Re: [Orgmode] Showing scheduled blocked tasks [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-03-21 Thread Matthew Phillips
On 18/03/2010, at 4:29 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Mar 17, 2010, at 1:53 AM, Matthew Phillips wrote:
 
 On 16/03/2010, at 6:21 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
 
 On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:36 AM, Matthew Phillips wrote:
 
 On 16/03/2010, at 12:24 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
 
 On Mar 15, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Matthew Phillips wrote:
 
 snip
 
 So, is there any way I can use a custom skip function in the TODO block 
 to remove blocked tasks? Is there a way of getting the blocked status of 
 a task from such a function?
 
 Yes, BLOCKED is a virtual property which does this.  I think you can just 
 do a tags/property/todo search like this
 
 -BLOCKED/+TODO”
 
 That query still shows the blocked tasks, unfortunately.
 
 My mistake:
 
 +BLOCKEDt/+TODO
 
 This means that the BLOCKED property should not be equal to “t”.
 
 Hmm, the following query still does not work (still shows greyed blocked 
 tasks)
 
 (tags +BLOCKED\t\/+TODO)
 
 And using +BLOCKED=\t\/TODO selects nothing.
 
 I just tested it, and this is working properly for me.  Are you
 running a recent version of Org-mode?  The BLOCKED property was
 only added in 6.34.

Ah, I was running “6.33x” that came bundled with Emacs 23.1.94.1. Upgrading to 
a local install of 6.34c fixed it — sorry not to have tried that earlier.

Thanks again for your assistance, much appreciated.

Matthew.


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Re: [Orgmode] Showing scheduled blocked tasks [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-03-16 Thread Matthew Phillips
On 16/03/2010, at 2:56 AM, Manish wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Matthew Phillips wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I am trying to get a TODO tags view in my daily agenda just shows
 the first TODO of a “Project” (a la the “next action” in GTD).
 This allows me to have a TODO “tags” block in my custom agenda
 that doesn’t run to several pages: I just see the next action for
 each project, and, as each action is marked DONE, the next one
 pops up.
 
 have you considered using org-depend? this is what i use for almost
 exactly what you described:
 
 1. a project has several TODOs
 2. the first TODO (manually) is assigned a TRIGGER property with
   chain-siblings(NEXT) as value
 3. as this task is marked DONE, the one below is switched to NEXT
   state and also gets the property
 4. switching to NEXT causes org-todo-state-tags-triggers to tag the
   task with NEXT tag
 5. a custom agenda view adds a block of these NEXT tasks

Thanks for the suggestion Manish. I did look at org-depend, but it requires a 
little too much manual intervention for what I'm trying to do: i.e. reduce what 
I need to to do to have next tasks appear on my radar.

Cheers,

Matthew.

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Re: [Orgmode] Showing scheduled blocked tasks [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-03-16 Thread Matthew Phillips
On 16/03/2010, at 6:21 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:36 AM, Matthew Phillips wrote:
 
 On 16/03/2010, at 12:24 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
 
 On Mar 15, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Matthew Phillips wrote:
 
 snip
 
 So, is there any way I can use a custom skip function in the TODO block to 
 remove blocked tasks? Is there a way of getting the blocked status of a 
 task from such a function?
 
 Yes, BLOCKED is a virtual property which does this.  I think you can just 
 do a tags/property/todo search like this
 
 -BLOCKED/+TODO”
 
 That query still shows the blocked tasks, unfortunately.
 
 My mistake:
 
 +BLOCKEDt/+TODO
 
 This means that the BLOCKED property should not be equal to “t”.

Hmm, the following query still does not work (still shows greyed blocked tasks)

  (tags +BLOCKED\t\/+TODO)

And using +BLOCKED=\t\/TODO selects nothing.

Matthew.


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Re: [Orgmode] Showing scheduled blocked tasks [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-03-15 Thread Matthew Phillips
On 16/03/2010, at 12:24 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Mar 15, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Matthew Phillips wrote:

snip

 So, is there any way I can use a custom skip function in the TODO block to 
 remove blocked tasks? Is there a way of getting the blocked status of a task 
 from such a function?
 
 Yes, BLOCKED is a virtual property which does this.  I think you can just do 
 a tags/property/todo search like this
 
 -BLOCKED/+TODO”

That query still shows the blocked tasks, unfortunately.

 Or you can test for the BLOCKED property in a user-written skip function.

I’ll follow this route next...

Thanks very much for your help, Carsten.

