Re: [O] The Org-ODT exporter is now in Org's core (latest git)

2011-12-16 Thread Achim Gratz
Dave Marquardt davem...@us.ibm.com writes:
 +# Where etc files go.
 +etcdir= $(prefix)/share/emacs/etc

That should better be $(lispdir)/etc or $(lispdir)/../etc — at least
those two are the only places that org-odt.el currently searches.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Makefile restructuring

2011-12-16 Thread Achim Gratz
Some recent changes to this fork:

- integrated the etc/ directory for Jambunathans ODT exporter

- allow for optional local customization (local.mk) in lisp/ and /etc

- use byte-recompile-directory by default (much faster and closer to
  what package manager does); always make clean and remove
  dependencies since they don't work anyway and can't be auto-generated

- version strings are compiled into org-install.el so that they don't
  need to be commited into org.el

- git version is always shown when available (otherwise N/A when
  uncompiled and not in a git repository)

- show the path to org-install in org-version to make it easier to check
  for possible load-path corruption due to duplicate or stale
  installations


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] The Org-ODT exporter is now in Org's core (latest git)

2011-12-16 Thread Eric S Fraga
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:

 Give me latex any day!

 Ok. Take it. 

 http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/to_each_his_own.

Indeed!  and http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=YMMV

;-)

seriously, this is one of the best things about org mode: I can write in
org and, for the most part, not worry about how I will actually
disseminate the document (odt, html, pdf, ascii, ...) while creating the
content.

and, even more seriously, thank you for your contribution to this whole
process!  I may not use ODT exporting very often but when I do, it will
be greatly appreciated.

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.92.1
: using Org-mode version 7.7 (release_7.7.381.g05ea.dirty)



Re: [O] How to control face for plain links

2011-12-16 Thread Bernt Hansen
Takaaki ISHIKAWA tak...@ieee.org writes:

 Dear all,

 Hi.

 Does anyone know the best way to disable face for plain links?

 In Japanese sentences, I handle a link without a space, e.g.

 [ja] 公式ページは、http://orgmode.org/にあります。
 [en] http://orgmode.org/ is the official website.

 When the `org-activate-plain-links' is active,
 the overlay with underline will be applied to the end of line.
 An org-descriptive-links style (e.g. [[http://a][link]]) has 
 the same issue when `org-activate-plain-links' is active.
 This is probably not comfortable for many Japanese users.

 I therefore comment out a line in org.el as follows:

 org-set-font-lock-defaults, org.el, Line:5773
 ---
  (if (memq 'angle lk) '(org-activate-angle-links (0 'org-link t)))
 ;(if (memq 'plain lk) '(org-activate-plain-links))
  (if (memq 'bracket lk) '(org-activate-bracket-links (0 'org-link t)))

 Any alternative solutions?

 I think a toggle option like `org-toggle-link-display' is needed.

Hi,

Can't you just customize the face to remove the underline?  C-u C-x = on
a character of the link should show the face used and allow you to
customize it to remove the underline.

Regards,
Bernt



Re: [O] The Org-ODT exporter is now in Org's core (latest git)

2011-12-16 Thread Eric S Fraga
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:

 1. How do I tell the exporter to include the AUTHOR and DATE fields in
the exported output?

 Pushed a fix for this.

Thanks!  Works perfectly.  I now have to train myself to avoid
latex-isms in my author field, things like \and and \\... easily
done.

 2. I see where the default styles are and I am happy with these
generally.  However, as a libreoffice n00b, how do I create my own
style file that would be appropriate for the ODT exporter?  It's not
so much about the creating of style files (although help in that
regard would not be sniffed at ;-) but about whether there is a list
of paragraph styles that can be customised somewhere?

 Ok. Can you be more specific?

It's okay.  Others in this thread have given me plenty suggestions on
how to do this!

Thanks again,
eric

-- 
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: using Org-mode version 7.8.02 (release_7.8.02.8.g8fb0)



[O] Carstens google talk (was Bastiens talk)

2011-12-16 Thread Rustom Mody
Timeline for Carstens google talk

Carsten Start 1:20
History 1:50
Working with Text Files 2:15
Notes (not tasks) based project planning 3:58
Outline mode - fixing 5:50
Structure Editing 9:56
Note taking other supports 11:00
Meta data Intro 13:35
 - TODO
 - Priority
 - tags 14:57
 - Timeplanning 15:26
 - Properties 15:53

Meta data propagation 16:02
Special Meta entry interfaces 16:49
DateTime interface 17:55
Column view 18:24
Capture with remember 19:20
Collect and Display 23:02
Sparse tree 23:52
Agenda view 25:47
Exporting and publishing 27:27
Tables 29:05
Calc 31:34
Radio tables 32:44
Context sensitive keys 34:53
How is org used 38:13
Evolved Software software 40:55


[O] 'Missing' link to the release notes on the homepage

2011-12-16 Thread Christoph LANGE

Hi Bastien, dear all,

Congratulations on the new release and the new homepage!  Some quick 
feedback about the new homepage:


I would have expected a link to the release notes from the following 
text on http://orgmode.org/org-mode-news.html:



Latest news
2011-12-12 Release 7.8, 7.8.01 and 7.8.02.


