Re: [O] Beamer export ignoring org-beamer-environments-extra?

2013-04-20 Thread James Harkins
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 12:25 PM, James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com wrote:
 The problem may be a general one concerning org-beamer-environments-extra.

 Any portion of the document containing Chinese characters should be
 enclosed within a CJK environment. Reading ox-beamer.el, I see that I
 can customize Org Beamer Environments Extra. After customizing, C-h v
 org-beamer-environments-extra shows me:

 ((CJK Z \\begin{CJK}%a%h \\end{CJK}))
... snip
 Whoa, wait a minute... it has completely omitted the CJK environment!

OK, after a bite for lunch, I see what the problem is.

The CJK environment, in the LaTeX code, must be specified with all
capital letters. (I tried changing the simple test file to say
\begin{cjk} and LaTeX failed, complaining of an unknown environment.
The test file does include \usepackage{CJK} and it works with
\begin{CJK} so the lowercase definitely means misspelled here.)

The Beamer exporter assumes that environment names will be all lowercase:

 ;; Use specified environment.
 (t (downcase env)

I added my entry into org-beamer-environments-extra with the name
CJK -- so, when org-beamer-- format-block looks up the environment's
formatting spec according to the down-cased name cjk, it finds
nothing and then does not render the environment. But, if I were to
name the environment-extra as cjk, then the exporter would write
\begin{cjk} which I've already found will break.

I will temporarily work around the problem by removing downcase.
That should get me going for the slides I need to prepare today and
tomorrow. But there must be a more elegant solution. I'm not sure what
that is, but I am certain that it is not safe to assume environments
will always be named using only lowercase letters.

One more reason to fix: There is one out-of-the-box environment,
noteNH, which includes capital letters in the name. This one is also
broken -- does not appear in the output. I.e., you can encounter the
bug without customizing anything.

hjh



Re: [O] Beamer export ignoring org-beamer-environments-extra?

2013-04-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com writes:

 The Beamer exporter assumes that environment names will be all lowercase:

  ;; Use specified environment.
  (t (downcase env)

It should now be fixed. Thank you for the detailed report.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] bug with org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift?

2013-04-20 Thread Bastien
Hi Ingmar,

Ingmar Meissner i...@ingmarmeissner.de writes:

 it seems to me that org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift is not
 working correct with org-mode 8.0. Usually i could specify a time
 shift, but not anymore. Did i miss something?

David explanations are correct, but your email made me think I've
been too heavy-handed with this change.

It makes more sense to skip the time-shift prompt when there is no
time-stamp and to have it by default when there is a time-stamp.  So
this is now how the command behaves.  And when called with C-u, it
will skip the time-shift prompt unconditionally.

Thanks for bringing this up!

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Can't Sort with New, 8.0 Sort Methods

2013-04-20 Thread Bastien
Hi Richard,

Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes:

 And mentioned a fix that works for me here:
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/70893

I applied your fix, thanks a lot for it!

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Bug: org-refresh-category-properties: Invalid function: org-with-silent-modifications [8.0 (8.0-3-g7248fb-elpaplus @ /home/gcharron/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20130418/)]

2013-04-20 Thread Bastien
Hi Gilles,

Gilles Charron writes:

 Can't display agenda or sparse tree on org 8.0; (installed via elpa) always 
 reporting:

 org-indent-add-properties: Invalid function: org-with-silent-modifications

You probably hit the famous ELPA installation bug, which is mentioned
early in the 8.0 release notes.

When installing from ELPA, please do so from a fresh Emacs session
where no Org function has been called.

If you still have the bug, please consider using the .tar.gz
distribution instead.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Does Org support Related or See Also Properties?

2013-04-20 Thread Bastien
Hi Nick,

Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com writes:

 When exported into an agenda, the consolidated org agenda would read:

 Friday   19 April 2013
   customer:  09:00-09:30 Scheduled:  TODO Meeting with Pete

 Are these wild dreams just dreams, or does Org Mode support such lovely
 magic?

The problem is: what would RET do on this agenda line?  Go to which
entry?  You can always put some hacks in `org-agenda-finalize-hook'
but it's easier to try to keep your Org files clean ;)

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] [babel] Purpose of :results raw

2013-04-20 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hello Nicolas,

Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
 Sebastien Vauban writes:

 Now that :results drawer has been introduced, I wonder why we still have
 :results raw.

 As once stated in this ML:

  The sole purpose of raw results is to allow inserting an headline (I
  mean a real headline, not comma protected) in the buffer, because
  headlines cannot be contained in anything else than headlines.

 But drawer does the same.

 What makes you think drawers do the same?

The fact that the following output a normally behaving headline[1], AFAICS.

--8---cut here---start-8---
#+begin_src sh :results drawer :exports both
echo * Unescaped headline
#+end_src

#+results:
:RESULTS:
* Unescaped headline
:END:
--8---cut here---end---8---

Though, effectively, when exported, it's not right:

--8---cut here---start-8---
\lstset{language=sh,numbers=none}
\begin{lstlisting}
  echo * Unescaped headline
\end{lstlisting}

:RESULTS:

\section*{Unescaped headline}
\label{sec-7}
:END:
--8---cut here---end---8---

as :RESULTS: and :END: words aren't removed from the export.

 Drawers cannot contain headlines.

Do you mean it, because of the wrong export?  By wrong, I don't mean buggy,
but not foreseen as I (= me) thought.

Best regards,
  Seb

[1] Correct face used in the Org buffer, correct folding when TAB'ing, etc.

-- 
Sebastien Vauban




Re: [O] ox-taskjuggler : Correct a small typo and deal with Scheduled and deadline in task

2013-04-20 Thread Bastien
Hi Baptiste,

Baptiste bate...@bat.fr.eu.org writes:

 hereafter a small typo correction,  plus the capability to use DEADLINE:
 and SCHEDULED: in task (special export format for milestones).

I applied the code typo fix, thanks!
http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/?id=774b53

As for the other part, I'll let Christian review/apply it.
If you can, send this change as a git commit with git format-patch,
with a proper changelog, that's far easier for the reviewer.

See http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html#sec-4-2

Best,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] New exporter and defgroup

2013-04-20 Thread Bastien
Hi,

yes, this *is* a problem.

Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes:

 Can we have some sort of a check while loading Org that picks up these
 shadowed variables and deletes them?

I think Achim has been thinking about some incantation for this
(at install time).  Maybe if this can be done after installation,
we could document it somewhere... not really sure.

I didn't want to change defgroup, it would have been confusing 
to have to groups for the same purpose -- with no real clue on
which one was the most recent one.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] APPT_WARNTIME not honored anymore in 8.0

2013-04-20 Thread Ivan Kanis
April, 19 at 19:48 Bastien wrote:

 I should get a notice 17mn before 20:00 that I need to go to karaoke.
 Now it does the default 90mn. It's a regression.

 I can't reproduce this -- I assume you added the appointment with
 `org-agenda-to-appt', right?

AFAIK yes. I might have time next week to investigate.
-- 
It's the InterNIC's fault.
-- BOFH excuse #3



Re: [O] New exporter and defgroup

2013-04-20 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes:
 Can we have some sort of a check while loading Org that picks up these
 shadowed variables and deletes them?

 I think Achim has been thinking about some incantation for this
 (at install time).  Maybe if this can be done after installation,
 we could document it somewhere... not really sure.

