[Orgmode] Blog posts about Org-mode
Hi everyone, I have started a new page on Worg which aggregates links to Blog posts about Org-mode: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-blog-articles.php There is a lot of interesting stuff in these posts. If you know other Blog posts which are interesting in this context, please add them or at least tell us about them so that someone can add them. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Blog posts about Org-mode
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: links to Blog posts about Org-mode: Manoj Srivastava [[http://www.golden-gryphon.com/blog/manoj/blog/2008/06/08/Using_org-mode_with_Ikiwiki/][Using org-mode with Ikiwiki]] Giovanni P.S.(joke) on Tue Nov 3 08:12:42 2009 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: in my GTD implementation, I also have now an integration between Mutt and Emacs' Org mode that enables me to put from Org notes links to Mutt emails. I'll blog about that separately, [...] I've already posted the relevant code to the Org mode mailing list. Stefano, we're waiting ;-) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Blog posts about Org-mode
On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: links to Blog posts about Org-mode: Manoj Srivastava [[http://www.golden-gryphon.com/blog/manoj/blog/2008/06/08/Using_org-mode_with_Ikiwiki/ ][Using org-mode with Ikiwiki]] Giovanni Will you add this to WOrg? - Carsten P.S.(joke) on Tue Nov 3 08:12:42 2009 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: in my GTD implementation, I also have now an integration between Mutt and Emacs' Org mode that enables me to put from Org notes links to Mutt emails. I'll blog about that separately, [...] I've already posted the relevant code to the Org mode mailing list. Stefano, we're waiting ;-) - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] org-indent-mode + word wrap
Hi Christer, On Jan 25, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Christer Enfors wrote: I'm having problems with word wrapping when using org-indent-mode and word wrapping. The text is wrapped beyond the right side of my 80-column window, once I get a few levels of indentation. This is right, this is one of the draw-back currently in using org- indent-mode. I am solving it by making my window a bit wider... :-) So I checked the manual to make sure I was doing everything correctly, and the manual says I need emacs version 23.1.50.6 or newer for org-indent-mode. Apparently, I'm using (GNU) emacs version 23.1.3, so I guess my emacs is too old. But when I check the GNU ftp server, I see nothing newer than emacs 23.1. What's going on? Is 23.1.50.6 a beta version, or something? Indeed, there is no Emacs *release* where org-indent-mode runs stably. It will run stably in 23.2. Emacs before the given version will actually *crash* when using org- indent-mode and folding everything up. This is unrelated to the wrapping problem you mentioned. HTH - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] org-clock mode-line format configuration
Dear orgmode dev team: When the clock is started on an item, the item is shown on the mode line. But the string on the mode line just shows the raw string of the item, so sometimes it looks ugly when it contains a link. So I suggest to make it customizable, or to vanish the link string, e.g. using (replace-regexp-in-string \\[\\[.*\\]\\[\\(.*\\)\\]\\] \\1 str) Sincerely, Kiwon Um ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Make archived headers unavailable as refile targets?
On Jan 25, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Paul Mead wrote: Hi Is there any way of excluding archived headers as refile targets? I'd like to restrict refiling to those projects which are current. Take a look at the variable `org-refile-target-verify-function'. HTH - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Blog posts about Org-mode
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: links to Blog posts about Org-mode: Manoj Srivastava [[http://www.golden-gryphon.com/blog/manoj/blog/2008/06/08/Using_org-mode_with_Ikiwiki/ ][Using org-mode with Ikiwiki]] Giovanni Will you add this to WOrg? Carsten, I can't: I haven't my account on worg, yet; and also I haven't installed git, yes :-/ cheers, Giovanni ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Blog posts about Org-mode
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:02:48PM +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote:
P.S.(joke)
on Tue Nov 3 08:12:42 2009 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
in my GTD implementation, I also have now an integration between Mutt
and Emacs' Org mode that enables me to put from Org notes links
to Mutt
emails. I'll blog about that separately, [...]
I've already posted the relevant code to the Org mode mailing list.
Stefano, we're waiting ;-)
Eh, I know :-)
But recently I've stumbled upon a dumb environment issue that I haven't
been able to solve yet. Namely if I run my main Emacs (server) inside
GNOME, but *not* from a terminal, I got a stripped down environment
which misses some variables that are needed to make Mutt work as I
need. It all works well if I run my main Emacs server from a terminal,
but that is a suboptimal solution.
There are still some aspects that I need to flesh out before being able
to blog about that. But don't worry, I haven't given up :)
Cheers.