I know that the release notes exist, and that they are linked from the 
download page, but the latter is simply not the only place where I'd 
expect them.


Overall I like the new homepage design.  Just a minor issue, which, I 
think (didn't read the whole thread, just searched for the issue), 
hasn't been mentioned so far:


One problematic side-effect of the fixed head bar, at least in Firefox 
and Opera, is that is impairs page-wise scrolling.  When I hit page 
down, some lines of text (as much as the height of the head bar) is 
skipped.  If you are lucky enough to _notice_ that, you have to manually 
work around by scrolling the page a few lines up again. – But I have no 
idea for fixing, other than un-fixing the head bar – which you may find 
undesirable for other reasons.


Cheers,

Christoph

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[O] Bugs/features of accumulating property values when used with entries (concretely: in org-contacts)

2011-12-16 Thread Christoph LANGE

Dear all,

noticing the new feature Property names ending in + accumulate (as 
described on 
http://orgmode.org/Changes.html#accumulating-property-keywords – BTW, 
this exposes another issue with the fixed head bar on the new homepage, 
as the actual link target is hidden by the head bar), I thought I could 
use it in the property drawers of the entries of my org-contacts file, 
and noticed the following problems:


1. font lock (aka syntax highlighting) does not yet recognize :PROPERTY+:

2. accumulation doesn't work within the same entry; details follow:

For some of my contacts I'd like to record multiple phone numbers or 
e-mail addresses.  So far I have been doing that in an ad hoc manner, e.g.


* Contact Name
  :PROPERTIES:
  :EMAIL:f...@bar.org, b...@baz.org
  :END:

While I have not yet automated my usage of org-contacts, I thought it 
would be more scalable and more accessible to future scripting if 
multi-valued properties had a clear multi-value representation.  (So the 
feature is not yet mission-critical for me.)  I thought that the new 
accumulation feature might be suitable for that.  (Or did I 
misunderstand the feature?)


So when I changed the above contact entry to

* Contact Name
  :PROPERTIES:
  :EMAIL:f...@bar.org
  :EMAIL+:   b...@baz.org
  :END:

I would have expected (org-entry-get (point) EMAIL t) to evaluate to, 
well, at least f...@bar.org b...@baz.org (and in some later version of 
org-mode maybe to a two-item list, for even easier automated 
processing).  But I got the following unexpected results, which indicate 
that accumulation is not yet supported in this context (well, if it was 
ever _intended_…):


(org-entry-get (point) EMAIL t)  → f...@bar.org
(org-entry-get (point) EMAIL+ t) → b...@baz.org

Cheers, and thanks for any help,

Christoph

PS:  org-contacts may not be the best tool to use anyway.  I like it so 
far, but if you know a better alternative that satisfies my 
requirements, I'd appreciate hints.  My requirements so far are:
* easily capturing information about contacts (addresses, birthdays, but 
also arbitrary other information)

* grouping contacts (e.g. by tagging them)
* linking to contacts from other org files
* for easy display and editing (e.g. like org columns)

--
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[O] imaxima?

2011-12-16 Thread Petro
Can I use imaxima shell together with maxima support of org mode?
Thanks.
Petro





[O] Bug: [ORG-ODT] Export does not respect author:nil and timestamp:nil [7.8.02 (release_7.8.02.8.g8fb0)]

2011-12-16 Thread Jonathan Leech-Pepin
Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See

http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback

Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.


Prior to commit: f5add81f4b2b0d39f0597967fae4076fa5f8eff0 org-odt.el:
Include author and date in the title when exporting my resume to ODT
the exporter respected my export options for author:nil and
timestamp:nil.

Since the above commit my odt file includes Author and Date
information in the subtitle regardless of what was set in the options
line.

I tested my export using emacs -Q and then evaluating the
following in the scratch buffer to ensure I had the most current odt
exporter loaded.

,--
| (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name ~/.emacs.d/src/org/lisp))
| (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name
~/.emacs.d/src/org/contrib/lisp))
| (org-reload)
`--

Attached are the minimal .org file I used to reproduce the issue, and
the resulting .odt .