It would have to be done each time Org is loaded.  Unfortunately Emacs
doesn't provide an interface for removing such definitions, so you'd
have to traverse a number of not-too-well documented data structures to
get rid of them.  I'm still not sure I found all of these nor if there
are adverse effects of doing that.  Eric Frage (IIRC) was testing a
rough version of what I was trying to do, he reported he was seeing
problems that he wanted to investigate further.  Now, with the dust from
all the other changes settling, we might pick up where we left before:

--8---cut here---start-8---
;;
;; Kill our ancestors
;;

;; clean load-path
(setq load-path
  (delq nil (mapcar
 (function (lambda (p)
 (unless (string-match lisp/org$ p)
   p))
   load-path)))
;; remove property list to defeat cus-load and remove autoloads
(mapatoms (function  (lambda (s)
   (let ((sn (symbol-name s)))
 (when (string-match ^\\(org\\|ob\\|ox\\)-? sn)
   (setplist s nil)
   (when (autoloadp s)
 (unintern s)))
(add-to-list 'load-path /path/to/org)
(load org-loaddefs.el nil nil 'nosuffix)
--8---cut here---end---8---

This assumes it is run before any Org functions have been used and makes
no attempt to check if that's true.  Another unverified assumption is
that nothing has polluted the namespaces that Org uses.


Regards,
Achim.
-- 
+[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+

Wavetables for the Terratec KOMPLEXER:
http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KomplexerWaves




Re: [O] New maintainer

2013-04-20 Thread Jambunathan K
Tassilo Horn t...@gnu.org writes:

 Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:

 How do you interpret the following block extracted from my assignment

 ,
 | 2. Developer will report occasionally, on Developer’s initiative
 | and whenever requested by FSF, the changes and/ or enhancements
 | which are covered by this contract, and (to the extent known to
 ^^^
 ^^^
 ^^^
 | Developer) any outstanding rights, or claims of rights, of any
 | person, that might be adverse to the rights of Developer or FSF
 | or to the purpose of this contract.
 `

 Well, the FSF's intention here is to make sure that contributors report
 back when they change employers, and the new employer doesn't want that
 his employees contribute to some GNU project (maybe because that project
 is in the same business as the company).  So I think of that more of a
 safety measure in order not to run into long-running, painful
 lawsuits.

Your interpretation is too narrow.  The phrase and (marked above)
there makes all the difference.

My reading of the above para and Richard's response down below are
consistent.

  ,  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-04/msg00066.html
  | If a contributor wants to specify precisely which changes are
  | assigned, he, she or it can talk with the FSF about it.  We can
  | work something out.  However, we'd prefer to be able to use all of
  | someone's changes without specific arrangements.
  `

 FSF clearly side-steps the important question - when is a work
 actually assigned.  Assignment is not a process but an event tied to
 specific time and date.

 As far as I understand it (just after reading one of my FSF CAs), the
 changes you apply to a program where you've assigned past  future
 changes are assigned as soon as they are written.  They don't need to be
 published, distributed, placed in a special repository location, etc.

Assignment of rights is for the purpose of defending GPL.  It is *not*
and *cannot* be an annexation policy.  What you state above amounts to
annexation policy.

Assignment of rights is my prerogative.  I can do it selectively or
cancel it.  FSF cannot interfere with what is an individual decision.

I will only quote an authoritative and responsible source. Focus on last
sentence in the below quote.

,  http://lwn.net/Articles/543436/
|
| Anyway, it's unfortunate the Corbet's article above doesn't
| reiterate the advantages of assigning to FSF to
| developers. Specifically, the FSF takes on the obligation of being
| the publisher of the code (which can sometimes be a dangerous act
| in today's world), and also, FSF handles enforcement of the GPL
| for the codebase. Finally, FSF gives a liberal license back to the
| developer (i.e., Jambunathan could have always made proprietary
| software out of his own assigned works after doing the
| assignment), and FSF further promises never to publish a
| proprietary version of the software itself.
|
`

I interpret proprietary above to mean any work (available to public,
it is GPL right?) that is not part of Emacs distribution.

Theoretically speaking, it is OK to have future assignment in place
*and* have works that are assigned, as well as non-assigned
*simultaneously*.  If a work is not part of Emacs, then it is not
assigned to FSF.  Simple and practical definition.



It is also important to note that the above paragraph from a FSF board
member is in some conflict with RMS's own claim.

, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-03/msg00409.html
|
| A diff for Emacs is always a change to Emacs.  I will think about
| the questions raised by a separate Lisp file.
|
`

In my opinion, the most appropriate thing to state would be 

   A diff to Emacs submitted to the official channels of the suite -
either the maintainer, mailing list or bug subsystem, *unless stated
otherwise* is potentially part of Emacs, in a non-revocable way.

It will be inappropriate for anyone to claim, my local changes to
doc-view.el that I share with a co-worker is a diff to Emacs and hence
part of Emacs.  A change is either part of Emacs or not.  When I say
Emacs, I mean the official GNU Emacs distributed from gnu.org.



Now the primary part of current dispute is that it falls in a grey area

1. My files are new.

2. Org in Emacs Bzr trunk is not the same as Org outside of Emacs
trunk.  One is part of Emacs while the other is not part of
Emacs.  There is a clear dichotomy here.  It is easy to answer
Is this file part of Emacs? with a Yes or No.  Saying that
a file is intended to be part of Emacs is 

Re: [O] Release 8.0

2013-04-20 Thread Xiao-Yong Jin

On Apr 19, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Brian van den Broek 
brian.van.den.br...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 18 Apr 2013 18:05, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 18.4.2013, at 18:41, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote:
 
   Dear all,
  
   I'm releasing Org 8.0.
 
  This is a beautiful release.  Just reading the list of changes wets
  my appetite to try it all out.  A looong list con contributors.
 
  Thanks to you all for your contributions!
 
 An intimidatingly long list of changes, actually. :-)
 
 For what it is worth, I think if Bastien erred in the list of contributors he 
 thanked, it was on the side of over-inclusion, rather than under. In the last 
 year or so, I think I've contributed a tiny change doc patch, a bug report or 
 two, and a few Please, could someone magically make it work like this? 
 messages, yet I find myself included.
 
Yes, indeed!  Honestly, I didn't read the long list of contributors that 
carefully at first.  I decided to take another read after through your message, 
and ... Wow... I really didn't expect my name be in the list, since I have only 
sent a few messages to the list.
 Congrats and thanks to all who helped in whatever way. The efforts from the 
 heroic and steady to minor and irregular have all helped to make my life 
 better.
 
Congratulations to all the orgmode users!  Please allow me to take this chance 
to express my sincere gratitude to everyone subscribed to this orgmode mailing 
list and also people who contributed in other ways!  It is you who have made 
orgmode so fantastic!

Best Regards,
Xiao-Yong




Re: [O] New maintainer

2013-04-20 Thread Ian Barton

On 18/04/13 22:52, Tom Davey wrote:

Hi everybody,

I'm just an Org user, one of the many anonymous persons who have
benefited from this fantastic piece of software. Over the past two
years I have come to use Org every day, all day long, more than any
other application with the possible exception of a Web browser. It's
hard to overestimate the value I receive from Org, the sheer personal
effectiveness I've gained.

Bastien, a thousand thanks for your work as maintainer. Thanks as well
to all the other skillful and creative programmers on this list who
make org continually more powerful and astonishing. Especial thanks to
Carsten, both for the past and now in advance as the new maintainer.

With grateful regards to all,
Tom Davey


Me too:) Many thanks to Bastien for all his hard work and for patiently 
answering questions and fixing bugs. Also welcome back to Carsten!


Best wishes,

Ian.





Re: [O] Beamer export ignoring org-beamer-environments-extra?

2013-04-20 Thread James Harkins
On Apr 20, 2013 2:34 PM, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote:
 James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com writes:

  The Beamer exporter assumes that environment names will be all
lowercase:
 
   ;; Use specified environment.
   (t (downcase env)

 It should now be fixed. Thank you for the detailed report.

I'm not able to test again right now, but in my earlier testing, simply
removing downcase was ok for my CJK extra but the export failed for noteNH
(something about stringp). It's worth testing that.