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Re: [Orgmode] Blog posts about Org-mode
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: Carsten Dominik writes: On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: Carsten Dominik writes: links to Blog posts about Org-mode: Manoj Srivastava [[http://www.golden-gryphon.com/blog/manoj/blog/2008/06/08/Using_org-mode_with_Ikiwiki/ ][Using org-mode with Ikiwiki]] Giovanni Will you add this to WOrg? Carsten, I can't: I haven't my account on worg, yet; and also I haven't installed git, yes :-/ no problem. i added the link to worg. thanks -- manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] org-clock mode-line format configuration
+1 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Kiwon Um wrote: Dear orgmode dev team: When the clock is started on an item, the item is shown on the mode line. But the string on the mode line just shows the raw string of the item, so sometimes it looks ugly when it contains a link. So I suggest to make it customizable, or to vanish the link string, e.g. using (replace-regexp-in-string \\[\\[.*\\]\\[\\(.*\\)\\]\\] \\1 str) Sincerely, Kiwon Um ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] List number resetting when using anchor tag in exported HTML
I came across an odd behavior while using org-mode to create some web pages where list numbers get reset if you insert anchor tags. Consider the following example document: * This is the first header line 1. This is line number 1 2. This is line number 2 3. This is line number 3 #Anchor1 1. This should be line number 4, but is reset by the anchor tag 2. This should be line number 5. * This is the second header line 1. This is line number 1 2. This is line number 2 3. This is line number 3 #+BEGIN_HTML a name='anchor2' #+END_HTML 1. This stays line number 4 2. This stays line number 5 The numbers associated with the list items are the numbers created as new items are added automatically with ALT-ENTER. After the #Anchor1 entry and the #+END_HTML, doing the Alt-Enter starts the list number back at 1. However, when this is exported to HTML, something else occurs. In the case of the #Anchor1 entry, the HTML also restarts the list number, whereas with the #+BEGIN_HTML it does not. The generated HTML looks like the below. Notice in the first section the ol tag is closed and the anchor is wrapped with paragraph tags, then ol reopens, so there is a space as well as re-starting number, but in the second case the anchor tag is inline. Further down is the actual generated HTML text. Shouldn't #anchor tags be treated in the same way as BEGIN_HTML/END_HTML? Table of Contents - 1 This is the first header line file:///tmp/burl31927GCc.html#sec-1 - 2 This is the second header line file:///tmp/burl31927GCc.html#sec-2 1 This is the first header line 1. This is line number 1 2. This is line number 2 3. This is line number 3 1. This should be line number 4, but is reset by the anchor tag 2. This should be line number 5. 2 This is the second header line 1. This is line number 1 2. This is line number 2 3. This is line number 3 4. This stays line number 4 5. This stays line number 5 div id=outline-container-1 class=outline-2 h2 id=sec-1span class=section-number-21/span This is the first header line /h2 div class=outline-text-2 id=text-1 ol li This is line number 1 /li li This is line number 2 /li li This is line number 3 /li /ol pa name=Anchor1 id=Anchor1/a /pol li This should be line number 4, but is reset by the anchor tag /li li This should be line number 5. ol /ol /li /ol /div /div div id=outline-container-2 class=outline-2 h2 id=sec-2span class=section-number-22/span This is the second header line /h2 div class=outline-text-2 id=text-2 ol li This is line number 1 /li li This is line number 2 /li li This is line number 3 a name='anchor2' /li li This stays line number 4 /li li This stays line number 5 /li /ol /div /div ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [org-beamer] \alert
Hi Eric and Sven,
Eric S Fraga wrote:
(mistakenly sent this only to the OP... resending to list as well)
At 24 Jan 2010 20:10:03 +0100,
Sven Bretfeld wrote:
Is there any Symbol in org-beamer for \alert{Text}? In presentations \alert
is recommended instead of italics. We could even think of translating text
enclosed in slashes / ... / to \alert{} by default in the beamer class.
Essentially, you can add this functionality yourself:
(setq org-emphasis-alist (quote ((* bold b /b)
(/ italic i /i)
(_ underline span
style=\text-decoration:underline;\ /span)
(= org-code code /code
verbatim)
(~ org-verbatim code /code
verbatim)
(+ (:strike-through t) del
/del)
(@ org-warning b /b)))
org-export-latex-emphasis-alist (quote
((* \\textbf{%s} nil)
(/ \\emph{%s} nil)
(_ \\underline{%s} nil)
(+ \\texttt{%s} nil)
(= \\verb=%s= nil)
(~ \\verb~%s~ t)
(@ \\alert{%s} nil
That's what I'm using as well, but the problem is that it's not compatible
anymore with non-beamer LaTeX, the alert macro being unknown.
