Re: [Orgmode] Re: How to log diary or journal entries

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Russel,

it is now in org.texi, which means it will be in the manual
of the next release.  THe manual on the web gets only updated
for a release, not for each git push.

- Carsten

On Aug 18, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Russell Adams wrote:


OMG I knew Carsten had added that, but its not in the manual! I just
checked, I don't see it in the key list under Agenda. I was looking
for it recently, thanks for cluing me in.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 03:08:32PM -0400, Bernt Hansen wrote:

Pull up an agenda view for the day/week you are interested in viewing
then hit '[' to display inactive timestamps.

Does that do what you need?

-Bernt


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Re: Small bug in the LaTeX exporter? [was: Re: [Orgmode] I_can_not_understand_ +strike-through+]

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Nick and waterloo,

I have now added the ulem package to support strike-through emphasis.
Thanks for looking this up in the TeX docs.

- Carsten

On Aug 17, 2009, at 3:55 AM, Nick Dokos wrote:


Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote:


...
The correct markup, according to the TeX FAQ:

http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=overstrike,

is obtained using the ulem package:


\usepackage{ulem}

...
\sout{strike-through}
...




...or as the FAQ clearly states but I omitted to mention:

\usepackage{soul}

...
\st{strike-through}
...

I don't know which of the two packages is better, but as far
as the LaTeX exporter is concerned, they both present the same
problem.

Nick


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Re: [Orgmode] Bold font double quotes when exporting to PDF

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Manuel,


On Aug 8, 2009, at 7:38 AM, Manuel Amador wrote:


Hi,

I have been trying to get orgmode to export to pdf the following:

 Write something then *something bold should go here* and go on.


This should now work.

- Carsten



That is, I would like the sentence inside the quotes to be in bold
font. However, the above does not work: it results in the *  
character

being exported literally in the pdf. Similarly,

 Write something then *something bold should go here* and go on.

doesn't work either.

Is there a way of doing this or is this something that orgmode is not
supposed to do?

Manuel

PS: I am using the latest orgmode git repository and emacs 23.0.91.1






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[Orgmode] Org-export: symbol's variable void

2009-08-18 Thread Uwe Jochum
Hi all,

when I want to publish a project using the key combo C-c C-e I get this
in the message buffer: 

symbol's value as variable is void: org-protecting-blocks

This message appears before I can hit the final C/P/F/E-key to trigger
the publication process.

This happens after upgrading to Org-6.29c, using Emacs 23.1.1 on Windows
XP. 

Schöne Grüße,

Uwe Jochum



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Re: [Orgmode] Org-export: symbol's variable void

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Uwe,

Please provide a backtrace.

- Carsten

On Aug 18, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Uwe Jochum wrote:


Hi all,

when I want to publish a project using the key combo C-c C-e I get  
this

in the message buffer:

symbol's value as variable is void: org-protecting-blocks

This message appears before I can hit the final C/P/F/E-key to trigger
the publication process.

This happens after upgrading to Org-6.29c, using Emacs 23.1.1 on  
Windows

XP.

Schöne Grüße,

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Re: [Orgmode] Display bug: Folding headline at EOF without newline

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi David,

this is a bug in Emacs outline-mode, Org just calls (hide-subtree) here,
and that command causes this problem.

Please report it as an Emacs bug.

Thanks!

- Carsten

On Aug 16, 2009, at 10:57 PM, David Maus wrote:


Evening,

While debugging some unexpected behaviour of my Pos1-Key I stumpled
upon somethinkg I consider a display-bug when folding a headline at
the end of a file whose last line of content does not have a new line
in org-mode dev.

Example file:

,
| * Headline
|
|   Some text...
|
| * Headline
|
|   Some text... lalala
`

If I fold the last headline the last char of the content (in this
case: a) is displayed after the three dots indicating a folded
headline (also tested with emacs -Q).

,
| * Headline
|
|   Some text...
|
| * Headline...a
`

Org-mode version 6.29trans (pulled some minutes ago)

GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.5) of
2009-08-14 on elegiac, modified by Debian

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Re: [Orgmode] REMEMBER trouble: filled with a link of the current visited file ?

2009-08-18 Thread Eric S Fraga
At Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:09:05 +0200,
Xavier Maillard wrote:
 
 When I fire remember in order to enter task(s), it generally
 happens when I am doing another thing and thus, many times I fire
 it when visiting a file.

 [and two other emails about org-mode and remember]

Xavier,

As I'm offline, it's likely that others have already answered but,
just in case, the answer to all of your three emails is to configure
org-remember-templates.  Configuring this is described in the manual:
org mode - capture - remember - remember templates.

HTH,
eric


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Re: [Orgmode] Possible buglet in latex export

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi,

I just tried and cannot get it to crash.

Robert, it seems we need, instead of a bug description, a test file,  
with the actual URL you are using.


- Carsten

On Aug 17, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:


Robert Goldman rpgold...@sift.info wrote:


I am not exactly sure why the un-protected URL causes problems for me
and not for Nick.  However, I am trying to generate latex for beamer,
which seems very tricky, and perhaps that's what's going wrong here  
---

I'm getting beamer's internal state messed up.  I'm not sure; will
report if I can disentangle it.



Maybe it's the details of the URL that matter? I tried exporting the
little example that I posted to beamer and that also worked. If you  
have

not tried my example already, maybe you should: it may be that my
example is *too* simple - in which case, can you post a URL that is  
giving

you trouble?

