif ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] How to preverse fold status after reopening a file
Hi everyone, org-mode can show a file in following mode when opening a file: overview top-level headlines only contentall headlines showallno folding at all, show everything But they don't feed my need. I want to have the file exactly the same as last time I open it, i.e. if a headline is fold when closing it will be fold after reopening. If that's not possible. Is there any properties that I can apply to one headline, that will keep the headline fold (or unfold) unless the user press TAB on them? -- Thanks, Yuanle ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] How to preverse fold status after reopening a file
On May 27, 2009, at 4:19 AM, Yuanle Song wrote: Hi everyone, org-mode can show a file in following mode when opening a file: overview top-level headlines only contentall headlines showallno folding at all, show everything But they don't feed my need. I want to have the file exactly the same as last time I open it, i.e. if a headline is fold when closing it will be fold after reopening. If that's not possible. Is there any properties that I can apply to one headline, that will keep the headline fold (or unfold) unless the user press TAB on them? No, it is currently not possible to save the folding state of a tree. Using properties would, in my opinion be too heavy, I am not sure if I would like to have a property change each time I change the visibility of some part. Maybe you can write a add-on which in some way allows to save the folding state, I don't have a good idea how to do this. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] How to preverse fold status after reopening a file
Hi Yuanle, Yuanle Song syl...@gmail.com writes: org-mode can show a file in following mode when opening a file: overview top-level headlines only contentall headlines showallno folding at all, show everything But they don't feed my need. I want to have the file exactly the same as last time I open it, i.e. if a headline is fold when closing it will be fold after reopening. My guess is that this would require a lot of overhead to implement in a plain text system like org. If that's not possible. Is there any properties that I can apply to one headline, that will keep the headline fold (or unfold) unless the user press TAB on them? I believe the following passage from the manual (2.3) will be of interest: , | Furthermore, any entries with a ‘VISIBILITY’ property (see Properties | and Columns) will get their visibility adapted accordingly. Allowed | values for this property are folded, children, content, and all. ` http://orgmode.org/manual/Visibility-cycling.html#Visibility-cycling Regards, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] timer for a task
On May 27, 2009, at 12:13 AM, Konstantin Antipin wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On May 26, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Konstantin Antipin wrote: Carsten, thank you for explanation. Hopefully, I will get FSF papers soon. In a meanwhile, here is another patch that introduces following changes: In case we set effort estimate on the currently clocked item, show message when time is up (notification is shown only once) * Linux only: If libnotify is used - the standard notification system in linux, then show notification with it. Note: Additional package libnotify-bin should be installed. Additionally, if variable org-clock-sound is set, interpret it as path to sound file and play it (wav files only). * If aplay (tool from alsa - standard linux sound system) is available play sound with it (all type of files). So, if someone has interest in this features, please try it. I also would like to discuss If we want this functionality (sound and notification) in the core, or it is better to put it to the extension... Or, just introduce another variable that controls if we show notification or not... I think we can put this into the core if: - this will work without crashing on any system where Emacs runs on, i.e. if the re is no way to play a sound file, fall back to (ding) with a message or so... Well, I made it such, that * If you are using linux * and if you have libnotify or aplay in your $PATH, then libnotify or aplay will be used. If not, use simple message and emacs-beep. It should not break things... TODO: * As proposed by Daniel, give user an option to see total time, spend on the task instead of currently clocked time. In fact, this functionality requires refactoring of org-clock-sum function. Is it ok, if I do it? Maybe you don't really need to refactor it: (save-restriction (org-narrow-to-subtree) (org-clock-sum) org-clock-file-total-minutes) will give you the total clocked time in minutes. Coool! so elegantly simple! I used it in the current patch. This is now a single patch, containing all your changes? DONE: Show total clocked time in mode line. (Instead of time since last start) In fact, now I simply changed the default behavior - now mode-line shows total clocked time, without giving user a preference. I thought it is more logical behavior... Or should I introduce defcustom that controls it? Probably I am sending too much patches around :) Just a suggestion: why don't we use github for org-mode hosting? It would be s simple to contribute and to manage things! You would only benefit from this, Carsten.;) Github is a really nice service. And free, of course. What would be the advantages of using github instead of repo.or.cz? I have found repo.or.cz less polished looking than githib, but very fast and reliable, while github is getting boged down when America wakes up :-) - Carsten Transition to it would be a breeze as well. I can help, if needed with this... Konstantin - Carsten best, Konstantin patch is made on the git version of orgmode. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On May 25, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Konstantin Antipin wrote: Here is the patch to org-clock.el that does show estimated effort in the mode-line if it is set. Like so: 01:20/01:30 (clocked time/estimated time) It does it by: * Setting new variable org-clock-effort in org-clock-in function. * If org-clock-effort is not nil, show estimated effort in the mode-line. I would like to go further and do the following: * Make a beep/or highlight if we spend more time on a task that initially intended * As proposed by Daniel, give user an option to see total time, spend on the task instead of currently clocked time. Does somebody else need this? Will this changes be accepted to the orgmode-core? I just saw that in order to contribute, you need to sign some papers.. Is this the only way? I am new to open-source, so I am not really familiar with such things. Hi Konstantin, this is interesting functionality which I would like to have in the core. I can accept short patches of only a few lines without the paperwork, but your patch is already at the limit, and adding the other ideas you have will push it over that limit. We have the following possibilities: 1. You sign the papers. This is very simple to do, unless you have an employer who owns everything you do and who might make problems. This would be my preferred solution. 2. I can put stuff without FSF copyright assignment into the contrib directory - you could make a little package that hooks into Org, I would created any hooks needed. 3. I treat your contribution as an idea/feature request and implement it myself. As I have many other things to do, this is my least preferred solution. If you decide to sign the papers, please get the