Would there be a way to conditionally translate @...@ to alert (if beamer) or
to emph (if not-beamer), so that we can still easily compile a document to one
or the other LaTeX back-end, without having to customize variables in Emacs,
prior to a compilation to the other back-end?
I must admit I do not have clear specifications on how to tell Org about such
a config...
Best regards,
Seb
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Re: [Orgmode] Make archived headers unavailable as refile targets?
2010/1/26 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com: Take a look at the variable `org-refile-target-verify-function'. HTH - Carsten Thanks Carsten, I've had a look at the variable and the customize option for it and I'm afraid I don't understand how to use it for my task. I'm afraid my elisp skills aren't up to much. Do I enter the name of a function and defun it somewhere else? I'm assuming that I write a function which tests whether a headline has an ARCHIVE tag and return nil if that's the case - is that right? Paul ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Make archived headers unavailable as refile targets?
Hi Paul, At Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:18:47 +, Paul Mead wrote: 2010/1/26 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com: Take a look at the variable `org-refile-target-verify-function'. HTH - Carsten Thanks Carsten, I've had a look at the variable and the customize option for it and I'm afraid I don't understand how to use it for my task. I'm afraid my elisp skills aren't up to much. Do I enter the name of a function and defun it somewhere else? Yes, or you use the anonymous lambda declaration. Something like this: (setq org-refile-target-verify-function '(lambda () (if (member org-archive-tag (split-string (or (org-entry-get (point) ALLTAGS) ) :)) nil t))) HTH -- David -- OpenPGP... 0x99ADB83B5A4478E6 Jabber dmj...@jabber.org Email. maus.da...@gmail.com pgpr1NVwsWmBp.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [Worg] Addition to org-hacks: Remove redundant tags
At Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:04:06 +0530, Manish wrote: Applied to Worg. Thanks Ooops, attached patch fixes a small glitch in this function that prevented it working on headlines without tags. -- David -- OpenPGP... 0x99ADB83B5A4478E6 Jabber dmj...@jabber.org Email. maus.da...@gmail.com 0001-fix-small-glitch-in-dmj-org-remove-redundant-tags.patch Description: Binary data pgpRgobgRhal7.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Make archived headers unavailable as refile targets?
Paul Mead paul.d.m...@googlemail.com writes: 2010/1/26 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com: Take a look at the variable `org-refile-target-verify-function'. HTH - Carsten Thanks Carsten, I've had a look at the variable and the customize option for it and I'm afraid I don't understand how to use it for my task. I'm afraid my elisp skills aren't up to much. Do I enter the name of a function and defun it somewhere else? I'm assuming that I write a function which tests whether a headline has an ARCHIVE tag and return nil if that's the case - is that right? There might be easier ways, but as I'm familiarising myself more with elisp, here's one solution: , | (defun org-contains-tag (tag) | (interactive) | (let* ((tagslist (org-split-string (org-get-tags-string) :))) | (if tagslist (or (member tag tagslist) (member (upcase tag) tagslist)) nil))) | | (defun org-not-archived () (not (org-contains-tag archive))) | | (setq org-refile-target-verify-function 'org-not-archived) | | ;; (global-set-key (kbd C-c p) (lambda()(interactive)(message Tag contains %s : %s archive (if (org-contains-tag archive)yes no ` regards r. Paul ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Google Talk : rileyrg...@googlemail.com http://www.google.com/talk ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X vCards / \ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [Worg] Addition to org-hacks: Remove redundant tags
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:52 PM, David Maus wrote: At Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:04:06 +0530, Manish wrote: Applied to Worg. Thanks Ooops, attached patch fixes a small glitch in this function that prevented it working on headlines without tags. Applied to Worg. Thanks -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Make archived headers unavailable as refile targets?
Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes: There might be easier ways, but as I'm familiarising myself more with elisp, here's one solution: Having seen David's solution, I realised the org-archive-tag in your case is better rather than the more general solution I aimed for. So maintaining the general org-contains-tag solution but using the correct tag variable: , | (defun org-not-archived () (not (org-contains-tag org-archive-tag))) ` r. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Dan Davison wrote: andrea writes: I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything Hi Andrea, I've used a single org mode file to keep all my emacs configuration code for the last 5 months or so and I have not had any problems at all. I highly recommend it. I am using a simple set up: My ~/.emacs contains -- (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp) (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp) (require 'org-install) (require 'org-babel-init) (org-babel-load-file ~/config/emacs/emacs.org) -- and all the rest of my emacs config code is in ~/config/emacs/emacs.org This works very nicely. Thank you. I am thinking about making my config a little leaner while I reorganize without affecting functionality I have gotten used to by preventing sections of config from loading. I thought setting :tangle to `no' should help but the default is already `no' and all my config is loaded. How would one go about marking a section of configuration so that it remains in the configuration file but does not get tangled while Emacs boots? Thanks -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: [org-beamer] \alert
At Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:06:27 +0100,
Sébastien Vauban wrote:
Eric S Fraga wrote:
At 24 Jan 2010 20:10:03 +0100,
Sven Bretfeld wrote:
Is there any Symbol in org-beamer for \alert{Text}? In presentations \alert
[...]