Cheers,

Matthew.
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Re: [Orgmode] Showing scheduled blocked tasks [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-03-14 Thread Matthew Phillips
On 12/03/2010, at 3:29 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

snip

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Matthew Phillips wrote:
 
 What I mean is setting it as an option in the custom commands does not seem 
 to work, e.g. see list line in:
 
 (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
 ...
   (d Daily Action List
((agenda  ((org-agenda-ndays 1)
 (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
  (quote ((agenda time-up priority-down tag-up) )))
 (org-deadline-warning-days 7)))
(tags TODO=\STARTED\+SCHEDULED=\\+DEADLINE=\\
  ((org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks 'invisible)))
 ...
 
 The org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks on the generated tags view does not get 
 honoured. It *does* get honoured as a setting one level higher, i.e. as a 
 local setting to the whole org-agenda-custom-commands block, but that's not 
 very useful here.
 
 OK, I see now what is happening here.  The dimming of blocked tasks is
 done only once, at the very end, when the agenda has been made.  And that is 
 outside the scope of the local options.
 
 You can use a normal (custom) agenda command and do the setting there. Or you 
 can use the global options for the block agenda to set this for the entire 
 block agenda.  But not for a single segment in a bloc agenda, I am afraid.
 
 Changing this would be significant work, and I don't want to do this based on 
 a single use case.

OK, I can understand that.

So, is there any way I can use a custom skip function in the TODO block to 
remove blocked tasks? Is there a way of getting the blocked status of a task 
from such a function?

Cheers,

Matthew.
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Re: [Orgmode] Showing scheduled blocked tasks

2010-03-11 Thread Matthew Phillips
Hi Carsten,

reply inline below.

On 11/03/2010, at 4:40 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 2:34 AM, Matthew Phillips wrote:
 
 I am trying to get a TODO tags view in my daily agenda just shows the first 
 TODO of a “Project” (a la the “next action” in GTD). This allows me to have 
 a TODO “tags” block in my custom agenda that doesn’t run to several pages: I 
 just see the next action for each project, and, as each action is marked 
 DONE, the next one pops up.
 
 I have *almost* managed to get this working by turning on 
 org-enforce-todo-dependencies, setting “ORDERED: t” as a property on 
 projects, and then using (setq org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks 'invisible).
 
 However, this hides scheduled tasks from the agenda view if they are also 
 blocked (I want them to show up if they are scheduled regardless). It seems 
 that org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks is not supported as a local setting on 
 custom commands, so I can’t just make blocked tasks visible in the agenda 
 view and invisible in the TODO tags query.
 
 what do you mean by is not supported as a local option?  Does that mean you 
 miss it in the customize menu for local option, or does that mean you have 
 added it using the any variable entry and then it does not have the desired 
 effect?

What I mean is setting it as an option in the custom commands does not seem to 
work, e.g. see list line in:

(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
...
(d Daily Action List
 ((agenda  ((org-agenda-ndays 1)
  (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
   (quote ((agenda time-up priority-down tag-up) )))
  (org-deadline-warning-days 7)))
 (tags TODO=\STARTED\+SCHEDULED=\\+DEADLINE=\\
   ((org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks 'invisible)))
...

The org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks on the generated tags view does not get 
honoured. It *does* get honoured as a setting one level higher, i.e. as a 
local setting to the whole org-agenda-custom-commands block, but that's not 
very useful here.

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Cheers,

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[Orgmode] Showing scheduled blocked tasks [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-03-10 Thread Matthew Phillips
Hello all,

I am trying to get a TODO tags view in my daily agenda just shows the first 
TODO of a “Project” (a la the “next action” in GTD). This allows me to have a 
TODO “tags” block in my custom agenda that doesn’t run to several pages: I just 
see the next action for each project, and, as each action is marked DONE, the 
next one pops up.

I have *almost* managed to get this working by turning on 
org-enforce-todo-dependencies, setting “ORDERED: t” as a property on projects, 
and then using (setq org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks 'invisible).

However, this hides scheduled tasks from the agenda view if they are also 
blocked (I want them to show up if they are scheduled regardless). It seems 
that org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks is not supported as a local setting on custom 
commands, so I can’t just make blocked tasks visible in the agenda view and 
invisible in the TODO tags query.

Can anyone help? I’d be happy just to write my own skip function, but can’t 
actually find the API to check for blocked task status.

Cheers,

Matthew.
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