Re: [O] LaTeX export: Theorem with an author

2013-02-11 Thread Vincent Beffara 
Hi, 
  #+begin_theorem :options [Him]
  slkdfj
  #+end_theorem
 
 This isn't future-proof. If, for example, we need to add options for the
 HTML back-end, there will be a syntax conflict. The rule is the
 following:
 
 - If the toggle are global, allow them on the block opening string
 (i.e. src-block and code toggles)
 
 - For back-end specific value, use attributes.
Fair enough. Although as Andreas said, something backend-agnostic to specify 
meta-data could still make sense at some point, which each backend could choose 
to implement as reasonable or ignore. You're right that setting LaTeX to add 
[Author] is probably not one of those cases.

Cheers,

/v
 
 
 Regards,
 
 -- 
 Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] LaTeX export: Theorem with an author

2013-02-10 Thread Vincent Beffara 
Hi,
 There's no right way at the moment: I forgot to implement this.
 
 Anyway, since this feature was LaTeX only, what do you think about the
 following syntax (which doesn't work yet):
 
 #+attr_latex: :options [Newton]
 #+begin_theorem
 Blah.
 #+end_theorem
 
 It is heavier but it seems more consistent to me.
It does seem more consistent with things like fig captions and so on - thanks 
for implementing! A little bit more verbose but that's fine ... and I agree 
that the previous #+begin_theorem Somebody felt a bit vague. How about a 
middle ground like this ?

#+begin_theorem :options [Him]
slkdfj
#+end_theorem
 
 
 Regards,
 
 -- 
 Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] LaTeX export: Theorem with an author

2013-02-10 Thread Nicolas Goaziou 
Vincent Beffara vbeffara...@gmail.com writes:

 It does seem more consistent with things like fig captions and so on -
 thanks for implementing! A little bit more verbose but that's fine ...
 and I agree that the previous #+begin_theorem Somebody felt a bit
 vague. How about a middle ground like this ?

 #+begin_theorem :options [Him]
 slkdfj
 #+end_theorem

This isn't future-proof. If, for example, we need to add options for the
HTML back-end, there will be a syntax conflict. The rule is the
following:

- If the toggle are global, allow them on the block opening string
  (i.e. src-block and code toggles)

- For back-end specific value, use attributes.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] LaTeX export: Theorem with an author

2013-02-09 Thread Andreas Leha 
Hi Nicolas,

 How to generate latex code for a theorem with an author, like this:

 \begin{theorem}[Newton]
 Blah.
 \end{theorem}

 With the old exporter, you could do this:


 #+BEGIN_theorem Newton
 Blah.
 #+END_theorem



[...]

I was not aware of that possibility in the old exporter.  Neat!


 There's no right way at the moment: I forgot to implement this.

 Anyway, since this feature was LaTeX only, what do you think about the
 following syntax (which doesn't work yet):

   #+attr_latex: :options [Newton]
   #+begin_theorem
   Blah.
   #+end_theorem

 It is heavier but it seems more consistent to me.

Even if it *was* LaTeX only, shouldn't it be up to the backend to
provide translation of such arguments?  I'd vote for the shorter version
to have a (possibly future) backend-agnostic version.

Just my 2ct.

- Andreas

Re: [O] LaTeX export: Theorem with an author

2013-02-09 Thread Nicolas Goaziou 
Hello,

Andreas Leha andreas.l...@med.uni-goettingen.de writes:

   #+attr_latex: :options [Newton]
   #+begin_theorem
   Blah.
   #+end_theorem

 It is heavier but it seems more consistent to me.

 Even if it *was* LaTeX only, shouldn't it be up to the backend to
 provide translation of such arguments?  I'd vote for the shorter version
 to have a (possibly future) backend-agnostic version.

Well, I already have implemented this syntax. We'll see how it goes.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] LaTeX export: Theorem with an author

2013-02-09 Thread Andreas Leha 
Hi Nicolas,

   #+attr_latex: :options [Newton]
   #+begin_theorem
   Blah.
   #+end_theorem

 It is heavier but it seems more consistent to me.

 Even if it *was* LaTeX only, shouldn't it be up to the backend to
 provide translation of such arguments?  I'd vote for the shorter version
 to have a (possibly future) backend-agnostic version.

 Well, I already have implemented this syntax. We'll see how it goes.


Since I go the LaTeX-route most times, I'll be a most-times-happy user
of this.  Thanks for implementing it!

Exporting to multiple backends takes more efforts than I'd like, anyway.
So I try to avoid that and concentrate on one backend per project.  I'd
just rather like to see the differences decrease -- not increase ;-)

- Andreas

Re: [O] LaTeX export: Theorem with an author

2013-02-08 Thread Nicolas Goaziou 
Hello,

Vincent Beffara vbeffara...@gmail.com writes:

 How to generate latex code for a theorem with an author, like this:

 \begin{theorem}[Newton]
 Blah.
 \end{theorem}

 With the old exporter, you could do this:


 #+BEGIN_theorem Newton
 Blah.
 #+END_theorem


 (possibly with brackets, not sure) but now the rest of the #+BEGIN_ line is 
 ignored ... This works:


 #+BEGIN_theorem
 [Newton]
 Blah.
 #+END_theorem


 but it is more by accident than anything else. What would be the right
 way?

There's no right way at the moment: I forgot to implement this.

Anyway, since this feature was LaTeX only, what do you think about the
following syntax (which doesn't work yet):

  #+attr_latex: :options [Newton]
  #+begin_theorem
  Blah.
  #+end_theorem

It is heavier but it seems more consistent to me.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

[O] LaTeX export: Theorem with an author

2013-02-07 Thread Vincent Beffara 
Hi, 

How to generate latex code for a theorem with an author, like this:

\begin{theorem}[Newton]
Blah.
\end{theorem}

With the old exporter, you could do this:

#+BEGIN_theorem Newton
Blah.
#+END_theorem

(possibly with brackets, not sure) but now the rest of the #+BEGIN_ line is 
ignored ... This works:

#+BEGIN_theorem
[Newton]
Blah.
#+END_theorem

but it is more by accident than anything else. What would be the right way?

Thanks,

/v 

-- 
Vincent Beffara