Re: [O] Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty viewpoint)? Tips or a good guides sought after :)
Thanks for your advices. I will try to export as DOCX instead of DOC. The org-ref is a very convenient way to control the bibtex after I watch the video, through it doesn't resovle the bibtex expoort in ODT. I think in a long time, the DOC format stil a dominate format that communicate with teachers...(Sad news...) Very glad to hear the news that citation will supported by org-mode and Thanks for you and your partners' hard work! Many Thanks. 在2015年06月11 13时38分, Rasmusras...@gmx.us写道: windy chxp_m...@163.com writes: My teacher let me give a DOC version for that only me use the emacs in our lab (So lonely, DOC dominate the most people). You should see if you can at least upgrade to docx. In my experience, LO writes much better docx than doc (e.g. when using doc math is downsampled to images losing a lot of quality). I finnally export as ODT and change into DOC version, it seems works well for that only no reference generate. Wish a more wisdom ODT exporter in org-mode. Bibtex is a big problem when export into different format files. ATM I think the a lot of people use John's org-ref. For this problem I've used a home-grown org-cite.el that uses reftex.el to format citations in author-year style. I generate the final bibliography via tex4ht and mlentic erge the two documents in an odm. This is easy with a Makefile. Later, probably after 8.3, we'll try to include citation support in Org. Rasmus -- The second rule of Fight Club is: You do not talk about Fight Club
Re: [O] Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty viewpoint)? Tips or a good guides sought after :)
Thanks. However, pandoc hardly to deal right about the figure caption number, the table (table caption) and the superscript. The export in org-mode perform well in everything except for the bibtex. I prefer the inherent method in org-mode. The command I use: pandoc --bibliography=zotero.bib --filter pandoc-citeproc 12.tex -o 12.docx By the way, I like the output style in ODT of org-exporter and I am lazy to adjust the pandoc export style... 在2015年06月11 20时18分, Ken Mankoffmank...@gmail.com写道: On 2015-06-10 at 22:07, windy chxp_m...@163.com wrote: I finnally export as ODT and change into DOC version, it seems works well for that only no reference generate. Wish a more wisdom ODT exporter in org-mode. Bibtex is a big problem when export into different format files. Org - LaTeX --Pandoc-- DOCX supports references. -k.
Re: [O] Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty viewpoint)? Tips or a good guides sought after :)
Thanks for all you reply, My teacher let me give a DOC version for that only me use the emacs in our lab (So lonely, DOC dominate the most people). I finnally export as ODT and change into DOC version, it seems works well for that only no reference generate. Wish a more wisdom ODT exporter in org-mode. Bibtex is a big problem when export into different format files. 在2015年06月10 22时16分, Julian Burgosjul...@hafro.is写道: Windy, I am a researcher (not in academia, but in a government lab). I use emacs and org-mode a lot, for project management, programming (using R and GRASS), writing papers, keeping notes, etc.etc. I find that collaborative writing is problematic because most people use Word, and in most cases will not become enlightened and use emacs. I have used two strategies. a) I first write in org-mode. Export to Word, either exporting first to ODT and then to Word, or to LaTex and then use pandoc to convert LaTex to Word. My coauthor can edit the document as he wishes, using the Track changes option. Then, I transcribe their edits back into the org-mode document. Advantage of this approach: your coauthor receives a clean word file, that could include figures, references, etc., and he/she uses the tools she likes to edit the file. Disadvantage: you have to manually incorporate the changes to the org-mode file each time there are edits. b) I write the manuscript in org-mode. Then I send the org-mode file to my coauthor. Because the org-mode file is just a text file, my coauthor can use Word to edit it. I ask him/her *not* to use track changes and to save the edited version also as a text file. Then, when I receive it I use ediff in emacs to compare both documents and incorporate the edits I want. Advantage of this approach: the merging of the documents is easy using ediff. Disadvantage: your coauthor has to edit a weird-looking document, with markup, code blocks, etc. All the best, Julian Speaking as an advisor/teacher, you should do what they want if you want them to help you. You could ask if they are willing to comment on the pdf, either by hand writing on a printed version, or by pdf commenting, or maybe in the LaTeX source. But, if that is not what they want, and they cannot work with what you give them, you will not get as much feedback as you want, and you will end up creating frustration on your end and theirs. windy writes: Another question, I am a student , I think it is a big problem that how to exchange you article with your teacher, because the teacher will comment or revise your article once again and again. However, Many teachers will not use emacs to write articles and also the pdf file is not so convenient to do some modification, how will you deal with the problem ? 