This turns out to have been quite an adventure anyway. I've been using the
Ubuntu packages for latex, which date back to 2009, and CJK itself isn't
getting a lot of developer attention. Consensus online seemed to be to
upgrade, so now I'm in the middle of 8-9 hours of downloads from texlive.
If I'm lucky, I *might* be able to try another beamer export right around
bedtime (7 pm now). :-|

hjh


[O] About documentation of macro replacement

2013-04-20 Thread xfq
I think info:org#Macro%20replacement should be refined.  I really don't
understand what this node is talking about.  It says:

  You can define text snippets with
 #+MACRO: name   replacement text $1, $2 are arguments

What does $1, $2 mean here?  It isn't mentioned before, and I only
know what it means in the spreadsheet.  And it doesn't look like a
C/Lisp/m4/TeX macro.

--
Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/



Re: [O] About documentation of macro replacement

2013-04-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

xfq xfq.f...@gmail.com writes:

 I think info:org#Macro%20replacement should be refined.  I really don't
 understand what this node is talking about.  It says:

   You can define text snippets with
  #+MACRO: name   replacement text $1, $2 are arguments

 What does $1, $2 mean here?  It isn't mentioned before, and I only
 know what it means in the spreadsheet.  And it doesn't look like a
 C/Lisp/m4/TeX macro.

$1 and $2 are placeholders for macro arguments. $1 will be replaced by
the first argument and $2 by the second one.

You can provide a new phrasing for the section and we'll consider adding
it to the manual.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] [babel] Purpose of :results raw

2013-04-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou


Hello,

Sebastien Vauban
wxhgmqzgwmuf-genee64ty+gs+fvcfc7...@public.gmane.org writes:

 The fact that the following output a normally behaving headline[1], AFAICS.

 #+begin_src sh :results drawer :exports both
 echo * Unescaped headline
 #+end_src

 #+results:
 :RESULTS:
 * Unescaped headline
 :END:

 Though, effectively, when exported, it's not right:

[...]

 Do you mean it, because of the wrong export?  By wrong, I don't mean buggy,
 but not foreseen as I (= me) thought.

Both cycling mechanism and fontification are bad indicators about the
syntax at point. Use either `org-element-at-point' or
`org-element-context' to know what is really parsed, according to the
Org syntax.

I will slowly integrate org-element-at-point in core interactive
functions, like visibility cycling. Though, fontification will have to
wait, because the parser isn't ready for that yet.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou




Re: [O] Bug: org-export-as doesn't work after update [8.0 (8.0-3-g7248fb-elpa @ /home/mike/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20130418/)]

2013-04-20 Thread Mike Vella
Can't this behaviour be fixed? It's quite confusing.
On 19 Apr 2013 23:28, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mike Vella vellam...@gmail.com writes:

  Hi Nicolas, But I don't understand why it autocompletes with tab if it no
  longer exists as a command? I think this is confusing behaviour?

 You may have loaded old org-html.el from Org bundled with Emacs.


 Regards,

 --
 Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] MobileOrg for iOS approved and soon to be available in the app store

2013-04-20 Thread David Jennings
Sean Escriva sean.escriva at gmail.com writes:

 
 For those interested in MobileOrg on iOS devices, it has been approved
 and will be back in the store soon, it can take up to 24 hours to
 become available.
 
 See this github issue for further info:
 https://github.com/MobileOrg/mobileorg/issues/24
 
 Enjoy!
 -sean

If you install Sean's update but still get the dreaded Unspecified Error
when syncing note that the location of the files have changed from MobileOrg
to Apps/MobileOrg (Sean mentioned elsewhere that this was required by the
new Dropbox API), so you'll have to update org-mobile-directory accordingly.

For instance, for a default install of Dropbox:

(setq org-mobile-directory ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg);

Cheers,

Dave.




Re: [O] Bug: org-export-as doesn't work after update [8.0 (8.0-3-g7248fb-elpa @ /home/mike/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20130418/)]

2013-04-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

Mike Vella vellam...@gmail.com writes:

 Can't this behaviour be fixed? It's quite confusing.
 On 19 Apr 2013 23:28, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mike Vella vellam...@gmail.com writes:

  Hi Nicolas, But I don't understand why it autocompletes with tab if it no
  longer exists as a command? I think this is confusing behaviour?

 You may have loaded old org-html.el from Org bundled with Emacs.

This is probably coming from your configuration. Check if you don't load
the wrong Org version before loading the correct one.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



[O] Tabular overview of org-element.el

2013-04-20 Thread Thorsten Jolitz

Hi Nicolas, Hi List, 

I prepared a tabular overview of org-element.el to get a better
understanding of how Nicolas modeled and Org file, and I thought it
might be useful for others so I share it here. 

I did not know where to put 'plain-link', but maybe I simply overlooked
it in one place. 

  ___

   ORG ELEMENTS - A TABULAR OVERVIEW

Thorsten Jolitz
  ___


2013-04-20 Sa


Table of Contents
_

1 org-element: Elements, Objects and Successors
.. 1.1 Elements
. 1.1.1 Abbreviations
. 1.1.2 Element List
.. 1.2 Objects
. 1.2.1 Object List
. 1.2.2 Object Variables
.. 1.3 Successors
. 1.3.1 Abbreviations
. 1.3.2 Sets of Successors
. 1.3.3 Objects restrictions
2 org-element: Keywords and Properties
.. 2.1 Affiliated Keywords
.. 2.2 Document Properties
3 Left-over





1 org-element: Elements, Objects and Successors
===

1.1 Elements


1.1.1 Abbreviations
---

   Abbrev   Meaning
  ---
   GE?  Greater Element?
   SecVal-Location  Secondary Value Location
   Recur?   Recursive?


1.1.2 Element List
--

Complete list of element types.

List of recursive element types aka Greater Elements.

Alist between element types and location of secondary
value.


   Element  GE?  SecVal-Location
  ---
   babel-call
   center-block X
   clock
   comment
   comment-block
   diary-sexp
   drawer   X
   dynamic-blockX
   example-block
   export-block
   fixed-width
   footnote-definition  X
   headline X:title
   horizontal-rule
   inlinetask   X:title
   item X:tag
   keyword
   latex-environment
   node-property
   paragraph
   plain-list   X
   planning
   property-drawer  X
   quote-block  X
   quote-section
   section  X
   special-blockX
   src-block
   tableX
   table-row
   verse-block