org-export-latex-emphasis-alist (quote
((* \\textbf{%s} nil)
(/ \\emph{%s} nil)
(_ \\underline{%s} nil)
(+ \\texttt{%s} nil)
(= \\verb=%s= nil)
(~ \\verb~%s~ t)
(@ \\alert{%s} nil
That's what I'm using as well, but the problem is that it's not compatible
anymore with non-beamer LaTeX, the alert macro being unknown.
Very true. I've never thought about this as my presentations are for
presentation only etc. However, it would definitely be nice to have a
more general solution.
Would there be a way to conditionally translate @...@ to alert (if beamer) or
to emph (if not-beamer), so that we can still easily compile a document to one
or the other LaTeX back-end, without having to customize variables in Emacs,
prior to a compilation to the other back-end?
The alist structure doesn't allow for embedded lisp code, as far as I
can tell. It would obviously be easier if this structure could be
evaluated on the fly.
I must admit I do not have clear specifications on how to tell Org about such
a config...
The only suggestion I can come up with would be to modify this
variable using, for instance, the org-export-later-after-initial-vars-hook?
eric
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Re: [Orgmode] List number resetting when using anchor tag in exported HTML
At Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:59:37 -0500, Jere McDevitt wrote: I came across an odd behavior while using org-mode to create some web pages where list numbers get reset if you insert anchor tags. Consider the following example document: * This is the first header line 1. This is line number 1 2. This is line number 2 3. This is line number 3 #Anchor1 1. This should be line number 4, but is reset by the anchor tag 2. This should be line number 5. [...] The following works just fine (at least for HTML export, not sure about anything else): --8---cut here---start-8--- * This is the first header line 1. This is line number 1 2. This is line number 2 3. This is line number 3 Anchor1 1. This should be line number 4, but is reset by the anchor tag 2. This should be line number 5. --8---cut here---end---8--- Note the indentation in particular. HTH, eric ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Dan Davison wrote: andrea writes: I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything Hi Andrea, I've used a single org mode file to keep all my emacs configuration code for the last 5 months or so and I have not had any problems at all. I highly recommend it. I am using a simple set up: My ~/.emacs contains -- (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp) (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp) (require 'org-install) (require 'org-babel-init) (org-babel-load-file ~/config/emacs/emacs.org) -- and all the rest of my emacs config code is in ~/config/emacs/emacs.org This works very nicely. Thank you. I am thinking about making my config a little leaner while I reorganize without affecting functionality I have gotten used to by preventing sections of config from loading. I thought setting :tangle to `no' should help but the default is already `no' and all my config is loaded. How would one go about marking a section of configuration so that it remains in the configuration file but does not get tangled while Emacs boots? Hi Manish, I think this will require a little development/bug-fixing on my part before it works easily. As I recall the elisp tangling in `org-babel-load-file' is fairly aggressive and may not respect tangle header arguments. But the method you described above (setting the tangle header argument to no -- either in a subtree property or by block) is certainly the correct approach. I'll let you know when I find some time to look into this. Best -- Eric Thanks ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] org-babel and emacs init
Hi Richard, Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes: What approach have you taken to loading multiple files using the org-babel method? The example on the babel page searches out all org files and then untangles the elisp snippets and rewrites files with a .el extensions loading them as it goes. But how to order this or how best to load /decode/execute at run time in say an autoload or eval after load? Simply call org-babel-load-file instead of require? Currently the only option is `org-babel-load-file'. Off the top of my head I don't see why an analogous `org-babel-require' function would not work, and it seems that it would satisfy this need for conditional loading. e.g say I wanted to keep my (typically large) .gnus.el file as an org file. How best to deal with that? Currently I have an eval after load with all the code in that used to be in my .gnus.el in my emacs-init.org. Other approaches? again, maybe using something like the eventually-to-be-implemented org-babel-require would work here? Would there be a way to get the load system to check for an org file first and call org-babel-load-file? I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. Should possibly writing the org file auto create the .el file? Or is that best left to load time? I think this will be more reliable if it is left as a load-time operation, rather than as a save-hook or something. Also, since the file is only re-tangled when the .org file is newer than the .el file it should not be a noticeable startup performance hit. Thanks -- Eric Any opinions or discussions/pointers appreciated. regards, r. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Make archived headers unavailable as refile targets?
