Re: [O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
James Harkins writes: > Upon further reflection, I think the best would be to bind > org-metaup/down to the "move subtree" menu items, rather than > org-shiftmetaup. I'm guessing that this is the more common use case > (because moving a whole subtree doesn't destroy the structure of that > subtree, while moving a line does), so I think it would make more > sense to put the more common case in the menu. Indeed, that's a bug in the menu. Thank you for reporting it. Regards,
Re: [O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
At Mon, 03 Nov 2014 13:48:56 +0100, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > James Harkins writes: > > BTW the name of the menu item is misleading. C-h C-k M-S-up: > > > > ~~ > > It is bound to , > Subtree Up>,. > > What improvement are you suggesting then? Upon further reflection, I think the best would be to bind org-metaup/down to the "move subtree" menu items, rather than org-shiftmetaup. I'm guessing that this is the more common use case (because moving a whole subtree doesn't destroy the structure of that subtree, while moving a line does), so I think it would make more sense to put the more common case in the menu. hjh
Re: [O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
James Harkins writes: > BTW the name of the menu item is misleading. C-h C-k M-S-up: > > ~~ > It is bound to , Subtree Up>,. > ~~ > > This is why I thought that M-S-up/down would work on entry + contents -- I > looked in the Emacs menu and saw "Move Subtree Up," and I didn't think to > check the docstring (which contradicts the name in the menu by saying, > correctly, "Drag the line at point up"). What improvement are you suggesting then? Regards,
Re: [O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
Nicolas Goaziou nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes: > Both `M-S-up' and `M-S-down' work line wise and ignore any structure > around point. OTOH, `M-up' and `M-down' should do what you want. BTW the name of the menu item is misleading. C-h C-k M-S-up: ~~ It is bound to ,,. ~~ This is why I thought that M-S-up/down would work on entry + contents -- I looked in the Emacs menu and saw "Move Subtree Up," and I didn't think to check the docstring (which contradicts the name in the menu by saying, correctly, "Drag the line at point up"). hjh
Re: [O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
On November 2, 2014 4:25:53 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: Actually, it isn't. This is a feature. Both `M-S-up' and `M-S-down' work line wise and ignore any structure around point. OTOH, `M-up' and `M-down' should do what you want. Ah, OK... It would be a bug if there were no function to move a list item with its contents. Since there is such a function, just on a different key binding, no bug. Thanks. hjh Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com
Re: [O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
Hello,
James Harkins writes:
> In plain lists, if there is indented text underneath a list item, is
> it considered to "belong to" the list item, or is it just freestanding
> text?
The former.
> I'm asking because M-S-up/down doesn't take indented text into
> account. These commands only move the line marked with a list-item
> indicator ("-" etc.).
>
> * Heading
> - List item 1
> - List item 2
> Indented text
> - List item 3
>
> Position the point on "List item 2" and hit M-S-down. You'll get this,
> which seems wrong to me:
>
> * Heading
> - List item 1
> Indented text
> - List item 2
> - List item 3
>
> I expected:
>
> * Heading
> - List item 1
> - List item 3
> - List item 2
> Indented text
>
> My opinion is that this is a bug
Actually, it isn't. This is a feature.
Both `M-S-up' and `M-S-down' work line wise and ignore any structure
around point. OTOH, `M-up' and `M-down' should do what you want.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
[O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
In plain lists, if there is indented text underneath a list item, is it
considered to "belong to" the list item, or is it just freestanding text?
I'm asking because M-S-up/down doesn't take indented text into account. These
commands only move the line marked with a list-item indicator ("-" etc.).
* Heading
- List item 1
- List item 2
Indented text
- List item 3
Position the point on "List item 2" and hit M-S-down. You'll get this, which
seems wrong to me:
* Heading
- List item 1
Indented text
- List item 2
- List item 3
I expected:
* Heading
- List item 1
- List item 3
- List item 2
Indented text
My opinion is that this is a bug, but it's also possible that I don't fully
understand how org interprets plain lists. It does seem that org has a concept
of indented text "belonging to" the list item, because you can use TAB to
collapse a list item containing indented text, but you can't use it on a list
item followed by non-indented text.
* Heading
- List item 1: TAB can fold this item
Indented text
- List item 2: TAB displays a message in the minibuffer "EMPTY ENTRY"
Non-indented text
- List item 3
I also see the same bizarre behavior of M-S-up/down if a list item has a
sub-list under it.
My org is up-to-date as of 10/15/2014.
hjh