1.2 Objects
~~~

1.2.1 Object List
-

Complete list of object types.

List of recursive object types.

Alist of translations between object type and successor
name. Sharing the same successor comes handy when, for
example, the regexp matching one object can also match the
other object.

Alist between element types and location of secondary
value.


   Object  Recur?  Successor(type)  SecVal-Location
  -
   boldX   text-markup
   codetext-markup
   entity  latex-or-entity
   export-snippet  X
   footnote-reference  X:inline-definition
   inline-babel-call   X
   inline-src-blockX
   italic  X   text-markup
   line-break  X
   latex-fragment  latex-or-entity
   linkX   X
   macro   X
   radio-targetX   X
   statistics-cookie   X
   strike-through  X   text-markup
   subscript   X   sub/superscript
   superscript X   sub/superscript
   table-cell  X   X
   target  X
   timestamp   X
   underline   X   text-markup
   verbatimtext-markup


1.2.2 Object Variables
--

List of buffer-local variables used when parsing objects.
These variables are copied to the temporary buffer created
by `org-export-secondary-string'.

   object-variables  '(org-link-abbrev-alist-local)

  Example for `org-link-abbrev-alist-local'
  ,
  | ((bib . ~/bibtex/literatur.bib::%s)
  |  (notes . ~/git/org/notes.org::#%s)
  |  (papers . ~/doc/papers/%s.pdf))
  `


1.3 Successors
~~

1.3.1 Abbreviations
---

   abbrev   meaning
  -
   all  all successors
   std-set  standard-set
   std-set-nlb  standard-set-no-line-break
   l-setlink-set
   tc-set   table-cell-set
   tr-set   table-row-set
   rt-set   radio-target-set


1.3.2 Sets of Successors


Complete list of successors.

   members\set all  std-set  std-set-nlb  l-set  tc-set  tr-set  rt-set
  --
   export-snippet  XXXX  X
   footnote-reference  XXX   X
   inline-babel-call   XXXX
   inline-src-blockX 

Re: [O] phone links...

2013-04-20 Thread Daimrod
Michael Strey mst...@strey.biz writes:

 - You should use `org-link-display-format' instead of
   `org-contacts-strip-link'.

 I don't think so.  `org-link-display-format' returns the description of
 the link if there is one.  My `org-contacts-strip-link' always returns
 the target.  Using `org-link-display-format' would lead to wrong results
 with links like
  [[mailto:f...@bar.com][foo (at) bar (dot) com]]
  [[tel:+49 351 4129535][+49 (0)351 4129535]]

You're right, I had misunderstood the function.

 - You have done some unrelated changes (fix some typos, ...), could you
   provide a separated patches for them?

 Oh =:-|, another struggle with Git.  I'm still learning and will do my best.

If you're not already using magit[1] I highly recommend it to you. You
can use it to commit only a portion of the changes (you can also do it
with git commit --interactive but I find it easier with magit).

 Regarding `org-contacts-split-property', I haven't found anything about
 multiple values within a node property in `org-element' and the syntax
 description doesn't mention it, so you were right to roll your own. :)

 That wasn't me.  This (disputable) feature was already there for the
 :EMAIL: proprerty.  Actually, I don't like multiple values within a node
 property and would prefer a VCard-like syntax like

 #+BEGIN_SRC org
 *** Strey, Michael
 :PROPERTIES:
 :KIND: individual
 :ORG:  STREY Consult
 :FN:   Michael Strey
 :N:Strey;Michael;;
 :ADR;TYPE=home:;;my street;my city;federal state;post code;my country
 :EMAIL:   mailto:st...@myprovider.de
 :EMAIL;PREF=1:mailto:m...@mycompany.biz
 :TEL;TYPE=fax,work:[[tel:0321 21104568]]
 :TEL;TYPE=fax,home:[[tel:0351 4129535]]
 :TEL;TYPE=voice,home:[[tel:0351 4129535]]
 :LANG: de
 :ICON: ~/GTD/Icons/icon-strey_michael.jpg
 :END:
 #+END_SRC

I must admit I am unsure about this. On one side it does solve some
problems, on the other side I don't really like the idea of adding this
extra syntax on top of properties.

I think it's fine to use semicolons to separate values in node
properties, but I would like to expose a clean API to manipulate users
and user's properties so that we don't have to use `*-split-*'
everywhere.

For example it could expose your previous example into this:
#+BEGIN_SRC lisp
  '((kind individual)
(org STREY Consult)
(fn Michael Strey)
(n (Stry Michael ))
(adr (  my street my city federal state post code my country) 
:type home)
(email mailto:st...@myprovider.de;)
(email mailto:m...@mycompany.biz; :pref 1)
(tel [[tel:0321 21104568]] :type fax,work)
(tel [[tel:0351 4129535]] :type fax,home)
(tel [[tel:0351 4129535]] :type voice,home)
(lang de)
(icon ~/GTD/Icons/icon-strey_michael.jpg))  
#+END_SRC

 However, I think it would be better to store the separators in a
 variable (like `org-contacts-property-values-separator') and maybe even
 to use it by default instead of `split-string-default-separators'
 because we use it more and because it's easy to forget.

 That was already hard-coded before in Feng's
 `org-contacts-vcard-format'.  But yes, you are right.  Since it is
 limited by some constraints we should make it an extra variable.

 
  +(loop for email in (org-contacts-split-property 
  email-list)

 
  +  for gravatar = (gravatar-retrieve-synchronously 
  (org-contacts-strip-link email))

 This should be correctly and worked for me during my tests.
 Confusingly `email-list' is not a list but a string here.

My bad (again :/).

Regards,

1. https://github.com/magit/magit

-- 
Daimrod/Greg


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Re: [O] Tabular overview of org-element.el

2013-04-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes:

 I prepared a tabular overview of org-element.el to get a better
 understanding of how Nicolas modeled and Org file, and I thought it
 might be useful for others so I share it here. 

 I did not know where to put 'plain-link', but maybe I simply overlooked
 it in one place.

It belongs to `org-element-all-successors', which means it is
a successor. Actually, it is a dumbed down successor for links, as it
only finds plain links, i.e. links with no markup at all. E.g.,

  http://orgmode.org

This is necessary as some contexts (i.e. link descriptions) can only
contain such links.

HTH,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



[O] Org Mode 8

2013-04-20 Thread Paul Schlesinger
After replacing 7.9.4 with 8.0 the link insertion gave a variable void error 
that was corrected by re-installing 7.9.4.  After browsing the * update files 
and seeing nothing that was helpful I send this message and continue using 
7.9.4. 




Re: [O] Org Mode 8

2013-04-20 Thread John Hendy
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Paul Schlesinger
phschlesin...@gmail.com wrote:
 After replacing 7.9.4 with 8.0 the link insertion gave a variable void error
 that was corrected by re-installing 7.9.4.  After browsing the * update files
 and seeing nothing that was helpful I send this message and continue using
 7.9.4.

We'll need more details to help you. At the very least, what was the
variable that was flagged as void? This wouldn't be uncommon, as a lot
of names changed in the 8.0 release. Did you scan the upgrade guide?
- http://orgmode.org/worg/org-8.0.html

The first possibility that came to mind was a variable like
org-export-backend-* (where backend = html, latex, etc.) which has now
been renamed to org-backend-*.

But again, with no details at all... we won't be able to help you.


Thanks!
John






Re: [O] Tabular overview of org-element.el

2013-04-20 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello,

 Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes:

 I prepared a tabular overview of org-element.el to get a better
 understanding of how Nicolas modeled and Org file, and I thought it
 might be useful for others so I share it here. 

 I did not know where to put 'plain-link', but maybe I simply overlooked
 it in one place.

 It belongs to `org-element-all-successors', which means it is
 a successor. Actually, it is a dumbed down successor for links, as it
 only finds plain links, i.e. links with no markup at all. E.g.,

   http://orgmode.org

 This is necessary as some contexts (i.e. link descriptions) can only
 contain such links.


Whats kind of confusing for me is that all other successors are either
'atomic' objects or 'object-categories' containing 'atomic' objects:

,
| Object  Recur?  Successor(type)  SecVal-Location
|   -
|boldX   text-markup
|codetext-markup
|entity  latex-or-entity
|export-snippet  X
|footnote-reference  X:inline-definition
|inline-babel-call   X
|inline-src-blockX
|italic  X   text-markup
|line-break  X
|latex-fragment  latex-or-entity
|linkX   X
|macro   X
|radio-targetX   X
|statistics-cookie   X
|strike-through  X   text-markup
|subscript   X   sub/superscript
|superscript X   sub/superscript
|table-cell  X   X
|target  X
|timestamp   X