Thanks,
Nick

PS. For the record, here's the version of hyperref I'm using:

Package: hyperref 2007/02/07 v6.75r Hypertext links for LaTeX


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Re: [Orgmode] TODO keywords into drawers ?

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Aug 18, 2009, at 6:31 AM, Xavier Maillard wrote:


hi,

I am relatively new (even if I used it years ago) to orgmode.


I still remember :-)



I extensively use remember to jot down new tasks/notes/... it
feets perfectly since it is almost instantaneous.

Sometimes, when at work, someone enters my room to speak about a
project. When finished, I fire remember and try to sum up our
discussion. This is not really a task to do but when reviewing my
notes, it can be switched to a task entry.

With my current setup, I have to differenciate, when in remember,
if it is a task, a note or something else. If I do not, I do not
see these entries when reviewing my org files. This is the big
hole in my system which makes me not trust my system :/


For things that you need to decide about later, I would use
a special template with a special tag.  You can then later
always searc for this tag, decide, and refile.



What I'd like to have in orgmode is a simpler and homogeneous way
to do things.

* TODO foo bar

would be

* foo bar
:TYPE:
TODO
:END:


No.  I believe that having TODO keywords and tags in special
places is really critical for Org-mode when used in a simple
way.  And since the philosophy of Org is to build up use from
simple to complex, I don't want to change this.  Also, I fail
to see how this would help the proble you describe above.

On the other hand, you can define with a template that will
interactively prompt you for a tag, so that you can make this
decision when starting remember.

- Carsten



a note would be

* foo bar
:TYPE:
NOTE
:END:

etc.

A default entry would have a special entry type -say UNKNOWN-
thus making the review much more trustable. What I like in this
idea is the homegenous view of any orgmode file and I guess this
would make orgmode file parsing a lot easier.

We could even go further by storing all orgmode entries meta-data
into drawers (tags, timestamps, states, ...)

WDYT ?

Regards

Xavier



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Re: [Orgmode] Notes and Clock entries

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Noorul Islam K M wrote:



Hi,

Please take a look at the below org file. Initially I created the TODO
item and then clocked in and out. Then inserted a note. Followed by  
some

clock ins and outs.  Everything is organized from top to bottom as we
enter items. Earlier I remember the clock entries were grouped and
always appeared at the top but now it is cluttered. I am using the
latest version from git repo. Is this the expected behavior or am I
missing something by which I can group all the clock entries into a
group at the top or bottom? Also I remember that I was able to hide
entire clock entries.

--CUT---
* Inbox
** TODO This is a test
  CLOCK: [2009-08-05 Wed 18:46]
  CLOCK: [2009-08-05 Wed 18:46]--[2009-08-05 Wed 18:46] =  0:00
  CLOCK: [2009-08-05 Wed 18:46]--[2009-08-05 Wed 18:46] =  0:00
  - Note taken on [2009-08-05 Wed 18:46] \\
Test
  CLOCK: [2009-08-05 Wed 18:46]--[2009-08-05 Wed 18:46] =  0:00

--CUT



Notes and clock entries are supposed to be kept in
chronological sequence.  So yes, this is the expected behavior.

You can define a separate drawer for clock entries, if you prefer so:

(setq org-clock-into-drawer CLOCK)

- Carsten



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[Orgmode] Re: Notes and Clock entries

2009-08-18 Thread Bernt Hansen
Xavier Maillard x...@gnu.org writes:

 At Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:28:40 -0400,
 Bernt Hansen wrote:
 
 Noorul Islam K M gnu...@gmail.com writes:
 
  Please take a look at the below org file. Initially I created the TODO
  item and then clocked in and out. Then inserted a note. Followed by some
  clock ins and outs.  Everything is organized from top to bottom as we
  enter items. Earlier I remember the clock entries were grouped and
  always appeared at the top but now it is cluttered. I am using the
  latest version from git repo. Is this the expected behavior or am I
  missing something by which I can group all the clock entries into a
  group at the top or bottom? Also I remember that I was able to hide
  entire clock entries.
 
 Take a look at the variable org-clock-into-drawer.  This saves your
 clock entries in a :LOGBOOK: drawer which you can expand or hide.

 Mine says this:

 org-clock-into-drawer's value is t

 Documentation:
 Should clocking info be wrapped into a drawer?
 When t, clocking info will always be inserted into a :CLOCK: drawer.
 If necessary, the drawer will be created.
 When nil, the drawer will not be created, but used when present.
 When an integer and the number of clocking entries in an item
 reaches or exceeds this number, a drawer will be created.


 alas with my current version (6.21), it still spreads clock items
 everywhere. Is it something known ? Should I update my orgmode
 copy ?

I also have org-log-into-drawer set to t.  I don't remember this
functionality changing recently.  Try restarting your emacs and if that
doesn't fix it, upgrade org-mode and retest.  If the problem persists
make a minimal emacs setup that creates the problem and post that so
others can try to duplicate what you are seeing.

Specifying your emacs version might also be helpful.

-Bernt


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Re: [Orgmode] Possible buglet in latex export

2009-08-18 Thread Robert Goldman
Carsten Dominik wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just tried and cannot get it to crash.
 
 Robert, it seems we need, instead of a bug description, a test file,
 with the actual URL you are using.

Right.  I am working on this.  It is only happening to me in beamer,
though, which isn't really supported anyway, so it may not be worth
fixing.

