Re: [O] emdash and endash

2011-04-17 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
On Mon, Apr 18 2011, Samuel Wales wrote:

> On 2011-04-17, Ben Finney  wrote:
>> I think not. I see many (non-Org) ASCII documents that distinguish a
>> notional em dash from en dash by different number of hyphens, as in your
>> first list.
>
> Like this---really?  Or --- this?  It does look, however, as if people
> use different standards.  I am not suggesting that the default be
> changed.
>
>> “Consistent with ASCII”? ASCII has neither en dash nor em dash, so it's
>> not ASCII that you're wanting to be consistent with. You're referring to
>> conventions that attempt to preserve Unicode characters in ASCII.
>
> Quite right.  Of course, some conventions -- this one included
> (or--arguably uglier but many favor it--this one) -- began before
> Unicode.

A very minor two cents…

I think this springs much earlier typographical conventions: the
grammatical dash is sometimes represented by an en-dash with spaces on
either side, and sometimes by an em-dash with no spaces. Perhaps a US/UK
thing? But I don't think that anyone uses an em-dash with spaces on
either side, and I think the convention of two ASCII dashes standing for
an en-dash (and three for em-) probably still makes the most sense…




Re: [O] emdash and endash

2011-04-17 Thread Samuel Wales
On 2011-04-17, Ben Finney  wrote:
> I think not. I see many (non-Org) ASCII documents that distinguish a
> notional em dash from en dash by different number of hyphens, as in your
> first list.

Like this---really?  Or --- this?  It does look, however, as if people
use different standards.  I am not suggesting that the default be
changed.

> “Consistent with ASCII”? ASCII has neither en dash nor em dash, so it's
> not ASCII that you're wanting to be consistent with. You're referring to
> conventions that attempt to preserve Unicode characters in ASCII.

Quite right.  Of course, some conventions -- this one included
(or--arguably uglier but many favor it--this one) -- began before
Unicode.



Re: [O] emdash and endash

2011-04-17 Thread Ben Finney
Samuel Wales  writes:

> 1 dash: - 2 -- 3 ---
> 1 dash: - 2 – 3 —
>
> When I write in ASCII, I notate emdash like "--".  I think this is
> standard.

I think not. I see many (non-Org) ASCII documents that distinguish a
notional em dash from en dash by different number of hyphens, as in your
first list.

> I never use "---" in ASCII. Is there a way to make "--" export as
> emdash in order to be consistent with ASCII?

“Consistent with ASCII”? ASCII has neither en dash nor em dash, so it's
not ASCII that you're wanting to be consistent with. You're referring to
conventions that attempt to preserve Unicode characters in ASCII.

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Re: [O] emdash and endash

2011-04-17 Thread Samuel Wales
Interesting.

However, unlike Org, Latex is not commonly exported to ASCII, commonly
copied without exporting to ASCII, commonly used as an organizing
system with ASCII pasted in, or multitargeted to ASCII (by copying and
export) and other formats, is it?  Or is it?  (Asking, not
rhetorical.)



Re: [O] emdash and endash

2011-04-17 Thread Chris Malone
For what its worth, "--" is an endash in LaTeX as well.
On Apr 17, 2011 11:04 PM, "Samuel Wales"  wrote:
> 1 dash: - 2 -- 3 ---
> 1 dash: - 2 – 3 —
>
> When I write in ASCII, I notate emdash like "--". I think this is
standard.
> But in HTML export, that is an endash.
>
> I never use "---" in ASCII. Is there a way to make "--"
> export as emdash in order to be consistent with ASCII?
>
> I wonder if we could control this with a variable. Perhaps
> with the variable set, \-- can be an endash and -- can be an
> emdash, or something like that.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Samuel
>
> --
> The Kafka Pandemic:
>
http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2010/12/welcome-to-kafka-pandemic-two-forces_9182.html
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> ===
> I want to see the original (pre-hold) Lo et al. 2010 NIH/FDA/Harvard MRV
paper.
>


[O] emdash and endash

2011-04-17 Thread Samuel Wales
1 dash: - 2 -- 3 ---
1 dash: - 2 – 3 —

When I write in ASCII, I notate emdash like "--".  I think this is standard.
But in HTML export, that is an endash.

I never use "---" in ASCII.  Is there a way to make "--"
export as emdash in order to be consistent with ASCII?

I wonder if we could control this with a variable.  Perhaps
with the variable set, \-- can be an endash and -- can be an
emdash, or something like that.

Thanks.