在2015年06月09 21时21分, John Kitchinjkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu写道: you might also enjoy our youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgizHHd7nOo And this one on using org-mode in teaching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsSMs-4GlT8list=FLQp2VLAOlvq142YN3JO3y8w and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRUCiF2MwP4 See http://github.com/jkitchin/jmax for my Emacs setup for org-mode. My only other advice is start learning to program in emacs-lisp. It took me about four years to get proficient enough to write org-ref. I learned by solving lots of little problems, and building up to bigger problems. A lot of those are documented in my blog. Read the emacs and emacs-lisp manuals (read them in Emacs or in a browser). They take some time, so skip the stuff that doesn't make sense and come back to it later if you need to. Consider getting the book at https://www.masteringemacs.org. It isn't about org-mode, but it will make you better at using Emacs. Consider reading Land of Lisp. It isn't about Emacs or Emacs-lisp, but it might interest you in programming in a lispy language, and it is a fun read. Buy the org-mode book: http://www.amazon.com/Org-Mode-Reference-Manual-Organize/dp/9881327709/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1433855847sr=8-1keywords=org-mode. yes, it is the same stuff as in the manual, but it is a book you can read anywhere anytime. Start by learning how to get org-mode to do some things you want. Just do one thing a day. Every day. You hopefully have 30+ years of career ahead of you, so even if it takes a few years or more to learn how to program in emacs-lisp to customize your workflows, you still have plenty of time to benefit from it! Best wishes, Holger Wenzel writes: Hi Xebar, Xebar Saram zeltakc at gmail.com writes: Dear Martin Thanks so much for your prompt response. I did ofc do an extensive google research yet found that as can be seen in your link most entries focus on either writing papers or general bits an pieces .What i am looking for is a holistic approach regarding organizing all aspects of academic life and to hear workflows of other colleagues using org for that I'd start with: http
Re: [O] Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty viewpoint)? Tips or a good guides sought after :)
Another question, I am a student , I think it is a big problem that how to exchange you article with your teacher, because the teacher will comment or revise your article once again and again. However, Many teachers will not use emacs to write articles and also the pdf file is not so convenient to do some modification, how will you deal with the problem ? 在2015年06月09 21时21分, John Kitchinjkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu写道: you might also enjoy our youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgizHHd7nOo And this one on using org-mode in teaching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsSMs-4GlT8list=FLQp2VLAOlvq142YN3JO3y8w and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRUCiF2MwP4 See http://github.com/jkitchin/jmax for my Emacs setup for org-mode. My only other advice is start learning to program in emacs-lisp. It took me about four years to get proficient enough to write org-ref. I learned by solving lots of little problems, and building up to bigger problems. A lot of those are documented in my blog. Read the emacs and emacs-lisp manuals (read them in Emacs or in a browser). They take some time, so skip the stuff that doesn't make sense and come back to it later if you need to. Consider getting the book at https://www.masteringemacs.org. It isn't about org-mode, but it will make you better at using Emacs. Consider reading Land of Lisp. It isn't about Emacs or Emacs-lisp, but it might interest you in programming in a lispy language, and it is a fun read. Buy the org-mode book: http://www.amazon.com/Org-Mode-Reference-Manual-Organize/dp/9881327709/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1433855847sr=8-1keywords=org-mode. yes, it is the same stuff as in the manual, but it is a book you can read anywhere anytime. Start by learning how to get org-mode to do some things you want. Just do one thing a day. Every day. You hopefully have 30+ years of career ahead of you, so even if it takes a few years or more to learn how to program in emacs-lisp to customize your workflows, you still have plenty of time to benefit from it! Best wishes, Holger Wenzel writes: Hi Xebar, Xebar Saram zeltakc at gmail.com writes: Dear Martin Thanks so much for your prompt response. I did ofc do an extensive google research yet found that as can be seen in your link most entries focus on either writing papers or general bits an pieces .What i am looking for is a holistic approach regarding organizing all aspects of academic life and to hear workflows of other colleagues using org for that I'd start with: http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2014/08/08/What-we-are-using-org- mode-for/ follow John Kitchin's blog there closely and read everything he posts in this list. Cheers, Holger z On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:16 AM, M Elwood151 at web.de wrote: Von: Xebar Saram zeltakc at gmail.com Datum: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 19:39:14 +0300 An: org mode emacs-orgmode at gnu.org Betreff: [O] Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty viewpoint)? Tips or a good guides sought after :) Hi all Im a young assistant professor (in humanities and thus my horrific coding skills..basically non ) and having been using orgmode for a year or two now. I love orgmode dearly and use it mainly for note taking, lists etc I am aware of the fantastic orgmode capabilities that could benefit me greatly such as exporting, email tie-ins, beamer support, organizing my bibliography (i have switched to a .bib file recently for my references), agenda capabilities and so much moreand have tried several of these with mild success. unfortunately (and this maybe due to me not being very technical and lack of coding skills) i still feel like im really not using orgmode to its potential and still feel miserably lost in terms of organizing my work in academia from all aspects. i am looking for 2 things really: 1. as i said in the post topic a good guide if anyone is aware of or detailed examples of using org in Academia (mainly aimed at faculty :)) 2. related to that as a young researcher with multiple students, paper writing, grant applications, department duties, endless TODOS, endless email i would really be grateful for even non org specific tips on how other people organize all this to make life more..well..organized :) thanks alot in advance and sorry for the long mail best Z Dear Xebar, I think the first 10 results of the correspondindg google search already show some very interesting examples:http://www.google.com/search? client=safarirls=enq=emacs+org-mode+in+resear chie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8 Did you have a look at those? Kind regards Martin -- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
[O] How to deal with the caption (\ref{} and number) in ODT export?