Emacs : GNU Emacs 24.0.92.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
of 2011-11-30 on MARVIN
Package: Org-mode version 7.8.02 (release_7.8.02.8.g8fb0)

current state:
==
(setq
org-export-blocks '((src org-babel-exp-src-block nil) (comment
org-export-blocks-format-comment t)
(ditaa org-export-blocks-format-ditaa nil) (dot
org-export-blocks-format-dot nil))
org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-babel-hash-at-point
org-babel-execute-safely-maybe)
org-export-preprocess-before-selecting-backend-code-hook
'(org-beamer-select-beamer-code)
org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe
org-src-native-tab-command-maybe)
org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers
org-cycle-show-empty-lines
org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-default-hook
org-babel-speed-command-hook)
org-export-preprocess-hook
'(org-lparse-strip-experimental-blocks-maybe-hook)
org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer)
org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
org-export-interblocks '((lob org-babel-exp-lob-one-liners) (src
org-babel-exp-inline-src-blocks))
org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
org-export-latex-format-toc-function 'org-export-latex-format-toc-default
org-export-preprocess-before-normalizing-links-hook
'(org-remove-file-link-modifiers)
org-export-preprocess-after-blockquote-hook
'(org-export-odt-preprocess-latex-fragments
org-lparse-preprocess-after-blockquote-hook)
org-blank-before-new-entry nil
org-clock-out-hook '(org-clock-remove-empty-clock-drawer)
org-export-first-hook '(org-beamer-initialize-open-trackers)
org-mode-hook '(#[nil \300\301\302\303\304$\207
[org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all append local] 5]
org-babel-hide-all-hashes)
org-export-latex-final-hook '(org-beamer-amend-header org-beamer-fix-toc
org-beamer-auto-fragile-frames
org-beamer-place-default-actions-for-lists)
org-export-latex-after-initial-vars-hook '(org-beamer-after-initial-vars)
org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer
org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
org-file-apps '((\\.odc\\' . system) (\\.odf\\' . system) (\\.odi\\'
. system) (\\.otp\\' . system)
(\\.odp\\' . system) (\\.otg\\' . system) (\\.odg\\' . system)
(\\.ots\\' . system)
(\\.ods\\' . system) (\\.odm\\' . system) (\\.ott\\' . system)
(\\.odt\\' . system)
(auto-mode . emacs) (\\.mm\\' . default) (\\.x?html?\\' . default)
(\\.pdf\\' . default))
org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
)


vitae2.odt
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text


vitae2.org
Description: Binary data


Re: [O] A presentation tool for org-mode

2011-12-16 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Takaaki,

This looks like a fun presentation option.

I just tried out org tree slide and while it appeared to launch
successfully, highlighted the title of my first subtree, and presented
me with a nice /slide/ effect, I was unable to move on from the first
headline in my Org-mode file.  I was using this file [1].  It is
possible that this is not the file structure expected by org-tree-slide?

I wonder if you are familiar with epresent [2].  It is very similar to
org-tree-slide as they are both minimal presentation frameworks build to
run off of Org-mode documents from within Emacs.

If you find time it would be great to add mention of org-tree-slide on
the relevant worg page [3], so that future Orgers looking for
presentation options won't miss this tool.

Thanks for sharing,

Takaaki ISHIKAWA tak...@ieee.org writes:

 Dear all,

 Hi.

 I'm writing a presentation tool for Org-mode named `org-tree-slide'.
 This elisp will help you when a live editable presentation is required.
 And it is also possible to access TODO items sequentially with narrowing.

 Since org-tree-slide treats a tree as a single slide by org-narrow-to-subtree,
 it is different from an exporter to HTML and other presentation tools 
 customized
 for good visualization. To move between slides, just type left and right.

 Please find org-tree-slide and review it.

 You can download from the following direct link:
 https://raw.github.com/takaxp/org-tree-slide/master/org-tree-slide.el

 org-tree-slide is a minor mode for Org-mode.
 I recommend that these key bindings are set into your .emacs.

 (global-set-key (kbd f8) 'org-tree-slide-mode)
 (global-set-key (kbd S-f8) 'org-tree-slide-skip-done-toggle)

 Preset profiles are defined in org-tree-slide.
 1. `org-tree-slide-simple-profile'; Simple use
 2. `org-tree-slide-presentation-profile'  ; Presentation use
 3. `org-tree-slide-narrowing-control-profile' ; TODO Pursuit with narrowing
 These functions set user variables for each using scenario.
 You can find more detail in the file.