Samuel

-- 
The Kafka Pandemic:
  
http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2010/12/welcome-to-kafka-pandemic-two-forces_9182.html
I support the Whittemore-Peterson Institute (WPI)
===
I want to see the original (pre-hold) Lo et al. 2010 NIH/FDA/Harvard MRV paper.



Re: [O] Using orgmode to take "inline notes" for research

2011-04-17 Thread Rasmus

> It is cool but doesn't play well with margins, as you have seen.  I've
> given up on cool and use the following instead:

I agree on the cool not being cool. However, I do wonder why you would
want to use /ordinary/ footnotes rather than something easily removable
such as fixmenotes, e.g. \fxnote[footnote]. The great thing is they are
removed in the `final' print (i.e. when `draft' is not specified).

>> - Some of my notes are multi paragraphs, which I prefer non-indented
>> and separated by a line break rather than no line break and indented.
>> But when exported, multiple paragraphs just "stack up" with no line
>> break. Can I add this to your format?

I use the following for empty lines. It is quite easy to adopt it
document wide and probably even inside certain environments.

   \newcommand*{\tomlinje}[0]{\\[\baselineskip] \setlength{\parskip}{0pt}}

I didn't get whether you are asking for footnotes specifically, but if
this is the case you might be able to play around with
\setlength{\footparindent}{} and friends?

Cheers,
Rasmus

-- 
Sent from my Emacs




Re: [O] HTML export > Resizing an activated inline image

2011-04-17 Thread Mark S


Just to say, I also am interested in how you would do this. There are  
probably more attributes that I would like to add to the image (like size  
and alignment for instance) than there are attributes I would like to add  
to the link.


Mark


--- On Wed, 4/6/11, Francesco Pizzolante  wrote:


From: Francesco Pizzolante 
Subject: [O] HTML export > Resizing an activated inline image
To: "mailing-list-org-mode" 
Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 1:14 AM
Hi,
When you want to resize an inline image, you have to write
something like the
following:
--8<---cut
here---start->8---
#+ATTR_HTML: width=50%
[[./images/toto.png]]
--8<---cut
here---end--->8---
This generates the following HTML code:
--8<---cut
here---start->8---

--8<---cut
here---end--->8---
Now, I would like my image to be activated and the link
should point to the
image itself. So, I'm trying the following:
--8<---cut
here---start->8---
#+ATTR_HTML: width=50%
[[./images/toto.png][file:./images/toto.png]]
--8<---cut
here---end--->8---
But this adds the width to the anchor and not to the
image:
--8<---cut
here---start->8---

--8<---cut
here---end--->8---
Any idea on the way to the get the following HTML code from
Org?
--8<---cut
here---start->8---

--8<---cut
here---end--->8---
Thanks for your help.
Francesco





[O] Short separator in HTML

2011-04-17 Thread Samuel Wales
Just to follow up on my own post.

On 2011-01-25, Samuel Wales  wrote:
> Do you just do this every time you want a within-headline section?
>
> #+begin_center
> ---
> #+end_center

I know about "-", but that extends across the page.  Is there a
shortcut for a short separator?

Thanks.

Samuel



[O] [OT] Pomodoro for emacs

2011-04-17 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Hi list,

I use Pomodoro to help keeping me focused, and right now I use Focus
Booster on OSX.

However, I just found http://kanis.fr/hg/lisp/ivan/pomodoro.el, which
might be a good addition to the emacs PIM arsenal, haven't tried it
yet, but wanted to spread the word :)

Cheers,

Marcelo.



Re: [O] Can I put | in a table cell?

2011-04-17 Thread Carsten Dominik

On 17.4.2011, at 09:18, Michael Sperber wrote:

> 
> SSIA.  I'm sure this is answered in an obvious place, but I couldn't
> find it.  Quoting so I'd get correct export rendering would be
> sufficient.

   | \vert | c |
   | x | abc\vert{}def |

HTH

- Carsten




[O] possible table tutorial error

2011-04-17 Thread William Beard
Hello
I was looking at the table tutorial
[[http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/tables.html][here]], and some
information conflicted with my Org setup. It says
"When columns are narrowed, it might be useful to temporary see the
content of a cell with C-c ..."
I couldn't get it to work with this combination, but C-u  worked
for me. I wasn't sure how else to report/fix this.

Thanks
Chris Beard

ps- for the sake of strict grammar, it should also probably say
"temporarily" instead of "temporary"




[O] Can I put | in a table cell?

2011-04-17 Thread Michael Sperber

SSIA.  I'm sure this is answered in an obvious place, but I couldn't
find it.  Quoting so I'd get correct export rendering would be
sufficient.

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Cheers =8-} Mike
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