|underline   X   text-markup
|verbatimtext-markup
`

Only plain-link is an 'outlier' in this systematic. What is a link like 

,---
| http://orgmode.org
`---

then, when encountered in an Org document? If its not an object nor an
element, then it is (anonymous) part of the String that forms a paragraph?
Its easy to understand that some objects can be successors of other
objects/elements, others not, and that its sometimes convenient to
organize similar successor objects into successor-categories. 

Its not so easy to understand how something can be a successor but not
an object. 

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten




Re: [O] Tabular overview of org-element.el

2013-04-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes:

 Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello,

 Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes:

 I prepared a tabular overview of org-element.el to get a better
 understanding of how Nicolas modeled and Org file, and I thought it
 might be useful for others so I share it here. 

 I did not know where to put 'plain-link', but maybe I simply overlooked
 it in one place.

 It belongs to `org-element-all-successors', which means it is
 a successor. Actually, it is a dumbed down successor for links, as it
 only finds plain links, i.e. links with no markup at all. E.g.,

   http://orgmode.org

 This is necessary as some contexts (i.e. link descriptions) can only
 contain such links.


 Whats kind of confusing for me is that all other successors are either
 'atomic' objects or 'object-categories' containing 'atomic' objects:

 ,
 | Object  Recur?  Successor(type)  SecVal-Location
 |   -
 |boldX   text-markup
 |codetext-markup
 |entity  latex-or-entity
 |export-snippet  X
 |footnote-reference  X:inline-definition
 |inline-babel-call   X
 |inline-src-blockX
 |italic  X   text-markup
 |line-break  X
 |latex-fragment  latex-or-entity
 |linkX   X
 |macro   X
 |radio-targetX   X
 |statistics-cookie   X
 |strike-through  X   text-markup
 |subscript   X   sub/superscript
 |superscript X   sub/superscript
 |table-cell  X   X
 |target  X
 |timestamp   X
 |underline   X   text-markup
 |verbatimtext-markup
 `

 Only plain-link is an 'outlier' in this systematic. What is a link like 

 ,---
 | http://orgmode.org
 `---

 then, when encountered in an Org document? If its not an object nor an
 element, then it is (anonymous) part of the String that forms a paragraph?
 Its easy to understand that some objects can be successors of other
 objects/elements, others not, and that its sometimes convenient to
 organize similar successor objects into successor-categories. 

 Its not so easy to understand how something can be a successor but not
 an object.

http://orgmode.org; _is_ a link object, like [[http://orgmode.org]].
There are two successors for the same object type, one being more
selective than the other.

This special successor was introduced (lately) because there was no
image syntax in Org. So we needed to recognize:

  [[http://orgmode.org][./unicorn.jpg]]

as an image pointing to an URL. In fact, we could separate `plain-link'
objects from `link' objects, but the benefit is not obvious, so
`plain-link' is just considered as a sub-type of `link'.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] Does Org support Related or See Also Properties?

2013-04-20 Thread Nick M. Daly
Hi Bastien, thanks for the prompt reply.

Bastien writes:

 When exported into an agenda, the consolidated org agenda would read:

 Friday   19 April 2013
   customer:  09:00-09:30 Scheduled:  TODO Meeting with Pete

 The problem is: what would RET do on this agenda line?  Go to which
 entry?  You can always put some hacks in `org-agenda-finalize-hook'
 but it's easier to try to keep your Org files clean ;)

I would assume that RET would jump to the source item (the one with the
See also property).  It's unfortunately difficult for me to keep my
source files clean: my schedule is composed of three different and
unrelated sources, which vary daily.  I export those sources to three
different org files and combine those with my personal schedule to
figure out what needs to be done every day.

Since the exported sources get overwritten, I have to copy each event
into my own (clean) org file and then unschedule the exported one, to
keep the agenda clean.  It's... silly, but it mostly works.

If anybody wants a spreadsheet-to-org-file exporter, just let me
know. :)

Nick


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Re: [O] Tabular overview of org-element.el

2013-04-20 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes:

 Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello,

 Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes:

 I prepared a tabular overview of org-element.el to get a better
 understanding of how Nicolas modeled and Org file, and I thought it
 might be useful for others so I share it here. 

 I did not know where to put 'plain-link', but maybe I simply overlooked
 it in one place.

 It belongs to `org-element-all-successors', which means it is
 a successor. Actually, it is a dumbed down successor for links, as it
 only finds plain links, i.e. links with no markup at all. E.g.,

   http://orgmode.org

 This is necessary as some contexts (i.e. link descriptions) can only
 contain such links.


 Whats kind of confusing for me is that all other successors are either
 'atomic' objects or 'object-categories' containing 'atomic' objects:

 ,
 | Object  Recur?  Successor(type)  SecVal-Location
 |   -
 |boldX   text-markup
 |codetext-markup
 |entity  latex-or-entity
 |export-snippet  X
 |footnote-reference  X:inline-definition
 |inline-babel-call   X
 |inline-src-blockX
 |italic  X   text-markup
 |line-break  X
 |latex-fragment  latex-or-entity
 |linkX   X
 |macro   X
 |radio-targetX   X
 |statistics-cookie   X
 |strike-through  X   text-markup
 |subscript   X   sub/superscript
 |superscript X   sub/superscript
 |table-cell  X   X
 |target  X
 |timestamp   X
 |underline   X   text-markup
 |verbatimtext-markup
 `

 Only plain-link is an 'outlier' in this systematic. What is a link like 

 ,---
 | http://orgmode.org
 `---

 then, when encountered in an Org document? If its not an object nor an
 element, then it is (anonymous) part of the String that forms a paragraph?
 Its easy to understand that some objects can be successors of other
 objects/elements, others not, and that its sometimes convenient to
 organize similar successor objects into successor-categories. 

 Its not so easy to understand how something can be a successor but not
 an object.

 http://orgmode.org; _is_ a link object, like [[http://orgmode.org]].
 There are two successors for the same object type, one being more
 selective than the other.

 This special successor was introduced (lately) because there was no
 image syntax in Org. So we needed to recognize:

   [[http://orgmode.org][./unicorn.jpg]]

 as an image pointing to an URL. In fact, we could separate `plain-link'
 objects from `link' objects, but the benefit is not obvious, so
 `plain-link' is just considered as a sub-type of `link'.

So in fact there are link objects that might belong to 'decorated-link'
or 'plain-link', but this has not been made explicit because there is
only one special case where its not sufficient to simply use super-type
'link'. 

Maybe its worth to notice that wrt 'plain-link' there are some hidden
implicit things going on in the background. First of all, there are no
other subtypes of object-types - object 'link' would be the only
object-type with two subtypes ('plain-link' and 'decorated-link' or
whatever). And the object 'link' is used as successor but does not fit
all situations where a link can be used. 

I know this might be of no practical relevance at the moment, and might
seem like a case of excessive pea-counting, but now that Org-mode has
such a wonderful parsing and exporting framework, there might well be a
trend towards more formalization in the future - and this will cause
hiccups for anyone who tries such formalization. 

To keep the system consistent, there should be two types of link objects
('plain-link' and 'decorated-link') that are both successors too, and
maybe additionally a successor category 'link' that can be applied when
distinction between the two link object-types does not matter.

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten




Re: [O] Tabular overview of org-element.el

2013-04-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes:

 So in fact there are link objects that might belong to 'decorated-link'
 or 'plain-link', but this has not been made explicit because there is
 only one special case where its not sufficient to simply use super-type
 'link'.

That and the fact that it was introduced very recently.