Hi, I want to use the org-mode to write my science article. In order to be revised by teacher, I prefer to export as ODT format file for teacher and pdf file for my personal too (What's your choice?). A problem is that the ODT file cannot recongnize the latex ref tag like \ref{fig:main}. Another problem is that the figuer caption is Figure 1.1 rather than Figure 1.. I donnot like the number using chapter number. How to deal with the problems? A file similar to org-mode manual does not achieve the right result. I use Emacs 24.4.1 (Org mode 8.2.10) in Ubuntu 14.04. Here is the example file: #+TITLE: The test of caption * Introduction See Figure \ref{fig:main}, we will see the result #+CAPTION: emacs is pretty #+LABEL: fig:main [[file:main.jpg]] Thanks for you help.
Re: [O] How to deal with the caption (\ref{} and number) in ODT export?
I catch the problem 1 Just using the [[fig:main]] in article , the format can be accepted by ODT and Latex too. But the problem 2 is stll a puzzle, also I can open the ODT file and change the cite format but the method is something stupid. 在2015年06月09 12时18分, windychxp_m...@163.com写道: Hi, I want to use the org-mode to write my science article. In order to be revised by teacher, I prefer to export as ODT format file for teacher and pdf file for my personal too (What's your choice?). A problem is that the ODT file cannot recongnize the latex ref tag like \ref{fig:main}. Another problem is that the figuer caption is Figure 1.1 rather than Figure 1.. I donnot like the number using chapter number. How to deal with the problems? A file similar to org-mode manual does not achieve the right result. I use Emacs 24.4.1 (Org mode 8.2.10) in Ubuntu 14.04. Here is the example file: #+TITLE: The test of caption * Introduction See Figure \ref{fig:main}, we will see the result #+CAPTION: emacs is pretty #+LABEL: fig:main [[file:main.jpg]] Thanks for you help.
[O] ox-bibtex using the x.bib in different path
Hi, everyone, I am using org-plus-contrib/ox-bibtex.el to combine bibtex output in html and latex. When I use a same x.bib like: #+BIBLIOGRAPHY: x unsrturl it works well But if I use a x.bib at different path and the src like: #+BIBLIOGRAPHY: /home/name/dropbox/x unsrturl or #+BIBLIOGRAPHY: $HOME/dropbox/x unsrturl it shows Executing bibtex2html failed As the link show: http://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/3375/loading-bibtex-file-in-org-mode-file , we shoud hack the ox-bibtex.el and change the TMPDIR. Is anyone have a hacked ox-bibtex.el or any idea to the problem? I am using the emacs24.4.1 under ubuntu 14.04, the org-mode version is 8.2.10
Re: [O] javascript:; Re: Is there a new method to set no line break when export to plain text
Thanks for you reply I am sorry for that but how to set the variable ? I totally know nothing about emacs elisp. maybe I must to learn it in some day. I try (setq org-export-filter-paragraph-functions nil) seems no working 在2015年05月18 15时18分, Nicolas Goazioum...@nicolasgoaziou.fr写道: Hello, windy chxp_m...@163.com writes: Start from Org-mode 8, the plain text export is fixed width with line break and it is very unconvenient to show in the text edit like libreoffice and so on. I also try (setq org-ascii-text-width 10) in my .emacs but the title and the author align to the middle in 10, it is very ugly and . I don't know why org-mode 8 start to fix width of plain text with line break, How I conquer it ? Is there anyone have good idea? You can add a paragraph filter (see `org-export-filter-paragraph-functions') that removes newline characters from the output. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
[O] Is there a new method to set no line break when export to plain text
Hi, everyone, Start from Org-mode 8, the plain text export is fixed width with line break and it is very unconvenient to show in the text edit like libreoffice and so on. I also try (setq org-ascii-text-width 10) in my .emacs but the title and the author align to the middle in 10, it is very ugly and . I don't know why org-mode 8 start to fix width of plain text with line break, How I conquer it ? Is there anyone have good idea?