 I hope this will help you and I'm waiting for your comments.

 Best regards,
 Takaaki Ishikawa
 @takaxp


Footnotes: 
[1]  https://raw.github.com/eschulte/epresent/master/present.org

[2]  https://github.com/eschulte/epresent

[3]  http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/non-beamer-presentations.html

-- 
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/



Re: [O] Export all clocks or find last clock out. Is it possible?

2011-12-16 Thread Mikhail Titov
 -Original Message-
 From: Bernt Hansen [mailto:be...@norang.ca]
 Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:00 PM
 To: Mikhail Titov
 Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: [O] Export all clocks or find last clock out. Is it possible?
 
  I'm not sure what happened, but now I see only Log mode is on  Log
  mode is off when I press `v c` in agenda :( Any ideas what is messed
  up?
 
 Is your agenda limited by tags or a restriction that has no log data?

Just to let you know. Somehow I got wrong org-agenda-files (Saving emacs
config does that?). Everything is working as expected after I removed
corresponding line from dot emacs as I have proper one included from my
customizations in myorg.el loaded earlier.

Thanks again!
M.




Re: [O] Getting rid of split frame with org-capture

2011-12-16 Thread Tom Prince
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:11:11 +0100, Andreas Leha 
andreas.l...@med.uni-goettingen.de wrote:
 While it works well on my emacs23, the emacs24 snapshot from
 http://emacs.naquadah.org/ crashes, when I select a template.  Is this a
 general issue with emacs24?  Ideas to adapt the snippet to work with
 emacs24?

What do you mean by crash? Does the emacs process exit? In that case, I
would try reporting the problem to some emacs forum ... I don't think
emacs should be crashing given any elisp code, certainly not this code.

  Tom



[O] Bibliographic references

2011-12-16 Thread Alan L Tyree
I feel like this should be googleable, but I'm not having much luck.

As Eric mentioned in a recent post, one of the nice things about 
writing in org is that there is no need to worry about output format.

Except in one thing: How do I deal with bibliographic citations so that 
the output is sensible in the different formats? How do I get \cite
{key} to export properly in XHTML and odt as well as in LaTeX?

Sorry if this is obvious to everybody else -- I'm stymied.

Cheers,
Alan

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Tel:  04 2748 6206  sip:172...@iptel.org





Re: [O] Bibliographic references

2011-12-16 Thread Nick Dokos
Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote:

 I feel like this should be googleable, but I'm not having much luck.
 
 As Eric mentioned in a recent post, one of the nice things about 
 writing in org is that there is no need to worry about output format.
 

He did say mostly I think...

 Except in one thing: How do I deal with bibliographic citations so that 
 the output is sensible in the different formats? How do I get \cite
 {key} to export properly in XHTML and odt as well as in LaTeX?
 

... and I believe this is one area that is not covered by the mostly
umbrella :)

 Sorry if this is obvious to everybody else -- I'm stymied.
 

I don't know of an answer either. I'd like to find out that I'm wrong.

Nick




Re: [O] Bibliographic references

2011-12-16 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com writes:

 I feel like this should be googleable, but I'm not having much luck.

 As Eric mentioned in a recent post, one of the nice things about 
 writing in org is that there is no need to worry about output format.

 Except in one thing: How do I deal with bibliographic citations so that 
 the output is sensible in the different formats? How do I get \cite
 {key} to export properly in XHTML and odt as well as in LaTeX?

 Sorry if this is obvious to everybody else -- I'm stymied.

 Cheers,
 Alan
Aloha Alan,

IIUC, your immediate question has to do with making an in-text citation
look right in different output formats.  This can be accomplished with
the extended link syntax.  A basic setup that only includes LaTeX export
can be found here:

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.html#sec-17-2

For the other export formats you'll need to add (eq format 'html) ...,
etc.

Of course, this just handles the in-text part for formats other than
LaTeX.  LaTeX uses bibtex or biblatex to compile the list of
references.  I don't know how to accomplish this in ODT.  For html, I
export from Org-mode to LaTeX, then use tex4ht to convert to html.  This
leverages the bibtex capabilities and yields nicely formatted
bibliographies in html.

hth,
Tom

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http://www.tsdye.com



Re: [O] How to control face for plain links

2011-12-16 Thread Takaaki ISHIKAWA
Dear Bernt,

Hi. Thank you for your comment!
Could you give me a function name assigned to `C-u C-x ='?
For me, it is `what-cursor-position'.

Best regards,
Takaaki

On 2011/12/16, at 21:38, Bernt Hansen wrote:

 Takaaki ISHIKAWA tak...@ieee.org writes:
 
 Does anyone know the best way to disable face for plain links?
 