It may have been fixed already as a side effect of my tagging all the
frames in beamer as [fragile].

If I can identify what causes the crashing, I will submit a better test
case.

best,
Robert
 
 - Carsten
 
 On Aug 17, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:
 
 Robert Goldman rpgold...@sift.info wrote:

 I am not exactly sure why the un-protected URL causes problems for me
 and not for Nick.  However, I am trying to generate latex for beamer,
 which seems very tricky, and perhaps that's what's going wrong here ---
 I'm getting beamer's internal state messed up.  I'm not sure; will
 report if I can disentangle it.


 Maybe it's the details of the URL that matter? I tried exporting the
 little example that I posted to beamer and that also worked. If you have
 not tried my example already, maybe you should: it may be that my
 example is *too* simple - in which case, can you post a URL that is
 giving
 you trouble?

 Thanks,
 Nick

 PS. For the record, here's the version of hyperref I'm using:

 Package: hyperref 2007/02/07 v6.75r Hypertext links for LaTeX


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[Orgmode] Re: TODO keywords into drawers ?

2009-08-18 Thread Matt Lundin
Xavier Maillard x...@gnu.org writes:

 I extensively use remember to jot down new tasks/notes/... it
 feets perfectly since it is almost instantaneous.

 Sometimes, when at work, someone enters my room to speak about a
 project. When finished, I fire remember and try to sum up our
 discussion. This is not really a task to do but when reviewing my
 notes, it can be switched to a task entry.

 With my current setup, I have to differenciate, when in remember,
 if it is a task, a note or something else. If I do not, I do not
 see these entries when reviewing my org files. This is the big
 hole in my system which makes me not trust my system :/

As Carsten suggested, tags are probably the best way to mark tasks in
the way you suggest. Org-remember can be instructed (via templates) to
prompt for tags:

,
| %^g prompt for tags, with completion on tags in target file.
| %^G prompt for tags, with completion all tags in all agenda files.
`

Or, if you prefer, you could create different templates for different
tags (:NOTE:, :UNKNOWN:, etc.).

Another recommendation would be to instruct remember to file new notes
to a single location (e.g., inbox.org or * inbox). You could then
regularly review/process/empty this inbox. That way you'd be sure not
to miss any new notes.

 What I'd like to have in orgmode is a simpler and homogeneous way
 to do things.

 * TODO foo bar

 would be

 * foo bar
 :TYPE:
  TODO
 :END:

 a note would be

 * foo bar
 :TYPE:
 NOTE
 :END:

 etc.

 A default entry would have a special entry type -say UNKNOWN-
 thus making the review much more trustable. What I like in this
 idea is the homegenous view of any orgmode file and I guess this
 would make orgmode file parsing a lot easier.

 We could even go further by storing all orgmode entries meta-data
 into drawers (tags, timestamps, states, ...)

If you want to avoid todos and tags, you can always use PROPERTY drawers
for custom metadata.

E.g.

 * foo bar
  :PROPERTIES:
  :TYPE: note
  :END:

And, of course, you can have remember templates prompt you to fill these
in.  

,
| %^{prop}p   Prompt the user for a value for property prop
`

Warning: it can be much slower to search for properties than to search
for todo-states and tags.

Best,
Matt


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[Orgmode] How to measure a project's %complete?

2009-08-18 Thread Christopher DeMarco
Hi all...

I like to use checkboxes with the magic cookies to track my progress
through something complex.  This works nicely for a single TODO
composed of multiple little steps; is something similar possible for a
hierarchy of TODO items?  I.e. (assume DONE, PROJECT and TODO
are defined as state keywords):

* PROJECT Overhaul personal productivity [50%]
** DONE Clean my desk
** TODO Learn Org

I've tried this using plain lists, but they seem to be incompatible
with state keywords, and likewise checkboxes don't work with outline
levels.

It's not a showstopper, but it would be nice to be able to
automagically evaluate how far along the path a particular PROJECT is,
based upon its constituents' state.

Thanks in advance!


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[Orgmode] Re: How to measure a project's %complete?

2009-08-18 Thread Bernt Hansen
Christopher DeMarco dema...@maya.com writes:

 Hi all...

 I like to use checkboxes with the magic cookies to track my progress
 through something complex.  This works nicely for a single TODO
 composed of multiple little steps; is something similar possible for a
 hierarchy of TODO items?  I.e. (assume DONE, PROJECT and TODO
 are defined as state keywords):

 * PROJECT Overhaul personal productivity [50%]
 ** DONE Clean my desk
 ** TODO Learn Org

 I've tried this using plain lists, but they seem to be incompatible
 with state keywords, and likewise checkboxes don't work with outline
 levels.

 It's not a showstopper, but it would be nice to be able to
 automagically evaluate how far along the path a particular PROJECT is,
 based upon its constituents' state.

 Thanks in advance!

This already works.

,[ x.org ]
| 
| * Test [1/2] [50%]
| ** DONE Clean my desk
|CLOSED: [2009-08-18 Tue 09:33]
|:LOGBOOK:
|- State DONE   from TODO   [2009-08-18 Tue 09:33]
|:END:
| ** TODO Learn Org
`

-Bernt


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[Orgmode] Re: How to measure a project's %complete?