Thanks David, I'm going to have to check out the elisp reference and try to understand what you did there! Paul 2010/1/26 David Maus maus.da...@gmail.com: Hi Paul, At Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:18:47 +, Paul Mead wrote: 2010/1/26 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com: Take a look at the variable `org-refile-target-verify-function'. HTH - Carsten Thanks Carsten, I've had a look at the variable and the customize option for it and I'm afraid I don't understand how to use it for my task. I'm afraid my elisp skills aren't up to much. Do I enter the name of a function and defun it somewhere else? Yes, or you use the anonymous lambda declaration. Something like this: (setq org-refile-target-verify-function '(lambda () (if (member org-archive-tag (split-string (or (org-entry-get (point) ALLTAGS) ) :)) nil t))) HTH -- David -- OpenPGP... 0x99ADB83B5A4478E6 Jabber dmj...@jabber.org Email. maus.da...@gmail.com ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: org-babel and emacs init
Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Hi Richard, Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes: What approach have you taken to loading multiple files using the org-babel method? The example on the babel page searches out all org files and then untangles the elisp snippets and rewrites files with a .el extensions loading them as it goes. But how to order this or how best to load /decode/execute at run time in say an autoload or eval after load? Simply call org-babel-load-file instead of require? Currently the only option is `org-babel-load-file'. Off the top of my head I don't see why an analogous `org-babel-require' function would not work, and it seems that it would satisfy this need for conditional loading. e.g say I wanted to keep my (typically large) .gnus.el file as an org file. How best to deal with that? Currently I have an eval after load with all the code in that used to be in my .gnus.el in my emacs-init.org. Other approaches? again, maybe using something like the eventually-to-be-implemented org-babel-require would work here? Would there be a way to get the load system to check for an org file first and call org-babel-load-file? I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. I was thinking of (require 'xyz) somehow being overloaded to first check for org files. Fuzzy thinking most likely ;) If I eval a block such as (require 'mylib) it would be nice if it could detect the org has changed and so re-create the el etc. see below Should possibly writing the org file auto create the .el file? Or is that best left to load time? I think this will be more reliable if it is left as a load-time operation, rather than as a save-hook or something. Also, since the file is only re-tangled when the .org file is newer than the .el file it should not be a noticeable startup performance hit. It's true about the overhead being small but if you edit the org file then the elisp file should, I think, always be up to date and not out of sync until the next emacs startup. Especially for those of us who might use the daemon and restarts are few and far between. Imagine I alter a tangled block in the my org file and save and later want to email some lisp to a friend - as happened to today I might forget the updated org and instead copy from the .el file - oops! Thanks -- Eric Thanks for your reply. I really like org-babel. The only things I would say about the current implementation, and being totally selfish as I only use it for elisp at the moment ;), is that C-c C-c should use the org-ctl-cl-ctl-c functionality to edit the code block as the default instead of the harder to key C-'. Would it be hard to make the default org-file or src type configurable? On that note it would be wonderful if somehow nxhtml would work with this so we could actually edit in place in emacs-lisp mode. Is there anything in that direction? Great stuff, regard r. Any opinions or discussions/pointers appreciated. regards, r. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Google Talk : rileyrg...@googlemail.com http://www.google.com/talk ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X vCards / \ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Dan Davison wrote: andrea writes: I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything Hi Andrea, I've used a single org mode file to keep all my emacs configuration code for the last 5 months or so and I have not had any problems at all. I highly recommend it. I am using a simple set up: My ~/.emacs contains -- (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp) (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp) (require 'org-install) (require 'org-babel-init) (org-babel-load-file ~/config/emacs/emacs.org) -- and all the rest of my emacs config code is in ~/config/emacs/emacs.org This works very nicely. Thank you. I am thinking about making my config a little leaner while I reorganize without affecting functionality I have gotten used to by preventing sections of config from loading. I thought setting :tangle to `no' should help but the default is already `no' and all my config is loaded. How would one go about marking a section of configuration so that it remains in the configuration file but does not get tangled while Emacs boots? Hi Manish, I think this will require a little development/bug-fixing on my part before it works easily. As I recall the elisp tangling in `org-babel-load-file' is fairly aggressive and may not respect tangle header arguments. But the method you described above (setting the tangle header argument to no -- either in a subtree property or by block) is certainly the correct approach. Hi Eric -- I believe you already have it working in exactly this way :) Manish -- could you double check please? I use :tangle no to exclude blocks of elisp from my emacs init file, and it is working. Dan I'll let you know when I find some time to look into this. Best -- Eric Thanks ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] [org-beamer] inline slides?