 Can't you just customize the face to remove the underline?  C-u C-x = on
 a character of the link should show the face used and allow you to
 customize it to remove the underline.



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Re: [O] How to control face for plain links

2011-12-16 Thread Bernt Hansen
Takaaki ISHIKAWA tak...@ieee.org writes:

 Dear Bernt,

 Hi. Thank you for your comment!
 Could you give me a function name assigned to `C-u C-x ='?
 For me, it is `what-cursor-position'.

That's what mine is set to.  The C-u just gives it a prefix argument

,
| C-x = runs the command what-cursor-position, which is an interactive
| compiled Lisp function.
| 
| It is bound to C-x =.
| 
| (what-cursor-position optional DETAIL)
| 
| Print info on cursor position (on screen and within buffer).
| Also describe the character after point, and give its character code
| in octal, decimal and hex.
| 
| For a non-ASCII multibyte character, also give its encoding in the
| buffer's selected coding system if the coding system encodes the
| character safely.  If the character is encoded into one byte, that
| code is shown in hex.  If the character is encoded into more than one
| byte, just ... is shown.
| 
| In addition, with prefix argument, show details about that character
| in *Help* buffer.  See also the command `describe-char'.
`

-Bernt



Re: [O] file name prefix in agenda view

2011-12-16 Thread sergio
On 12/16/2011 05:45 AM, Herbert Sitz wrote:

 The first field of agenda lines is actually the 'Category' of the
 heading, which defaults to the filename.

Thank you!

-- 
sergio.



Re: [O] Possibly Bug in function org-scan-tags

2011-12-16 Thread Nick Dokos
bala mayam balama...@gmail.com wrote:

 The patch has error, it does not work for the following example file
 /tmp/example.org
 * DONE s1
 * DONE s2
 * DONE s3
 
 The below patch works for all the cases
 
 diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
 index 8a1fbd3..93d603f 100644
 --- a/lisp/org.el
 +++ b/lisp/org.el
 @@ -12858,7 +12858,8 @@ only lines with a TODO keyword are included in the 
 outpu
     ;; Get the correct position from where to continue
     (if org-map-continue-from
     (goto-char org-map-continue-from)
 - (and (= (point) lspos) (end-of-line 1)
 + (and (= (point) lspos) (end-of-line 1)))
 +   (setq org-map-continue-from nil)))
  (when (and (eq action 'sparse-tree)
    (not org-sparse-tree-open-archived-trees))
    (org-hide-archived-subtrees (point-min) (point-max)))
 

OK, I've looked at it some more and unless I'm mistaken again, I think
you are correct that it is a bug. Here's the structure of the relevant
code in org-scan-tags:

 ...
 (while (re-search-forward re nil t)
(catch :skip
   ...
   (when ...
  (cond
 ((eq action 'sparse-tree)
  ... do the sparse-tree stuff...)

 ((eq action 'agenda)
  ... do the agenda stuff ...)

 ((functionp action)   ; user provided a function - the case 
here
  (setq org-map-continue-from nil)
  (save-excursion
(setq rtn1 (funcall action))
(push rtn1 rtn)))

 (t (error Invalid action)))

  ... stuff after the cond ...
   ) ; closes the when form
) ; closes the catch

;; Get the correct position from where to continue
(if org-map-continue-from
(goto-char org-map-continue-from)
  (and (= (point) lspos) (end-of-line 1)))
) ; closes the while

...

So in the case of a user-supplied action, org-map-continue-from is
initialized to nil and then the function is called. The function (as in
your case) may modify org-map-continue-from which is then used at the
end of the while loop (and not reset to nil, as you observed, so next
time around, it will be non-nil even if we don't go through the
user-provided action).

I would fix it by pulling the (setq org-map-continue-from nil) from just
before the calling of the function all the way out to the top of the loop,
instead of adding another one at the end as you did, but that's a minor
point.

Nick









Re: [O] Bibliographic references

2011-12-16 Thread Nick Dokos
Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com wrote:

 Of course, this just handles the in-text part for formats other than
 LaTeX.  LaTeX uses bibtex or biblatex to compile the list of
 references.  I don't know how to accomplish this in ODT.  For html, I
 export from Org-mode to LaTeX, then use tex4ht to convert to html.  This
 leverages the bibtex capabilities and yields nicely formatted
 bibliographies in html.
 

If libreoffice can import HTML, maybe the tex4ht way can work for ODT as
well?

