Re: [O] Bug: Secondary smart quotes are exported as apostrophes. [9.1.14 (9.1.14-1-g4931fc-elpa @ /home/coleman/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.1.14/)]
Nicolas,
Thank you for your response.
> When you need that level of precision, smart quotes are not for you.
I agree. However, in specialized fields (linguistics and philosophy, for
example), single quotation marks are commonly used to refer to technical
terms or specialized uses of words
<https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/31420/when-should-single-quotes-be-used#answer-31444>:
"Single
quotes are easier on the eyes when reading material that uses quotes
frequently, which is why academic publishers adopted this format for works
in these areas."
> You can use entities directly to obtain the desired result, e.g. \rsquo,
\lsquo...
I think that this is rather tedious. Do you agree? If so, it seems
reasonable to me that there should be some option to export text such as...
'foo'
...in the form of...
foo
It occurs to me that an academic who works in the field of linguistics or
philosophy should be able to properly export his or her writing without
using cryptic glyphs ("...") or commenting out line `5545` of `ox.el`. Do
you agree?
Thank you for your time and your consideration.
Coleman
On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:21 AM Nicolas Goaziou
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Coleman Gariety writes:
>
> > Also, it occurs to me that one can make use of single quotation marks as
> > primary quotes when mentioning a word without using it. Moreover, when
> > italics and double quotation marks are also present, the use of single
> > quotations as primary is necessary.
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > 'GNU' is an acronym for the phrase "GNU's Not Unix!" but GNU is an
> > operating system and *not* an acronym.
>
> When you need that level of precision, smart quotes are not for you.
> "Smart" quotes are a dumb way to automate some basic typographic rules.
> Clearly, this is not what you are after.
>
> You can use entities directly to obtain the desired result, e.g. \rsquo,
> \lsquo...
>
> > Is it feasible to add an option to treat single quotation marks as
> primary
> > pairs on export?
>
> I think you are mixing up the level of quotation and the glyph used. You
> can export "..." as single quotes by setting
> `org-export-smart-quotes-alist' accordingly.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
>
Re: [O] Bug: Secondary smart quotes are exported as apostrophes. [9.1.14 (9.1.14-1-g4931fc-elpa @ /home/coleman/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.1.14/)]
Nicolas, Thank you for your response. I now see that I had misunderstood the documentation. Also, it occurs to me that one can make use of single quotation marks as primary quotes when mentioning a word without using it. Moreover, when italics and double quotation marks are also present, the use of single quotations as primary is necessary. For example: 'GNU' is an acronym for the phrase "GNU's Not Unix!" but GNU is an > operating system and *not *an acronym. Is it feasible to add an option to treat single quotation marks as primary pairs on export? Thanks, Coleman Gariety On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 7:46 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Hello, > > Coleman Gariety writes: > > > According to documentation (org-export-with-smart-quotes) should treat > > "pairs of single quotes as secondary quotes." This text: > > Only within primary quotes! If there are no primary quotes around, you > don't need a second level of quotation, and single quotes are not > special. > > Regards, > > -- > Nicolas Goaziou >
[O] Bug: Secondary smart quotes are exported as apostrophes. [9.1.14 (9.1.14-1-g4931fc-elpa @ /home/coleman/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.1.14/)]
According to documentation (org-export-with-smart-quotes) should treat "pairs of single quotes as secondary quotes." This text: 'foo' Should be exported to HTML as: foo However, org-mode 9.1.14 exports this text as: foo This does not occur when a secondary pair of quotations occurs within a pair of primary quotations. This text: "'foo'" Gets exported (properly) as: foo This also occurs when exporting to pdf, latex and odt. I was able to get org to export smart quotes as expected by commenting out line `5505` of `ox.el`: 5503 ;; Not already in a level 1 quote: this is an 5504 ;; apostrophe. 5505 ;; ((not level1-open) 'apostrophe) Even with this line commented out, apostrophes are properly exported. (Even within pairs of primary and secondary quotations.) Is something wrong with my configuration? Or is there a problem with the org-export--smart-quote-status function? Thank you. Coleman Emacs : GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.30) of 2018-07-05 Package: Org mode version 9.1.14 (9.1.14-1-g4931fc-elpa @ /home/coleman/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.1.14/)