 Maybe its worth to notice that wrt 'plain-link' there are some hidden
 implicit things going on in the background. First of all, there are no
 other subtypes of object-types - object 'link' would be the only
 object-type with two subtypes ('plain-link' and 'decorated-link' or
 whatever). And the object 'link' is used as successor but does not fit
 all situations where a link can be used.

Actually there is also `radio-link' sub-type. But it doesn't need its
own successor function so far.

 I know this might be of no practical relevance at the moment, and might
 seem like a case of excessive pea-counting, but now that Org-mode has
 such a wonderful parsing and exporting framework, there might well be a
 trend towards more formalization in the future - and this will cause
 hiccups for anyone who tries such formalization.

To be honest, I hope that Org will grow a proper syntax for images
instead (i.e. without overloading link syntax). Many (most?) text markup
languages have one (e.g. Markdown). If it does, the `plain-link'
successor becomes useless and the case is closed.

 To keep the system consistent, there should be two types of link objects
 ('plain-link' and 'decorated-link') that are both successors too, and
 maybe additionally a successor category 'link' that can be applied when
 distinction between the two link object-types does not matter.

That's what I talked about indeed, but besides consistency, there's not
much benefit to do that. I'd rather have images as full-fledged objects,
something like:

  [img:]

which could possibly be extended with properties for export:

  [img: :prop1 val1 :prop2 val2]


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] Superscripts and subscripts

2013-04-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com writes:

 Nicolas Goaziou writes:
 Of course, we could work around this with a new rule saying the longest
 match wins, which, in this case, is the underline. But it would be
 better to find a more elegant solution, one which would remove the sole
 ambiguity, AFAICT, in Org syntax.

 How did this work before? I never tried subscript after whitespace. But
 we had both superscript-after-whitespace and
 underlining-with-underscores working at the same time, without the
 ambiguity causing problems as far as I remember.

Simple: underline text was always handled (i.e. protected for further
transformation) before subscript.

But this doesn't remove the ambiguity. It just adds another parameter:
the parsing order.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] Superscripts and subscripts

2013-04-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes:

 Nicolas Goaziou writes:
 Of course, we could work around this with a new rule saying the longest
 match wins, which, in this case, is the underline. But it would be
 better to find a more elegant solution, one which would remove the sole
 ambiguity, AFAICT, in Org syntax.

 Suggestions welcome.

 How about {}^{14}C or {^{14}}C?

It means that a white space before a sub/superscript marker is invalid.
In that case, we can also use \nbsp entity instead of {}. It's longer,
but more standard.

Another option would be to change syntax for underline, doubling the
underscore characters:

  __underline__

The other advantage is that it may be less ambiguous if we ever allow
text markup within words.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] Bug in new exporter with babel blocks

2013-04-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

Aaron Ecay aarone...@gmail.com writes:

 2013ko urtarrilak 23an, Nicolas Goaziou-ek idatzi zuen:
 You needn't. org-exp-blocks functionalities are supported by the new
 exporter out of the box.

 Can you say more about this?  I looked for but did not find a
 replacement to the org-export-blocks variable (an alist associating
 block types with functions to export them).  I found it very easy to
 hook into the new exporter, but perhaps I missed something?

No, you didn't miss anything. I was thinking about
`org-special-blocks.el'. The exporter doesn't implement org-exp-blocks
functionalities.

Though, IIRC, org-exp-blocks was mostly deprecated when Babel was
introduced. That's why old ditaa and dot exp-blocks were moved to src
block languages.

 For parsing, yes.  But for export I want a way to say “I don’t care what
 Org thinks the export of this block is.  Give me the raw contents, and I
 will tell you what the export should be.”

 This is how the ditaa special-block code used to work; I see that it has
 now morphed into a babel language, which makes some kind of sense.  I’m
 not sure it does in general.

 My use case is glossed examples for linguistics: my special block
 contains three lines, which are a sentence in a foreign language and a
 translation.  By inserting markup in a way which is easy to automate,
 you can get LaTeX to align the words of one language with the words of
 the other.  I don’t want any org processing of the text of the examples:
 it might contain backslashes, stars, etc., all of which should be passed
 verbatim to LaTeX.  This does not feel like source code, it cannot be
 evaluated or tangled, I would not want these blocks to be included in
 org-babel-next-src-block, etc.

It is data. Source code is for the processing function.

Anyway, just store your text in example blocks, and create a src block
in any language to do the processing. Then you can call the processing
function on all of your example blocks.

I suggest to keep the example blocks in a non-exportable section. You
can also remove all named example blocks before export, via a hook. Your
call.

#+begin_src org
* Data  
:noexport:
  
  #+name: words
  #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
  a b c
  #+END_EXAMPLE
  
  #+name: 
  #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :var x=words
  (upcase x)
  #+END_SRC

* Contents

  #+call: words(:var x=words)
#+end_src


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] Tabular overview of org-element.el

2013-04-20 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 To keep the system consistent, there should be two types of link objects
 ('plain-link' and 'decorated-link') that are both successors too, and
 maybe additionally a successor category 'link' that can be applied when
 distinction between the two link object-types does not matter.

 That's what I talked about indeed, but besides consistency, there's not
 much benefit to do that. I'd rather have images as full-fledged objects,
 something like:

   [img:]

 which could possibly be extended with properties for export:

   [img: :prop1 val1 :prop2 val2]

That sounds like a very good idea to me, from the point of view of a
user, and from the point of view of somebody who tries to understand the
system you used for modeling Org files. And consistency can turn out
very beneficial in the long run, even if the benefits are not so obvious
at the moment. 

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten




[O] Bug: Footnotes break iCalendar export [8.0.1 (release_8.0.1 @ /home/rwl/src/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-04-20 Thread Richard Lawrence

Hi Org maintainers,

I've been trying to get iCalendar export working with my agenda files
again since upgrading to 8.0, and I've found that footnotes break the
agenda export to .ics.  The problem is that a plain text version of the
footnotes in the file ends up in the output floating loose---not
wrapped by VEVENT tags or any other tags---resulting in an unparseable
.ics file (at least according to Google Calendar).

Here's a sample Org file to illustrate:

* Entry 1
  This entry has some text with an inline footnote[fn:: which isn't
  very interesting]
* Entry 2
  This entry has some text with an external footnote[fn:1]
* Appointment with Someone
  2013-04-20 Sat 15:00
* Footnotes
[fn:1] which still isn't very interesting

And here's the output I get when I export this
(via C-c a  a C-x C-w /tmp/test.ics):

BEGIN:VCALENDAR
VERSION:2.0
X-WR-CALNAME:OrgMode
PRODID:-//Richard Lawrence//Emacs with Org mode//EN
X-WR-TIMEZONE:America/Los_Angeles
X-WR-CALDESC:
CALSCALE:GREGORIAN
BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTAMP:20130420T211153Z
UID:TS1-5b8f14ac-d380-437f-88dd-4ed0a4ebacb9
DTSTART:20130420T15
DTEND:20130420T17
SUMMARY:Appointment with Someone
DESCRIPTION:2013-04-20 Sat 15:00
CATEGORIES:test
END:VEVENT



Footnotes
─

[1] which isn't very interesting

[2] which still isn't very interesting
END:VCALENDAR

Note that I still seem to get the behavior when I restrict the export to
headlines matching certain tags.  In that case, even footnotes from
entries which should not be exported end up in the output, which seems
pretty strange.

It doesn't make much sense to me to have footnotes when exporting to a