Nick



Re: [O] A presentation tool for org-mode

2011-12-16 Thread Takaaki ISHIKAWA
Dear Elic,

 This looks like a fun presentation option.

Thank you very much!!

 headline in my Org-mode file.  I was using this file [1].  It is
 possible that this is not the file structure expected by org-tree-slide?

I took a short video to share a presentation by org-tree-slide
with your org file. Please find the following.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2440/org-tree-slide/Voila_Capture12.mov
(about 45[s]. 0-30[s]:simple profile, 30-end:presentation profile)

You can find a slide number in mode line like [1/6]. 
If you set `org-tree-slide-skip-done' is ON, it will [0/0].
Which means there is no the next slide.

Could you check the status? or tell me your Emacs version, OS, and Org-mode 
version.
I have verified org-tree-slide with Emacs23, Mac/suse, org 6.33 or higher.


 I wonder if you are familiar with epresent [2].  It is very similar to
 org-tree-slide as they are both minimal presentation frameworks build to
 run off of Org-mode documents from within Emacs.

Yes! I found it in this mailing list last year. It's very simple and good 
visual.

The org-tree-slide has not only presentation function but also TODO Pursuit 
like [*1].
If you use narrowing/widen frequently. This elisp is probably good for you too.
Please try M-x `org-tree-slide-narrowing-control-profile'.


 If you find time it would be great to add mention of org-tree-slide on
 the relevant worg page [3], so that future Orgers looking for
 presentation options won't miss this tool.


Thanks! I will do that as you say :-)


[*1] 15.3.1 Narrowing To A Subtree With Bh/Org-Todo
http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html

Best regards,
Takaaki Ishikawa



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Re: [O] Bibliographic references

2011-12-16 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 17/12/11 10:08:25, Nick Dokos wrote:
 Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com wrote:
 
  Of course, this just handles the in-text part for formats other 
 than
  LaTeX.  LaTeX uses bibtex or biblatex to compile the list of
  references.  I don't know how to accomplish this in ODT.  For html,
 I
  export from Org-mode to LaTeX, then use tex4ht to convert to html. 
 This
  leverages the bibtex capabilities and yields nicely formatted
  bibliographies in html.
  
 
 If libreoffice can import HTML, maybe the tex4ht way can work for ODT
 as
 well?

I suppose going through tex4ht is one way, but, to say the least, it 
doesn't seem very elegant.

LyX manages to produce XHTML directly without going through the tex 
procedure (though the Export - LyXHTML procedure) . I'm not sure how, 
but it even allows different citation styles to be ouput.

This seems like an important problem if Org is going to be the 
mechanism for publishing both eBooks and printed books. The LyX people 
are working hard on getting a direct eBook exporter, but it would be so 
much nicer to be able to write directly in Org mode.

I regret that I don't have the programming skills to work on the 
problem. It's always easy to sit back as a user and say Gee, this 
needs to be done. 

Cheers,
Alan

 
 Nick
 



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Re: [O] update agenda on file modification

2011-12-16 Thread sergio
On 12/16/2011 08:53 AM, Herbert Sitz wrote:

 This has been discussed before and even if performance was not
 a problem there are reasons for not regenerating while you're in
 agenda.

OK. May be are right, and update agenda on buffer save or get used to
update it manually is better, but what are the main reasons not to
update agenda by buffer change (except performance)? Could you give me
a link to that discussion?

 There's a function that will regenerate the agenda after an idle time
 of x seconds: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#sec-1-8-11
I think http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#sec-1-8-12 (refresh the
agenda view regularly) is more suitable. I see the only one reason for
regular agenda update --- keep now line up to date and run update
every minute. But how to synchronize this with minute start (zero second
of each minute)?

 I assume it could be modified to check for changed files on disk, if you 
 wanted to use that as trigger for regeneration.
Via after-save-hook?

-- 
sergio.



Re: [O] How to control face for plain links

2011-12-16 Thread Takaaki ISHIKAWA
Dear Bernt,

I see what you want to say :-)

I tried to set the face of org-link to remove the underline.
But faces for [[http://orgmode.org/][Org]] is also removed.

This is not good :-(

I would like to use http://orgmode.org; without underline,
and [[http://orgmode.org/][Org]]; with underline.

Do you have some good ideas?

Best regards,
Takaaki Ishikawa


On 2011/12/17, at 7:44, Bernt Hansen wrote:

 
 Could you give me a function name assigned to `C-u C-x ='?
 For me, it is `what-cursor-position'.
 