Carsten and other beamerers--
Thanks for the excellent extension to org. I've used it for one
presentation already and found it quite useful.
I have an idea that doesn't yet qualify as a feature request, more like
an idea for discussion. What do people think about the idea of adding
the capability to write inline slides, akin to the way we can currently
write inline TODO items?
The parallels between the two applications seem pretty significant to
me. Sometimes you're in the middle of a long block of text or an
outline tree where you don't want to disrupt the structure, and you want
to add a different kind of content alongside the current material.
The application I have in mind has to do with writing my doctoral
thesis. I know that I'll be writing long chapters; I also know that
I'll have to prepare slides for my public defense. Ideally, during the
writing process I'll be able to notice a series of important points and
drop into an inline slide to jot them down for the talk. Similarly, I
could see wanting to start a section with an overview slide, but not
wanting to alter the structure of the section.
Since slides are mostly just headlines with special tags and properties,
at the end of the process I could easily selectively export just the
text of the dissertation or just the embedded slides.
Early on in the process of developing org-beamer, a suggestion was made
that footnotes could serve as a way of entering \note{} elements into
beamer slides. That proposal sees notes as ways of annotating slides.
I'm interested in sort of flipping that idea around, so that slides are
basically short annotations of the major points in my thesis.
Do people think that an inline-slides interface akin to the inline-tasks
interface would be a useful way of incorporating beamer slides into org
documents?
Thanks,
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Re: [Orgmode] How to combine the analogue (Moleskine) world with digital (org-mode) world ?
I use a small notebook with small pen as shown in http://www.upgradeinfoshop.com.br/admin/produtos/8186.jpg or http://www.livrariagraf.com.br/ecommerce_produtos_ver_foto.php?id=989 BTW I have to thank Eric for his (always excellent) post!!! Daniel 2010/1/25 Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk At Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:09:27 +0900, Torsten Wagner wrote: However, not all my work is just in front of a computer. And the world [...] My question is now. What would be the best way to combine the moleskine and org-mode ? Does someone have experience with a paper [...] Any ideas and experience would be welcome. In the olden days (as my son says), I used to run a mixed system (well beore org-mode days, mind you). The best working scenario for me was the following: - every Sunday, I would go through my paper diary, a Filofax (tm), and transfer any new/changed items to my electronic version. - I would then print off the next month's calendar in week per two pages form compatible my Filofax. - during the week, I would tend to work only on paper if I wasn't at my desk but, even at the desk, I would update both paper and computer simultaneously with new/changed entries. Any such entries would be ticked on the paper so that I knew that I had already incorporated them into the computer version. Eventually, I gave up and bought a Psion 3 (the original incarnation, then a 3a and finally a 3mx) which I carried with me all the time! My 3mx died early this century and I have been struggling ever since. The Psion was absolutely fantastic, an example of engineering (both hardware and software) at its best! I now have org-mode which is fantastic in terms of the software end (and in many ways is reminiscent of the Psion) but the hardware end is lagging [1]. I now use a combination of systems: desktop PCs at work and home, netbook (Asus EEE) on the move with a Nokia internet tablet (N810) for those times when the netbook is too inconvenient (e.g. impromptu lunchtime meetings). Everything is synchronised using git. This all works well enough but I still would like a single pocketable computer that I could use in all scenarios. The Nokia's keyboard and screen are just a little too small, especially the keyboard. I am hopeful that a more usable system will come out this year as many mobile internet devices [MID] and ultra-mobile PCs (UMPC) were announced last year. The UMID co. look promising. Maybe the Pandora! Possibly one of the Android phones but probably not. I won't get an iPhone as I don't like the proprietary nature of the software [2]. I want Linux or equivalent with org-mode! HTH, eric Footnotes: [1] and this is *not* Carsten's fault ;-) [2] yes, the Psion ran proprietary software as well but, partly because of being orphaned by them, I no longer am willing to end up beholden to a single company's system! ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: A bug of org-freemind.el in org-mode package 3.34c