calendar format, so is there any way to suppress exporting footnotes in
this case?

Thanks!

Best,
Richard



Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1)
 of 2013-01-08 on murphy, modified by Debian
Package: Org-mode version 8.0.1 (release_8.0.1 @ /home/rwl/src/org-mode/lisp/)

current state:
==
(setq
 org-todo-keyword-faces '((WAITING . orange))
 org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-default-hook 
org-babel-speed-command-hook)
 org-agenda-custom-commands '((r Reading list tags-todo +reading) (S . 
STUDY context searches) (Sf todo FIND) (Sp todo PRINT)
  (Sr todo READ) (Sn todo NOTES) (St 
tags-todo +STUDY) (P tags-todo +CAMPUS) (D tags-todo +COMPUTER)
  (H tags-todo +HOME) (E tags-todo 
ERRAND|BUY) (F tags +FREETIME) (X tags-todo +EXERCISE)
  (Z Export to iCalendar file tags 
event|appointment nil 
(~/Documents/website/public_html/lib/attachments/calendar.ics))
  )
 org-agenda-files '(~/Documents/philosophy/dissertation/tasks.org 
~/org/school.org ~/org/life.org ~/org/beer.org ~/org/food.org)
 org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
 org-capture-templates '((s School)
 (st Todo entry (file+olp ~/org/school.org 
Tasks Spring 2013) (file ~/org/templates/todo.txt) :prepend t)
 (sy Todo (from active region or kill ring) entry 
(file+olp ~/org/school.org Tasks Spring 2013)
  (file ~/org/templates/todo-with-yank.txt) :prepend 
t)
 (sl Todo (with link) entry (file+olp 
~/org/school.org Tasks Spring 2013) (file 
~/org/templates/todo-with-link.txt)
  :prepend t)
 (se Event entry (file+headline ~/org/school.org 
Events) (file ~/org/templates/event.txt) :prepend t)
 (sr Reading entry (file+olp ~/org/school.org 
Reading list) (file ~/org/templates/reading.txt) :prepend t)
 (sa Appointment entry (file+olp ~/org/school.org 
Tasks Spring 2013) (file ~/org/templates/appointment.txt) :prepend t)
 (sb Bookmark entry (file+olp ~/org/school.org 
Bookmarks) (file ~/org/templates/bookmark-school.txt))
 (sc Class entry (file+olp ~/org/school.org 
Semester Schedule Spring 2013 Classes) (file ~/org/templates/class.txt))
 (ss Semester entry (file+olp ~/org/school.org 
Semester Schedule) (file ~/org/templates/semester.txt) :prepend t)
 (d Dissertation)
 (dt Todo entry (file+olp 
~/Documents/philosophy/dissertation/tasks.org Tasks) (file 
~/org/templates/todo.txt) :prepend t)
 (de Event entry (file+headline 
~/Documents/philosophy/dissertation/tasks.org Events) (file 
~/org/templates/event.txt)
  :prepend t)
 (dr Reading entry (file+olp 
~/Documents/philosophy/dissertation/tasks.org Reading list)
  (file ~/org/templates/reading.txt) :prepend t)
 (da Appointment entry (file+olp 
~/Documents/philosophy/dissertation/tasks.org Tasks)
  (file ~/org/templates/appointment.txt) :prepend t)
 (db Bookmark entry 

Re: [O] [PATCH 04/10] Add 'light argument to some uses of org-babel-get-src-block-info

2013-04-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Aaron Ecay aarone...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi Eric,

 2013ko apirilak 3an, Eric Schulte-ek idatzi zuen:
 
 Aaron Ecay aarone...@gmail.com writes:
 
 * lisp/ob-core.el (org-babel-do-key-sequence-in-edit-buffer),
 (org-babel-expand-noweb-references),
 * lisp/ob-tangle.el (org-babel-tangle):
 Use 'light argument to `org-babel-get-src-block-info'.
 
 I'd like to apply this patch, however tracing the effects of these
 changes can be tricky and `org-babel-expand-noweb-references' and
 `org-babel-tangle' are both core functions.
 
 Have you run the test suite to confirm that these changes don't break
 any existing tests?

 The test suite gives no failures with this patch.

Then please go ahead and apply this patch (or re-send it to me and I can
apply it).

Cheers,

-- 
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte



Re: [O] [babel] Specified colnames

2013-04-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes:

 Eric,

 Eric Schulte wrote:
 Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes:
 Eric Schulte wrote:
 Extra question: tested with a sh block, both of the above do work, that is
 with strings or symbols. Which one is supposed to be better (that is, 
 will be
 more portable with time), if there is one?

 Both will be maintained.  The contribution of a test exercising both
 options could provide an extra guarantee of perseverance.  This is also
 a good first step towards editing the code. :)

 Here's my trial to do so [...].
 Does this correspond to what you're asking for?

 Close, could you prepare this as a patch against the current code base?
 That way I can simply apply it locally and more easily test it.


See the above, could you prepare this as a patch so that I can more
easily read/use/test it?

Thanks,


 I've fixed the abortion problem I had with the test...

 Updated version:

 --8---cut here---start-8---
 (ert-deftest test-ob/specific-colnames ()
   Test passing specific column names.
   (should
(equal #+name: input-table
 | id | var1 |
 |+--|
 |  1 | bar  |
 |  2 | baz  |

 #+begin_src sh :var data=input-table :exports results :colnames '(Rev Author)
 echo \$data\
 #+end_src

 #+results:
 | Rev | Author |
 |-+|
 |   1 | bar|
 |   2 | baz|

 
 (org-test-with-temp-text #+name: input-table
 | id | var1 |
 |+--|
 |  1 | bar  |
 |  2 | baz  |

 #+begin_src sh :var data=input-table :exports results :colnames '(Rev Author)
 echo \$data\
 #+end_src
 
  (org-babel-execute-src-block)
  (buffer-string)
 --8---cut here---end---8---

 Though, it generates an incomprehensible error (for me):

 --8---cut here---start-8---
 Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument consp nil)
   apply(debug (error (wrong-type-argument consp nil)))
   ert--run-test-debugger([cl-struct-ert--test-execution-info 
 [cl-struct-ert-test test-ob/specific-colnames Test passing specific column 
 names. (lambda nil (let ((fn-802 (function equal)) (args-803 (list #+name: 
 input-table\n| id | var1 |\n|+--|\n|  1 | bar  |\n|  2 | baz  
 |\n\n#+begin_src sh :var data=input-table :exports results :colnames '(Rev 
 Author)\necho \$data\\n#+end_src\n\n#+results:\n| Rev | Author 
 |\n|-+|\n|   1 | bar|\n|   2 | baz|\n\n (let ... ... 
 (let ((value-804 (quote ert-form-evaluation-aborted-805))) (let 
 (form-description-806) (if (unwind-protect ... ... ...) nil (ert-fail 
 form-description-806))) value-804))) nil :passed nil] 
 [cl-struct-ert-test-failed nil nil (wrong-type-argument consp nil) ((t setcar 
 nil ((:comments . ) (:shebang . ) (:cache . ) (:padline . ) (:noweb . 
 ) (:tangle . ) (:exports . ) (:results . ))) (nil let* ((c (nthcdr 2 
 i))) (setcar c merged-params)) (nil let ((i info)) (let* ((c (nthcdr 2 i))) 
 (setcar c merged-params)) i) (nil org-babel-check-evaluate (let ((i info)) 
 (let* ((c ...)) (setcar c merged-params)) i)) (nil if 
 (org-babel-check-evaluate (let ((i info)) (let* (...) (setcar c 
 merged-params)) i)) (progn (let* ((params ...) (cachep ...) (new-hash ...) 
 (old-hash ...) (cache-current-p ...)) (cond (cache-current-p ...) (... 
 ...) (nil let* ((info (if info (copy-tree info) 
 (org-babel-get-src-block-info))) (merged-params (org-babel-merge-params (nth 
 2 info) params))) (if (org-babel-check-evaluate (let (...) (let* ... ...) i)) 
 (progn (let* (... ... ... ... ...) (cond ... ...) (t 
 org-babel-execute-src-block) (nil progn (org-mode) (progn (insert #+name: 
 input-table\n| id | var1 |\n|+--|\n|  1 | bar  |\n|  2 | baz  
 |\n\n#+begin_src sh :var data=input-table :exports results :colnames '(Rev 
 Author)\necho \$data\\n#+end_src\n) (goto-char (point-min))) 
 (org-babel-execute-src-block) (buffer-string)) (nil unwind-protect (progn 
 (org-mode) (progn (insert #+name: input-table\n| id | var1 
 |\n|+--|\n|  1 | bar  |\n|  2 | baz  |\n\n#+begin_src sh :var 
 data=input-table :exports results :colnames '(Rev Author)\necho 
 \$data\\n#+end_src\n) (goto-char (point-min))) 
 (org-babel-execute-src-block) (buffer-string)) (and (buffer-name temp-buffer) 
 (kill-buffer temp-buffer))) (nil save-current-buffer (set-buffer temp-buffer) 
 (unwind-protect (progn (org-mode) (progn (insert #+name: input-table\n| id | 
 var1 |\n|+--|\n|  1 | bar  |\n|  2 | baz  |\n\n#+begin_src sh :var 
 data=input-table :exports results :colnames '(Rev Author)\necho 
 \$data\\n#+end_src\n) (goto-char ...)) (org-babel-execute-src-block) 
 (buffer-string)) (and (buffer-name temp-buffer) (kill-buffer temp-buffer 
 (nil let ((temp-buffer (generate-new-buffer  *temp*))) (save-current-buffer 
 (set-buffer temp-buffer) (unwind-protect (progn (org-mode) (progn ... ...) 
 (org-babel-execute-src-block) 

Re: [O] [PATCH 03/10] Clean up various org-babel-*-maybe commands

2013-04-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Aaron Ecay aarone...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi Bastien,

 Thanks for your comments.