 That's what mine is set to.  The C-u just gives it a prefix argument








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Re: [O] Bibliographic references

2011-12-16 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:

 Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com wrote:

 Of course, this just handles the in-text part for formats other than
 LaTeX.  LaTeX uses bibtex or biblatex to compile the list of
 references.  I don't know how to accomplish this in ODT.  For html, I
 export from Org-mode to LaTeX, then use tex4ht to convert to html.  This
 leverages the bibtex capabilities and yields nicely formatted
 bibliographies in html.
 

 If libreoffice can import HTML, maybe the tex4ht way can work for ODT as
 well?

 Nick


Hi Nick,

Good catch.  In principle, yes, though I've never worked with
libreoffice.  We follow a similar path to produce Word versions of our
documents when clients require them: Org - LaTeX - tex4ht - html -
Word - Save As - lots of tidying by hand.  It works, but it isn't a
pretty process with our setup.  I'm sure folks on this list could do
better, though.

tex4ht has some switches that help it produce output suited for this
path.  It was designed to be configured very extensively.

What I meant earlier (but didn't express well) was that I didn't know if
it was possible to generate bibliographies from keys in the ODT
environment.  I'm guessing there must be a way to do this (Endnote?,
Zotero?), but I haven't looked into it.

Tom

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http://www.tsdye.com



Re: [O] fast navigation

2011-12-16 Thread sergio
On 12/16/2011 09:42 AM, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:

 What is your `org-goto-interface'? I've got mine set to
 outline-path-completion, and I think it does what you want.

Thank you! That's what I want.

But there is a bug. It doesn't complete headline (and doesn't goto if
type it manually) which I stay on.

For example:

* a
* b
** d
*** e
* c

If cursor is on b I can't goto d and e. If cursor is on d I can't goto
e.

Could anybody confirm this bug. Or it's my wrong config?
Should I report this bug?

-- 
sergio.



Re: [O] Bibliographic references

2011-12-16 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 17/12/11 11:25:36, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
 Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:
 
  Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com wrote:
 
  Of course, this just handles the in-text part for formats other
 than
  LaTeX.  LaTeX uses bibtex or biblatex to compile the list of
  references.  I don't know how to accomplish this in ODT.  For 
 html,
 I
  export from Org-mode to LaTeX, then use tex4ht to convert to html. 
 This
  leverages the bibtex capabilities and yields nicely formatted
  bibliographies in html.
  
 
  If libreoffice can import HTML, maybe the tex4ht way can work for
 ODT as
  well?
 
  Nick
 
 
 Hi Nick,
 
 Good catch.  In principle, yes, though I've never worked with
 libreoffice.  We follow a similar path to produce Word versions of 
 our
 documents when clients require them: Org - LaTeX - tex4ht - html -
 
 Word - Save As - lots of tidying by hand.  It works, but it isn't a
 pretty process with our setup.  I'm sure folks on this list could do
 better, though.
 
 tex4ht has some switches that help it produce output suited for this
 path.  It was designed to be configured very extensively.
 
 What I meant earlier (but didn't express well) was that I didn't know
 if
 it was possible to generate bibliographies from keys in the ODT
 environment.  I'm guessing there must be a way to do this (Endnote?,
 Zotero?), but I haven't looked into it.

Even though my original question was a bit ambiguous, what I meant was 
generating the bibliography from keys. One org input file, output to 
all formats does the right thing.

oolatex produces reasonably good OO output, including bibliography, so 
the org - LaTeX - oolatex sequence would work, but, again, seems 
clumsy. Particularly since Jambunathan's ODT export looks so good.

Alan

 
 Tom
 
 -- 
 Thomas S. Dye
 http://www.tsdye.com
 



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Re: [O] How to control face for plain links

2011-12-16 Thread Bernt Hansen
Takaaki ISHIKAWA tak...@ieee.org writes:

 Dear Bernt,

 I see what you want to say :-)

 I tried to set the face of org-link to remove the underline.
 But faces for [[http://orgmode.org/][Org]] is also removed.

 This is not good :-(

 I would like to use http://orgmode.org; without underline,
 and [[http://orgmode.org/][Org]]; with underline.

 Do you have some good ideas?

I'm afraid not.  I think you need different faces if you want to
distinguish between [[ ]] links and plain http:// links and that's not
currently supported AFAIK.

-Bernt



Re: [O] Bibliographic references

2011-12-16 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com writes:

 On 17/12/11 11:25:36, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
 Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:
 
  Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com wrote:
 
  Of course, this just handles the in-text part for formats other
 than
  LaTeX.  LaTeX uses bibtex or biblatex to compile the list of
  references.  I don't know how to accomplish this in ODT.  For 
 html,
 I
  export from Org-mode to LaTeX, then use tex4ht to convert to html. 
 This
  leverages the bibtex capabilities and yields nicely formatted
  bibliographies in html.
  