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Yu Shen (MCBU) yus...@utstar.com wrote: It seems in the function of org-freemind-write-mm-buffer, in the following code segment, the treatment of sub-node level may have some problem. If the level is one level more than its parent’s level, the function will abort, abandoning the expert. I’d wish that it would be more robust to do the export regardless the unusual level number, and just give clearer warning. (when ( next-level current-level) (if (not (and org-odd-levels-only (/= (mod current-level 2) 0) (= next-level (+ 2 current-level (setq skipping-odd nil) (setq skipping-odd t) (setq skipped-odd (1+ skipped-odd))) (unless (or (= next-level (1+ current-level)) skipping-odd) (if (or org-odd-levels-only (/= next-level (+ 2 current-level))) (error Next level step +1 for node ending at line %s (line-number-at-pos)) (error Next level step = +2 for node ending at line %s, forgot org-odd-levels-only? (line-number-at-pos))) )) Attached is an example to demonstrate the problem. I’d like to know the author’s (Lennart Borgman) intension before I attempt to modify it. Hi Yu, My intention was just to help the user find errors. If the subnode level is not just node level+1 then I expect that there is some trouble with the org file (if not org-odd-levels-only). If you think it is useful with bigger level steps then perhaps you could make the check optional with a defcustom? Kind regards, L Yu Shen yubrs...@gmail.com ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Deadline question, must be making a mistake
Hi All, Rather than changing the config variable, I'd like to change the number of warning days on a deadline date. I put the following: DEADLINE: 2010-02-14 Sun -14d But when I view the agenda, I'm not getting my warning days. I only see the warning if *today* is within the time frame, not if I'm just *viewing* the time frame. Any way to have the warning show regardless of what day it is? David A. Gershman gersh...@dagertech.net http://dagertech.net/gershman/ It's all about the path! --d. gershman ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Refile to top or bottom of list on demand
When I refile a heading, there is a variable that can be set to send the refiled headings to the front or back of the destination list. Is there a way to do that on demand, i.e. without setting a variable? Thanks! David A. Gershman gersh...@dagertech.net http://dagertech.net/gershman/ It's all about the path! --d. gershman ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
On Jan 26, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Dan Davison wrote: Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Dan Davison wrote: andrea writes: I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything Hi Andrea, I've used a single org mode file to keep all my emacs configuration code for the last 5 months or so and I have not had any problems at all. I highly recommend it. I am using a simple set up: My ~/.emacs contains -- (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp) (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp) (require 'org-install) (require 'org-babel-init) (org-babel-load-file ~/config/emacs/emacs.org) -- and all the rest of my emacs config code is in ~/config/emacs/emacs.org This works very nicely. Thank you. I am thinking about making my config a little leaner while I reorganize without affecting functionality I have gotten used to by preventing sections of config from loading. I thought setting :tangle to `no' should help but the default is already `no' and all my config is loaded. How would one go about marking a section of configuration so that it remains in the configuration file but does not get tangled while Emacs boots? Hi Manish, I think this will require a little development/bug-fixing on my part before it works easily. As I recall the elisp tangling in `org-babel-load-file' is fairly aggressive and may not respect tangle header arguments. But the method you described above (setting the tangle header argument to no -- either in a subtree property or by block) is certainly the correct approach. Hi Eric -- I believe you already have it working in exactly this way :) Manish -- could you double check please? I use :tangle no to exclude blocks of elisp from my emacs init file, and it is working. Dan I'll let you know when I find some time to look into this. Best -- Eric Hi all, I'm having the same experience as Dan. :tangle no keeps code blocks in my .org file from showing up in my .el file. All the best, Tom ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] refiling : limiting the destination refile targets
Here is a slight extension of the previously discussed ability to restrict what are considered valid refile targets. You can simply modify the restricted list org-no-refile-targets (which can be a list as below or simply a string tag such as norefile. , | (defun org-contains-tags (tags) | returns t if the currnt org item is tagged with tags wher tags can be a single tag or a list of tags | (interactive) | (let ((matched nil) | (tagslist (org-split-string (org-get-tags-string) :))) | (when tagslist | (if (nlistp tags) | (setq matched (member tags tagslist)) | (catch 'break | (dolist(tag tags) | (if(member tag tagslist) | (progn (setq matched t) | (throw 'break t))) | matched)) | | (defvar org-no-refile-tags `(NOTE ,org-archive-tag) org items | containing one of these tags will not be considered for refile targets) | (setq org-refile-target-verify-function `(lambda()(not(org-contains-tags org-no-refile-tags ` As an elisp beginner, it pains me to tell you it took me about 2 hours to get the right quoting sequences for the org-archive-tag to evaluate properly I have significantly less hair now ... ;) r. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Deadline question, must be making a mistake