2009-08-18 Thread Benjamin Andresen
Hey Christopher,

Christopher DeMarco dema...@maya.com writes:

 * PROJECT Overhaul personal productivity [50%]
 ** DONE Clean my desk
 ** TODO Learn Org

I copied exactly those 3 lines and put them in foo.bar and pressed C-c
C-t on Learn Org and the [50%] became [100%]

If this doesn't work for you, you might not be on the latest
org-version. The one bundled with emacs23 should definitely be able to
do it.

 Thanks in advance!

HTH,
benny


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[Orgmode] Re: How to measure a project's %complete?

2009-08-18 Thread Christopher DeMarco
On Tue Aug 18 09:34:42 2009 -0400, Bernt Hansen wrote:

 This already works.

Well I'll be...

Thanks!


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[Orgmode] Re: How to measure a project's %complete?

2009-08-18 Thread Bernt Hansen
Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca writes:

 Christopher DeMarco dema...@maya.com writes:

 Hi all...

 I like to use checkboxes with the magic cookies to track my progress
 through something complex.  This works nicely for a single TODO
 composed of multiple little steps; is something similar possible for a
 hierarchy of TODO items?  I.e. (assume DONE, PROJECT and TODO
 are defined as state keywords):

 * PROJECT Overhaul personal productivity [50%]
 ** DONE Clean my desk
 ** TODO Learn Org

 I've tried this using plain lists, but they seem to be incompatible
 with state keywords, and likewise checkboxes don't work with outline
 levels.

 It's not a showstopper, but it would be nice to be able to
 automagically evaluate how far along the path a particular PROJECT is,
 based upon its constituents' state.

 Thanks in advance!

 This already works.

 ,[ x.org ]
 | 
 | * Test [1/2] [50%]
 | ** DONE Clean my desk
 |CLOSED: [2009-08-18 Tue 09:33]
 |:LOGBOOK:
 |- State DONE   from TODO   [2009-08-18 Tue 09:33]
 |:END:
 | ** TODO Learn Org
 `

Or maybe I jumped the gun a bit here.  It works for the first level of
hierarchy similar to the way lists work.  The level 1 task only counts
level 2 items.  You can have separate cookies on the level 2 tasks which
count the level 3 subtasks etc.

There is no way to count all of the items in the subtree AFAIK.

i.e.  This is not currently possible

* PROJECT Test [0/10]  -- this cookie would say [0/6] not [0/10]
** TODO Step 1 (1)
** TODO Step 2 (2)
** TODO Step 3 (3)
** TODO Step 4 (4)
*** TODO Step 5 (4.1)
*** TODO Step 6 (4.2)
*** TODO Step 7 (4.3)
** TODO Step 8 (5)
** TODO Step 9 (6)
*** TODO Step 10 (6.1)

-Bernt


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Re: [Orgmode] Is this a good feature to have?

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Aug 17, 2009, at 12:25 AM, Leo wrote:


Hi all,

Remember is a convenient tool for collecting tasks. However I always
feel it can be more flexible in someway since I started using it  
quite a

while ago. So I have the following proposal.

1. Add a key C-c i char for each %char in the *Remember* buffer.  
For

  example, `C-c i a' shall toggle the insertion of the annotation.

2. Add a new syntax to %char as a placeholder for the corresponding
  C-c i char. For example, %a can be used in a template to  
indicate

  the place to insert annotation when pressing `C-c i a'. if no
  placeholder is indicated in the template, then `C-c i a' insert the
  annotation in current place.

This proposal is to eliminate the need to define multiple similar
templates. For example, one with annotation and another without, or  
one

with clipboard and another without.


Hmmm, maybe it would be better to just make something like %a? and
make that prompt a y-or-no question to insert the annotation or not... ?

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[Orgmode] Re: How to measure a project's %complete?

2009-08-18 Thread Christopher DeMarco
On Tue Aug 18 09:43:25 2009 -0400, Bernt Hansen wrote:
 Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca writes:

 Or maybe I jumped the gun a bit here.  It works for the first level of
 hierarchy similar to the way lists work.  The level 1 task only counts
 level 2 items.  You can have separate cookies on the level 2 tasks which
 count the level 3 subtasks etc.
 
 There is no way to count all of the items in the subtree AFAIK.

Yeah, I was fiddling with that as well.  And as far as I can tell,
org-hierarchical-checkbox-statistics doesn't work for this case the
way that it does for checklists.  

I think I can workaround this by making my planning clearer and not
hiding assumptions in structural complexity :-)


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: How to measure a project's %complete?

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Aug 18, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Christopher DeMarco wrote:


On Tue Aug 18 09:43:25 2009 -0400, Bernt Hansen wrote:

Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca writes:


Or maybe I jumped the gun a bit here.  It works for the first level  
of
hierarchy similar to the way lists work.  The level 1 task only  
counts
level 2 items.  You can have separate cookies on the level 2 tasks  
which

count the level 3 subtasks etc.

There is no way to count all of the items in the subtree AFAIK.


Yeah, I was fiddling with that as well.  And as far as I can tell,
org-hierarchical-checkbox-statistics doesn't work for this case the
way that it does for checklists.


Wow, you found that undocumented variable?  Nice.
From there it is not far to find the corresponding variable
for TODO statistics  Can you guess the name? :-)

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[Orgmode] Viewing org Files on Your Phone

2009-08-18 Thread Ian Barton
I know this has been discussed on the list before, but I recently 
discovered another way to do this. Many moons ago, back in my days of 
using Palm Pilots, I used iSilo to read documents on my Palm.