 
  If libreoffice can import HTML, maybe the tex4ht way can work for
 ODT as
  well?
 
  Nick
 
 
 Hi Nick,
 
 Good catch.  In principle, yes, though I've never worked with
 libreoffice.  We follow a similar path to produce Word versions of 
 our
 documents when clients require them: Org - LaTeX - tex4ht - html -
 
 Word - Save As - lots of tidying by hand.  It works, but it isn't a
 pretty process with our setup.  I'm sure folks on this list could do
 better, though.
 
 tex4ht has some switches that help it produce output suited for this
 path.  It was designed to be configured very extensively.
 
 What I meant earlier (but didn't express well) was that I didn't know
 if
 it was possible to generate bibliographies from keys in the ODT
 environment.  I'm guessing there must be a way to do this (Endnote?,
 Zotero?), but I haven't looked into it.

 Even though my original question was a bit ambiguous, what I meant was 
 generating the bibliography from keys. One org input file, output to 
 all formats does the right thing.

 oolatex produces reasonably good OO output, including bibliography, so 
 the org - LaTeX - oolatex sequence would work, but, again, seems 
 clumsy. Particularly since Jambunathan's ODT export looks so good.

 Alan

 
 Tom
 
 -- 
 Thomas S. Dye
 http://www.tsdye.com
 
Aloha Alan,

It would probably be fairly easy to add a variable such as
org-latex-to-oo-process patterned after org-latex-to-pdf-process and
then export to oo through oolatex directly from org-mode.  That might
get rid of the clumsiness you're experiencing.

I'm still curious how one generates a bibliography from keys in the ODT
world, or if it is possible.

All the best,
Tom

-- 
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com



Re: [O] Bibliographic references

2011-12-16 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 17/12/11 12:21:42, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
 Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com writes:
 
  On 17/12/11 11:25:36, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
  Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:
  
   Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com wrote:
  
   Of course, this just handles the in-text part for formats other
  than
   LaTeX.  LaTeX uses bibtex or biblatex to compile the list of
   references.  I don't know how to accomplish this in ODT.  For 
  html,
  I
   export from Org-mode to LaTeX, then use tex4ht to convert to
 html. 
  This
   leverages the bibtex capabilities and yields nicely formatted
   bibliographies in html.
   
  
   If libreoffice can import HTML, maybe the tex4ht way can work 
 for
  ODT as
   well?
  
   Nick
  
  
  Hi Nick,
  
  Good catch.  In principle, yes, though I've never worked with
  libreoffice.  We follow a similar path to produce Word versions of 
  our
  documents when clients require them: Org - LaTeX - tex4ht - 
 html
 -
  
  Word - Save As - lots of tidying by hand.  It works, but it 
 isn't
 a
  pretty process with our setup.  I'm sure folks on this list could
 do
  better, though.
  
  tex4ht has some switches that help it produce output suited for
 this
  path.  It was designed to be configured very extensively.
  
  What I meant earlier (but didn't express well) was that I didn't
 know
  if
  it was possible to generate bibliographies from keys in the ODT
  environment.  I'm guessing there must be a way to do this
 (Endnote?,
  Zotero?), but I haven't looked into it.
 
  Even though my original question was a bit ambiguous, what I meant
 was 
  generating the bibliography from keys. One org input file, output 
 to
 
  all formats does the right thing.
 
  oolatex produces reasonably good OO output, including bibliography,
 so 
  the org - LaTeX - oolatex sequence would work, but, again, seems 
  clumsy. Particularly since Jambunathan's ODT export looks so good.
 
  Alan
 
  
  Tom
  
  -- 
  Thomas S. Dye
  http://www.tsdye.com
  
 Aloha Alan,
 
 It would probably be fairly easy to add a variable such as
 org-latex-to-oo-process patterned after org-latex-to-pdf-process and
 then export to oo through oolatex directly from org-mode.  That might
 get rid of the clumsiness you're experiencing.
 
 I'm still curious how one generates a bibliography from keys in the
 ODT
 world, or if it is possible.   

Er, yeah, G'day Thomas :-),

I'm actually more interested in XHTML output since my main interest is 
in generating ePub books. 

Org exports nicer html than LyX, but LyX's ability to deal directly 
with bibtex keys when exporting to html is very nice. It means that 
there is a one stop shop for print and eBooks. But I would much rather 
work in emacs and org.

Cheers,
Alan
 
 
 All the best,
 Tom
 
 -- 
 Thomas S. Dye
 http://www.tsdye.com
 



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