David A. Gershman dagershman_...@dagertech.net writes: Hi All, Rather than changing the config variable, I'd like to change the number of warning days on a deadline date. I put the following: DEADLINE: 2010-02-14 Sun -14d But when I view the agenda, I'm not getting my warning days. I only see the warning if *today* is within the time frame, not if I'm just *viewing* the time frame. Any way to have the warning show regardless of what day it is? I think what you are seeing is the intended behaviour. If you set a deadline warning day it only shows up in your agenda when 'today' is within the warning period (ie. you're less than 14 days away from the deadline date). I don't think you can set a deadline for 6 months in the future with -14d and expect to see the warning when you view the calendar a week before that deadline since the deadline is still 6 months away from today. -Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: How to combine the analogue (Moleskine) world with digital (org-mode)
Torstens question is also mine: Still... maybe you want to try out ideas at http://www.diyplanner.com/ ? As for the view everything-digital-is-better-than-everything-analogue, it would be good to look at Andy Hunt's Refactor your Wetware. Now Andy as the author of the pragmatic programmer, signatory of the agile alliance etc is hardly a luddite but he insists on the importance of handwriting. And of course orgmode promises to be that sweet-interface between me -- an analogue device -- with an ever increasingly digital world. However there are still roadblocks ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Dan Davison wrote: Eric Schulte writes: Manish writes: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Dan Davison wrote: andrea writes: I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything Hi Andrea, I've used a single org mode file to keep all my emacs configuration code for the last 5 months or so and I have not had any problems at all. I highly recommend it. I am using a simple set up: My ~/.emacs contains -- (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp) (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp) (require 'org-install) (require 'org-babel-init) (org-babel-load-file ~/config/emacs/emacs.org) -- and all the rest of my emacs config code is in ~/config/emacs/emacs.org This works very nicely. Thank you. I am thinking about making my config a little leaner while I reorganize without affecting functionality I have gotten used to by preventing sections of config from loading. I thought setting :tangle to `no' should help but the default is already `no' and all my config is loaded. How would one go about marking a section of configuration so that it remains in the configuration file but does not get tangled while Emacs boots? Hi Manish, I think this will require a little development/bug-fixing on my part before it works easily. As I recall the elisp tangling in `org-babel-load-file' is fairly aggressive and may not respect tangle header arguments. But the method you described above (setting the tangle header argument to no -- either in a subtree property or by block) is certainly the correct approach. Hi Eric -- I believe you already have it working in exactly this way :) Manish -- could you double check please? I use :tangle no to exclude blocks of elisp from my emacs init file, and it is working. You are right. I just did not try it at all after reading that :tangle no was the default. My apologies. I ran some tests and here are the results. | SET AS| VALUE | RESULT | |---+---+-| | not set | n/a | tangled | | property :TANGLE: | no| not tangled | | property :TANGLE: | yes | backtrace | | header argument :tangle | no| not tangled | | header argument :tangle | yes | backtrace | --8---cut here---start-8--- Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable compilation-mode-map) (define-key compilation-mode-map (kbd n) (quote compilation-next-error)) eval-buffer(#buffer *load*2 nil d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/emacs.el nil t) ; Reading at buffer position 3862 load-with-code-conversion(d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/emacs.el d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/emacs.el nil nil) load(d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/emacs.el nil nil t) load-file(~/.emacs.d/emacs.el) (let* ((base-name ...) (exported-file ...)) (unless (and ... ...) (org-babel-tangle-file file base-name emacs-lisp)) (load-file exported-file) (message loaded %s exported-file)) (progn (fset (quote age) (function* ...)) (let* (... ...) (unless ... ...) (load-file exported-file) (message loaded %s exported-file))) (unwind-protect (progn (fset ... ...) (let* ... ... ... ...)) (if --cl-letf-bound-- (fset ... --cl-letf-save--) (fmakunbound ...))) (let* ((--cl-letf-bound-- ...) (--cl-letf-save-- ...)) (unwind-protect (progn ... ...) (if --cl-letf-bound-- ... ...))) (letf ((... ...)) (let* (... ...) (unless ... ...) (load-file exported-file) (message loaded %s exported-file))) (letf* ((... ...)) (let* (... ...) (unless ... ...) (load-file exported-file) (message loaded %s exported-file))) (flet ((age ... ...)) (let* (... ...) (unless ... ...) (load-file exported-file) (message loaded %s exported-file))) org-babel-load-file(~/.emacs.d/emacs.org) eval-buffer(#buffer *load* nil d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/init.el nil t) ; Reading at buffer position 1576 load-with-code-conversion(d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/init.el d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/init.el t t) load(d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/init t t) #[nil --8---cut here---end---8--- Thanks -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] how to print agenda with entry text
hello! is there a way one can print/save agenda /with/ the entry text exposed by `E' in agenda? thanks -- manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