It appears that iSilo is now available for most mobile phone platforms 
(http://www.isilo.com). There is a command line converter (iSiloX) for 
turning html and text into iSilo documents.


I have just tried it out on the html version of my org files and it 
seems to work very well.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: How to measure a project's %complete?

2009-08-18 Thread Christopher DeMarco
On Tue Aug 18 15:34:51 2009 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 Wow, you found that undocumented variable?  Nice.

Nice++ would be my submitting patches to the Info :-)


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: org-link-mode ...

2009-08-18 Thread Bastien
Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes:

 Not sure if this is apropos to this conversation, but I've been thinking
 for some time that it would be useful to have a minor mode which would
 activate org-style links in non-org files.  For example if an org link
 in the comment section of a source-code document could be highlighted
 and activated so that the C-c C-o keybinding can be used to follow said
 link. -- Eric

Now I understand.  Maybe someone can grab some code from Org and try to
write a minimal implementation of this.

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Re: [Orgmode] Customizing LaTeX export (Org Format Latex Header)

2009-08-18 Thread Bastien
Charles Howard terminalbeach...@googlemail.com writes:

 Hi. I'm still failing to understand how to customize latex export.

I think you are looking for `org-export-latex-classes'.

 This already seems strange because when I go to org-customize in emacs
 what I see in Org Format Latex Header, in lisp is

`org-format-latex-header' is for processing LaTeX fragments, that's why
it's in org.el rather than in org-latex.el.   For LaTeX export options,
better check the Org LaTeX group in customize:

M-x customize-group RET org-latex RET

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Re: [Orgmode] odt2org

2009-08-18 Thread Bastien
José María García Pérez josemaria.alk...@gmail.com writes:

 Please don't blame since I am not a developer (I did what I could). I have not
 tested it much (I did it on windows, not in linux).

 The link for the software:
 http://mantiel.wikidot.com/os:odt2org

Hey, that looks great.  I wanted to test it under GNU/Linux (debian) but
the installation of the lxml library is not straightforward:

  http://codespeak.net/lxml/installation.html

Did anyone successfully installed/tested José converter under GNU/Linux?

Thanks!

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Re: [Orgmode] Viewing org Files on Your Phone

2009-08-18 Thread Bastien
Hi Ian,

this is interesting.  I think Worg should have a page for documenting
anything about Org-on-mobile, as this has been discussed in many ways
over the last couple of years.  

Would you like to start feeding such a page?

If yes, either send me your username on repo.or.cz or send a .org draft
for such a page, worgers will then take care of improving it.

Thanks!

Ian Barton li...@manor-farm.org writes:

 I know this has been discussed on the list before, but I recently
 discovered another way to do this. Many moons ago, back in my days of
 using Palm Pilots, I used iSilo to read documents on my Palm.

 It appears that iSilo is now available for most mobile phone platforms
 (http://www.isilo.com). There is a command line converter (iSiloX) for
 turning html and text into iSilo documents.

 I have just tried it out on the html version of my org files and it
 seems to work very well.

 Ian.

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[Orgmode] variable to publish .org source with project

2009-08-18 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi List,

I believe that the following has been discussed in the mailing list
fairly recently but for the life of me I can't find any information in
the list archives or in the documentation, so here goes...

Is there a variable or setting which will enable the publishing of .org
source files alongside the generated .html files when I publish a series
of pages to the web using org-publish-project?

Thanks -- Eric


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[Orgmode] [PATCH 0/2] Teach org-version to include git version information

2009-08-18 Thread Bernt Hansen
This series teaches org-version to include the git version number
information from git describe when running org-mode from a git repository.

The version is reported as dirty if tracked files are modified.

This series is available at git://git.norang.ca/org-mode for-carsten

Bernt Hansen (2):
  Add git version number to org-version information
  Add .dirty to git org-version info if files are modified

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[Orgmode] [PATCH 2/2] Add .dirty to git org-version info if files are modified

2009-08-18 Thread Bernt Hansen
Shows files as modified by appending .dirty to indicate that
you are running org-mode from a dirty working tree (some tracked
files are modified)
---
 lisp/org.el |7 ++-
 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 3560a50..26b2808 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -103,6 +103,7 @@
 With prefix arg HERE, insert it at point.
   (interactive P)
   (let* ((org-version org-version)
+(git-version)
 (dir (concat (file-name-directory (locate-library org)) ../ )))
 (if (file-exists-p (expand-file-name .git dir))
(progn
@@ -113,7 +114,11 @@ With prefix arg HERE, insert it at point.
   (replace-regexp - .)
   (goto-char (point-min))
   (re-search-forward [^\n]+)
-  (setq org-version (concat org-version  ( (match-string 0) ))
+  (setq git-version (match-string 0))
+  (shell-command (concat cd  dir   git diff-index --name-only 
HEAD --))
+  (unless (eql 1 (point-max))
+(setq git-version (concat git-version .dirty)))
+  (setq org-version (concat org-version  ( git-version ))
 (let ((version (format Org-mode version %s org-version)))
   (message version)
   (if here
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[Orgmode] [PATCH 1/2] Add git version number to org-version information

2009-08-18 Thread Bernt Hansen
Adds the output of 'git describe' to the org-version string if we are running
from a git repository.  This identifies exactly what commit is checked out in
the org-mode git repository when reporting the org-mode version number.

org-version returns something like:

Org-mode version 6.29trans (release_6.29c.42.g5996)

which shows 6.29trans (somewhere after the last release tag) which
is 42 commits after release_6.29c at git commit 5996.