 2013ko apirilak 3an, Bastien-ek idatzi zuen:

 [...]

 org-babel-get-src-block-info is a potentially expensive operation, which
 is why its ‘light’ argument exists.  But in any case, it is overkill to
 query the whole info, if all that is needed is whether point is in a
 block or not.  Factor the simplified common code out into a macro.
 
 The let-bound info variable is not only used to check if we are within
 a src block, it is also passed as an argument to functions, see the ^^
 marks below.

 All of these functions will re-calculate the info if it is not
 passed, using org-babel-get-src-block-info.  So not passing it does no
 harm.


Could re-calculating the info cause referenced blocks to be executed
more than once?

If so then we should continue passing the info and *not* simply
re-calculate it later on.

Cheers,


 
 ---
 lisp/ob-core.el | 31 +--
 1 file changed, 17 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
 
 diff --git a/lisp/ob-core.el b/lisp/ob-core.el
 index 723aa9d..283628e 100644
 --- a/lisp/ob-core.el
 +++ b/lisp/ob-core.el
 @@ -365,15 +365,22 @@ of potentially harmful code.
 (or (org-babel-execute-src-block-maybe)
 (org-babel-lob-execute-maybe)))
 
 +(defmacro org-babel-when-in-src-block (rest body)
 +  `(if (or (org-babel-where-is-src-block-head)
 +   (org-babel-get-inline-src-block-matches))
 +   (progn
 +,@body
 +t)
 + nil))
 
 (Please always add a docstring of defuns and defmacros)

 I’ll resend the patch with a docstring and fixing the commit message
 problems you and Achim pointed out.


 [...]


 @@ -433,8 +436,8 @@ then run `org-babel-load-in-session'.
 Detect if this is context for a org-babel src-block and if so
 then run `org-babel-pop-to-session'.
 (interactive)
 -  (let ((info (org-babel-get-src-block-info)))
 -(if info (progn (org-babel-pop-to-session current-prefix-arg info) t) 
 nil)))
 
 +  (org-babel-when-in-src-block
 +   (org-babel-pop-to-session current-prefix-arg)))
 
 (Let's use the current name `org-babel-switch-to-session' instead of
 the obsolete alias.)

 OK.

 
 Maybe we don't always need to pass the info as an argument, but at
 least for this last example it is needed.

 o-b-switch-to-session does nothing with the info argument but pass it
 along to o-b-initiate-session, which will recalculate it if it is
 missing.  So it takes 2 hops in contrast to the 1 in the other cases,
 but it still gets recalculated.

-- 
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte



[O] [solution] Chinese characters in Beamer export

2013-04-20 Thread James Harkins
FWIW, this is what it took for me to get Chinese characters to export
in beamer. (Adding a TODO to write this up for worg.)

1. Use texlive 2012. (The Ubuntu packages for 12.04 date back to 2009.
I couldn't get them to work for this.)

2. In the preamble of your org document:

#+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{CJKutf8}

#+BEGIN_LaTeX
\AtBeginDocument{%
\begin{CJK}{UTF8}{gbsn}}
\AtEndDocument{%
\end{CJK}}
#+END_LaTeX

These LaTeX snippets come from the documentation of the CJK package.
gbsn is for simplified Chinese characters (used on the mainland).
Other options for Chinese may be found at:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Internationalization#Chinese

That pretty much did it (although it took quite a bit of sleuthing to
find this, thanks to a fair amount of out of date information that
will never, ever die in the big search engines).

Except for one problem. LaTeX inputenc will complain about the Chinese
characters being not set up for use with LaTeX, but the document
does render. I'll have to leave that question aside for the moment,
but this isn't the last time I'll need Chinese characters in a
presentation so I'll come back to that before posting anything on
worg. (Or, maybe a sophisticated LaTeX user knows what is wrong?)

hjh



Re: [O] [solution] Chinese characters in Beamer export

2013-04-20 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com writes:

 FWIW, this is what it took for me to get Chinese characters to export
 in beamer. (Adding a TODO to write this up for worg.)

 1. Use texlive 2012. (The Ubuntu packages for 12.04 date back to 2009.
 I couldn't get them to work for this.)

 2. In the preamble of your org document:

 #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{CJKutf8}

 #+BEGIN_LaTeX
 \AtBeginDocument{%
 \begin{CJK}{UTF8}{gbsn}}
 \AtEndDocument{%
 \end{CJK}}
 #+END_LaTeX

 These LaTeX snippets come from the documentation of the CJK package.
 gbsn is for simplified Chinese characters (used on the mainland).
 Other options for Chinese may be found at:

 http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Internationalization#Chinese

 That pretty much did it (although it took quite a bit of sleuthing to
 find this, thanks to a fair amount of out of date information that
 will never, ever die in the big search engines).

 Except for one problem. LaTeX inputenc will complain about the Chinese
 characters being not set up for use with LaTeX, but the document
 does render. I'll have to leave that question aside for the moment,
 but this isn't the last time I'll need Chinese characters in a
 presentation so I'll come back to that before posting anything on
 worg. (Or, maybe a sophisticated LaTeX user knows what is wrong?)

I suppose you've already considered using XeTeX? I've got this in my
style files, and it Just Works. I suppose there's more tweaking that
could be done, but I haven't had to bother so far:

\usepackage{fontspec}
\usepackage[indentfirst=false]{xeCJK}
\setCJKmainfont{AR PL New Kai}

Of course, using XeTeX isn't always an option...

Eric




Re: [O] [babel] Purpose of :results raw

2013-04-20 Thread John Hendy


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello,

 Sebastien Vauban
 wxhgmqzgwmuf-genee64ty+gs+fvcfc7...@public.gmane.org writes:

 Now that :results drawer has been introduced, I wonder why we still have
 :results raw.

 As once stated in this ML:

  The sole purpose of raw results is to allow inserting an headline (I 
 mean
  a real headline, not comma protected) in the buffer, because headlines
  cannot be contained in anything else than headlines.

 But drawer does the same.

 What makes you think drawers do the same? Drawers cannot contain
 headlines.


But back to the original question, what does =:results raw=
accomplish? From my view, even if they *can* contain headlines, they
get exported twice, and re-running the code block just adds duplicate
output to whatever was already there. Consider this test file:

#+begin_src orgmode

* Heading

#+begin_src R :session r :results output raw :exports results

cat(* Heading2\n)
cat(This is some test text\n)

#+end_src

#+RESULTS:
* Heading2
This is some test text

#+begin_src R :session r :results output drawer :exports results

cat(* Heading3\n)
cat(This is some test text\n)

#+end_src

#+RESULTS:
:RESULTS:
* Heading3
This is some test text
:END:


* Heading 4

#+begin_src R :session r :results output drawer :exports results

cat(This is some test text\n)

#+end_src

#+RESULTS:
:RESULTS:
This is some test text
:END:

#+end_src

** Heading2 gets exported twice, and the :RESULTS: and :END: drawer
property indicators are also being exported. Yes, I can delete the
=:results raw= output, but that's time consuming, especially as one
tweaks code and re-evaluates to check the results. One has to do this
every time not to flood the document with duplicate results.

See Eric Schulte's response here:
- http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2012-08/msg01224.html

I was getting multiple instance with =:results output raw= and was
instructed to use =:results output org= for the very reason that it
would be able to discern the output and replace it upon subsequent
block evaluations.

Now consider this recent thread:
- http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgmode@gnu.org/msg70016.html

The gist of that long discussion is that =:results output org= was
replaced by =:results output drawer=, but it seems we haven't
recreated all of the existing functionality. There's another thread
out there in which for a while it was to be =:results output wrap=
and/or =:wrap org= in order to do something like this (output actual
Org-mode syntax from a code block and have it exported as if it was
actually written in the document).

There are instances where I'd like to generate numerous plots and then
create subheadings for the various iterations of my loops, so having
the ability to actual print ** Subheading to a results block and
have it exported would be useful. Seems that =:results raw= is now the
only way to do that, and export only works if you delete whatever
results are down there already prior to doing so.

Let me know if there's another/better way.


Thanks,
John


 Regards,

 --
 Nicolas Goaziou