Re: [O] Org Table Export to Markdown Table Question

2014-01-10 Thread Aric
Alan L Tyree alantyree at gmail.com writes:

 Org is so nice to use for authoring that I can't give it away. I have a 
 book manuscript due in May and currently all my citations are using the 
 [[cite: key]] format with ox-bibtex. It is far from satisfactory and I'm 
 sure that May will see me tearing my hair out (what little is left).

Yes, I hear you. I am trying to avoid this by using the [@nameYear] style for 
markdown hoping that a final export to markdown for bibliography will not go 
horribly wrong. But that is probably not a fair assumption. 

Aric




Re: [O] Org Table Export to Markdown Table Question

2014-01-10 Thread Alan L Tyree

On 11/01/14 09:26, Aric wrote:

Alan L Tyree alantyree at gmail.com writes:


Org is so nice to use for authoring that I can't give it away. I have a
book manuscript due in May and currently all my citations are using the
[[cite: key]] format with ox-bibtex. It is far from satisfactory and I'm
sure that May will see me tearing my hair out (what little is left).

Yes, I hear you. I am trying to avoid this by using the [@nameYear] style for
markdown hoping that a final export to markdown for bibliography will not go
horribly wrong. But that is probably not a fair assumption.

Aric



Another approach: In the past I have used tex4ht to process a LaTeX 
book. At least on Linux, there is a script 'oolatex' that does a pretty 
good job. I'm using Debian and, for some reason, oolatex is not in the 
execution path but is located at /usr/share/tex4ht/oolatex. I had a 
LaTeX book length manuscript (about 700 pages) that converted reasonably 
well, but I haven't tried the Org - LaTeX - LibreOffice procedure yet.


Alan

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Re: [O] Org Table Export to Markdown Table Question

2014-01-09 Thread Rick Frankel

On 2014-01-08 15:41, Aric wrote:
I am trying to use org-mode now with R code in it to write manuscripts. 
That

does unfortunately mean that it must be eventually exported to some doc
format. I have been able to export to markdown and everything looks 
good in
markdown (even previewed on github) with the exception of latex code 
which is
not converted. However, using pandoc to convert the markdown to docx, 
the

tables are not converted properly (all a single column).


I'm not sure why you are using markdown as an intermediate file
format. Org will export to latex, pdf (via latex) and openoffice odt
(which can be exported from open/libre office to doc/docx.).

Both the above exporters are much more mature that the markdown
exporter.

rick



Re: [O] Org Table Export to Markdown Table Question

2014-01-09 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

Rick Frankel r...@rickster.com writes:

 On 2014-01-08 15:41, Aric wrote:
 I am trying to use org-mode now with R code in it to write
 manuscripts. That
 does unfortunately mean that it must be eventually exported to some doc
 format. I have been able to export to markdown and everything looks
 good in
 markdown (even previewed on github) with the exception of latex code
 which is
 not converted. However, using pandoc to convert the markdown to
 docx, the
 tables are not converted properly (all a single column).

 I'm not sure why you are using markdown as an intermediate file
 format. Org will export to latex, pdf (via latex) and openoffice odt
 (which can be exported from open/libre office to doc/docx.).

 Both the above exporters are much more mature that the markdown
 exporter.

BTW, Markdown export back-end turns tables into raw HTML code, which,
AFAIK, is allowed in Markdown.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] Org Table Export to Markdown Table Question

2014-01-09 Thread Aric Gregson
--On January 9, 2014 11:58:37 AM -0500 Rick Frankel r...@rickster.com 
wrote:



I'm not sure why you are using markdown as an intermediate file
format. Org will export to latex, pdf (via latex) and openoffice odt
(which can be exported from open/libre office to doc/docx.).


I had originally tried because of problems with the odt exporter, which 
appears to have been fixed with the recent release, as noted previously. 
Markdown is still extremely useful for formatting references/bibliographies 
with bibtex and csl. Latex is not as useful because it is nearly impossible 
to share latex files with those using Word and most journals in my field do 
not accept latex files.


Thanks, Aric



Re: [O] Org Table Export to Markdown Table Question

2014-01-09 Thread Alan L Tyree

On 10/01/14 07:30, Aric Gregson wrote:
--On January 9, 2014 11:58:37 AM -0500 Rick Frankel 
r...@rickster.com wrote:



I'm not sure why you are using markdown as an intermediate file
format. Org will export to latex, pdf (via latex) and openoffice odt
(which can be exported from open/libre office to doc/docx.).


I had originally tried because of problems with the odt exporter, 
which appears to have been fixed with the recent release, as noted 
previously. Markdown is still extremely useful for formatting 
references/bibliographies with bibtex and csl. Latex is not as useful 
because it is nearly impossible to share latex files with those using 
Word and most journals in my field do not accept latex files.
I am in the same fix -- writing in Org but needing to submit most things 
in Word. Damned annoying.


It really would be nice to see Org get the references/bibliography 
problem fixed up properly. The Pandoc version of Markdown does it well. 
As you note, bibtex and csl is a killer combination.


Org is so nice to use for authoring that I can't give it away. I have a 
book manuscript due in May and currently all my citations are using the 
[[cite: key]] format with ox-bibtex. It is far from satisfactory and I'm 
sure that May will see me tearing my hair out (what little is left).


Cheers,
Alan



Thanks, Aric





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Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan
Tel:  04 2748 6206  sip:typh...@iptel.org




[O] Org Table Export to Markdown Table Question

2014-01-08 Thread Aric
Hello,

I am trying to use org-mode now with R code in it to write manuscripts. That 
does unfortunately mean that it must be eventually exported to some doc 
format. I have been able to export to markdown and everything looks good in 
markdown (even previewed on github) with the exception of latex code which is 
not converted. However, using pandoc to convert the markdown to docx, the 
tables are not converted properly (all a single column). 

I realize this is a pandoc problem, but since markdown supports tables, is it 
possible to have Org export the tables into markdown as markdown tables 
rather than html tables? Also, is there a way for latex code to be converted 
prior to markdown export?

Thanks, Aric




Re: [O] Org Table Export to Markdown Table Question

2014-01-08 Thread vilibald
 I realize this is a pandoc problem, but since markdown supports tables, is
 it
 possible to have Org export the tables into markdown as markdown tables
 rather than html tables? Also, is there a way for latex code to be
 converted
 prior to markdown export?

 Thanks, Aric

Hi Aric,
AFAIK md export doesn't support tables as the original Markdown is not
mentioning them, so unfortunately org-mode will not help you at the moment
unless you are up for bit of elisp programming to get these Markdown
extensions working.
As for the latex code, I'm not sure what you'd like to achieve, you want
the latex code to be converted to what?

Have a nice day
Vilibald