The git describe information is not included if org mode is not
running from a git repository.
---
 lisp/org.el |   20 
 1 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index b9f4229..3560a50 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -102,10 +102,22 @@
   Show the org-mode version in the echo area.
 With prefix arg HERE, insert it at point.
   (interactive P)
-  (let ((version (format Org-mode version %s org-version)))
-(message version)
-(if here
-   (insert version
+  (let* ((org-version org-version)
+(dir (concat (file-name-directory (locate-library org)) ../ )))
+(if (file-exists-p (expand-file-name .git dir))
+   (progn
+(shell-command (concat cd  dir   git describe --abbrev=4 HEAD))
+(save-excursion
+  (set-buffer *Shell Command Output*)
+  (goto-char (point-min))
+  (replace-regexp - .)
+  (goto-char (point-min))
+  (re-search-forward [^\n]+)
+  (setq org-version (concat org-version  ( (match-string 0) ))
+(let ((version (format Org-mode version %s org-version)))
+  (message version)
+  (if here
+ (insert version)
 
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[Orgmode] Re: Is this a bug in orgstruct-mode

2009-08-18 Thread Leo

Any comment on this bug?

On 2009-08-16 12:02 +0100, Leo wrote:
 Hi Carsten,

 I find the following M-RET behaviour a bit strange.

 For example, in an empty buffer with orgstruct-mode on. A list like this
 can be created with 1 at the beginning of buffer and using M-RET to
 insert the second item.
 
 1. one
 2. two

 However, if there is an empty line preceding '1. one', M-RET also
 inserts a blank line between items, like this:
 

 1. one

 2. two

 Do you know if this is a bug?

 [Tested in GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-apple-darwin9.8.0, NS
 apple-appkit-949.54) of 2009-08-10]

 Best wishes,

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[Orgmode] Re: variable to publish .org source with project

2009-08-18 Thread Eric Schulte
Exactly what I was after! Thanks -- Eric

Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca writes:

 Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes:

 Is there a variable or setting which will enable the publishing of .org
 source files alongside the generated .html files when I publish a series
 of pages to the web using org-publish-project?

 Yes :)

 I have the following in my org-publish-project-alist

  :publishing-function (org-publish-org-to-html 
 org-publish-org-to-org)

 The org-publish-org-to-org generates two files - a .org.html which is
 org source with colouring and the .org.org file which is RAW.

 Both of these files have subtrees marked with noexport stripped out of
 them.

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Re: [Orgmode] odt2org

2009-08-18 Thread Nick Dokos
Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Jose Maria Garcia Perez josemaria.alk...@gmail.com writes:
 
  Please don't blame since I am not a developer (I did what I could). I have 
  not
  tested it much (I did it on windows, not in linux).
 
  The link for the software:
  http://mantiel.wikidot.com/os:odt2org
 
 Hey, that looks great.  I wanted to test it under GNU/Linux (debian) but
 the installation of the lxml library is not straightforward:
 
   http://codespeak.net/lxml/installation.html
 
 Did anyone successfully installed/tested Jose's converter under GNU/Linux?
 

Running on Ubuntu 8.04: I used synaptic to install lxml with no problems
(presumably you can do the same thing from debian using apt and get the
.deb from some ubuntu repository). I also needed to install
OleFileIO_PL:

$ odt2org.py -i fax_1.odt -o fax1.org
ERROR: install OleFileIO_PL: 
http://www.decalage.info/files/OleFileIO_PL-0.18.zip


That was a straight python library install: unzip and run ``sudo python
setup.py install''.  After that, I tried it on a fax cover sheet that I
just happened to have (I don't do odt so I don't have much lying around)
and after I got the following error, I tried it on a simple document
that I created: a title and a couple of bullets - I got the same error:

 
$ odt2org.py -i fax_1.odt -o fax_1.org
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /home/nick/bin/odt2org.py, line 446, in module
_oo.exportToORG()
  File /home/nick/bin/odt2org.py, line 376, in exportToORG
_output = self.__processText__()
  File /home/nick/bin/odt2org.py, line 174, in __processText__
_tmp = self.__processParagraph__(_child)
  File /home/nick/bin/odt2org.py, line 200, in __processParagraph__
for _i in _para.itertext():
AttributeError: 'etree._Element' object has no attribute 'itertext'

If you want to send me an odt document, I can try it out, but otherwise
I give up :-)

HTH,
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Is this a bug in orgstruct-mode

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Leo,

this is actually in the FAQ:

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.php#blank-line-after-headlines-and-list-items

- Carsten

On Aug 18, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Leo wrote:



Any comment on this bug?

On 2009-08-16 12:02 +0100, Leo wrote:

Hi Carsten,

I find the following M-RET behaviour a bit strange.

For example, in an empty buffer with orgstruct-mode on. A list like  
this

can be created with 1 at the beginning of buffer and using M-RET to
insert the second item.

1. one
2. two

However, if there is an empty line preceding '1. one', M-RET also
inserts a blank line between items, like this:


1. one

2. two

Do you know if this is a bug?

[Tested in GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-apple-darwin9.8.0, NS
apple-appkit-949.54) of 2009-08-10]

Best wishes,

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Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH 0/2] Teach org-version to include git version information

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik

Awesome!

