Re: [O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
Nicolas Goaziou mail at nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Both `M-S-up' and `M-S-down' work line wise and ignore any structure around point. OTOH, `M-up' and `M-down' should do what you want. BTW the name of the menu item is misleading. C-h C-k M-S-up: ~~ It is bound to M-S-up, menu-bar Org Edit Structure Move Subtree Up, menu-bar Tbl Row Delete Row. ~~ This is why I thought that M-S-up/down would work on entry + contents -- I looked in the Emacs menu and saw Move Subtree Up, and I didn't think to check the docstring (which contradicts the name in the menu by saying, correctly, Drag the line at point up). hjh
Re: [O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
James Harkins jamshar...@qq.com writes: BTW the name of the menu item is misleading. C-h C-k M-S-up: ~~ It is bound to M-S-up, menu-bar Org Edit Structure Move Subtree Up, menu-bar Tbl Row Delete Row. ~~ This is why I thought that M-S-up/down would work on entry + contents -- I looked in the Emacs menu and saw Move Subtree Up, and I didn't think to check the docstring (which contradicts the name in the menu by saying, correctly, Drag the line at point up). What improvement are you suggesting then? Regards,
Re: [O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
At Mon, 03 Nov 2014 13:48:56 +0100, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: James Harkins jamshar...@qq.com writes: BTW the name of the menu item is misleading. C-h C-k M-S-up: ~~ It is bound to M-S-up, menu-bar Org Edit Structure Move Subtree Up, menu-bar Tbl Row Delete Row. What improvement are you suggesting then? Upon further reflection, I think the best would be to bind org-metaup/down to the move subtree menu items, rather than org-shiftmetaup. I'm guessing that this is the more common use case (because moving a whole subtree doesn't destroy the structure of that subtree, while moving a line does), so I think it would make more sense to put the more common case in the menu. hjh
Re: [O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
James Harkins jamshar...@qq.com writes: Upon further reflection, I think the best would be to bind org-metaup/down to the move subtree menu items, rather than org-shiftmetaup. I'm guessing that this is the more common use case (because moving a whole subtree doesn't destroy the structure of that subtree, while moving a line does), so I think it would make more sense to put the more common case in the menu. Indeed, that's a bug in the menu. Thank you for reporting it. Regards,
[O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
In plain lists, if there is indented text underneath a list item, is it considered to belong to the list item, or is it just freestanding text? I'm asking because M-S-up/down doesn't take indented text into account. These commands only move the line marked with a list-item indicator (- etc.). * Heading - List item 1 - List item 2 Indented text - List item 3 Position the point on List item 2 and hit M-S-down. You'll get this, which seems wrong to me: * Heading - List item 1 Indented text - List item 2 - List item 3 I expected: * Heading - List item 1 - List item 3 - List item 2 Indented text My opinion is that this is a bug, but it's also possible that I don't fully understand how org interprets plain lists. It does seem that org has a concept of indented text belonging to the list item, because you can use TAB to collapse a list item containing indented text, but you can't use it on a list item followed by non-indented text. * Heading - List item 1: TAB can fold this item Indented text - List item 2: TAB displays a message in the minibuffer EMPTY ENTRY Non-indented text - List item 3 I also see the same bizarre behavior of M-S-up/down if a list item has a sub-list under it. My org is up-to-date as of 10/15/2014. hjh
Re: [O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
Hello, James Harkins jamshar...@qq.com writes: In plain lists, if there is indented text underneath a list item, is it considered to belong to the list item, or is it just freestanding text? The former. I'm asking because M-S-up/down doesn't take indented text into account. These commands only move the line marked with a list-item indicator (- etc.). * Heading - List item 1 - List item 2 Indented text - List item 3 Position the point on List item 2 and hit M-S-down. You'll get this, which seems wrong to me: * Heading - List item 1 Indented text - List item 2 - List item 3 I expected: * Heading - List item 1 - List item 3 - List item 2 Indented text My opinion is that this is a bug Actually, it isn't. This is a feature. Both `M-S-up' and `M-S-down' work line wise and ignore any structure around point. OTOH, `M-up' and `M-down' should do what you want. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] M-S-up/down on plain lists containing text (or multilevel lists)
On November 2, 2014 4:25:53 PM Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote: Actually, it isn't. This is a feature. Both `M-S-up' and `M-S-down' work line wise and ignore any structure around point. OTOH, `M-up' and `M-down' should do what you want. Ah, OK... It would be a bug if there were no function to move a list item with its contents. Since there is such a function, just on a different key binding, no bug. Thanks. hjh Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com