I had meant to ask you for this change.

THanks!

- Carsten

On Aug 18, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:


This series teaches org-version to include the git version number
information from git describe when running org-mode from a git  
repository.


The version is reported as dirty if tracked files are modified.

This series is available at git://git.norang.ca/org-mode for-carsten

Bernt Hansen (2):
 Add git version number to org-version information
 Add .dirty to git org-version info if files are modified

lisp/org.el |   25 +
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Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH 0/2] Teach org-version to include git version information

2009-08-18 Thread Bernt Hansen
I don't know if that will work on Windows (with git).  I've only tested
it on Linux here.  You may want to test drive it before including it.

-Bernt


Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:

 Awesome!

 I had meant to ask you for this change.

 THanks!

 - Carsten

 On Aug 18, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:

 This series teaches org-version to include the git version number
 information from git describe when running org-mode from a git
 repository.

 The version is reported as dirty if tracked files are modified.

 This series is available at git://git.norang.ca/org-mode for-carsten

 Bernt Hansen (2):
  Add git version number to org-version information
  Add .dirty to git org-version info if files are modified

 lisp/org.el |   25 +
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Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH 0/2] Teach org-version to include git version information

2009-08-18 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:

I don't know if that will work on Windows (with git).  I've only  
tested

it on Linux here.  You may want to test drive it before including it.


I have already included it, please test

M-x org-version

on your system and let me know if it causes problems anywhere.

- Carsten




-Bernt


Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:


Awesome!

I had meant to ask you for this change.

THanks!

- Carsten

On Aug 18, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:


This series teaches org-version to include the git version number
information from git describe when running org-mode from a git
repository.

The version is reported as dirty if tracked files are modified.

This series is available at git://git.norang.ca/org-mode for-carsten

Bernt Hansen (2):
Add git version number to org-version information
Add .dirty to git org-version info if files are modified

lisp/org.el |   25 +
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Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH 0/2] Teach org-version to include git version information

2009-08-18 Thread Stefan Vollmar

Dear Carsten,
dear Bernt,

On 18.08.2009, at 21:15, Carsten Dominik wrote:


On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:

I don't know if that will work on Windows (with git).  I've only  
tested

it on Linux here.  You may want to test drive it before including it.


I have already included it, please test

M-x org-version

on your system and let me know if it causes problems anywhere.


I just did a make update on MacOS X 10.5.8 and M-x org-version in  
Aquamacs 2.0pr2 now yields: release_6.29c.44.ga32e.dirty (my  
Makefile contains a path modification), according to Bernt's comment  
of commit a5e87a47230030ab4c4bc4521f5af47a7521243a, 44 refers to 44  
commits after release_6.29c (neat!). What is the meaning of ga32e?


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[Orgmode] Well something is wrong...

2009-08-18 Thread Bernt Hansen
Hi Carsten,

All of a sudden running org-remember takes 50+ seconds after selecting
the template before it responds.  If I try to interrupt it (enter
debugger on Quit) emacs exits.  Restarting emacs doesn't fix anything.
It's not a cpu loop it's just 'stuck'.

I haven't been able to bisect this yet to figure out if it's a recent
commit or some of my data or what is going on.

Essentially org-remember is broken for me right now because it's too
slow.

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[Orgmode] Re: [PATCH 0/2] Teach org-version to include git version information

2009-08-18 Thread Bernt Hansen
Stefan Vollmar voll...@nf.mpg.de writes:

 Dear Carsten,
 dear Bernt,

 On 18.08.2009, at 21:15, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:

 I don't know if that will work on Windows (with git).  I've only
 tested
 it on Linux here.  You may want to test drive it before including it.

 I have already included it, please test

 M-x org-version

 on your system and let me know if it causes problems anywhere.

 I just did a make update on MacOS X 10.5.8 and M-x org-version in
 Aquamacs 2.0pr2 now yields: release_6.29c.44.ga32e.dirty (my
 Makefile contains a path modification), according to Bernt's comment
 of commit a5e87a47230030ab4c4bc4521f5af47a7521243a, 44 refers to 44
 commits after release_6.29c (neat!). What is the meaning of ga32e?

ga32e - the g stands for 'git' and a32e is the first 4 digits of the
SHA1 for that commit.

git show a32e

will show that commit.

The last part of that comment talks about the ga32e part.

,
| Org-mode version 6.29trans (release_6.29c.42.g5996)
| 
| which shows 6.29trans (somewhere after the last release tag) which
| is 42 commits after release_6.29c at git commit 5996.
`

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[Orgmode] Re: [PATCH 0/2] Teach org-version to include git version information

2009-08-18 Thread Stefan Vollmar

Dear Bernt,

On 18.08.2009, at 21:44, Bernt Hansen wrote:


I just did a make update on MacOS X 10.5.8 and M-x org-version in
Aquamacs 2.0pr2 now yields: release_6.29c.44.ga32e.dirty (my
Makefile contains a path modification), according to Bernt's comment
of commit a5e87a47230030ab4c4bc4521f5af47a7521243a, 44 refers to 44
commits after release_6.29c (neat!). What is the meaning of  
ga32e?


ga32e - the g stands for 'git' and a32e is the first 4 digits of the
SHA1 for that commit.



excellent, thanks!
Warm regards,
 Stefan
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Re: [Orgmode] Well something is wrong...

2009-08-18 Thread Nick Dokos
Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote:

 Hi Carsten,
 
 All of a sudden running org-remember takes 50+ seconds after selecting
 the template before it responds.  If I try to interrupt it (enter
 debugger on Quit) emacs exits.  Restarting emacs doesn't fix anything.
 It's not a cpu loop it's just 'stuck'.
 
 I haven't been able to bisect this yet to figure out if it's a recent
 commit or some of my data or what is going on.
 
 Essentially org-remember is broken for me right now because it's too
 slow.
 

Bernt,

I just pulled:

  Org-mode version 6.29trans (release_6.29c.44.ga32e)
  GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.9) of 2009-08-09 on 
gamaville.dokosmarshall.org
  Linux alphaville.usa.hp.com 2.6.24-24-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 24 22:46:06 UTC 
2009 i686 GNU/Linux

and org-remember does not exhibit any slowness for me.

HTH,
Nick


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Re: [Orgmode] Well something is wrong...

2009-08-18 Thread Bernt Hansen
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:

 Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote:

 Hi Carsten,
 
 All of a sudden running org-remember takes 50+ seconds after selecting
 the template before it responds.  If I try to interrupt it (enter
 debugger on Quit) emacs exits.  Restarting emacs doesn't fix anything.
 It's not a cpu loop it's just 'stuck'.
 
 I haven't been able to bisect this yet to figure out if it's a recent
 commit or some of my data or what is going on.
 
 Essentially org-remember is broken for me right now because it's too
 slow.
 

 Bernt,

 I just pulled:

   Org-mode version 6.29trans (release_6.29c.44.ga32e)
   GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.9) of 2009-08-09 
 on gamaville.dokosmarshall.org
   Linux alphaville.usa.hp.com 2.6.24-24-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 24 22:46:06 
 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

 and org-remember does not exhibit any slowness for me.

 HTH,
 Nick

Thanks.  Now it's fine for me too.  I'm confused but glad that it's not
slow anymore :)

-Bernt


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[Orgmode] Re: Is this a bug in orgstruct-mode

2009-08-18 Thread Leo
On 2009-08-18 19:59 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote:
 Hi Leo,

 this is actually in the FAQ:

 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.php#blank-line-after-headlines-and-list-items

 - Carsten

The bug I am reporting is that when there is a blank line preceding the
FIRST heading or list item, the second one will have a blank line. The
FAQ seems to address when there is a blank line preceding the second
heading or list item, the third one will have a blank line. The
behaviour in the FAQ is smart and desirable.

In my view the blank line preceding the FIRST heading or list item is
not part of that heading or list item and base behaviour on that is
wrong.

Do you still think this is a non-bug?

Thanks.

Leo

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[Orgmode] Why does open time still show?

2009-08-18 Thread David A. Gershman

Hi All,

I have my agenda as:

Tuesday18 August 2009
[...removed for simplicity...]
  reference:  19:25-19:40 Stuff
  reference:  19:40-20:00 Stuff
  20:00.. 
  reference:  21:00-21:45 Stuff
  reference:  21:45-22:00 Stuff
  dag:22:00-23:00 Stuff
  22:00.. 
  reference:  23:00-23:30 Stuff
  reference:  23:30-23:45 Stuff

As you can see there is nothing from 20:00-21:00 so I have the
'' marker.  But why does the marker still show up for 22:00
even though I have 'Stuff' set for 22:00-23:00?

Thanks.

David A. Gershman
gersh...@dagertech.net
http://dagertech.net/gershman/
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[Orgmode] Custom agenda question

2009-08-18 Thread Anthony Fairchild
Hi,

Is there a way to get the text underneath a todo heading to show up in the
agenda screen?  I like to put extra info there, like driving directions, and
it would be nice to have that info when I print out the agenda.

Here is an example:

*** TODO Potluck at Sally's   :next:
Drive north on 405
Turn left at the barn
Blah blah blah, more stuff I want  to include

And my custom agenda currently looks like this:

(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((p Print List
 ((tags-todo NEXT ((org-agenda-prefix-format [ ] %T: )
 (org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(tag-up
priority-down))
 (org-agenda-todo-keyword-format )
 (org-agenda-overriding-header \nNext
Actions\n--\n)))
  (tags-todo buy ((org-agenda-prefix-format [ ] %T: )
(org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(tag-up
priority-down))
(org-agenda-todo-keyword-format )
(org-agenda-overriding-header \nShopping
List\n--\n
 ((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(priority-down))
  (org-agenda-with-colors nil)
  (org-agenda-todo-keyword-format )
  (org-agenda-compact-blocks t)
  (org-agenda-remove-tags t)
  (ps-number-of-columns 2)
  (ps-landscape-mode t)


Thanks!

Anthony
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Re: [Orgmode] org agenda search goes to wrong target location

2009-08-18 Thread Samuel Wales
Another bug, probably unrelated, is that if the outline buffer is
nonexistent and you RET on an agenda line, you get wrong type argument
integer of marker p, nil.

  goto-char(nil)
  (let* ((marker ...) (buffer ...) (pos ...)) (switch-to-buffer
buffer) (and delete-other-windows (delete-other-windows)) (widen)
(goto-char pos) (when (org-mode-p) (org-show-context ...)
(save-excursion ...)))
  org-agenda-switch-to()
  call-interactively(org-agenda-switch-to)

Perhaps it could be fixed by loading the file?  Or is the agenda
buffer useless when the buffer is not there?

Thanks.


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